Ok nice

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can not wait for video about update

More spy bugs, YES!

can't wait :^)

Yeah, clear a lot of love was put into that upgrade station. Also think two of them were supposed to be upgrade stations. Specifically the statue considering the state it is in and the text on the glass, seems like you would see it in the more sandy maps

Portal 2, huh? Good obersvation! Such a robotic moves, it's clearly inspirated by Portal 2, and I know why - MvM has been developed since May 2011, so this model must be made in 2011, the same year Portal 2 was released. TF2 devs were intended to make analogue of faith plate from Portal 2 btw (as teleporter variant, but with shorter recharge rate), there's a whole chunk of code that has been simply copypasted from P2.

Well not entirely. They did patch out an infinite money exploit recently.

Im wondering if mvm was rushed to put hands on another Valve project. Looks like they had a pretty big vision for a PvE gamemode.

The claw machine looks like it would give some kind of random power up when used

"Get the f*ck out of my upgrade station I'm playing Saxton Beat'em up!"

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They don't go on forever as much anymore, since there's a timer now

so, like 5CP then as well

it could just be done like the overwatch version

@@JouvaMoufette Why would there even not be a timer in the first place

Could be, both the Overdose and the Meet The Medic! Pack were added on the same day, June 23, 2011

I think your right! I just noticed that the cut medic looks alot like the overdose!

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So it's an early version of the overdoes? Neat!

If I remember correctly, it was actually lifted from a community made weapon concept that had been posted

I absolutely fucking miss asteroid

Hi rd_asteroid fan. We are a dying species. I loved the game mode and played it all the time when it was easily accessible.

For real robot destruction was just better ctf and asteroid was better 2fort if you wanted to play the gamemode more seriously.

I remember back when they rolled out cactuscanyon and asteroid for playtesting. When they ended up completely dropping both maps not long after, with hindsight we can see it did not bode well for the future of TF2

​@@robert9016 which sucks because Asteroid is one of my favorite maps in the game lol

They are unfinished because they're fundamentally flawed...

Especially nightfall. Double cross is one of my favorite maps because of its nighttime aesthetic. I’d really like to see more maps like it.

doubtful whether valve wants to risk encouraging further leaks in that way. especially since creators can make money when their content gets included

Unlikely, most community mapping communities have banned anything based on leaked content and valve would definitely not want to add something that uses it.

@@staryoshi06 based on raw leaked content (story, materials, etc.), not just gamemode or layout idea. If someone tries to make tug of war or some maps they didnt make form zero, valve wouldnt care

Raid Mode (also once mentioned in code as Squad Co-op mode) would supposed to be PvE variation of CTF game mode, where human-controlled players would be attackers (or "invaders", as comments in game code suggest) in BLU team, and AI-contrrolled players - defenders in RED team. This mode had been developing from mid-2009 to early 2011 and in the end was abandoned in favor to Creep Mode and subsequently Mann vs Machine game modes. In Raid Mode human-controlled team consisted of 5 players presumably would supposed to attack and capture control points protected by various groups of AI-controlled players. The presumable goal for players is to capture all points and don't let bots recapture them back. Bots spawn faster if RED raiders are currently capturing point.

There are actually maps for the raid mode in the leak, one of them even involves an air strike which I assume would of randomly be fired at specific points of the map

Seek therapy, f*rry degenerate.

From the leftovers we have, It derives a lot from Left 4 Dead's zombie spawning / behavior code. I imagine the gameplay would've been similiar to that

The best solution would have been to populate the automat with static models, have it animate when a player walks up, and then present said player with the upgrade UI. Not much different than the alternate resupply cabinets in DeGroot Keep, or that on in the ambulance in (I think) Snakewater.

Yeah. Valve is incredibly well known for scrapping entire sections and mechanics for a game if they're just plain bad or not up to snuff. There's entire parts of portal 2 that were just completely scrapped.

@@curlybrace4984 tbf that is less of a Valve thing and more of a game development thing in general, Cutting Room Floor is a good website to see just how much gets cut or left unused out of games sometimes seemingly because it just didn't work out as the devs probably expected

@@blurmarsh2265 No, I mean valve especially is willing to cut sooooo much stuff if it's not absolutely perfect in their eyes. Almost no other dev will do that.

@@curlybrace4984 Devs do that all the time, its not a valve exclusive thing. Im not sure how true that is in the current AAA Development cycles but cutting content is extremely common, sometimes games get completely scrapped or put back into the concept phase. Sometimes its because devs find out the game as a concept isnt fun, sometimes it can be for completely different reasons (ie Splatoon getting remade from the ground up due to leaks)

Friggen helicarrier for an ass

​@@lavetissene339 Oh god, don't say that, you know what people do with TF2 Sentry fanart

I hope it causes someone to make a custom engineer weapon that upgrades to that. Like a reverse of the one that gives the mini sentry

@@legojay14 way longer deploy time and less range but more firepower, seems good on paper but could make the turtle engie style even worse unless you can push the sentry or smth

Looks very Portal inspired. Maybe Engi had a internship at Aperture? Lol!

things were different back then huh

It's 2006, come on.

@@SU76M Most of the achievements were added after the game came out, those Spy ones are probably from 2008 at the earliest

I wonder what Wikipedia article they were looking at, and more importantly why. At a glance it seems to involve something about Santa Fe, CA. But why are we looking at that while designing spy assets? DOES SPY OWN A HOUSE IN SANTA FE?

@@The_Mister_E if it was an article for santa fe, they probably wanted reference images

Raid sounds like an awesome sequel for mvm attacking and breaking the robot's defences could make for a cool gamemode with the bossfights and more variety of enemies

It's Valve, the moment this got leaked Gabe Newell erased it from the whole company's memory

@@davisdf3064 I bet TF2 is so scarcely mentioned inside Valve that everyone hired after Jungle Inferno has never heard of TF2

TF2 is old so i doubt it will get an update like that

Yeah, keep dreaming...

Unicorn are real

leave youtube

@@BabzaiWWP no

This is something I would genuinely want to see in some potato tf custom server as a really expensive upgrade for your sentry

the engineer after having enough of the spies' bs

I promise you any long-service game has just as much unused stuff sitting in a depot somewhere.

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Demoman with a cylinder for a head is truly an inspired choice.

​@@caramelldansen2204 The lad fuckin did it, he turned himself into a soup can, funniest shit I've ever seen

Makes me want a mvm attack mode

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most logical demo knight main (also hi solar light!)

OMG yes! I would want this in the game sooo bad!!!

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the one and only dev

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Unlikely, Valve has multiple devs the one dev is a lie

Lol

@@Chad_Milk Valve has 300 employees but only one works for TF2.

The MvM props were likely scrapped because they were too cumbersome to use compared to the in-game UI we have now. They were likely also scrapped because they were too subtle, causing players to miss them.

@@muddashucka9743 fair enough but you could also just have them be decorations. They look really cool, and the animations are all completely done for some of them

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Wait dishonored did that?

@@busterbackster1 No, I was saying it'd be really neat if Dishonored did that.

Tf2 push would actually be fun

@@indianaortiz6075 It'd have the same problem as the OW2 variant though: say the enemy team pushes the cart almost to your point. You manage to hold them off, and start pushing back. Now even if you are playing better than them, unless you can push it all the way back to the mid-point and then all the way further than where they pushed it, you will still loose the match. Essentially, you have to push it twice as far as the enemy did, just to not loose. In practice, once you get halfway into a round, whoever holds the cart has most likely won, but you still have to keep playing the whole rest of the round. Arguably Payload race is a *better* version of this mechanic, and still nobody plays PLR because regular payload is more fun.

@@drtauntsalot 5CP in a nutshell.

​@@drtauntsalot What if it's easier to push to the center Like maybe a ramp or a valley

overwatch bad tf2 good where are my le epic updoots

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It looked like it was just being used as a reference

I'll be honest it looks so much more fun than current double cross! I hope someday some real sneaky bugger makes it into a damn good community map.

OW already has that, and it sucks. So it’s a prob a good thing TF2 doesn’t have that

It's existed in community maps for a long time. The first one (pl_waste) was made in 2009.

@@thebushbros6626 Yeah, but the thing is; Overwatch sucks, and TF2 doesn't. Payload Race, as much of a meme as it is, shows that tug-of-war is viable. The only thing I know that'd be a 'problem' is that the game would be at a consistent deadlock like 2Fort since everything converges at the middle/where the cart is, and because it goes further into enemy territory; response times become faster against pushing the cart into their base. All in all, still want to give it a shot.

Precisely. I find it funny that people are finally realizing that what I had speculated about long before the repo leak happened was true. I had speculated that Valve wanted to use YM's Overdose from his Polycount contest submission back in 2010. Valve used the Schwaben-Charger medigun from YM's set in the TF2 Goes F2P trailer which is what led me to speculate that the current Overdose we have now is the 2nd iteration of the item. And this leak proved me right.

I always thought that shutter door below the first robot drop-down in Mannhattan looked suspiciously big enough to fit a Tank through...

The worst part is, whenever the enemy team gets foward spawn, time is added. It is a potentially infinite length push map.