Come on guys if it looks like a horse, walks like a horse and shits like a horse it's a horse, they shafted him and you all know it.

Oh come on…so now were calling Sir Lewis Hamilton a liar & paranoid. If you guys, believe that all things being equal, HAM was going to leave Merc at end of 2024 and out perform his teammate was never going to HAM. It has to be publicly ’seen’ that RUS is the better of the 2 drivers since RUS is the new chosen star for Mercedes. We don’t know. what’s actually going on, but if LH is publicly saying something is off, then I believe something is off.

Lewis said that some blame was on him, but he said there were external factors as well, hence not dismissing his previous allegations.

I think lewis who has 7 world championships would know, if he says something is not right well I'm going to believe him over your onion which is only a opinion you have no proof either way your not a professional racing driver or a professional analysit .

The "Bottas did plenty to help him in Hungary" comment was priceless and quite accurate😆

All this seems to ignore the fact there were stages of the race Lewis was the fastest man on track - catching the front four (quite apart from him having the fastest lap). I looked at that race and thought this proves he hasn't lost it - he will win a race this season. He lost this race because he got held up by Alonso for a long time and then only had a set of hard new tyres. If one or two things had gone his way, he could have won - even from 7th.

CultLh really can't accept the fact that George is the new #1 at MB. Unfortunately, toto doesn't have the balls to say it to lewis nor the public, so they seem to be sabotaging lewis but actually just prioritising George

What make these guys experts?? What would Sir. Lewis gained from lying? It’s not like Mercedes has the best track record…🤔

Remember Cam, on the first stint, they always leave Lewis out, but they brought both cas in, Lewis probably could of gone all race the way he manages his tires ❤❤❤.

Ask Peter Windsor what Honda did in favour of Piquet vs Mansell. Im not saying Ham sabotage though

They are Using Subtle Engineering Underhand Tactics hoping Lewis will not pick up those, they forget Lewis is also Mechanically SAVY

Are you serious? Prost is a liar? I've seen a photograph of the engine in the box. In black ink..SENNA. 12:49

15:07 Well said 👍🏼

In old money the soft in Canada was the ultra ultra soft, need to change tyres again before you get out the pit lane 😂🙌🏻

Jacque Villanerve was spot on about Danny right 👍🏼 Liam has to get a seat, I’d sign him for my Audi Team along side Hulkenberg, however if I was Christian he’d have had Perez seat for Bahrain.

I’m sure Lewis sleeps better at night knowing 3 arm chair racing experts tell him what’s happening at Mercedes and how to race a car. He’ll be so relieved at those plonkers insights. 🙄

According to the Pirelli graph and Allison alluded to it as well, Lewis had no fresh soft.

I love the dramatic 🎻 🎻on lead in. Is that Baxty? Honestly this is one of my faves u 3 hashing it out with intelligent points and historic wheel knowledge - it really helps a new fan like myself. Love this pod! Keep crackin on guys!

Don't let folks pull the covers over your eyes, always penalizing Lewis while everyone else gets breaks. ❤❤❤

Sorry it’s 2am in Melbourne, had a tough week lol 👍🏼

Yea never have these guests again😂 they are quoting “facts” out of thin air. None of what they were saying were direct quotes. They tried summarizing and did a terrible job at it… literally majority of what they were saying was completely opposite to what was really said and what actual former f1 drivers and team personnel have been saying regarding Lewis and the quali drop off/team internal conflict 😂 these guys know absolutely nothing

Lest we forget for the avoidance of doubt. This is becoming the goatiest podcast to ever F1 chaps. Oh the Humanity!

I’m a 9:07 Lewis fan and a Mclaren fan as you know, however I believe that Lewis has lost half a tenth on outright qualifying pace, which wouldn’t normally matter except now there is Red Bull with Max, Mclaren with Lando and Oscar and Jean Alesi in the Sc 24 2.1 you figure it out 👀🧐🤔🤯💥🤨🤐🤫👍🏼

Bearman will beat Ocon!? He can’t beat Vesti or Antonelli

Shaz needs to answer the question.

It cld of course, if true, be a subtle mind-game to undermine Lewis's confidence for next season. Yr guest is as calm and measured as the GOAT PW

One may argue that every element of F1 is corrupt except the drivers. 19:59

Love it, keep em coming boys.

The car was good in Canada. Could have been the cold track that helped the W15 not cook it's tyres. Let's see how we do in Spain under warmer or hot conditions. If we are still @ the front of the grid I might start believing we are back.

Love Baxty, but even when presented with facts, he still couldn't admit, specifically regarding the data.

Guys are we so desperate to sanitize F1 in general and Mercedes in particular to look fair that we are willing to ignore the possible causal relationship between less than ideal temperature in the tires and a massive mistake that causes time. If we’re not going to explore that possibility, then let us leave these issues alone and allow the public to form their own opinions. But as respectable journalist doing a deep dive into these issues, one must seek not to establish, but to disprove that one thing did not impact the other, as in the real world, having your mental capacity split to cover for the mistake of others can often lead to less than ideal performance. Lewis was not responsible for ensuring that the tires 🛞 leave the blanket at the prescribed temperature that’s the responsibility of the tire mechanics. Covering or making up for their mistakes has its own consequences. I’ve come to expect better, more even from this one of my favorite channels. This level of reasoning is laughable. Cam your my guy every day but as you say ‘truth must not be sacrificed for partisanship’ I say objectivity must not be sacrificed to encourage tolerance. At this time the prosecution rest.

Lewis said his tyres were okay in practice sessions and come quali, its off. Every race, that’s happened. Not just Canada. For as simple as listen to his interviews, he said it clearly. His interviews in Monaco he mentioned it happened all race. Again, pick up the details guys. Like come on. Look back at his interviews in Monaco and Canada and write it down. The foul play is easy to mask when he experimented with setups but after China, he knew . Lewis knew it. You guys can’t be that blind to see his pace was on during Canada practice sessions. But suddenly he’s behind in quali. He made no changes in setup. 2:15 We’re not taking just about Canada Q3 ffs! Mecedes get to puff up George! What else?! They need to sell the sponsors that George is better than Lewis. But seriously you guys believe 8-1 ?? Suddenly Lewis is poor in quali. Oh suddenly Lewis don’t know his tyres off temp. They already did the FU to Lewis. You guys just turn a blind eyes. Merc and Ferrari are diff teams. Ferrari always blunder the unexpected. You guys need to do your research guys, Lewis didn’t want to pit but they force him to pit. Because they want to pit George. Lewis even said his tyres were not even graining. They said to Lewis hard tyres is faster than medium! Thats funny! Look for his radio. It’s there.

Cameron...would Horner have gone crowd surfing if it was the other way round? Just asking as you like to compare the two TPs.

The great thing is....the Truth will come out. He left MCL for Mcde and won.. Guess What will happen at FER.

Q3/2nd run - and at least 4 cars bettered their runs to overtake Lewis. Meanwhile, neither Mercedes drivers improved.. Russell was on provisional pole, and Hamilton was at that time in 3rd. We can't blame changing conditions, since other drivers improved, all we have is undercooked tires which possibly affected both drivers... Also, let's not forget Russell's pole had the good fortune of a tow. Were it not for that tow, he would have been back where Hamilton finished and overtaken by those 4 faster drivers. Who knows, Mercedes might have made more of an effort to warm both their tires.

So many Team LH members are going to end it all after Charles lays down a spanking on Lewis. Bro cant even beat GR how is he gonna beat Charles.

C’mon guys, the track temp was down by 5 degrees Celsius. That’s what happened. 👀🧐🤔🤯💥🤨🤐🤫 3:17 Why would they sabotage Lewis, it’s embarrassing, Toto has more integrity than that ffs. Guys 🤨

Shez how dare you drag Ferrari and Charles into this drama!

5:33 Lewis had no more mediums 🤯💥👀🧐🤬🤨🤐🤫

Without Lewis in 2021, Merc wouldnt have a whiff of that championship! It was disrespectful to be honest.

Maybe sabotage is a bit too stronger word but all this is to build up Russell’s confidence and the way to do this is to make sure he beats Lewis

18:12 Yes too much lack of knowledge about the sport. I’ve not missed a race since ‘96 and missed maybe 5-6since I started watching in 1978, I was 2 years old and all my free time is spend on reading about or watching f1, just look at my previous post lol 👀🧐🤔🤐🤫

24:05 Toto is pissed about losing Lewis, of course, Lewis is Mercedes, let’s see how they do without him and I bet they wished they listened to him before 2022 season. 👀🧐🤔🤯💥🤨🤐🤫

Cam, i love your devotion to the truth so i will like to contribute to make your show better. It is pronounced "scu-de-rìa". The stress is on the last syllabus and it should be high

31:43 who drops the ball worse Ferrari or England TesT Cricket Team 🤯💥

33:44 Yes put the Chicane back in Barcelona for this year please 🙏🏼 lol 🤪

Lewis should take some of the blame. Clearly the team is going to be favouring George (the guy staying). No matter what they say in the press. Lewis should’ve demanded the softs with 17 laps to go. At this point. He has to trust his instincts because the team isn’t going to put his interests first anymore.

Talking about the mistake is there a possibility that the mistake at the last corner can be attributed to cold tyre?

They possibly didn't have time to get his tyres up to temp before he needed them. Sometimes time dictates decisions and actions.

Explaining it away ❤❤❤.

Bearman after a season, like Oscar 40:07

You obviously don't know Toto and the Pain, Hurt & the way Lewis treated him in the handling of the move to Ferrari. Toto was extremely Hurt, Humiliated & made a fool off !! He woulkd & WILL do anything to get back at Lewis even at great cost to Mercedes !!!!!!!

23:00 about the Hamilton sabotage... why is my brain thinking there was something about this in Drive To Survive during the Mercedes Episode... my brain got de ja vu so I need to go watch it again and report back nah was just complaining about the engineers lol

@JayQ2…yeah, but obviously not his race pace, which RUS can’t compete with!

Shaa implying Lewis is incompetent is brazen. Dude, he is losing to George makes him incompetent? Wow, just wow!!!

Much appreciation for the sane logical reasoning from you all. I hope the LH cultist can come around to this kind of thinking too. We’re all fans of Sir Lewis in the end and some have been with him since he was a baby face rookie sliding around on the Top Gear track in a Suzuki.

I think you have to take into consideration a unique generational talent in all sorts there is always an exception to the rule. You have to apply this rule to Lewis lost of form is not down to age!

Cameron you are the best! Love this channel. The only thing I disagree with is Merc saying they didn't want to put all their eggs in one basket. Because there are many races where both cars start with same tire and pit to same tires. It's not sabotage, it's just something that went George's way. No Biggie. To prove my point watch when they actually be hypocritical when that does happen. Once again it's not sabotage. It's just happening this way. Oh the humanity l! 😊 My first question to Alison will be, what happened to the diversifying the tire strategy with your 2 drivers...

Ocon to Mercedes for a 1 year deal wouldn’t surprise because he’s out of the Mercedes Academy.. like him or loath him he does have a win and in some circumstances he’s been more than able to get into the top 10 points paying finishes for Alpine here and there..

They were only 10 Laps old so why change them????

1 beard fits all 🧔🏻✔️😂

The proper tracks will show the true pace. Mercedes and Mclaren will both finish above RB in Spain

Guys something is off on Ham's car,Then for you guys You think Toto is happy for him?,nonsense....

Let’s for arguments sake assume they dropped the tyre temps so he doesn’t out qualify Russel. And he can’t in one lap up the temp enough to stop the sliding which slows you down. Then in the race even if the temps are off over a few laps the temps come to the right window and suddenly Lewis has superior race pace, which seems to happen all the time. There is a ring of truth in that, I don’t think you can deny that. I’m not decrying Russell, he is rapid. Not at all. And I support all English Drivers. If it is happening it’s a sad state that toto has turned as soon as Lewis isn’t of use to him. I know people that dislike Lewis are quick to kick him. But for balance he’s achieved far more than all you losers put together. 😂.

The seething and coping will be so good once Charles shits all over Lewis next year.

THEY LIED TO HIM ABOUT NOT HAVING OTHER CHOICES! Softs can easily go 15 laps! They didn't want to give him the opportunity to beat his team mate! That's not an accident! That's intentional!

Guys are we so desperate to make F1 and Mercedes look fear that we are willing to ignore the possible causal relationship between less than ideal temperature in the tires and a massive mistake that causes time. If we’re not going to explore that possibility, then let us leave these issues alone and allow the public to form their own opinions. But as respectable journalist doing a deep dive into these issues, one must seek not to establish, but to disprove that one thing did not impact the other, as in the real world, having your mental capacity split to cover for the mistake of others can often lead to less than ideal performance. Lewis was not responsible for ensuring that the tires 🛞 leave the blanket at the prescribed temperature that’s the responsibility of the tire mechanics. Covering or making up for their mistakes has its own consequences. At this time the prosecution rest.

Who are these muppets ? Sandbagging the car…

Cameron, I must commend you for orchestrating this discussion. However, it's crucial for everyone to consider all the facts. Let's refrain from attributing motives to SLH (he simply posed a question), as he's seasoned in such matters and will take his time to navigate through it. George should aim to gather as much of SLH's data as possible, but ultimately, a copy is just that-a replica without the original essence. Here's a little humor for you: Knock knock. "What did the $100 bill say to the counterfeit $100?" Answer: "You only hold value when: (1) I'm not around or (2) with someone who doesn't know the difference." Good luck with that!

Ocon to Mercedes 🤘🏿🤘🏿😅😁😉

Is Mercedes back? Behave yourself Cameron 🤣

Bottas was much better than Checo in 2021. Also, why would he care if Lewis wins the WDC. Merc won the WCC. Job done from his POV

I love you guys ! Cheers from Quebec !

Put that in your pipe and smoke it my good sirs !!!!!! LOL

To be fair, Lewis is using the media against people, or are we seriously going to pretend slight smirks, half finished comments etc in interviews, the car aso is not a part of a highly intelligent human being using his surroundings to his best advantage? He know people listen and he understand how it will be interpreted, that IS the whole point of it for Pete's sake, can people truly not be free of the bias for even 5 sec to see it, so easy it's been going on for most of his career. Not being stupid is a choice, my English language sucks and still so easy to see, it's the facial micro expressions, the body language, the vibes, everything just ooze of it. Does that say Lewis is a shitty person? Obviously not, I think he is more genuine than many reg people out there, but as human we are also flawed, all us of have got them Lewis is no darn exception and holiness himself always to be believed lol.

Methinks thou do'st project too much, Sir Cam. On balance I'd have to say yr sabotage theory has been cluster bombed by logic and common sense.

LH fanbase is looking like Donald Trump fanbase at this time. Totally devoted and any other facts, opinions and logic is being dismissed and rigged. Some of them don’t even watch the ( full) vid. Cam is playing Devils Advocate here. The other 2 pundits explain very well why the thin hat brigade have to take a good look at themselves. What are you doing, it’s chaos. Lewis second part of the season is always better. For now he’s taking a beating from his fast teammate. Deal with it.

I'm done with this channel. It's always been borderline click bait

Getting Sainz out is looking like a decent decision by Fred lately tbh he looked more like my gardener on Sunday, but getting Ham in isn’t looking like the greatest solution. I can see all sorts of Red carnage in 12 months time, surely they must be doing some head scratching above Fred.

THEY CALLED KANYE WEST CRAZY 🤪 AND BIOPOLAR FOR SPEAKING TRUTH 🔊, WE KNOW YOUR GAME 🎮 ❤❤❤.

What do they have to gain by sabotaging? No, more of what do they lose by allowing Gr to be beaten again like he was last year. A majority of the fanbase is leaving him, sponors and workers have or will leave. They are catering to those who remain and who Toto needs to remain. Its not hard to figure out. If Gr is supposed to be the future of the team can they afford for him to get beaten again? They cannot in this situation

These guys talking rubbish the truth is only one truth will prevail time will solve this

You cant reason with LH fans. I am shocked that they can listen to the same set of things that others are hearing and come to a completely different conclusion.

I never listen to this guy. His podcasts lack info.

I agree with a lot of the comments made here. I suppose since I have forgiven Valteri for apparently not being able to block or back up.. im in the doghouse

yikes

Toto said max deserves the championship and went cowd surfing..which team princpal in f1 would let that slide..Cameron you are not an LH supporter...you support max..Who has no team...never has...you all full of it....

#16 is going to mind game #44 to a total spanking.... disalusioning #44 into retirement after 1 season... you heard it hear first... plus your two guests are going to loose their grip on reality even more next year

Had AD2021 not happened as it did - then "magically" Mercedes was but a Yugo with wings n RB a rocket ship - perhaps I wouldn't be so quick to grab the tin foil hat - ESPECIALLY when Mercedes didn't lift a finger to fight for Sir Lewis

George will check Lewis's data and then snake him in the race whenever possible. Backsley is blind Toto doesnt give a toss about Lewis anymore not since 2021 yes celebrations are cool on the team championship but no fight on the mid race rule change? Toto is a snake. As teammates Botas is as bad as Perez their both 🗑️ but Backsley is right about get Lawson in the car tho definitely. Ocon and George crash bandicoot 😂🫣

For the avoidance of doubt... Chaos.

The question for me is why didn’t they put him on the hard after the slicks? James mentioned that the hard was the right tire but they gave Lewis the medium. they could have put them both on the hards right after the slicks. His race would have been ruined without the second SC because the medium they put him on would have been gone by the end of the race.

Sabotage shit is boring. Move on please

😂This is a joke to say it was better for Lewis to be on hards than stay out on the mediums gtfoh If Merc are a reputation based team then how good would Merc look if he outperforms George.. Leaves and Then they put a rookie in the car? Of course they benefit from Lewis being outperformed how you gonna try n catch front runners on the hardest compound when you have an average car n they are on mediums.. These chaps smoking they socks 😂

All these guys are talking as if they were former formula 1 drivers none of them are drivers

Lewis is embarassed, hence he is lying and trying to excuse losing to George. Its very simple. He will get out of this rut soon and drive well again. Everyone calm down.

For the last three years Lewis car was the test car

It seems that this channel is buying subscribers through sensationalism and gossip. It has lost objectivity at the altar of partisanship. Oh the humanity

Toto has no motivation to support Lewis. Toto looks bad if the man leaving is beating your next best thing. He's already lost the 7 time champion. George has to win! 6:56

It’s a massive disrespect to Russel as well. His performance is totally neglected. Stupid discussion.