Man, that surpassed all of my expectations. The production value is getting better with each video and the way you edited the Delinquent skits and the co-op footage is fantastic. It was an honour to take part in this legendary series, thanks for the invitation!

You did a great, unbiased opinion on this CLASSIC megawad. Kudos to you not caving to the general population and giving your personal opinion. This was many, many years ago, of course. The world needs more reviewers like you, or maybe just you. I would prefer just you. Again, great job, and thanks for hanging in there and doing this great review in your own words. I love the "delinquent" :)

Decino, Doomkid, and Dean of Doom delve in darkness to divulge the drudgery and derangement of a decrepit wad, whilst Delinquent delivers disparaging distractions.

I love this "triple D" crossover: decino, doomkid, and the dean

MtPain27: Gives Memento Mori a D+ Doomkid: "We are now mortal enemies"

"The Stand is going to turn people away, especially newcomers to Doom in the 2020's who want to give an oldie a spin." This rang true. The key tagged as a secret on map04 is what ended my playthrough of this wad.

"Memento Morons" LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good stuff, fiend. Edit: That's a very big dunce cap... I understand why anyone would prefer to play only good WADs, but it's fitting for the channel's theme to play a stinker once in a while. Thanks for your endurance, the friends you brought along to suffer with you, and another episode!

Memento Mori is that mapset that keeps on escaping my mind. I saw the episode pop up, and I was like "Oh a classic! I never played it tho". And then I saw the first few levels, I told myself "Wait, I DID play it!" Says much about the quality of it

"[Cesspool is] the most obvious flunk in Dean of Doom history". I think Gene Bird deserves an apology.

Great video. I wasn't real good at the map making stuff, but they made me do it!

Fun fact. In "Viper" if you kill all the imps in the central tower from outside, the icon never wakes up. The sound trigger is inside the tower. So if you do that you can take out the cyberdemon in peace.

I think Delinquent cancelling the Dean Of Doom is one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while lmao

Pitch-shifting the Pain Elemental pain sound into a laugh is genius

Also MAP 25's jankiness makes the Build Engine as a whole look like a freaking saint that's for sure XD

Dean of Doom always appreciated in my recommendation tab, but ft. Decino is absolutely fantastic! Two my favourite doomtubers do feat with each other!

Seeing the participants of this episode already gets me exited!

Was I the only one expecting a "Fucking RAW!" when "Hell's Kitchen" came up?

I've always wanted more WADs with multiplayer playing an important role, as I feel many popular releases either don't bother with it, or have it playing second fiddle, possibly to the point of breaking, to the single player progression. Now that I know what's in Memento Mori, I'm not so sure. The whole pack seemed way too close to the edge of oblivion that most busted, horrendous, and unloved 90s maps fall into, but as a step above said nightmares, I can definitely acknowledge it holds its own. It's really cool seeing the production pick way up in this one, from getting the guests to record their screens, to the contrast of PE sounds with the delinquent's voice, and I don't believe anyone has yet to comment on how seamlessly the music is spliced into the presentation (and also the consistency of MtPain suiciding after every Icon death). It's clear that the role of being a figurative powerhouse of Doom representation is not taken for granted.

This wad hasn't aged well, but as a piece of Doom history it's invaluable. Also, nice to see jolly cooperation between doom youtubers.

You guys should do a show together and call it the WADcast.

I never knew Doomkid was Australian, and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little giddy learning one of my favourite doom people lives in the same country as me. Excellent video too MtPain, I’ve been hearing about MM for years since I joined the Doom community, and now I can see why it’s so highly spoken of, but I have to agree with your ranking. The wad isn’t that great all things considered, but some of the maps are a treat.

MM is for sure "certified hood classic", multiplayer is quite interesting and that bit with Delinquent was awesome(talking about bullying him with MM after what he did in HR1 episode? ( *wink wink* *nodge nodge* ), plus those puns on map 16 were absolutely burnt

Fun fact: I used to *enjoy* Map12, but holy fuck was I a dumb kid. You can die on the first staircase that you raise up because it can crush you into the top of the thing at the top. WHY? Fun fact: I *also* used to enjoy Map25, but again, I think it's because again, I was a dumb kid. I used to speedrun it and Map12 back in the day and I understand why people just don't, normally. I'd argue 12 is worse than 25 personally, but both have a L O T wrong with them. Having played this back in the early 2000s, this was a lot of fun back then. We didn't have the evolution of mapping that we do today and it really doesn't hold up anymore. I think, personally, the best maps in the set are Map02, Map03, Map04, Map14, Map15, Map23, Map24, Map26, and Map30. The worst of them being Map11, Map12, Map18, Map25, Map29. Everything else is either needlessly convoluted or flatly mediocre. It's an absolutely dated experience I feel people should play through *ONCE* to see where Doom mapping came from. There's at least that reason to play it. Lots of good ideas that just didn't work out, and given the time in which this was put together, I'm not sure there was enough creativity, engine knowledge, and inspiration to draw from, to pull them off. If this were released maybe 10 - 15 years later, the co-op stuff could easily have been worked in a lot better with a bit more work. I'd like to think though the reason that co-op was so heavily prominent here is that this is during some of the prime of Doom's limelight, so it only made sense back then to cater to playing with friends in some fashion. I can at least admire that much. It's a relic of it's time, for sure, but 100% has not aged at all. Regardless of all of this, it's still an important part of Doom history and I appreciate the coverage of it. For once, I don't have too many anecdotes to share about this particular project. I think if you like maps where you have to explore a lot, sort of like Eternal Doom, it might not be as bad, but it's awful if you're a completionist. Edited to add in that the exploit mentioned in Map31 can only be done once, and if you miss it in single player, you miss out on half the map. Which is just... stupid. I should know from experience. Can't tell you how many speedrunning attempts are ruined because that exploit sucks ass.

Yes, you can polish a turd until you can see your reflection in it. See Mythbusters. Doesn't save it from stinking however lol.

4:15 - Delinquent making the Pain Elemental sounds like Pacman's death - used ehre as a kinda laugh - it lit!

Memento Mori is up there with one of the WADs that's been burned into my brain from years of solo and multi-player sessions on ZDaemon. It's a morbid little curio I come back to remember fondly.

My hobby is watching these videos and finding accidental puns. Today the Dean referred to map 16, "Stoned," as a glob of "half-baked" ideas lmao

I love the delinquent's laugh, oh my god

Oh... boy. You already know it's gonna be a good episode when you see the infamous Delinquent of Doom in the first five seconds. Also, if/when this show ever ends, I would like it to conclude with a Delinquent of Doom redemption arc of sorts.

This episode has made Delinquent actually kinda cute with the Pain Elemental derived sounds they make.

Wow, now I know the original source of a bunch of random doom midis I've heard over the past 3 years. Thanks Mark Klem!

12:30 that's literally a Minecraft villager! Alden Bates successfully predicted the future!

Ah yes, been looking forward to this one! Will leave another comment after watching it!

How are you making these so quickly, damn. I missed the delinquent.

You missed me?

Wait this channel only has 8k subs? How is that possible? Doom is like the most loved game ever. Maybe most important game ever. Im glad i as there for its release. Blew my mind. But yeah SHARE this channel it should be MUCH bigger

See, a few years ago the Doomworld MegaWAD Club played MM through as well. There was a lot of complaining, and I distinctly remember MAP25, a worthy dunce cap winner if ever there were one, going down like a cup of cold sick. It’s really good that the classic orthodoxy is challenged, precisely because of what you (Dean) said - these “classics” are products of their time and are to be advanced beyond and overcome. Hopefully one day WADs like this will be relegated to curiosities, rather than top off the recommendations list from people of a certain vintage. I’ve been around forever, but even then this is before my time and was outdated when I signed up! Really good episode, Dean! Keep up the good work. Or take a break, if that’s the time of year!

That City of the Unavenged music is hilariously annoying, I can picture it slowly driving you insane XD

Absolutely loved the guest professors. One of your best episodes to date!

I *LOVE* the Delinquent's laugh.

As cool as it is to see what modern Doomers accomplish in such an old game with their decades of experience, I really do love looking at the classic wads and seeing what strange and inane decisions were being made back before the community's collective decades of experience set in.

Each new review keeps getting better and better.

Map 15 of Memento Mori is one of my favorite Doom levels. That showdown at the end against the horde is epic.

Yes, This is one of that episodes that I waited eagerly. Excellent!

two channels i have notifications for and your in that duo, love ur vids so much. cemented me into playing doom wads as a hobby.

As someone who loves Doom 2 and TNT, I love the crunchy 90's aesthetic and energy. But having tried to play this several times, the design is just so grindy and confusing. I respect the effort and creativity; these guys walked so Doomkid, Valkiriforce, and the DTWID team could run and I'm genuinely so thankful to it for that. But for me, it's just so dull. If I want to play a 90's wad without having to play a 90's wad, I'll Play Anomaly report, Rowdy Rudy's Revenge, or D2ISO.

"I'm not the deliquent of latin" cracked me up! 🤣

Well this was an unexpected surprise... But a welcome one for sure. Together with Doomkid, decino, coincident and you, you four are the holy quaternity of doomtubers. Civvie also makes quality stuff but with much less focus on doom. Enjoyable episode as always!

I love the delinquent's cackle. Creative use of that sound!

It gets hard trying to find a way to praise your videos in the comments every time, amazing video, loved the collabs and the Delinquent skits

This video review was really great! :) And thank you very much for having Decino join you during a few of the maps, I'm a big fan of his channel as well as yours, too!

Completely agree with you on this review. Your map28 experience was my whole experience of this megawad, minus maps 15, 30, and 31.

I love how the YT Classic Doom Community is so close to eachother Great watch, as always. Made my Tuesday evening 😁

You just made my day!!!! Memento Mori is the first WAD I ever played. Even if it hasn't aged well by today's standards of level design, it has a special place in my heart for being my first. Requiem was the one of that trilogy I put the most hours into way back in the day, and it hasn't aged well at all with it's cramped corridors and tight spaces, but I still have a love for it too.

"We keep on teaching the musty tomes, so people resent them enough to out do them". A clever description of college, haha

this is my most hyped episode, i requested a while back. AND DECINO AND DOOMKID!?

Oh sick a 40 minute crossover. Oh sick the Delinquent the back. Okay I'm laughing and the title card hasn't even dropped this is gonna be good. With the finale of this season nearing you've upped the budget with those moments with the Delinquent which gave me a good chuckle. Also the chaos with some of those co-op moments (especially the Decino stuff) was nice. Can't wait to see what bang (or bust) this season goes out with.

Yeeeeah, I can see why it would take so long to write up a proper lecture on this. I thought I hadn't given MM a fair shot because my first run of it was after "finishing" Sunlust (I played until the very start of map30 on HMP, got lost, went off to play other things and ended up losing the save file) and it bored me into moving off to play other wads, but I see I was not that far off the mark. If Professor Pain gives it the same grade as Hell Revealed 2, you know it's an old bag that wasn't necessarily good back in its heyday either. Memento Mori has a few flashes in the pan, but overall it's best remembered by confusing progression, poor game design direction, cheap traps, janky blend of singleplayer and co-op (for real, noclip is _mandatory_ if you want to see everything in singleplayer), being undeserving of Mark Klem's neato-burrito soundtrack, and for odd reasons, many rooms looking like bathrooms. I blame the overuse of the new ceramic tile textures. I have no bias for it and no love for it either. And I should point out, continuous play and carryover gear MURDER this wad's difficulty - I can easily give it a D- if played this way. One thing that needs mentioning is, Memento Mori came with a booklet of sorts. The Doomwiki has info on how to access it, but most of the nonsense is actually explained in the briefings you get for each level in it. A particularly cool one that you'll only see there is, Memento Mori is the codename of the military operation you're in! Lucky for us, Memento Mori 2 is FAAAAAR better. It's still jank and has its, ahem, _moments,_ but the vast majority of it is just plain fun, even if not super challenging. Trust me, MM2 has zero nostalgia value for me, and I still *_HIGHLY_* recommend it. EDIT: Oh yeah, massive shoutout to the assistant professors for this lecture! Some extra perspective outside of the usual MtPain method is great fun, and live commentary banter is always appreciated. That's how you keep a classroom engaged! (Well, aside from the Delinquent, but his engagement is a nerf dart to the back of his horn. Little dink.)

Played through this for the first time recently, thought I was having a stroke playing Map25. A lot of other maps were a bit too big on the "haha switch hunt" gimmick, especially when they don't toggle something nearby so you have to predict what they're supposed to do. Not as bad as some other megawads (Hate Eternal Doom because of this), hoping the sequel is a bit snazzier. Love the co-op crossover stuff though, that's great to see. Also TIL Doomkid is Australian too. Ayyyy~

Listening to decino talking about map mechanics is like listening to Stephen Hawking talking about black holes. Weirdly fascinating and joyful!

Most exciting notification i've gotten in a bit. Didn't expect you to cover MM given the reasons you list in the video lol. Great video. Loved the second of demon-voice you had after map30 ended.

Ah I missed the delinquent bits. Thank you. Omg it keeps getting even more funny. I love this.

I want a pet desynced Revanent. The punch sound would never get old.

This was great! You might not have cared for this WAD but that didn't stop your commentary from being super varied and entertaining. Definitely looking forward to more reviews like this.

Ooh! Celebrity spotlight episode. Excellent and entertaining as always.

Memento Mori was a relic of it's time, but sadly many other WADS that have been released after MM, have outclassed it in terms of design and charm

Let me guess, the season 2 finale will feature Memento Mori 2 :D It was nice to see coop play with both decino and Doomkid, appreciating some of coop-exclusive features in the wad

Memento Mori is best enjoyed after playing through a bunch of 1994 WADs, because it feels like the consensus on what makes a good Doom level is starting to coalesce, and although you still get the Wizardry style mazes, the hewing too close to what Romero had already done, and the oddball experiments that don't work at all, in terms of intensity and visuals it's a big step forward. You're pretty on the money, though. I'm a lot more charitable to it in general, and I think that MAP23 and MAP18 especially are worth playing regardless of the rest of the WAD, and the fight at the start of MAP28 is such a ride that it almost makes up for the hour or so of dead air.

I never played Memento Mori, but looking at the maps compared to what I played of Memento Mori 2, the difference in quality feels pretty astounding. Also, all the commentary on references and homages to original Doom maps makes me even more interested in an episode covering Doom the Way id Did.

Will be honest, was holding off on this MegaWAD mostly because I wasn't sure how its co-op leaning design would effect the gameplay on single player, so it was nice to see you drop a review of this one. Stellar review as always, MtPain. This season has been quite the fantastic showcase.

Great to see this old fossil of a wad even despite its mediocrities. IMO, Memento Mori 2 is far better than the first one and I'd love to see it eventually.

Wow, I can't wait for an episode about MM2! That was the first time I saw the "impossible" bridges in Doom and my mind was totally blown away. I also liked that in deathmatch many levels were totally different (the maps contained separate locations for DM mode).

Always good to see the gawd himself, Decino. I’m always watching his stuff 🙌🏾 this has directed me to Doomkid as well 💪🏾

A very fine episode overall. The Delinquent is always a highlight for me, good guy cameos, and a sharp grading marker for the stinker maps.

I played through this a couple of years ago. I was using the Doom 3 mod and I genuinely had a good time. Twilight Labs was definitely my favourite. Love the layout and design and how they brought that together using old software. Good to see collaborations. Good video

Wooow! I ve been looking forward to this one for quite some time

So many special guests! Amazing review and its always great to see you collaborating with others especially decino and doomkid! Ohh and the delenquent of doom is always a treat xD momento mori seems brutal tho. Il probably tackle it when i have a lot of time on my hands

Loving this show so far, really great stuff and really intuitive in terms of how you break down the levels, you're clearly passionate about this kind of stuff and it shows. In the fashion of 90's megawads, one lesser-known wad I'd really like to see on this channel is Herian 2, a one-man project from 1999 with some surprisingly immersive atmosphere and effective story-driven plot. If you like puzzles, you'll particularly enjoy it, but if you don't, it... probably won't be as enjoyable.

8:53 Decino could be at 1% health and still say he has enough

This was a great episode! Nice to see other perspectives on the same megawad. If Season 2 is the same length as Season 1 (20 Episodes) I wonder what exciting thing you have planned for the finale... I can't wait!!

Great work guys. Haven't heard anyone talking about Doom Elementarism Phase 1. To me, it was a nice surprise.

I think this might be your best video yet just as good as the scythe 2 review 😉

We should call the Decino, Doomkid and Dean of doom triplet... DDDoomers

Excellent. I enjoyed the greater involvement of guests and the delinquent.

We were more easily pleased a quarter of a century ago. I loved this megawad and its successor although I was aware even back then of its flaws. Great to see the legendary decino here!

I like the CoOp shenanigans W/ DoomGods. I'd like to see more.

“The most obvious flunk in Dean Of Doom history” AND THIS IS AFTER GOIN DOWN 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Loved this one Pain, I liked the addition of some other Doomers in the show too :D

The delinquent is back? And the Dutch pumpkin and the boozing bowser??? Great episode! I'm super excited for the finale now 😀

Love the coverage of a 90's WAD! Hope you're considering covering more of them for the next season. I'd love to hear your thoughts on something like Perdition's Gate, Hell to Pay, or the Lost Episodes

4:13 We already knew that you were a dirty cheater. We still remember when you cheated the entire way through Sunlust a few episodes back

"MAP08 And the dead shall rise" >>Orin Flaharty must've been a big Romero fan.

"I googled it" lol that was a pretty funny exchange

Decino and Doomkid?? Talk about a star studded cast! Great episode, stuff like this is what had me binging the entire series in a couple of days!

Glad to know I’m not missing anything having never played this “classic.”

i vaguely remember playing through this more than a decade ago.

It's so cute, you play with Decino. I wouldn't push you towards more crossovers with him but it is really nice to see him with ya.

This episode is like a Dean of Doom blockbuster ! I didn't expect you to cover MM, but I suppose it's a mandatory WAD to play for your Doom culture. You're very harsh with 90's maps, haha. I understand that it can be hard to come back to these old maps when you are used to the high quality modern maps... and actually, that's why I'm glad that, when I really started to play Pwads, I made a list of Pwads that looked interesting to me and I decided to discover them in the chronological order, so I could see their quality according to the context of when they were released, without being biased by modern standards of mapping. And most maps in MM are way above the standard maps from the 1994-1996 period (not only considering Doom Pwads, but also commercial Doom-likes from this era), some of them even being amongst my favorite maps of the 90's (I absolutely love map 15, the Casali maps, and map 28 also!). But yeah, these maps certainly suffer from poor design choices that were common back then, so I totally understand your feeling about them. The cryptic nature of these maps is something that was so common that, to be honest, I didn't even pay attention to it the first time I played MM (well, except for some maps of course). It was normal to me, and I'm kinda used to it to be honest (to the point that I consider Hexen to be no confusing at all for instance, since I understand what the level designers had in mind most of the time). So, yeah, all that text to say that most of the flaws of these maps were just common level design mistakes from an era where FPS were still young... and considering this context, Memento Mori is a lot of fun and a great showcase of what the mid 90's had to offer at their best in terms of level design ! Now, I'm curious to know what you'd think of MM2 if you ever decide to review it, since a lot of players consider it better than MM, but the maps in MM2 are even longer and more cryptic than the ones in MM, so I never liked the second MM as much as the first one. I'd love to hear your thoughts about that one day ! I hope what I wrote is clear, because I'm not a native English speaker, and sometimes I wonder if I'm not too confusing, haha.

YES! Waited for it for so long!

This was a great episode!