Same, I was kind of surprised that they just told a king, who helps them out

yeah the og story is actually a useful fable

Huh. In the version I grew up with, they meet the fox, who almost tricks them and eats them, but then the king who happened to be nearby has his dogs chase him off, and then he gives Chicken Little an umbrella so acorns won't hit her head when she walks through the forest anymore.

@@Wwhdduendjdhhfmwosdn love how much that happens in real life

@@ohno6325 lol you mean never 😭

They looked at the Steford Wives and didn't see the horror in that or believed their own lies if "It's just for kids, it won't matter"

Even worse: Film even suggest the choice to turn her back to her normal self, but she has become the girl of someone that's desirable to society, therefore, her worth as a girly girl is more important than her role as a model citizen. Movie's very fucked up

mind altering magic is DEEP in our history. No wonder half my cable channels have anti-Turkey and anti-Danish ads!?

Not sure if this qualifies as lobotomy level (lobotomy results in permanent loss of all autonomy, agency and decision capabilities.). But yeah. Basically she is brain damaged.

Imagine watching this whole video and actually becoming emotionally invested.

Yeah no even as a kid this bothered me despite disliking her...its weird

yeah this unsettled me when I saw it too

Well that's what happens in real life. Have you ever seen a girl obsessed with a guy. It's like their brain is overwritten. That's why they blame men for what they do

I mean, I guess brainwashing her is too much, but does anyone even like Foxy? She's been nothing but an jerkass through two thirds of the movie

@@jasongibbs3713 Yeah this is just slightly different from a teen girl getting a silly crush in junior high. Like just a little bit.

Bro… it’s literally for children! A child is getting nothing but it’s fun from this entertainment. Stop treating kids like adults, theirs not observing information from cartoons as adults do and they do not make false or biased political thesis on cartoons.

@@Just_shush_now For most children, the entertainment that they are presented with is quite literally one of the only sources of information they have to formulate a perception about the world. Everything from your sense of ethics and morals, biases and assumptions, even perceived universal truths were influenced at a young age by the media you consumed. The minds of children are information sponges. Just because *you* think they’re too stupid to comprehend what their seeing doesn’t mean that aligns with reality. *You are not immune to propoganda.*

@@raggedymuffinz sure but that propaganda must be discernible by kids not even this youtubers could consistently paint his narrative. It’s also strange how this guy is trying to pain not being a loser as a bade thing.

@@Just_shush_now okay so your argument is that kids wont pick up what they see on tv you're just obviously wrong lmao

@@schnoz2372 I guess I got lucky, the chicken didn’t make me a neoliberal.

Also the fact that people preferred her that way carries pretty sexist implications since she was a tomboyish/sporty girl, but I’m probably overthinking it

I think it was because she was obnoxious and became nice after the aliens fried her brain.

@@thatboyandhismusic88 I thought she was meant to be a bully

@@funlover163 yeah all these people saying she's a feminist icon probably forgot that she was just a female bully

@@thatboyandhismusic88 The thing is that she wasn't just brainwashed into being a nicer person, yeah she was privileged and part of the problem, but there was nothing wrong with her being maculine or being succesful on her own without the need of a man, just that she was an asshole, the fact that people start to like her when she was literally brainwashed against her will into a desirable partner by misogynistic standards to the point she was denied the possibility of coming back to her former self is really fucked up.

dude this comment blew my mind

This is interesting. I doubt the Chicken Little writers thought of all that, though.

asking the real questions

I think fish is ostracized more because he's mute, rather than just being odd

It's because Foxy has great physical aptitude, making her useful in that society, and Goosey punishes other outcasts and supports Foxy, which ultimately makes her useful too.

I guess I didn't notice she was feminized. I thought she was just turned into a manic pixie musical girl

@@OdaKa same

It also makes runt look really horrible since he was the one who decided to not change back her personality.

​@@OdaKa same but it's because English wasn't my first language and we don't have a word that directly translates to feminization 😂

It makes a lot of sense really. If in this context being lazy or a lack of thought in writing leads the writers to base large parts of their narratives on assumptions, systems and norms of reality. That often means theyre unconsciously reproducing and reinforcing those traits in their media. Its interesting to look at stuff from this lens and see what writers and film makers take for granted about reality. So things like there will always be some kind of authority and law, mirrored by random generic breakers of the law. Or if you wanna get real freaky, an evil race of foreigners. They take things like capitalist society and treat them as if its just the natural order of things and those rules will apply even in a fantasy context. Sorry for the massive rant, its just an immensely interesting and sometimes depressing topic. To think people either cant imagine a world without capitalism or are invested in it enough to not care about whatever shit you shove in your kids films because youre chasing profit, it all ends the same way.

i saw the cars one, too. very good topic

Let’s not even mention that one superhero high school movie that indirectly endorsed eugenics 💀

Art cant ve divorced from the material conditions it was created in. When someone doesn’t have an ideology they assume the one from the ruling class which shows up consciously and unconsciously in the art created. Your biases will show in your art which is how you can get a legitimate enough read.

i do belive it is not a coincidence that it aligns but just a logical thing. if it was made in society that valued murder, writers would have no trouble writing in gory murder. if society thinks women better girly to the point of brainwashing -- there is no trouble with that in plot. and so forth

I do not believe that it even works as a satire.

@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 yeah, if only it didn't sincerely believe its own messed up morals. Then it could've worked as satire.

@@AD-dg3zz I do not believe that it really believes that stuff. Nobody believes in the vision of perfection. Plenty of people believe in their obligation to believe in perfection, however.

I don't know the satire is unintentional, adult swim viewers be like wow this is a outrageous troll

No it’s owned by Disney

There’s a few deleted scene that make him look less shitty. Like a scene where he is cooking food and consoling Chicken Little.

Got me on the first half,

@@liviwaslost Honestly it would have just made me more angry at him. Because my father, who is just as emotionally and mentally absive uses food as a slap on bandaid And even uses it to punish and reward me per how he feels...

@@elvingearmasterirma7241lol

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 Jesus man...

Yeah that's why America no longer has a moral compass. Especially the females

@@jasongibbs3713 ........... yikes

omfg bro are you kidding me

@@shyguy85no

@Miles Doyle ratio

No accommodations? Is that what you experience?

@@OdaKa Yes. There's very token gestures here and there, but nothing remotely on the level that people with disabilities actually need; the things they actually need are inordinately expensive (look up how much a comfortable wheelchair costs, seriously), and society as a whole is structured around screwing them over and erasing them. Hell, look up the shit people have to go through to get Disability payments, and the way they're structured to keep the disabled poor by making independence from them too big of a financial risk. It's *bad*.

@@OdaKa In Britain I had to take my local council to court to 'prove' my right to an education. It took YEARS to start my education beyond a primary school level. The world is very much built to fuck over disabled people.

Because you are attached to the idea that most people are good. They aren't. Basic honesty is one of the rarest traits you could find in people. Loyalty? Ever hang around liberals? All about "tolerance" till you get in their circles, then you see them doing nothing but talk shit behind each other's backs all day. Kindness? Sure, if they can profit from it. Tell those same liberals that there might be hope for people with mental illness - that it might be possible, even good, to get better. Then you get all the "muh doubting muh lived experience!1!", because if they accept the idea of getting better, then the sick ones have to ask themselves why they haven't tried to get better, and the bystanders can't profit from your protected status by loudly proclaiming their support. The truth is most people are opportunistic rats. You probably are too. You're not kind, you're scared. "Disabled" how? You got bullied in school and now live in fear? What do you think hatred is for? A natural mechanism to move you forward in spite of negative emotions. Don't think yourself better than negativity. That kind of thinking is for children. Most people are shit, and they'll loudly declare how little of a fuck they give about you until you punish them. Then they get all offended. Of course. Anything to have power over you. You will never please anyone, because when people are pleased, they just want more. There's never an end to it. Don't bother looking for it. Life is suffering. You will suffer until you die. Spoiler alert.

@@screwgoogle4993 all of that applies to conservatives as well in a way

Same. That’s how they gethca

Except it’s not even close to correct. This kid is so uninformed and ignorant, I wouldn’t even know where to begin tearing apart his analysis. I can’t believe this is how young people are being educated on the world. I’m almost at a loss for words. Absolutely painful.

tell me you're terminally online without telling me

Murrica, wendigoon did a great job going over all the politics

Same!

And we know what happened to Turing the minute the war ended. Ghoulish shit. You'll notice, too, that Marvel movies (and comics!) do the exact same thing. Harry Potter did it. A lot of beloved franchises have a marked tendency to do this, and it's never not infuriating every single time they do it.

Same as how in Naruto all societal problems of the ninja world are swept under the rug because focus was on a alien that wanted to rule it all and got defeated by the underdog turned chosen one, who wants to retain the status quo only telling everyone to be a little nicer.

Not to critique the interpretation, but honestly think the writers worked backwards. Like chicken little story is about some who thinks the sky is falling the core of this movie is creating a scenario where the sky is literally falling to turn the fable on its head and everything was built backwards from there. Like okay what if the sky was actually falling? it could be a fake sky tile. Where would that come from? I know aliens. And then on from there.

@@islandboy9381 what happens when you combine lazy writing and you want to milk you franchise even more..., damn I hate Boruto and those stupid aliens :c

Wow true

God, the fact that I actually loved it as a child too ... yeah same. Down to the autism too.

Same there

Lol so i am not the only one. Chicken Little is like me on a movie XD that's why i love it probably

As an autistic lad who was lucky enough to have fairly accepting parents, I can still relate cause lots of other people certainly were not.

i always related to fish out of water more

I find it really funny that Disney apparently couldn't leave the movie as horrible as it was, they had to throw in a tasteless joke that specifically reinforced the myth that covered up their animal abuse

I remember we were shown White Wilderness in the 6th grade and were told about the lemming thing, I remember thinking wtf

norm of the north

I thought you meant the film crew threw themselves off the cliffs 🤣🤣

Most commies get their beliefs from hollywood movies so I am not surprised.

i always liked for that reason i understood it was bad but it had the same effect of those old racist cartoons disney made the sheer outrageous levels of wtf were amazing

Same it really disturbed me as a kid

the racism did suck tho

​@@dobs8737 ._.?

@@GayAndDog basically my humer is heavily affected by shock/dark humor

Imagine if Chicken Little lost by Cluck supported him anyways. Even that alone would make for a much better “redemption” of his character.

What sucks is… in early storyboards, I think he does take the shit for his son. They left that part out intentionally. I think they were trying to go for this father that sucks going for a redemption at the end, but just made him suck.

there's literally a scene of CL confronting his father in the movie but go off

A pig made for screaming and mostly fat jokes

I’ll take a hilariously and insultingly bad movie over a mediocre one cause at least the former is funny

@@enzoaraya4796 I would choose that too

It’s like an onion. Each layer makes me cry in pain more.

there arent layers here bro this is just some schizo mouthing off big buzzwords like they mean something

@@shyguy85 why would anyone listen someone who uses an ableist slur and insults to get their point across? If you are going to criticize then you should list why it’s not deep.

"yeah, that."

I mean...Feels kind of like being trapped in the capitalistic cycle to me.

@@ZeonTwilight yeah but there’s no criticism of it by the end, the way it’s presented suggests the message is neoliberalism is good if enough people like you

​@@jqsm1neS *Glances uncomfortably towards the number of really crappy politicians with checkered pasts and general disinterest in helping society at large still having an incredible amount of support* I mean, I think there's no criticism of it because the movie is ultimately supportive of that mindset. Because America is a pretty flawed country that venerates a pull yourself up by your bootstraps, exceptionalism or bust mentality if you're not a member of a privlidged group. I think the ending is sort of delightful in it's horribleness. In the way that even our protagonists, who've all the experience to know that the system is pretty screwed up, are contented once they are finally accepted by society.

A Goofy Movie does all of the themes of Chicken Little a million times better without the weird neoliberal bootlicking and it's about fuckin Goofy

@@islandboy9381 Yep! Basically!

What a hell of a thing to be typecast as Dog principal who exaggerates children's screw ups

Wallace Shawn plays a lot of pain-in-the-neck characters like that. He was Bob's jerk boss in "The Incredibles."

is he the guy that voices Rex? and Eustace in the Courage fog special?

Like when the edibles kick in and you discuss the weirdest shit with your friends. It's the best thing ever

It makes me think of how there were people who, when the plot was explained to them, didn't understand that it was meant to read as horrific. Edit: In fact, this is where the line "we all sell out every day" comes from.

The Foundation for Economic Education did an interesting Out of Frame episode on They Live.

Defunctland's arch-nemesis

Saaaaame. Like at first I was like "oh this movie is great, these kids are outcasts and deal with parental problems like me and they beat the odds,yay!" And then looking back it's just...yiiiikes.

Eh, they tried.

As the weird kid, it felt comforting to see someone in my position

@@kaitlynp5823 yeah chicken little himself was a comfort to me for sure

Moreso that he had a clique of weird friends. Easier to not feel the sting of thinking yourself a 'loser' when you're with other misfits and can try to talk about this stuff.

Or low key it was just a truth serum

I mean, don't knock it 'til you try it. Feminine virtues are still virtues, even if they mostly come off as 'weird' from this bearded person's current sense of fashions and sensibilities; the same one who took nearly three tries to finish typing this comment... ...So, I guess, what it is I'm trying to say is, thanks for reclaiming the Q, but I think what I'm really out here looking for is an upside-down M or L... and I apologize again for rambling. Opening up can be difficult, especially from one who's, erm... 'Not very easy.'

No typos I would notice until the very end. "Bear" with me.

@@normanclatcher okay, thanks.

​@@squirrelthegamer8483...I think you might've misunderstood my friend from earlier: 'bear' with him.

Ideally, a family film. (A moment of silence for those who don't have, or who haven't found their 'family' to watch this with them.)

Litteraly every movie that comes out now

You are asking him to cover every american piece of media ever made

Basically Hollywood in a nutshell:')

he would have to cover like every movie made in the west at this point 😭

"neoliberal" being defined as capitalism in this very video is an example. commie fucks always love to blame what enables them to exist in the first place. and by the way, it's not "neoliberalism", it's marxism and gullible liberals who only ever came to their "beliefs" when the government shoved it down their soft skulls before they could intellectually defend themselves. That's why everything is "nazi nazi nazi" now. That's exactly what was shoved into the heads of kids for generations, and now it's bearing fruit. A mindless populace whose thoughts could be switched off with the utterance of key phrases.

Cliff reaches into his backpack and extracts: _his trusty Survival Manual._

Looking back it's pretty sad that I loved Chicken Little as a kid partially because I found him relatable.

I don't think it does even relatability right when the movie actively makes you feel bad for relating to it, thats just me tho

I have watched this when I was a little child 😭 and I am not even American

Prayge

Child character freaking out, screaming, and hiding something. Your impression was valid.

Spot on.

You should read more books on economics

This is an idea that can only form if you've lived in a city your whole life

@@homelessalcoholic2716 u dont use currency? Electricity? Water? Gas? A car? Very few pple can say they r totally disconnected and considering ur on KZfaq I doubt ur one of the few. Ur part of a society that needs each other to function, we should act like it...

Yum, democracy.

This movie taught me to appreciate the value of suffering in a social sense. While it not necessarily ought to be sought, it produces values of understanding and empathy.

Me at age 27: Cool, cool. :)

an alien having eyelashes isn't attacking you for being gay you dork

Would that I could simply find the mythical 'Rosie the Riveter.'

Same

I'm invested.

@@normanclatcher haha

@@gregoryford2532 good point

Also Buck Cluck had to come to take care of his own son, taking responsibility and going against gender roles. He acknowledges that he was emotionally distant and that he was wrong and supports his son, finally, when the world is ending. It might be idealistic but what's wrong with an unrealistic happy ending sometimes?

@@gregoryford2532 I believe I gave the explanation. And that was the point of the Berklee comment.

In Soviet Oakland, you talk against the Norm, the Norm talks against you.

I'm taking that as a compliment lmao!

XDDDDDDDDD

Changeling moment.

Yep

yes exactly

how are you everywhere lmao