MESBG TIER LIST: Evil LOTR Faction.

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18 күн бұрын

Moving on to our next mini series. we divide the factions up in to Good/Evil, LOTR/Hobbit in an effort to find what is the greatest faction in our game.
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@KieranBartonVO 17 күн бұрын

Haven’t watched yet, but looking forward to Sharkey’s Rogues being S tier (S for Sharkey)

@silveryoyo2293 17 күн бұрын

Man, I looooove me a noobs tier list. Never have I clicked a video so quick

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

😘

@ryanhenderson225 16 күн бұрын

51:00 Spitting truth here man! It would break the meta wide open if they were all green allies, but for the flavor I would accept all the armies that fought on the Pelenor Fields as green allies

@sarumanthewhite1527 16 күн бұрын

EXACTLY! Stupidest thing ever that they aren’t green allies.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Brother was on a rollllllll -Sean

@boromirii1727 15 күн бұрын

52:00 Far Harad half-trolls mentioned at the pelennor

@dylandaybell7151 17 күн бұрын

Hey, I was the Dale player 😂 and it was a hilarious game that ended in a draw. The scenario was assassination and we both broke each other. The most fun game I’ve had so far. 😂

@henrybrittain1763 17 күн бұрын

So that Ruffians image was from my event, The Battle of Brittain last week over at Atomic Cards in Swindon, and for added context it was Assassination between bog standard Ruffians led by Lotho vs Defenders of Erebor. Ended up being a draw XD.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Brilliant haha, but yeah man you need a bit more terrain on tables like that 😂 -Liam

@hunsler1006 16 күн бұрын

I think low A is whwre easterlings belong. Although i suppose it depends what criteria youre rating the faction on. If it's only the most competitive, maximised list, then i can see why you've put it there, even then, I've personally never struggled agaisnt the Dragon Emperor

@nehrigen 16 күн бұрын

I have a friend who placed 1st in a 20ish person tourney with Sharkeys Rogues. The key game was against Smaug. The Smaug played didn't realize it was impossible for him to win

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Great thing about this game is that no army is impossible to win tournaments with, it's all about scenarios, match ups, and the skill of the player more than the army itself -Liam

@lukesenyshyn4886 16 күн бұрын

Surprised you didn’t add LL into the video would be cool to see how you guys would rate them

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

We have done an LL specific tier list. You'll find that in our tier list playlist. -Sean

@shishisei 17 күн бұрын

I think top of A would have been fine for easterlings, as a balance between the S tier legion and the army, which is rarely played outside the legion. Curious about Harad (yet to listen). They appear in a lot of top placings, but always with Mordor and always with suladan. I guess It's kinda hard to rate armies that appear great on paper, but make results only in specific context

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Harad are a great army in their own right, they do require some careful piloting tho given their low defence but their shooting and cav are incredible especially paired with the betrayer -Liam

@stylesheetra9411 17 күн бұрын

that blue warg tho For angmar so true... wish they would nerf the ""spirits"" but improve everything else

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

You mean its beautiful? You're right -Liam

@stylesheetra9411 13 күн бұрын

@@NoobsandMen poor warg got blueberry poisoning Gothmog is truly a monster

@kylemckiernan1445 16 күн бұрын

Ok Easterlings are S in the LL but the factions should be ranked on themselves being a normal faction. A tier.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

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@princev8283 10 күн бұрын

My IsenKhand list would give ya guys a run for its money 😉 lot more fun A tier

@Blacknight8850 16 күн бұрын

Some of those alliances are pretty wild - Umbar are only convenient allies with Mordor because they got ambushed on their way to fight *in the army of Mordor?* Meanwhile Isengard can't ally with their neighbours Angmar or Mirkwood, but can be convenient allies with Khand or Far Harad because "hey, you never know!"

@hughman9975 15 күн бұрын

Angmar is a historical list, it existed a thousand years before isengard so that wouldn't make sense as an ally, same with any of the evil stuff in mirkwood. Khand and Far Harad are contemporary with Isengard at least, I agree they're extremely unlikely but still more likely that any sort of fell beings/Dol guldur or Angmar alliance

@Blacknight8850 15 күн бұрын

@@hughman9975 I see, I remembered Angmar as being mostly a grab bag of "misc" stuff like orcs, wargs and wraiths that would still be in the area by late 3rd Age, and Mirkwood as "basically spiders", I didn't realise they were specifically time-locked.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Mirkwood shouldn't be really locked to the hobbit that's for sure but yeah Angmar was very specifically the witch king fucking up arnor until it collapsed -Liam

@elladrinn4318 16 күн бұрын

where would you place dunland on this list? also missing goblin town? is that a faction or just a LL?

@NoobsandMen 16 күн бұрын

Dunland is a legion so not specifically represented in a faction but Isengard reflects their placing and Goblin town is in the Hobbit book not the LOTR book so it'll get ranked when we do Hobbit Evil armies -Liam

@user-gn5eo7yv3u 17 күн бұрын

hell yeah!!! pumped for this one. i predict angmar on top😅 edit: only B??? do you think the faq about in the ways for flying monsters hurt angmar a lot?

@NoobsandMen 17 күн бұрын

They're 'A' tier mate 😂 But also It did, but also like we said in the video, it's a shoehorned into a one play style army which just brings it down as a faction, it's powerful, it's easily a great army, but only when played a specific way, which puts so many great models to the sidelines -Liam

@user-gn5eo7yv3u 16 күн бұрын

@@NoobsandMen aah yeah, A Tier😅 we just happen to have an Angmar player who mastered this one playstyle to perfection... i sometimes wake up during the night, trenched in sweat mumbling "Gulavhar" over and over😂

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

I mastered the Dale play style a few years back and Liam was the same but it was Girion not Gully. Sadly still don't mean Dale with be S tier. -Sean

@josephallen715 15 күн бұрын

I'm really torn between starting with Isengard or starting with Mordor. Any advise?

@joshuaorourke1976 15 күн бұрын

I’d probably just go with what you think is cooler, as both are decent gameplay wise.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Yeah man Josh is 100% correct. Go with what you think is cooler. That's the golden rule. But if I'm going objectively on an army suited for a new player, it's isenguad without saruman. -Sean

@davygravy2 15 күн бұрын

“Unless you’re playing in the GBHL meta where there’s sweet f all terrain” You guys are great but man you Aussies have a real chip on your shoulders 😂

@NoobsandMen 13 күн бұрын

It's what we're here for

@egongeldhof8404 17 күн бұрын

Feels bad sitting here painting up my camelboyz...

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

They're still amazing and great fun to play for sure dude -Liam

@offroadturkey 17 күн бұрын

Khand! Khand! Khand!

@Keberus 17 күн бұрын

Yes! Milk it more!!! 😀 Legendary Legions could be easily 6 Videos more 😀! -> New year of video content planned ^^

@grimgrauman7650 16 күн бұрын

Umm.... ... the Khand chariots (warrior) have to choose between bow or Axe. So you can totally ally yellow a king with like 4 chariots and 3 horsemen.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

I'd rather kill myself then run any khandish chariots that have warriors attached to them 😂😂 -Sean

@boromirii1727 16 күн бұрын

MESBG TIER LIST: Evil LOTR Faction. (Wrong) MESBG TIER LIST: Evil LOTR Factions. (Correct)

@NoobsandMen 16 күн бұрын

Technically both are correct, we did get a "best faction" out of the video, the one that's top of S tier 😅 -Liam

@markduree 16 күн бұрын

Only one i really disagree with is Khand. Think at 500pts and below it slaps. Should be a B with big boy Sauron who’s only good at high points

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Fair enough mate, lower points they are good, we just rarely play below 500 over here so they just don't get a run out -Liam

@ripstainmcripstain905 16 күн бұрын

But whats the best Good faction?!!!

@TheBronf 16 күн бұрын

its clearly hobbits.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Stay tuned 😉 -Liam

@Seses209 17 күн бұрын

What new supplement are they talking about? Am I just blind, I don't think I heard about this....

@grimgrauman7650 16 күн бұрын

There is something coming for Arnor & Angmar. They showed some units already

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

Yeah the supplement isn't out yet but they're teasing it currently -Liam

@grimgrauman7650 16 күн бұрын

Just letting you know that you are totally wrong with Harad without the betrayer. I became 1-3 place on a couple of tournament with Harad, and never took the betrayer. Most of the time it's Suladan, Haradrim King on Horse with warspear and then Raza or Taskmaster for the Heros. Then a bunch of Abrahkan Guard and a couple of Watchers of Karna (against terror), with Warriors with Bow and Spear behind them. Also some Serpend Riders and Raiders with Bow (no warspear!) Is very good. You get just more models that way/the warrior models are better on their own. Also the betrayer is a shit magic caster. He can like only use 4-5 will for magic,rest for his poison ruel.Don't know why you always say that Harad has notable magic.

@TheBronf 16 күн бұрын

as someone who has never used harad but has a army sitting around for years. why not take the golden king of abrakhan? he seems really good

@grimgrauman7650 15 күн бұрын

@@TheBronf sadly he is not. His main problem is that he is only F4. His courage special ruel is not that usefull most of the time. Also 130p may be a fair price for him having a banner, 4 Attacks, 4wounds and is burly with two-handed weapon, but is not what you need in a Harad list. For a banner you have Suladan and you want more troops as they are more the strength of Harad (heros are good but mainly support the troops) He fine for a regular game, but not for a tournament. If he was F5 he would be acctuly quite good.

@NoobsandMen 15 күн бұрын

I mean, just because you've done well without the betrayer doesn't mean we're wrong, he's bloody good. Never said Harad can't be run without him -Liam

@grimgrauman7650 15 күн бұрын

@@NoobsandMen well.... .... you more or less did say that😅