doors are always open for highly experienced who works for peanuts

My opinion. There isn't a shortage of techs, there is a shortage of experienced mechanics, willing to work for less than factory job pay.

There is no such thing as a shortage of highly skilled mechanics, there is however an extremely dire shortage of highly skilled mechanics willing to work for low wages.

#1 reason companies put up an ad for hire is simple. It makes the company look as if it's growing therefore the economy is growing but in reality is stagnant.

Also, there's no reason to do a brake job on any car for the $15 the shops might pay. The people at church offer me triple that, so I work in their home garages.

As a technician who let the industry after 10+years i can assure you the techs are of no concern to the shops right now, you will not get you deserved pay. You will be replaced by someone with less experience, just like every other trade, and keeping a full house of techs on labor pay is immoral. Their concern is not service

I heard a story on Thursday at my local indy shop. I walked in and saw a tech working there that use to work at the local Volvo dealer. The story was, as a Master Tech he was getting killed with work. The new guys were playing the numbers game, picking and choosing what they would or would not work on. Well the dealer got screwed in the end, when this particular Master Tech left so did a number of their experience techs. They knew when he left, all the BS that was getting dumped on him, was now going to their problem. This dealers service department is presently filled with techs that have less than two or three years of experience. There's a saying MONEY TALKS BULL SH*T WALKS. BTW that former Volvo Master Tech is making more money at the Indy shop than he was making at the Volvo Dealer.

It's not just trucking it's all of automotive in general that is suffering at least on the wrenching side. 10 years, $50k in tools, and years of training and I'm considering hanging up my tools. Why the hell would I keep fighting for a small raise every few years when greens get hired at my rate or higher? I work at a dealership but it doesn't seem to matter what level company. Two of our managers bought half million dollar houses this year... but the single alignment machine at our very large shop no longer operates because it must be replaced at a "hefty" $30k.. management says they cant afford it right now so just jerry rig the alignment, uh no. Not a single tech makes over $60k but the $275k/year middle manager wants us to cut costs. Multistate dealership corporation... They know the answer and it's all just Orwellian Animal Farm.

Jobs also have job opening to keep workers on their toes and let them know they everyone is replaceable..

58 year old independent heavy equipment mechanic here. My business has gone from overwhelmingly busy to just about right. For all of the younger guys out there, I hope you will work as hard as you can to get out on your own! It is doable, but it takes a plan, and a lot of work.

In the nearly 15 years I worked in the industry as a dealer technician, I only got a raise ONCE. That was when I finally earned my ASE Master certification and with that, I made Lexus Master. It was a $5 raise per flag hour.... I only really ever got more money by working for a few years at a dealer and then finding another dealer and getting hired on for more than I was currently making. I had A LOT of pride working for Lexus, until I started to see Lexus changing its attitude toward technicians. The product was getting more complex, the repair manual starting only having basic diagnostic information. Tech support used to be incredible getting technicians out of sticky situations. In the last year I was in I swear I had more experience and product knowledge than the Lexus employed Tech rep. Im now currently a public sector fleet tech and I feel like I hit the jackpot. Bonus, I DONT have to work on garbage trucks lol.

There is a slow down for sure. But remember this is a slow down from record breaking years. We are about as busy as we were pre covid.

Thank you for sharing your insights. I’m a journeyman electrician who recently started working self-employed because of how bad employment prospects have become. This all differs from where you live (I’m up in Canada) and our politicians are killing us with taxes/debt/inflation. When nobody can afford anything, the economy stops going and everything goes downhill.

Employment policies at Penske or Ryder are radically different from your local truck dealership. If you suspect 'corporate policy', you are on the right track.

As a very skilled dig tech with my 50k of tools, I refuse any job that pays less than 100k. The pay is way too low for the amount of skills and knowledge we need and im talking about real mechanics not just parts changers or lube techs i live in utah

I just found your channel. I'm a woman looking to get into the custodian part of a diesel shop. Love your content!😊

Two words, and remember them every time you feel bad for either quitting a crap job or getting a better offer somewhere else: *Corporate greed*

No shortage around here, shops booked 2 weeks out, prices outrageous. Nobody can afford new cars, trying to keep the old ones on the road as long as possible.

I’m a vw/audi specialist at a major auto auction. They’re not hiring high level techs. They want a “level two” they can pay 20/hr. They have two shops. Twelve techs in the other and 4 in mine. We have some work but retail and fleet is slow. The job is easy , good pay with a pension(grandfathered),so they’re gonna have to fire my ass lol .

Licensed tech here, i left the trade and went to electrical industrial trade, im 1st term apprentice and make more than licensed mechanic. Auto world is a joke. I got sick of the low pay and the ridiculous warranty flat rate and the constant devalue of our time, so having to make videos to the customer,writing up stories for warranty/customer, non of this time is accounted for, test drive.

I worked at a place that left their job listings up all the time. There was a time where they had us working 4 days a week with 2 weeks lay off but still had job listings up. They don’t care about you, it’s to their advantage to keep it up, even when they aren’t hiring

You only get a job to gain knowledge not for money, the money is a side benefit. Once you have knowledge you advertise what you can fix , there's a never ending supply of people that need things fixed.

I think they hiring kids that think they wanna turn wrenches for a living and figure out after a while they really werent cut out for it. Older more experienced mechanics tired of working for cheap. And corporate dont want to pay an experienced tech what there worth. So i think they just keep the now hiring signs up because new techs come and go

As management I can guarantee we took a bonus

There's one big issue that no one ever wants to talk about. It all depends on where you are working and what type of job you have. Like it or not, the only way to get the training you need to work on new systems, is through factory training. And that means you need to work for a dealer. The type of work I do every day is completely different than what you will see working for an aftermarket shop. You'll never get the education you need by going to trade school or passing ASE tests. All that stuff is practically worthless. The work is much more technical. If you're not comfortable with a DVOM as your most used tool, you probably don't want to make a career out of working on cars. Things like tires, brakes, services, etc..., is considered lube tech level work. I get cars toed in on an almost daily basis from other shops that just don't know how to work on them. Aside from not having customer pay work, you also get internal and factory warranty/recall work, as well. This practically guarantees that you won't run out of work. There's always something to do. I know factory time doesn't pays less than customer work, but there are some advantages. You get extremely fast when you do the same jobs over and over. For example, some of the easier dashboards to remove an install pays 2.7 hours. Most people would think that's insane. However, I look for those jobs. Why? Because in most cases, I can do it in under an hour. You also don't have to wait for a service writer to sell a job. Factory repairs don't have to be sold. Your hourly rate is usually much higher. If you know what you are doing, you can make a lot of money.

I got a call for a diesel tech.That wanted me to change a tire for a job interview.. I can't help but think it was a left tire if you know what I mean..

Pay more and there will be more workers.

I'm a tech at an independent shop in Michigan, biggest thing I'll work on is say an e350 box truck. Its me one other tech and the boss Ive been there for 5 years and theres only been one week that it was slow. A lot of the independent shops in my area are really busy but I hear the dealers are slow.

hell I been doing the flea-market thing, pretty much my booth is a $1 store and I can't move shit. where from during the previous admin in dc I was having to load the booth up several times a week. When a damn dollar store can't really make it, things are real real real bad.

The big question : why do Americans say "diessel" and Canadians say "diezel" ?

It definitely ain't no layoffs I have been a mechanic on both sides for 20 years

Usually these are pretend tactics to keep up the moral of the employees who are being overworked. Con games created by efficiency/business consultants and profit experts.

They’re backed up three weeks because parts are all backordered

I'm a welder and NDT tech. I see job postings at work, but they never hire anyone. They actually been firing guys.

Switched from Auto tech to the commerial and residential HVAC making 3 times the money salary no flat rate BS

like others have said and has been the same story for many years,LACK OF PAY!I like my job and where i work(hourly),been here for 27yrs and can do what i want like watching/listening to this video,lol.I only got a major bump in pay when i threatened to leave about 3yrs ago.Even with that bump im still way underpaid for a diesel Ford certified tech.My wife who does xrays at the same place for about 12yrs now makes $20k more than i do a yr.....hmmmm..what would i choose?lol..she doesnt love here job but doesnt have tools to buy,and watches movies alot of days!she covers our families insurance because mine is crap also..Its not hard to figure out.

When companies complain about shortages of workers, it is code for shortage of migrants willing to work for less than market rates. They are hoping that all the migration raises the number of mechanics enough that rate in general go down. It is not in their interest to hire less mechanics for more money as that raises rate across the industry.

It’s kinda a new thing where companies of all industries are now keeping posts open on these sites or their own websites even if they are not hiring. It’s how they can stockpile applicants to make it easier to cut their most expensive guys for the new cheaper guys. So basically if you see a posting it doesn’t mean there’s a job behind it.

I'm an automotive technician outside of dallas and we've been swamped

Duo Dom too experienced to get a job now. Every dealership I've gone to basically wants to. They wanna a do boy 19-year-old kid that runs around and does things you know you know, doesn't stop moving and no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there is no f****** way. I'm gonna return to the workforce. Ah, without getting my pay and when there is no work. I'm going to sit my fat a** down and wait for the next car to come in. Aint no picking up a broomstick and acting like I'm busy type s*** Fuck that you can keep that in the nineties

Job market is slow in general unless you want to flip burgers. A lot of those “job postings” are ghost jobs.

It's all a lie. No one wants to work they say, yet no one wants to hire either. It can't be both.

The shop im in just hired 3 new techs we are at 10 now and we stand around half the day with nothing to do. Even with 7 techs you were lucky to get 30 hours a week. Its time to find someting else.

Companies have zombie listings just to gauge demand. Also if your flat rate what is there to dissuade a business from hiring everyone.

I work for a municipal as a diesel mechanic on specifically fire trucks and we are busy only because they BREAK ALOT LOL but I have seen it’s slow in other places. I would say find some that is a niche like fire trucks or marine diesel work always needs people.

I see a slow down and believe it's because of the upcoming election. I also think companies keep those job postings up to hopefully catch good techs/mechanics for when it gets busy again. They're just fishing for talent.

Im am an Industrial Mechanic. Its the same shit. We've lost half our maintenance crews. We have way more work to do for the same pay. And are getting treated worse. Ive came to the conclusion. That these companies will go out of business before they pay more.

I feel you from my shop is the same but they want to get rid of the old timer so they could bring in people at a cheaper pay

The more lottery tickets you buy, the better chance of hitting your numbers. Maybe once or twice every couple years they’ll find someone who’s actually good and willing to work for peanuts. Over a long span of time it works for them

get it in writing. why is it $150+/labor hour? if dealer labor would come back down to a reasonable level, ppl might bring the car to the dealership for service. Yes, there is "extra" money in parts, but daggum, when labor is more than parts, that's bad.

$20hr at In n Out Burger..

Chanel suggestion: If you want to take this question next level, then apply to some of these jobs and see how far in to the process these openings turn out to be bogus. Would make a great video.

I think they are going to extend the hours and the not so good guys will go to nights, or be replaced.

Paying in popsicle sticks

Florida, lot of work for techs (auto) check ads for any city ! We're not even open to.the publc, 3-4 weeks behind (major repairs)

The vehicles people are buying are junk. And part quality is down. How do you fix stupid?

I don’t do this type of work but we have similar things going on in tech. You have record profits and record layoffs. Some companies have job listing and are interviewing but don’t hire people.

Unemployment insurance takes a hit if the company fires or if they fire and don't rehire.

There is a shortage for quality techs,the dime a dozen mentality is still there unfortunately.

NOT Mechanic, but engineering, ever since july 2022, I have just sat, a couple projects, otherwise me and the other engineer are just watching youtube and fucking off, I got a second job just because I was bored. as a mechanic. I don't think we will be laid off as we support manufacturing and both of us are required to be around. but I can forsee a labor layoff in the shop. and on admin. its really strange. I have never had a work/ shortage like that except for 2 months in 2020 when covid first hit.

I'm a 47 year old mechanic, only slightly disabled, a white male, conservative and Christian and pro-Trump, I have diesel experience and UAW training, I've passed ASE pre-certification tests for automotive things I never even studied, but there's absolutely no work for a middle age man like me. I'm on my wife's account because I keep getting banned. If there was any demand, I'd be getting job offers. I'm not. I'm working at the Subway my wife manages, so I know the local economy is doing really well. We're averaging over 300 sandwiches per day, that's as high as it's ever been. Last summer we had a one day spike to 368 sandwiches, which is the all time record for that particular Subway location.

Im no master but i do have some exspireance on cat,cummins and mac but the best day of my life was when i quit...

In the same way your always looking for a better job , companies are always looking for better employees (or ones they can better control). This is the reason the help wanted signs remain up.

I think anyone who CAN do most repairs on their own. Are definitely trying to save the money. I know I am. I suspect shops are trying to hire at a lower rate and weed out all the guys maxed out on their pay scale. Its not new. I worry that skilled tradesman can no longer afford to hire each other. I'm a carpenter and cant afford a mechanic. Mechanics have a hard time hiring tradesman. It's not good man.

Pennsylvania Diesel shops are slow. Don't think it has anything to do with election year. The big companies always run employment ads. Constantly. Most don't pay enough to keep employees. The big trucking companies are watching every penny requesting estimates for repairs over 500.00. A Technicians need to stand up and request more pay! The average is 25 hour. Should be 35+.

The economy is definitely slowing down. Look at all the food places having major issues, red lobster, tgif, chilis, etc……claiming bankruptcy, closing down locations etc…..I am seeing lots of servers complain about not being able to find work on the local subreddit. The economy is going into recession right as we speak. I am also seeing lots of posts about households going down to one car. I am definitely noticing more people at bus stops as I drive around town. Everyone is retracting trying to save money so they can survive all this inflation.

I've applied to one dealer 3 months in a row. I apply, a month goes by and they readvertised again the next month. They're still asking for mechanics and have been monthly for the last 6 months but they won't hire. I had one offer at another shop to work for minimum wage, legal but $10 below per hour that other workshops are paying. So at this stage I'm ready to work at McDonald's.

I work at a Ford dealership and normally we are busy in our area. However i kept track of last year and all the way through this year and work has definitely slowed down. With all the laynoffs happening people are holding off on repairs. People forget just because we are mechanics we sre dependant on the white collar peeps to come to us. Im constantly looking for a fleet shop for something stable, i can feel layoffs would hit our shop soon. Or hours reduced.

I hear a lot of complaints from people about shops are 3 weeks booked up and nobody wants to work, but these people will not spend money, or complain about the price of everything. Toxic customer syndrome

Sounds about like the welding industry

I work for one of the biggest medical device companies in the United States and the greed I hear about in dealerships and other shops is worse than I seem to deal with, and we are massively corporate. I wouldn't even consider being an auto or disel tech, 2 years of school and you can be a manufacturing tech here, starting 4 weeks vacation, tuition reimbursement, 401k, all awesome benefits and not back breaking work.

Flat rate system. They don’t pay to have techs so why wouldn’t they want to stay stacked?

I've been watching the auto repair shops in my town almost all are completely dead, No cars on the lot or in the bays . most bays are empty .

Labor is a COMMODITY . It is harder to find good paying Union Jobs with great benefits ! Companies watch employee age groups and turnover rates .

You ASSUME they are hiring..... sometimes those ads are just bullshit.

How is there a slow in demand if they’re still the same amount of people and cars out there? it’s not like cars just stopped breaking

Overpriced parts and expensive labor

I’m not in the diesel industry I’m in manufacturing we been slow for a while now seems other people I talk to in other industries are too. I think it being election season is a big reason for it

The big union employers on the east coast are hiring mechanics through a 3rd party provider. Verizon is one of many. They don't want company employees anymore. Power companies and others are doing the same. You have to follow all fleet directives with half the pay and none of the benefits. Constantly being scrutinized and monitored by metrics. The job cover story sounds great! But on board, you'll be sorry. 😞

I have shops calling my personal cell begging me to come work. Heavy equipment 10 years experience.

Get into heavy equipment it’s hourly and usually it’s pretty steady

its no different in the trades. There isn't really a shortage. There is a shortage of workers who will work for minimum wage. Labor is just an expense to corporate.

This type of work breaks your body down, you gotta get you're money, put it in crypto and get out and do something less strenuous. It's our only shot at retirement.

No man who works with their hands is worth more than $10 an hour. The reason why a good Corporate lawyer or a Washington lobbyist makes 500k to a million dollars a year is because they offer a lot of value to society while working class people offer little if anything. This is why we need open boarders. So we can replace these lazy and selfish people with others who will work for what they are worth, not what they want. It's not the wealthys fault that little people don't have a high i.q to become a lawyer.

So much for degrees…

Work for yourself, stuff working for other idiots.

I heard its required to advertise that your hiring.

My guess is that they can’t keep a truck or mechanic there at all either due to it being slow or bad management it’s cheaper for them to replace mechanics with techs… American capitalism at its finest par some kid 10$ an hour to weld even though he has no clue or training for the job… they don’t want to pay one good mechanic when they can pay minimum for minimum performing work. Us skilled workers start leaving for better jobs or start working for ourselves because I have had to fix dealer repeat jobs so even the customers are leaving the corporations

If you're good enough go independent. If you're honest and people like you ask for online reviews telling their experiences. The two mechanics I know are always busy, more so in the rain season.

I always am hiring. If you don’t you may miss a great person someone lost. You don’t have to hire part changers to be hiring. You can get rid of the people that complain opposed to do better or leave. No excuse. Leave. Or just stop complaining that isn’t getting you more money you just spend more time thinking about the job you complain you don’t make enough

I think there's a big recession on the cusp.

I left the auto repair field for alot more , than simply shitty pay . The arrogance , favoritism and f##kjobs were unsurpassed. Employers that are narsasist , queer and irish dont do well at correct work atmosphere

Mechanics solution to economic uncertainty: pay mechanics more lol

They are laying people off because they do not have the skills needed, 'cause everyone just wants fresh young techs that know everything about everything, and dont want good pay, and thats just not gonna work out! I got a few more months before they shut the shop i work at down because they cant find any good techs, and then i'm off to the fish farming industry, wich is less stress, more pay, and more time off.

You have to $%&# people who work for wages that are too low. History already answered this question.

Does your pension have a 8% return? 💩🇺🇲

mechanic or technicians?

Let's go Brandon!

Dont tell the job you want you went to 💩UTI💩

MARKET???The American Truck Dealers Association is cooking the fuck out your market and you don't even have one anymore.