Melee is Balanced

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ArchiveSaus

ArchiveSaus

4 жыл бұрын

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@silokhawk
@silokhawk 3 жыл бұрын
I was playing with my 8 year old cousin and beat him using Bowser so basically Bowser is a viable character now
@hsifyarc2072
@hsifyarc2072 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Silok
@thatvideogamenerd887
@thatvideogamenerd887 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@murtymcfly
@murtymcfly 3 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, so is master hand
@toony9986
@toony9986 3 жыл бұрын
Understandable
@robertcaldwell6267
@robertcaldwell6267 3 жыл бұрын
Bob ross
@xrlylyl4089
@xrlylyl4089 4 жыл бұрын
Poor falcon tried to spike luigi and the invisible wall glitch occured
@Fish21
@Fish21 4 жыл бұрын
ah i thought that was a phantom
@Josefumika
@Josefumika 4 жыл бұрын
Falcon got a phantom down air on Luigi and nobody knew what happened. He was just a pixel off and it occured. It isnt the invisible wall glitch
@GrumpleStumpkin
@GrumpleStumpkin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Josefumika No. Luigi was put into his hurt animation. That doesn't happen with phantom hits. Also, Falcon's down air did it's full 16%. Phantom hits only do half damage.
@0xAPEX
@0xAPEX 4 жыл бұрын
melee > ultimate do not change my mind
@Mitchmckeeguitar
@Mitchmckeeguitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@0xAPEX nobody cares enough to change your mind. Play the games you enjoy
@iceypumpkinhead
@iceypumpkinhead 4 жыл бұрын
Falcon: *stomps Luigi* Physics: _im gonna pretend I didn't see that_
@Josefumika
@Josefumika 4 жыл бұрын
Falcon got a phantom down air on Luigi and nobody knew what happened. He was just a pixel off and it occured
@KuronekoShrimpSama
@KuronekoShrimpSama 4 жыл бұрын
@@Josefumika invisible ceiling glitch
@yourboy9236
@yourboy9236 4 жыл бұрын
@@Josefumika wasn't phantom, did full damage
@MyaTimes4
@MyaTimes4 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourboy9236 phantom does damage but not knockback.
@Herm33
@Herm33 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyaTimes4 it still wasnt a phantom. No one has ever been able to explain it
@Slipdash
@Slipdash 4 жыл бұрын
Mario’s down throw chain grab the best chaingrab of the low tiers
@WoffoAndLammy
@WoffoAndLammy 4 жыл бұрын
Ness is pretty scary too, at least on fast fallers
@abdosamadmussa1472
@abdosamadmussa1472 4 жыл бұрын
What about Mr.G&W on spacies ?
@SonikkuAtrue
@SonikkuAtrue 4 жыл бұрын
*Pichu
@kingkrispy5289
@kingkrispy5289 4 жыл бұрын
dk cargo?
@cabbage72
@cabbage72 4 жыл бұрын
Ganon d throw?
@AGA151994
@AGA151994 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: French commentator: oH LalaLALaLalalalalaLa
@faris8631
@faris8631 4 жыл бұрын
it was BIG annoying
@kindaepicngl1671
@kindaepicngl1671 4 жыл бұрын
@@faris8631 it was funi
@lnboxco397
@lnboxco397 4 жыл бұрын
Nous on fait du bon pain en France
@sulIy
@sulIy 4 жыл бұрын
The French love their lalalas
@wabafstudio760
@wabafstudio760 4 жыл бұрын
@@lnboxco397 La baguette tradition... Tellement bon :3
@mr.gamewatch1143
@mr.gamewatch1143 4 жыл бұрын
*This does put a smile in my face.*
@evahelie7207
@evahelie7207 4 жыл бұрын
@Who Knows except bad characters do exist
@lordlouie3550
@lordlouie3550 4 жыл бұрын
Ethan Helie * G A N O N D O R F* (Brawl)
@fuzz134
@fuzz134 4 жыл бұрын
Who Knows Brawl Ganondorf is literally considered one of the worst characters to exist in a fighting game ever.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 4 жыл бұрын
Who Knows no there is a thing called bad characters
@fuzz134
@fuzz134 4 жыл бұрын
Who Knows He can be used, but he’s a bad character. Being good with a bad character doesn’t make that character good.
@Doesnotmatternomore
@Doesnotmatternomore 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a fun video but what actually makes most characters “unplayable” is their matchup with Marth. A lot of low tiers can do decent against the spacies, largely because the spacies’ fall speed and recovery let’s you punish their mistakes into oblivion (even though spacies will still win if played optimally). But Marth slaughters just about every low tier without a decent disjoint. Approaching is a nightmare. You can’t style on them the way you can style on fox. Fighting on FD night as well be hell. You can always win in theory, but it isn’t fun to play. If you want to show a character is viable (or even just playable) show their Marth matchup.
@moronribbons5774
@moronribbons5774 4 жыл бұрын
Qerb: haha *yes*
@Skyrura
@Skyrura 4 жыл бұрын
*I think he knows*
@garretthunter2916
@garretthunter2916 4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t discount fox, he has a positive or even matchup with every character, excluding marth on FD.
@EeveeShadowBacon
@EeveeShadowBacon 4 жыл бұрын
So marth is the one who decides your viability
@ekene4886
@ekene4886 4 жыл бұрын
"You're not that bad? Who decided that? You're viable? Who decided that?.. I'm the one who gets to decide! Cruel Tipper!" - Marth probably
@felipesalvatierra805
@felipesalvatierra805 4 жыл бұрын
Heeeeew: "I beg to differ."
@lordlouie3550
@lordlouie3550 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@iapr18
@iapr18 4 жыл бұрын
ArchiveSaus: "I begged to differ first"
@iapr18
@iapr18 4 жыл бұрын
Boreworm Boreworm This video seems to be a response to Heeeeew's "Melee is broken", if you haven't seen it I recommend you watch it
@lordlouie3550
@lordlouie3550 4 жыл бұрын
Jin I’ve seen it
@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN
@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN 4 жыл бұрын
Broken and balanced are orthogonal axises.
@swissmagic
@swissmagic 4 жыл бұрын
1:45 the beefy smash doods are in the front row of the crowd
@LunaMinuna
@LunaMinuna 4 жыл бұрын
Oh they are
@tacticaljunk1608
@tacticaljunk1608 4 жыл бұрын
stay beefy
@ROYEWITHNOE
@ROYEWITHNOE 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a sub to these “doods”
@jasonholland721
@jasonholland721 4 жыл бұрын
So?
@gothtearz
@gothtearz 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Holland - Just a cool fact. Go be annoying elsewhere sweetheart ;)
@AMnotQ
@AMnotQ 4 жыл бұрын
Even after almost a whole year and a reupload, this is still the most confused comments section in Melee content history. Nobody seems to understand the purpose of the video, or the slight sarcasm held within the title.
@shitpost-o-matic7469
@shitpost-o-matic7469 3 жыл бұрын
Nice iron giant pfp
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 3 жыл бұрын
then what was the point of showing players beating top players with mid or low tiers? Give us an insight. Just because a character can beat another doesn't make that character good or the game balanced
@huntersowards3409
@huntersowards3409 3 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 It's just showing that even though the characters might be considered unplayable in tournaments, they still have the ability to succeed even if just barely. The video's goal is to make you realize that other characters can do at least something.
@kkmac7247
@kkmac7247 3 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 cool montage
@Cold_Ham_on_Rye
@Cold_Ham_on_Rye 3 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 If you have watched any of his other videos he references the poor balancing regularly so it's obviously a joke. Even more apparent when he included the last clip.
@MATTierial
@MATTierial 4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Kage's run at Canada cup had him facing three Sheiks in a row into top 8, all ranked higher than him... Faceroll (I think) then Android, and the last one being M2K. M2K would go on to win the tournament, so a respectable loss to end his run. I really wish Kage had stayed active more after that tournament, he was on 🔥. I feel like Canada Cup 2017 is so underrated in the history of Smash. Kage went deep, and M2K was prime, hitting those AMSAH techs against Leffen, and pulling off a sick Thundercatz combo on Dreamland. Legendary.
@MATTierial
@MATTierial 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jenaxu except M2K did complete the losers run. He won Canada Cup! At the time it was called "The Return of the King"
@userperkingmacbeth6715
@userperkingmacbeth6715 4 жыл бұрын
“Melee is balanced” is an oxymoron.
@ijexa1
@ijexa1 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@briggasnax8575
@briggasnax8575 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@comettitun8087
@comettitun8087 4 жыл бұрын
its fairly balanced among the high tiers
@fattburger6801
@fattburger6801 4 жыл бұрын
comett itun And not so much with the rest of the cast
@comettitun8087
@comettitun8087 4 жыл бұрын
@@fattburger6801 good
@notyou6674
@notyou6674 4 жыл бұрын
thanks i like this video have a good day asumsaus
@archivesaus
@archivesaus 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! hope you have a good one too
@chaboki
@chaboki 4 жыл бұрын
(Lower tier characters barely scrape by) "Melee is Balanced"
@aetherius6221
@aetherius6221 3 жыл бұрын
The impressiveness isn't in a convincing win, its in character compared to ranking. #58 fox beaten by an unranked DK? Thats crazy
@TamagoMAS
@TamagoMAS 3 жыл бұрын
​@@aetherius6221Samus SD's against Ness? Ness is balanced
@pooperdooper3576
@pooperdooper3576 3 жыл бұрын
I dont see any problem. The lower tier character won. Even if they barely scraped by that just means that the tier list is much more even than people say it is.
@subthescrub3063
@subthescrub3063 3 жыл бұрын
@@pooperdooper3576 those are called upsets. By that logic i could say ult ganon is viable because i beat a joker on quickplay
@pooperdooper3576
@pooperdooper3576 3 жыл бұрын
@@subthescrub3063 this is at a much higher level of play then ssbu quick play
@PurpleFreezerPage
@PurpleFreezerPage 4 жыл бұрын
How were the sword hit sounds in melee made? They're rad.
@cocomunga
@cocomunga 4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of them are from Kirby Superstar
@PurpleFreezerPage
@PurpleFreezerPage 4 жыл бұрын
cocomunga hmm I wonder how those were made
@QuantemDeconstructor
@QuantemDeconstructor 4 жыл бұрын
probably tearing paper or something along those lines I mean star wars laser sounds were made with metal slinkies
@rotundmonibuv5103
@rotundmonibuv5103 4 жыл бұрын
Most of Melee's sound effects were stock sounds
@sebastienmonette6659
@sebastienmonette6659 2 жыл бұрын
@@cocomunga no, those sounds are slightly different
@dingding12321
@dingding12321 4 жыл бұрын
What's always interesting about low tiers is that their games are close in stocks, and against a number of top tiers a few bad reads or mistakes can cost them the match. Notice how no one among all these low tier users 4-stocks or blows out anyone in this video.
@DANCERcow
@DANCERcow 4 жыл бұрын
m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7t7fNGpmLLUgmQ.html m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jb15o6Scl9nFYGw.html That's because you've never bothered to look for! ._.
@UhhhDust
@UhhhDust 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of the reason for that has nothing to do with the ranked player's character choice. It moreso is that everyone that uses a top tier here is also ranked top 100 in the world on top of playing a better character.
@shiffpup2529
@shiffpup2529 4 жыл бұрын
@@DANCERcow He said 'in this video' not 'ever.'
@opalander
@opalander 4 жыл бұрын
Just because a player lost a stock with a character doesn't make that character bad.
@opalander
@opalander 4 жыл бұрын
@@shiffpup2529 Argue semantics all you want, it's clear what he really meant.
@SmiguelS
@SmiguelS 3 жыл бұрын
13:06 Dude this is the first guy I've seen smiling while playing vs. Ness
@ellie8272
@ellie8272 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah Luigi's viable because he got saved by the invisible ceiling glitch lmao
@givecamichips
@givecamichips 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Luigi is affected by the Invisible ceiling glitch the longest.
@Marc-rw3dd
@Marc-rw3dd 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why he used that clip. It doesn't really make luigi viable, it rarely even happens.
@MorphRed
@MorphRed 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marc-rw3dd It actually happens a lot with Luigi because of his low traction
@zonecalibur372
@zonecalibur372 3 жыл бұрын
It’s basically a Luigi tech honestly
@umbra9915
@umbra9915 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not a video about showing that worse characters are viable, it's about low-tier upsets.
@havenandaura
@havenandaura 4 жыл бұрын
In that Ness v Samus clip wtf was that stage selection O_O
@emishimaru-sama6449
@emishimaru-sama6449 4 жыл бұрын
I am more concerned about the fact that the Birdo Egg exploded. How lucky xD
@emishimaru-sama6449
@emishimaru-sama6449 4 жыл бұрын
What about that? >.> [Don't tell me that's a glitch >:o]
@chuckbatman5
@chuckbatman5 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did not realize the SMB2 stage was tournament legal in Melee, seems odd
@yuribacon
@yuribacon 4 жыл бұрын
​@@chuckbatman5 Its not. Smash the Record (the tournament that clip was from) used a different ruleset that's not generally considered good for competitive play so they use the weird jank the extra typically banned stages can have as an incentive to get people to donate (and generally better appeal to more casual viewers for better viewership, hence also leading to more donations). Those are certainly top competitive players, and it was a tournament, but competitive standards wasn't really the point of this tournament. www.ssbwiki.com/Tournament:Smash_the_Record_2016
@chuckbatman5
@chuckbatman5 4 жыл бұрын
@@yuribacon yeah that makes sense
@MISTERSLAPYEAH
@MISTERSLAPYEAH 4 жыл бұрын
You know you’re good at mewtwo when you hear “OLOLOLOLO THE MEWTWO”
@alfonshedstrom9859
@alfonshedstrom9859 4 жыл бұрын
7:23 What is this? Ultimate Mario? *doesnt kill at 100% with a fair offstage* Nevermind
@Panda0fRed
@Panda0fRed 4 жыл бұрын
Alfons Hedström meteor canceling is a thing which you can't do in Ultimate.
@ImCookieSparx
@ImCookieSparx 4 жыл бұрын
A rookie is the god of disrespecting fairs and chaingrabs. Mario is still top tier with the old Melee tierlist. Even if the tier list was old, he was still a good balanced character.
@LightningCayo
@LightningCayo 4 жыл бұрын
“A skilled Roy can beat any Fox” they say. Same goes for Bowser
@99wins31
@99wins31 2 жыл бұрын
Not Kirby though
@DawNoah
@DawNoah 4 жыл бұрын
5:09 it looks like he’s about to complain about Mewtwo in Twitter
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 4 жыл бұрын
He was the mewtwo but i get the joke
@XFanmarX
@XFanmarX 3 жыл бұрын
5:10 Did this guy just have a stroke or what? I'm usually pretty good at deciphering incoherent gibberish but this guy takes the cake.
@leiagabriele980
@leiagabriele980 Жыл бұрын
That was the Invisible Ceiling Glitch at 10:47. After Luigi Down Smashed at 10:45 on Falcon’s shield, he gets hit by the knee before the animation is done, sending him airborne. This puts him in the state of Invisibke Ceiling, so the next spike sent him slightly upwards instead of down
@inazumarai7690
@inazumarai7690 10 ай бұрын
putting that asumsaus knowledge to good use
@ADerpyZelda
@ADerpyZelda 4 жыл бұрын
That might've been the worst Luigi clip to showcase, that wasnt even Luigi, it was just melee being old and broken lol
@incidentlyaniguana2193
@incidentlyaniguana2193 4 жыл бұрын
The Luigi still got 2-2 to last stock for game 5 against s2j. Gotta give him credit even if he did win by a glitch.
@ernestoacosta7918
@ernestoacosta7918 4 жыл бұрын
But Luigi is easiest to do the glitch, pretty much the best one to do it, making his “set of tools” contain the glitch as well
@elcato8126
@elcato8126 4 жыл бұрын
@@ernestoacosta7918 that's the worst take ever said - everyone is capable of doing this glitch, it's in everyone's repitore. Don't dismiss his skill based on an exploit every character can use.
@ernestoacosta7918
@ernestoacosta7918 4 жыл бұрын
Power Mind woah calm down, I wasn’t dismissing his skills at all, I was saying he had a better ability for it, and how is that the worst take, you could think of worse takes?
@mcmb8254
@mcmb8254 4 жыл бұрын
Power Mind if it’s easiest to do with Luigi than that’s part of the skill of Luigi, you can get the glitch more often and use it more often to your advantage
@imthatgayguy
@imthatgayguy 4 жыл бұрын
that one commentator the entire match: alalalalalalalalalaalala
@camerongreenwell4687
@camerongreenwell4687 Жыл бұрын
Coming back after 2 amsa major wins. Feelsgoodman
@ENCHANTMEN_
@ENCHANTMEN_ 3 жыл бұрын
1:47 I love how the players just smile and fistbump while the crowd is freaking the fuck out
@jgaming-zy5bg
@jgaming-zy5bg 4 жыл бұрын
I liked it when the guy went alalalalalala and then some more uhhh lalalalalalalala
@paris2777
@paris2777 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when tournament player smile and fist bump even when their opponent wins. It warms the heart, man.
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 4 жыл бұрын
_There’s a popoff comin’_ Truer words have never been spoken.
@jehutyinp
@jehutyinp 4 жыл бұрын
Amsa victory was way too anime especially when axe being the side character hugging his friend after the great battle.
@harpot678
@harpot678 2 жыл бұрын
You can actually argue that Yoshi is a good character in the hands of aMSa, anyone else its hard to make that aargument lol
@kittyratrawr
@kittyratrawr Жыл бұрын
@@harpot678 so not a good character
@SethJV
@SethJV 9 ай бұрын
@@kittyratrawr It's a good character nonetheless. Everybody plays with the same Yoshi as aMSa does.
@kittyratrawr
@kittyratrawr 9 ай бұрын
@@SethJV i agree, i was just saying their wording was weird lol
@grean00
@grean00 4 жыл бұрын
Moe's reactions to every single action in the game are so great
@crustitoad8175
@crustitoad8175 3 жыл бұрын
the part where hungrybox 3 stocked a samuswith ness is now my new favorite melee clip
@AxiomApe
@AxiomApe 4 жыл бұрын
*_"F E A R T H E L O W T I E R S"_*
@hypnotoad28
@hypnotoad28 4 жыл бұрын
I think _almost_ every character has potential to be great, it's just down to people playing them/practicing with them and innovating.
@mrt129_luigi
@mrt129_luigi 4 жыл бұрын
kirby
@romram7984
@romram7984 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way tbh, its why no matter what i continue to use characters like pichu that others wouldnt nornally main. Though honestly i dont go into the "who do you main" thing too much since I'm playing to have fun at the end of the day
@hypnotoad28
@hypnotoad28 4 жыл бұрын
@@romram7984 Exactly. I don't really "main" anyone. I'd say my favorite character is Game and Watch, but I don't "main" him. I feel ya man.
@hypnotoad28
@hypnotoad28 4 жыл бұрын
@@romram7984 I'd personally say Pichu is among the least likely due to the self-damage btw
@benhanson4199
@benhanson4199 4 жыл бұрын
This game is 18 years old man, some characters just dont have room for innovation. Half the cast sees basically no competitve play for a reason.
@claytonmessinger6794
@claytonmessinger6794 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, song at the beginning is Big Noise From Winnetka
@cannedsas
@cannedsas 3 жыл бұрын
bro doc is such an underrated character his shorthop into nair or fair is INSANE
@hypotheticaltapeworm
@hypotheticaltapeworm 4 жыл бұрын
2:20 Tfw you're Twyna maneuvew awound da piws by useen da top pwatfowm deyew
@eugenioleanza9190
@eugenioleanza9190 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@bomb4r719
@bomb4r719 4 жыл бұрын
I love that last clip proving that samus isn’t a good character by having her SD 3 times. Clearly a balanced character, as you can see from this skillful defeat.
@chuckbatman5
@chuckbatman5 4 жыл бұрын
I mean that clip wasn't so much "Samus is bad", it was more "Ness is good" which he is
@saraskyline8331
@saraskyline8331 4 жыл бұрын
An Explosive KZfaq Channel another HBox hater
@saraskyline8331
@saraskyline8331 4 жыл бұрын
An Explosive KZfaq Channel 2 times actually his 3rd stock he got spiked and 1st stock got spiked again
@bomb4r719
@bomb4r719 4 жыл бұрын
That’s... rather presumptuous... I genuinley like hungrybox, I just left my gut reaction to seeing that gameplay here - it doesn’t suit the point of the video
@incidentlyaniguana2193
@incidentlyaniguana2193 4 жыл бұрын
@@bomb4r719 I mean, Hbox is a good Ness by Ness standards, but he isn't good enough to compete at a high level with him. That set was just him and Hugs playing around. I mean, they were playing on Mushroom Kingdom II. And I don't think the video should be taken as seriously saying that low tiers are viable as it was mostly gameplay among lower to mid levels of competition with a few exceptions.
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 4 жыл бұрын
I love melee, it’s very fun to watch, but I never liked how the camera worked. Edit: P K F R O S T I hate that person so much lmao
@PuffyBuffy25
@PuffyBuffy25 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't PK freeze from Lucas? Lucas wasnt in this game.
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Andonuts from Mother bound Again, I hate that guy lmao
@PuffyBuffy25
@PuffyBuffy25 4 жыл бұрын
@@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 So Lucas?
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Andonuts from Mother bound Yeah, I hate him in smash, but I mean the announcer guy that said “p k f r o s t”
@PuffyBuffy25
@PuffyBuffy25 4 жыл бұрын
@@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450 Oh you meant like the announcer for the tournament? I gotcha.
@alexanderstilianov
@alexanderstilianov 4 жыл бұрын
There's something greatly satisfying about the abimation of Ganondorf's Dair.
@gsneaky8107
@gsneaky8107 4 жыл бұрын
Hungrybox playing Ness has made me develop a new respect for him
@link8893
@link8893 4 жыл бұрын
1:50 - Beefy Smash Doods Dudes. They are sitting in the front of the crowd roughly slightly to the right of the middle of the screen.
@Panda0fRed
@Panda0fRed 4 жыл бұрын
Link Woah
@BMN_Prime
@BMN_Prime 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that one anouncer just saying la la la la
@michaelmcarthur2944
@michaelmcarthur2944 11 ай бұрын
10:42 that invisible ceiling is beautiful
@pisslizard01
@pisslizard01 4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t really the current melee tier list. It’s really old, and the meta has changed a whole lot since then. Armada’s Tier List is generally accepted as the true one for 2019. It’d be nice to have a new official tier list, but it doesn’t look like it’s happening anytime soon
@necromax13
@necromax13 4 жыл бұрын
This video is old, btw, this is a reupload.
@pisslizard01
@pisslizard01 4 жыл бұрын
Victor the Kid yeah, just letting people know that the meta of this game’s stayed super active
@bell6002
@bell6002 3 жыл бұрын
@@pisslizard01 your statement holds up. there's a new melee tier list released just a month ago and a lot has changed (jigglypuff is now s, bowser is now the worst character, etc)
@Pirate_Booty
@Pirate_Booty Жыл бұрын
Little did he know amsa would go on to whoop literally everyone’s ass as yoshi
@cadeschweitzer9051
@cadeschweitzer9051 3 жыл бұрын
lmao i love the slime and ludwig commentating
@tgr3423
@tgr3423 3 жыл бұрын
TFW the invisible ceiling is just Luigi tech
@ayui69
@ayui69 4 жыл бұрын
Heeew: *Melee is Broken* Archivesaus: *Hold my beer*
@smiith5
@smiith5 4 жыл бұрын
He knew he would've spilled it when he fell.
@brokeangryjerry9605
@brokeangryjerry9605 4 жыл бұрын
i feel like the real reason for making this video is to spark a riot lmao
@Muppet567
@Muppet567 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Wadosan
@Wadosan 3 жыл бұрын
To think that we thought Yoshi was ever unviable…
@DeeDolp
@DeeDolp 11 ай бұрын
7:09 jumpscared by Slime and Ludwig’s voices
@BLACKIE16491
@BLACKIE16491 4 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo has been my main since Melee
@AmmerBros
@AmmerBros 4 жыл бұрын
i mean.... they win some but you don't see consistency
@gumbo9545
@gumbo9545 4 жыл бұрын
aMSa has really consistent results
@AmmerBros
@AmmerBros 4 жыл бұрын
@@gumbo9545 true. I think Yoshi is better than people think. and that may be true for other low tiers as well. I just don't think all of the examples in this video really prove the point it's trying to make. but I'm on board with the idea.
@solowecr6840
@solowecr6840 4 жыл бұрын
@@AmmerBros I think it's also because amsa has tech skills on par with the gods. He singlehandedly brought his character up the tiers, and has beaten many good players in recent years. Hell he is up 3-0 against Mango in their past encounters, which can't be said by many this year.
@jactotum
@jactotum 4 жыл бұрын
This shows how sick luigo is: *invisible ceiling*
@ThePhoenix561
@ThePhoenix561 3 жыл бұрын
I just love "If you DI into it, is it really a chaingrab?"
@paulsalterego8700
@paulsalterego8700 4 жыл бұрын
Just because someone can play a bad character exceptionally well doesn't mean that character is good...
@DANCERcow
@DANCERcow 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does!
@jakeystarsuper
@jakeystarsuper 4 жыл бұрын
@@DANCERcow not exactly. Tiers exist for a reason.
@peanutbutterpikachu
@peanutbutterpikachu 4 жыл бұрын
PaulSalterEgo and just because a good character lacks a player base doesn't mean they're bad.
@DANCERcow
@DANCERcow 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeystarsuper lmao you ignorant swine! Tier list are what created these separations within the community! Tier list hurt the meta and stagnate it!
@jakeystarsuper
@jakeystarsuper 4 жыл бұрын
@@DANCERcow dont know where you get that from but thats what makes it fun to watch
@dulljumbo4321
@dulljumbo4321 4 жыл бұрын
basically bad matchup knowledge: the video
@falconplayz6118
@falconplayz6118 4 жыл бұрын
OutOfCommision nah melee is totally balanced
@ASpaceFox
@ASpaceFox 4 жыл бұрын
People using matchup inexperience as an argument for a character "being better than everyone thinks" is such a huge pet peev of mine.
@peanutbutterpikachu
@peanutbutterpikachu 4 жыл бұрын
A SpaceFox ult players will call Palu top 5 and then mii brawler low tier. One has a player base and the other doesn't, and I think the differences start and stop there. Ppl would rather complain about Palu than actually try to figure her out. I don't see many people saying how you can deal with her shit. For other top tiers, there's counterplay actually talked about. There's even counterplay to palu's nair and combo starters into it. Don't jump if you're expecting it and punish her if she tries to down throw you off a grab. Just grab her and start your combo
@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm
@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm 4 жыл бұрын
Peanut Butter Pikachu there’s a difference between figuring out palu, who can beat most options with invulnerability, and figuring out Lucina, who is more of an honest top tier
@ASpaceFox
@ASpaceFox 4 жыл бұрын
@@peanutbutterpikachu There are literally entire discord groups for each character that do their best to study the full potential of every character, including mii brawler. Can't say that's a valid argument.
@ontiverostorresisrael9342
@ontiverostorresisrael9342 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that donkey Kong is just made for just destroy your existence in the right hands
@scorby2
@scorby2 Жыл бұрын
hearing lud do melee commentary was a throwback
@chaoskiwi2257
@chaoskiwi2257 4 жыл бұрын
This totally makes the case that melee is balanced a hand full of matches against some somewhat notable player
@mrfrog1794
@mrfrog1794 4 жыл бұрын
this is a channel dedicated to cringey/memeable melee highlights i don't think this video is intended as a serious thesis on melee's metagame
@marzipancutter8144
@marzipancutter8144 4 жыл бұрын
"Melee is balanced" more like "Professor Pro can't deal with unfamiliar Matchups.mp4"
@MyaTimes4
@MyaTimes4 4 жыл бұрын
Leffen was the Mewtwo in this vid lmao
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 3 жыл бұрын
not really. It's just proving mid and low tiers can beat a top tier. Doesn't make the game balanced.
@chaoskiwi2257
@chaoskiwi2257 3 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 I was being sarcastic
@Mimi-qx5yq
@Mimi-qx5yq 4 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo is extra T H I C C
@DragongodZenos
@DragongodZenos 3 жыл бұрын
hungrybox offering amsa the hand shows how much of a good sportsman he is.
@theonlybass8947
@theonlybass8947 4 жыл бұрын
this video is far more relevant after zain fulfilled the skilled roy prophecy
@13menrollingdown
@13menrollingdown 3 жыл бұрын
I play a bunch of Ness on Slippi, and I have to say, Melee Ness really doesn't feel bad once you have a good grip of his jenky mobility. His string/combo game is as solid as you could ask for, his double jump cancels are incredible mobility mix-ups (though honestly, not cancelling the double jump is more of a mix-up), his uair and fair landing lag ain't bad even if you fuck up the L-cancel, he's a slow faller until you don't want him to be then he fast as fuck, neutral B usually gets me at least one safe edgeguard kill a game, his bat was at its longest range in Melee by FAR which makes for a very strong/relatively safe tipper wavesmash option, and don't even get me started on yoyo glitch fuckery 😁 sheik and marth can be rough matchups imo, but I don't mind seeing the rest of the roster!
@founderofnewporkcity
@founderofnewporkcity Жыл бұрын
I main G&W, and he isn't really that bad. He may be low tier but once you get used to it, you can do amazing things. With the nair or fair, you can launch pretty easily
@keko9719
@keko9719 4 жыл бұрын
A skilled roy
@Phychologik
@Phychologik 4 жыл бұрын
Can beat any boi
@beancroc425
@beancroc425 4 жыл бұрын
This video is a perfect example of skill vs tier picking
@adamkampen
@adamkampen 4 жыл бұрын
That Ganon Shiek clip makes me very happy
@leaffinite2001
@leaffinite2001 4 жыл бұрын
Rewatching all these on the new channel! Hope it helps :(
@kerlobee
@kerlobee 4 жыл бұрын
Smash Player: "Worst Fox player in the game" Professor Pro: "No, I am not!" Smash Player: **Hovers over any F- character** Professor Pro: **begins sweating profusely**
@Tothro
@Tothro 2 жыл бұрын
"Both of these guys are very emotional players" understatement of the era.
@carreragt006
@carreragt006 4 жыл бұрын
This...does put a smile in my face
@someoneimportant2517
@someoneimportant2517 4 жыл бұрын
And when everyone is ss tier like fox, no one will be ss tier like fox.
@carloskoo7844
@carloskoo7844 4 жыл бұрын
Reference!
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 3 жыл бұрын
so even then everybody's top tier, fox will still remain higher, proving that he's broken. The game isn't balanced
@rushkirt7
@rushkirt7 4 жыл бұрын
Tier list: *exists* Low tiers: we don't need that
@Swagner17
@Swagner17 4 жыл бұрын
commentary at end legendary
@dissonanceparadiddle
@dissonanceparadiddle 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love when the meta game gets shaken like this
@dorkk5431
@dorkk5431 4 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see the loser seem proud of the guy that beat them with a non-meta character
@sethstoll8525
@sethstoll8525 3 жыл бұрын
Winning always feels better when your opponent is a good sport about it
@slytheguy6988
@slytheguy6988 4 жыл бұрын
11:29 Can we just take the time to appreciate how Hugs didn't give up, and was catching up to Hbox, despite losing two stocks really quickly, and most likely not just giving up then and there? Big respect to him.
@harpot678
@harpot678 2 жыл бұрын
My first question is
@harpot678
@harpot678 2 жыл бұрын
Why hugo lost to Hbox Ness I thought he was rank 27
@DrRalls
@DrRalls 3 жыл бұрын
This video makes me happy
@olcadan_13
@olcadan_13 4 жыл бұрын
is that rick sanchez at 6:40 lmao
@ParadoxBoxx
@ParadoxBoxx 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@antoniotamajon2700
@antoniotamajon2700 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to be rude or anything, and while this video is fun to watch simply because of the great matches/plays that appear in it, it doesn't really prove anything. Tier lists exist for a reason, and that reason is to determine which characters are objectively the ones that have more tools to overcome an obstacle (a.k.a. "are better"). Putting a bunch of clips of low tiers winning against top tiers doesn't show low tiers are more viable, it shows that that person with that character played better against the other one, on that particular scenario. Plus, The Big House 5 clip with the Luigi-not-taking-downward-momentum bullshit is specially misplaced. If you wanted to show that Abate is a great player and that he can beat other guys' top tier characters, why did you put in the video the one time he won just because of a glitch? Tl;dr: This video is fun to watch, but it doesn't prove at all the point you're trying to make.
@rang4889
@rang4889 4 жыл бұрын
It does prove a point
@antoniotamajon2700
@antoniotamajon2700 4 жыл бұрын
@@rang4889 don't know what are you talking about but it's not the one stated at the very beggining, so it doesn't matter.
@rang4889
@rang4889 4 жыл бұрын
@@antoniotamajon2700 Melee is balanced, the player is the one who can choose to get great with a character. With enough hard work you can win with any character
@antoniotamajon2700
@antoniotamajon2700 4 жыл бұрын
@@rang4889 bruh I stopped taking you seriously at "Melee is balanced"
@rang4889
@rang4889 4 жыл бұрын
@@antoniotamajon2700 you just don't want to admit how stupid you sound, so you don't want to listen to other peoples opinions
@spudsbuchlaw
@spudsbuchlaw 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta till someone whips out a low tier at a major
@spagandhi
@spagandhi 4 жыл бұрын
Heeew: oh, you’re challenging me?
@eatpears3510
@eatpears3510 4 жыл бұрын
Melee is balanced, gets wobbled by ice climbers, melee is almost balanced
@manligi9701
@manligi9701 4 жыл бұрын
Rough that you had to re-upload this
@CesarTorres61296
@CesarTorres61296 3 жыл бұрын
"A skilled Bowser can beat any Fox."
@TheDoughboy1917
@TheDoughboy1917 2 жыл бұрын
Now *this* is the competitive Melee I want to see!
@ReticularTunic7
@ReticularTunic7 4 жыл бұрын
is this a re-upload ?
@felipo_galaxy1853
@felipo_galaxy1853 4 жыл бұрын
The original videos got taken down
@ReticularTunic7
@ReticularTunic7 4 жыл бұрын
felipo_ galaxy why ?
@IAm-zo1bo
@IAm-zo1bo 4 жыл бұрын
Because youtubr
@KDestroyer9
@KDestroyer9 2 жыл бұрын
TL;DR Skill > Tier
@mrtisfree
@mrtisfree 3 жыл бұрын
Now i need to see a kirby beat a fox
@Jamiehalv
@Jamiehalv 3 жыл бұрын
anyone know the intro song? I swear i've heard it before somewhere
@Robbie_Haruna
@Robbie_Haruna 4 жыл бұрын
>Melee >Balanced Pick one.
@andrewsantos4801
@andrewsantos4801 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that a mid tier beating a high tier is montage worthy proves that melee is unbalanced
@joyuz6583
@joyuz6583 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was ironic, but no, I was pleasantly surprised. Good vid!
@dylanangsengsiatsass2688
@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 2 жыл бұрын
kurby's grabs can still be broken out
@dianauwu1312
@dianauwu1312 4 жыл бұрын
Every character is good in the right situation. I do think experimenting with "bad" characters is a fantastic thing, maybe someone will shake up the meta. Unlikely, but worth the effort.
@user-fe8gx3ie5v
@user-fe8gx3ie5v 2 жыл бұрын
Humans can't change genders.
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