OH MY GOD! I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! Thank you for your inspiring video on the MJ/Lebron debate! None of this would be possible without you!

Glad to help. Nice job on the video. :)

for you, who is the goat ? Messi or Ronaldo ? :)

@@cyrox5282 ronaldo

@@maaamosiyarabot8003 haha nice joke

Yeah 😂😂

hehe true

We hear to prove Ronaldo is better bro

And Copa América, I noticed this must’ve been a while ago because in the video he said Messi has never won the title.

Ronaldo is better

@@alecrappa3430 Ronaldo isn't even better than Mbappe 💀

@@alecrappa3430 at warming the bench? We know, bro is so good that no clubs wants him

He actually won 3 international trophies after this video. He won the Copa America 2021 against Brazil. He won Finalissima 2022 against the winner of the Euros which was Italy. Now they won the 2022 World Cup In total Messi has won 5 trophies for Argentina. You can’t forget his U-20 World Cup & Olympic Gold medal.

nations League and this finalissima shit are No trophies...Nobody Cares about this... Bayern and germany Fan Here and Messi is the best Player ever and nearly all the time He lost against Bayern or Germany but still I have never Seen a player comparable too him... Robben Had a similar playing Style in His Prime but still Messi was better in everything except pace and maybe shooting than Prime Robben... There will be No Other Player Like Messi again

@@tb2571 I don’t care what stage in Robben’s career you look at, his shooting ability was never even close to Messi’s.

@@tb2571 bro they are not anywhere close in both position and ability. Messi plays a False 9, where Robben is a pure winger. Apart from the earlier years where Messi would play as a pure winger, at his peak Messi plays centrally in the attack mid position. In any case, Robben doesnt have the passing ability Messi has to even have the same playstyle.

In 2014 his role changed to be more as a playmaker. Imagine if his role maintained as goalscorer he would score more

iniesta and xavi carried him lol

@@ammarkiller2314 pendu carried by kroos modrich

@@kabi2290 so kroos and modric are better than xavi and iniesta?

@@ammarkiller2314 🤣 messi can do playmaking like xavi and Iniesta. Ronaldo is nothing without goals. In 2012 go and check who is 3rd best playmaker and cry. Ronaldo is really carried by Modric and kroos

Ronaldo is one of the Top 3 assist provider of all time. Yeah, Messi's definitely the GOAT. No doubt abt that. But to say Cristiano's just a goalscorer is kind of disrespectful to his underrated playmaking qualities that he showcased in his prime.

@@mahdirahman2006 Messi assist is within the offense while Ronaldo pass when he's not at the prime position to scores. There a difference and to call Ronaldo a great goal scorer is not an insult but an acknowledgement of his abilities. We always call Ronaldo (Brazil) a great goal scorer as well 🇧🇷🇧🇷

Yes No one except Messi has crossed 300 assist . More than 350 assist 😎🤟

@@mahdirahman2006 what is mind blowing is messi play making is even better than modric (who is one the greatest playmakers)

@@mahdirahman2006 you look at the quality of most of his assist and it is poor a long ball or a lovely low ball from mostly marcelo kroos or modric and then he just taps it off to benzema or so. Messi assist he creates them himself

Ronaldo ended it 2016

@@alihammoud5250 don't agree with either but nice comment 😂

@@alihammoud5250 No the difference is Ronaldo's international trophy was the only thing that kept him in the conversation since almost in every other aspect possible he is way behind Messi. But now that Messi has his and actually has a WC final to add to this too there is just nothing else the CR7 fans have to say to make him look better.

@@nikosofidemporas hahahah man you are so dumb, maybe have forgotten about a torunament called champions League ? I just want you to look upp goals scored in the knockout stages in the cl and you Will se a big difference between the players hahahah. One of the is allways clutch and comebacks a game when it really mathers while the other becomes a ghost, just look at the last final against brazil Hahahha the first ”good opponent” in the whole tournament and in the match that he is supposed to step up in he becomes a ghost. You could clearly see that neymar was the best player on the pitch hahaha and messi one of the worst. Lastly i Will say look upp international goals scored against top 30 world ranked teams in competitions and not friendlys you Will se what comes up and you Will also ser that messi has not score a singel goal against top 10 world ranked team ahhahaha and last he has not scored a singel goal against brasil expept 5 goals in friendly games

@@alihammoud5250 Great, you cherry picked the UCL, the knockout stages and the Brazil game and totally left out all the great accomplishments this man did. Watch the video and make an argument based off of that. Don't cherry pick a certain time or competition. Grab both their resumes career wide and compare. Then come back to me with that nonsense.

That's true, bro)) Pristiano penaldo fans are in tears

​@@miyamoto5161Pelé

@@miyamoto5161nah ,Maradona is second place. Closest to Messi.

@@cripbk2147 bro…

@@vewayy CR7 isnt even top 5 1.Messi 2.Maradona 3.R9/Romário 4.Di Stefano(He could be#3) 5.Ronaldinho or Pele 6.Cruyff 7.Zidane 8.CR7

Месси в 2020 сделал ещё больше голевых передач ))) а за сезон он рекорд установил ещё в 2010-2011, отдав 34-37 голевых передач. Лучший, нет слов!!!

Bro said messi was a midfielder 💀🙏🏻

@@rodgod2624 Well, technically he was an attacking midfielder for most of his career. He doesn't have the height to be a centre foward

Messi had the most assists in 2011, in which he recorded 36 assists.

True!!!

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oh como on, Ronaldo also makes moments where everyone goes like how?

@@MarioLopez-hb6li well i Don't but i also love Ronaldo

@@MarioLopez-hb6li like that flying header, bicycle kick, wc free kick, etc...! And also all the last moment deciding goals... 🙌

Yeah Ronaldo obv isnt bad mans one of the greatest to ever grace the game 5 ballondors is no joke just 2nd highest , that too just 1 less than messi and he even switched alot of clubs and actually he isnt that gifted like some of the others even Neymar is more gifted than him but Ronaldo has 5 ballondors and Neymar not its incredible how such hard work simply made him surpass alot of natural gifted players by such a huge margin but yeah Messi is simply the GOAT

@@user-jn9rj7km9o FACTS. Neymar is criminally underrated

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@@user-jn9rj7km9o because neymar has the talent but doesn’t put the work in. Messi and Rolando have simply dominated the sport for too long for neymar to get a chance at the ballondor, not mentioning that the competition under Messi and Rolando is fucking insane

@@user-jn9rj7km9o He got all those awards just to hype up competition against Messi for financial and marketing purposes.

Nobody will become like Ronaldo you must respect him he is the 2nd GOAT behind Leo Messi 🐐 !! 🙃

@@psg7565 It's entirely feasible that a player may become like Ronaldo. He's sublime but I wouldn't register him within my top 3 or even top 5. Messi quite literally the perfect attacking player, he can score goals through any way (yes, even headers.)

@@IrishGuysScarf Not putting Ronaldo in your top 5 makes you lose all credibility and it just shows your hate or your lack of culture on Ronaldo dirty mentally retarded !!!

@@psg7565 cap

@@mysteriousmessenger3258 ??!!

In just one year, Messi won all the important trophies for Argentina just like that.

@@cripbk2147 EXACTLY. and now we hope he can win the ucl with psg so he can shut those ronaldo fans once and for all.

@@uacari lmao he don’t need too. The World Cup ended the debate 100%

@@uacari winning the UCL with PSG would be insane. After the World Cup at this point that would just be like completing a side-quest 😅

@@uacari i want 1 more UCL for him before he retire cuz its been a long time since he won one. about 7 years thats a long time

Pele is the GOAT

@@michaeltrumph121 🤣🤣🤣

@@Indra-2024 Laugh like a idiot all you want, that's the truth.

@@michaeltrumph121 Nope Pele is the greatest of his time, but the game has advanced wayyyy to much for him to be considered the best now. I watched his world cup games and the teams are laughably bad, like womans world cup level. They dont defend in formation, bad positioning, they dont close down spaces/passing lane, no pressing tactics ect, and the goalkeepers were a joke, playing in quicksand ect. Players back then didnt take care of thier bodies or train properly, and it showed on the pitch. Pele has the greatest legacy tho, more than messi/maradona.

@@SuperBowlcountdown1 Players should be judged based on what they achieved in their own era. That's why Pele is the greatest, not cause he'd still be good enough nowadays.

This is what i hate its close otherwise there wouldn't be a debate

Emmanuel Gazal you are right but there are some ronaldo fans who actually think ronaldo is better which annoys me.

@@LM-wd3ly I think most Ronaldo fans like him more because of his lifestyle, not his football. Maybe that's why he has more followers on social media too.

@@sadhuman7660 makes no sense

Messi is better but not in every aspect of the game, there are certain fields where Ronaldo shines more than Messi

Even in that category, Messi is excellent at setting up the ball for a teammate to score a goal and many of them do.

even for winning now that he won copa and finalisima you could argue for messi imo messi is clearer of ronaldo than jordan of lebron that shouldnt be an insult to anyone but pls dont ever try to put anyone close to messi

@@Michiiigring I genuinely don't understand how people still think it's a comparison

@@Michiiigring no offense to messi but if finalisima existed before ronaldo would have also won it against chile

@@enio3698 he lost to chile in fifa federation cup

No, no I dont agree with you An Asian kid like in Vietnam , my country is not better than anyone since they are educated in communist country

@@thuypham-kt2or just a joke brother

@@thuypham-kt2or ruh bro calm down Just a joke

Haha great joke.. Messi is better than ronaldo 🤣what a joke..

@@maaamosiyarabot8003 keep crying facts are infront of you

You are right

Nicee

Also won the copa

Messi takes like more than double the amount of freekick attempts each season than ronaldo. Theres no surprise he has more

@@Rs-bs1rg haven't you seen the statistics? He has almost double conversion rate than Ronaldo 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@wa57s577 cry more

It's 4-0 now. Crazy times we live in

@@wa57s577 its actually biased for cr7. he didnt checked if the trophies werde deserved and which part the player took in winning them. the euros 2016 was a joke i would consider not counting that at all and at least 2 balon dors for cr7 were not deserved. and dont forget the video doesnt weight the individual skill of the players very high. ronaldo is actually worse at everything but headers and penalties. if you look back in history you can easily find at least 5 strikers that were just better than him at most stuff but didnt had modern medical treatment or knowledge and still have better eyetest and stats. ronaldo is very good but if youre being honest not in the top 10 of all time.

We need an updated version of this.

@@dasurmel1424wooo you’re a fucking moron Ronaldo has better stats than any player except for maybe messi

Can we really call it a comparison 😂

Now goat has won the copa 🔥

Me too😂

@@dadwithmilk3740 even a bigger fact muhahaha

Having a pair of eyes helps

Same 😂😂😂

🙌🙌

@@GoodlyRogue Your video is very good and objective, yet at the same time it's garbage. When looking at statistics, how can you not take into account the era in which someone competed, rules, teammates, opposition, playing conditions (pitches, boots, ball), position he played in etc. How can you even compare a midfielder like Maradona with forwards ?!??? It was a million times harder to score in his era.

@@michaeltrumph121 I understand your point. Last season, a 33 years old messi played as a midfielder for the first time of his career, he scored 31 goals! Being an attacking midflielder, Maradona’s career high is 23 goals, he simply never was, statistically, as good as Messi! As for assists, for a career, it’s closer but messi still has 100 more… Also, as you pointed out, the average goals per game changed since Maradona best goalscoring season. Only by 15% though. So, if we would adjust Maradona's career high to today's goalscoring frenzies, he would have "26.45" goals in his best season? The average sport changed a lot in the last 40 years, but football isn't the best example. Maradona simply did not play his career the way he played the 86 World Cup! Thanks for your comment!

@@GoodlyRogue _I understand your point_ Your reply doesn't depict that. You still haven't taken into account many of those things I said. Stats comparisons are only valid when you compare players that played in the same era, same league, same playing position, with roughly the same talent to help them and roughly the same opposition. *1.* Maradona played in a much more brutal era, where defenders could break legs. *2.* Maradona played in a much more competitive league, and not for the best team. Napoli was battling relegation before he came along and made them champions. To put things into perspective, it's like Messi playing for Elche and beating the likes of Barca, Real and Athletico for the title. *3.* Messi's teammates at Barcelona have always been a million times better than Maradona's at Napoli. We now live in the era of superteams, a privileged few top teams that buy up the best talent out there. *4.* In the second half of the 80s Serie A, a win was only worth 2 points. That clearly diminished the incentive for a team to go for a win. *5.* Football was way more defensive back then, it was harder to score. Just look at the top goalscorers for a season in 80s Serie A: 80-81, Roberto Pruzzo with 18 goals. 81-82, Roberto Pruzzo with 15 goals. 82-83, Platini with 16 goals. 83-84 , Platini with 20 goals. 84-85, Platini with 18 goals. 85-86, Roberto Pruzzo with 19 goals. 86-87, Paolo Virdis with 17 goals . 87-88, Maradona with 15 goals. 88-89, Also Serena with 22 goals. *The lowest was 15 for a season. Can you imagine anyone nowadays winning the top scorer award with just 15 goals ?!!!!!* Now compare that to 2010's La Liga: 2010-11, CR7 with 40 goals. 2011-12, Messi with 50 goals. 2012-13, Messi with 46 goals. 2013-14, CR7 with 31 goals. 2014-15, CR7 with 48 goals. 2015-16, Luis Suárez with 40 goals. 2016-17, Messi with 37 goals. 2017-18, Messi with 34 goals. 2018-19, Messi with 36 goals. 2019-20, Messi with 25 goals. *6.* Go play on a bumpy and often muddy and uneven pitch, with heavy boots, balls, against butchers and then come back to me. You will realize that scoring, dribbling, passing is way harder. _As for assists, for a career, it’s closer but messi still has 100 more_ Messi has also played way more games, 984 compared to Maradona's 695. And again, for a much better team, with far better teammates, in an offense oriented era, with better playing conditions, nutrition, training etc. Assist depend a big deal on teammates. You can provide countless perfect passes per game, if your teammates are poor, they won't convert them. _Also, as you pointed out, the average goals per game changed since Maradona best goalscoring season. Only by 15% though. So, if we would adjust Maradona's career high to today's goalscoring frenzies, he would have "26.45" goals in his best season?_ Yes, he might have around 26, but that's if he plays for Napoli. Put him in Barcelona, in a more advanced position, with Xavi and Iniesta behind him to feed him passes, with the protection from the refs they have now - and the story changes completely. _The average sport changed a lot in the last 40 years, but football isn't the best example. Maradona simply did not play his career the way he played the 86 World Cup! Thanks for your comment!_ *Completely agree with you, but players should be judged based on what they achieve in their own era, not by comparing stats with players from other eras.* *Maradona proved himself at international level, by leading an average Argentina to the World Cup, Messi has not. And please don't mention 2014, cause Messi didn't do anything after the group stage, where he barely scored against weak teams* *Maradona turned an poor Napoli team into champions. Messi has has an all star Barca at his disposal* *Maradona could adapt to any league, team, playing system. Messi has never ventured outside Barcelona* *Maradona was a born leader that captained every team he played for, and could even make dogs play better. Messi is shy and introvert* *Maradona could handle pressure, Messi has crumbled countless times under it*

@@michaeltrumph121 Wow! I'm stunned by your research. You've done an amazing job. I agree with (almost) everything you said. Sadly, the longer part of my response will be about our differences, which are minimal in the grand scheme of things. Firstly, has football gotten less physical? Statistics on broken legs aren't that common. 😂 But, surprisingly, we are in the peak of football injuries. Only today, more penalties are being called. Secondly, looking at the differences in goalscoring. I maintain the fact that players score 15% more goals. It's just that Messi and Ronaldo (and possibly Suarez) created a distortion. We cannot take goalscorers like these guys for granted. They don't come in every decade. Besides, if we look beyond them, we end up with names like Falcao, Aspas, Negredo, Moreno, etc. Thereby, the 15% increase ends up making sense. Thirdly, it's true that we live in the superteam era, but with all due respect to Xavi and Iniesta, they have respectively assisted 5 and 9 of Messi's 91 goals season. Messi is known for creating his own shots (similar to Maradona). FiveThirtyEight also showed that Messi is more clinical when he's unassisted. fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/ Furthermore, even if Laliga is not the Champions League, his GPG average in Laliga is indistinguishable from his in the Champions League. (0.81 in both) The only thing that irritates me about your comment, which is also specifically why I've made that video is the emotional takes (in Messi just like Ronaldo's part). Football is the only sport where people argue with lines like « he could handle pressure better », « he was tougher mentally » or « he was more determined ». Why is it like that? All of the other sports' arguments are almost strictly statiscally based. You can't put a number on « willpower », « determination », « mental strength », « pressure handling », etc. Moreover, pressure isn't different in basketball, hockey, american football and baseball. Why do we keep saying that in football? Anybody who's ever played a sport a a high level knows that there isn't such things, because if there were, you wouln't have made out of the little leagues. In any case, thanks for your comment again! 😊

The only reason to pick Ronaldo is emotional now. Messi is the goat and it's not close

agreed bro.. the best final and Leo Messi no 1 G.O.A.T 😀

And now Messi won the Copa America, Finalissima and World cup, GOAT things 🐐

Messi's peak was 2012, of course in goalscoring...11,15,19 all were great years for him.

even not in his prime Messi still dominates individually

@@minhtringuyen3835 yup like this year

Ronaldo will probably have the longer career. It might be too soon to have this debate.

@@gabrielgonzalez6456 Don't think people will care or media will boost this rivalry if Messi wins Balon d or this year. Media will focus on younger talents like Haaland and Mbappe and set up new things which attracts fanboys.

Don't worry your great grand children will see one greater than Messi.

@@Cesar-zl3de I doubt that..Messi stats, accomplishments, accolades, dribbling, passing IQ, Shooting IQ is level that won't be reached..I give a 1% chance..maybe not even that

@@temurikakachiya5094 too bad they didn’t see ronaldo

You grandpa didn’t really understand this sport.’ He saw pele and maradona and his favorite player was zidane? Common that just ridiculous, i never got to see pele but i seen maradona and he was the best player of all time better than pele cr7 and messi and obviously way better than zidane.’ Cr7 is the best striker along with ronaldo the brasilian player

@@carmelomalacalza8981 I don't know if you're slow,but I said his favorite, not who he thought was the best ever.. Messi and cr7 are by far the best two players of all time Brazilian Ronaldo was half the time injured..I could care less about what ifs..I see the level of talent, consistency and don't even let me talk about the stats please.. In my eyes maradona was better than pele as well.

i love both messi and ronaldo i watch every game when they play and i must say you are right if you want to start this compare topic messi is just better i will cry in tears the day he retires

And messi just won the ballon dor

We have to keep in mind that football is at the end of the day a team sport that requires a lot of different positions and skillsets to come together in order to function and win titles. Therefore the greatest players are in my opinion those that contribute the most to the team "working" and elevating their teammates. In that regard I have never seen a more prolific finisher be such a teamplayer in the way messi is. His contribution to the offensive game of his teams is off the charts incredible.

Ronaldo simply is the better player. One big difference between the two that barely gets mentioned is that for much of his career Barcelona built their entire team around Messi. He was the one big center piece of their offense, which greatly helped Messi's stats, but whenever Messi was injured or an opponent managed to shut Messi down, Barcelona struggled heavily, because their entire system revolved around Messi. Without Messi the team often looked pretty dysfunctional, even though their roster was loaded with skill and talent, just like Real Madrid's. Real on the other hand did not allow themselves to become as dependent on one single player. Ronaldo was by far their best player, but they did not build their entire system around him, like Barca did with Messi.

@@maximilianmaier3950 To be a big center piece at 17-20 y. o. is a thing that only THE GOAT is capable. You are sure that you or me could be starters in that great Barcelona? Whatever, you sees the Barcelona of last years?

not at all

No, you need to explain for both, in the United days ronaldo was more of everything he said in the video, that’d why he didn’t score that much. Not to forget how Ronaldo was robbed or a 6th balon d or.

@@ehanbhairakdar and how 2013 ballon d'or of Ronaldo was a scandal

@@ehanbhairakdar he wasn't robbed. It didn't belong to him in the first place. Just because he won the champions league doesn't make him the winner automatically. In that season, messi won laliga, copa del rey, and spanish super cup. He was also the leading goalscorer in all europe, provided the most assists, most key passes, most crosses and most chances created, only to be ranked 5th. Winning the UCL doesn't make you best. Ask virgil.

@@dadwithmilk3740 Frank ribbery should have won it.

U a ronaldo fan.. Cool Story.

I'm just like both they're are great player but I'm messi fan no hate to Ronaldo instead I like his mentality

You are a messi fan you liar💯🤣🤣

Bro u are a true fan... I find very less people like me 🤘🏻🤘🏻

And debate over pele is much better than maradona

Here no more debate 😁

And cr7 better 😁

​@@eldahoti9631better at warming the bench

Cooln nuh Mon 😎 one Messi

And what's the point for you to put this Cruyff sentence here? Meaning what? That CR7 is only a great goal scorer and not a great football player?

@@pedrovitorut no but messi is the better football player no doubt

@@ilikedeadlift2739 i can agree he’s better but he is not greater. There are still more factors of being “greater” rather than “better”

@@tyleristhemc like ? Scoring penalties ?

@@pedrovitorut exactly. He is only great goalscorer and nothing more

HAHAHHA that was good one, bro)))

For people who actually watch football it's like seeing a body decay and pouring even more soil into their graves

I think pretty much everyone apart from delusional Ronaldo fans

it's the hint which refers to ronaldo you pessi fans

@@babutukku6303 you don't have brain ,good enough to understand whom the youtuber mentioned in his video , just stfu

Still Ronaldo wins in the most important thing, better throphies

Lucas Cafuzquez el verdadero goat Still Messi is the best, better individual gameplay. And just so you know, Messi has more trophies

what

Sus

Messi is simply incomparable

@Desantonie Smith its a girl

Just turns you on? 😂

this is why ronaldo is the goat

lol wtf

😁😁😁

😂😂

People said that when Pele was playing

No way Wel ever see another messi

Messi is easily the greatest ever but we will see someone better, maybe it will take 100-200 years but it will happen

History always finds a way to repeat itself

@@Nothing-lr3dt The way football develops into an extremely tactical and numbers game we won't get the chance to see someone be greater than Messi. Nobody will be given that much liberty again

Once he wins number 7, the argument is officially dead

@@c.s1393 it was 5-3 earlier too with a 2 lead on messi argument was dead but then Ronaldo suddenly won 2 back to back and leveled it but yeah now with messi winning copa and Ronaldo age catching up I doubt that he will be able to level

@@user-jn9rj7km9o But if Ronaldo goes to city and wins a treble...

@@c.s1393 daaaaaamn

Ronaldo has a Euros and uefa nations league🤔

Its messhit my friend

Pele and messi both suck 🤣

@@imransutar7448 🤣🤣 brainwashed

@@sarojkantabehera6357 It's LM7 soon.

@@imransutar7448 yo wtf

Facts. Messi is now getting compared to Maradona & Pele now🤣😂

​@@cripbk2147Messi started being compared to them like 12 years ago.

That's crazy Messi always consistent every year. He's eternal. But the most ridiculous things is lukaku and salah greatest achievement is average for messi and he can do it in his worst season. Now wonder why cruyff admire messi so much

Yes after the worst performance with 29 goals stats in which 24 comes out against really weaker teams and just with one cup for his team he's gonna win that ballon dor seriously it's just pathetic.

@@aaryankohli5600 idk if you're being sarcastic or not 🤣🤣🤣

@@aaryankohli5600 lol i love how you’re yourself so used to see messi score +50 that you still call a 29 goals season pathetic, you’re proving his greatness yourself, if not messi in 2021 then who else????? Who else deserves that ballon d’or except for lewa? It’s not even close to being pathetic if he wins it

@@ZephiroXGD jorginho or kante

It is true. But initially they were just emphasizing on int trophy. But messi has under 20 wc, Olympic gold and now a copa america. So where is the argument now?

It's kinda close as Ronaldo had more UCL's and I think it's actually irrelevant to bring the trophies into a topic where you're debating who's the better player. Messi have 6 b'ors and 7

@@HeadshotaZ731 he only has 1 more UCL, but his stats in UCL r crazy but once he retires messi will probably have more

@@HeadshotaZ731 exactly my thought, it doesn't really make sense to evaluate the greatness of a player by the trophies he's won in a team sport

@@arroe8386 yea xd

Pele is GOAT

@Alan Tittus Laugh all you want, that's a FACT.

@Alan Tittus In official games, 757 goals. And in games against top European teams, 208 goals in 201 matches. That's a total of 965 goals in proper matches. And around 300 in friendlies, but those don't matter. I don't know about assists, don't think we have stats on those. But goals and assists don't matter, that's not what makes you GOAT, achievements do. Pele has won 3 World Cups to Messi's NONE.

@@michaeltrumph121 and Messi's 6 balloon dor( 7th on the way) compared to pele's nil( lol)

@@surajitdas6388 Clueless kid, Pele was not eligible to compete for the Ballon D'Or. Until the early 90s, only players born in Europe could compete for the Ballon D'or. Had he been allowed to compete, Pele would have won 7: www.sportbible.com/football/legends-pele-actually-won-more-ballon-dors-than-messi-and-ronaldo-20201228 And Messi did not deserve all 6 he's got. In 2010, Sneijder should have won it.

Wow! Thank you so much!

no jokes bro. well put together and perfect

Its based off a video comparing Jordan and LeBron in basketball that is of similar quality.

@@GoodlyRogue who can paolo maldini win 6 UCL while his transfermarkt show only 5??????

Really,? He doesn’t even mention the header game of Ronaldo, who is the best header of all time and makes a much more complete player than Messi.

Ronaldo has the most greatest goals ever. I literally got bored while watching a messi highlight video but for Ronaldo its like he makes everyone he's playing against look like plumbers bro got that MJ effect. He also has the greatest clutch goals ever and heaps of them

@@PengaYT u surely have taken a vaccine against seeing beauty at things. if u got bored while watching messi's highlights i feel sorry for u.

@@PengaYT lying aint no way

@@PengaYT Bro ain't no way seeing Messi dribble 10 players is boring💀

Headers

Ronaldo is more gifted, Messi dribbling is not flashy but efficient. That sets him apart. Ronaldinho is the best at his peak of all time. Cr7 has just as much impact on the outcome of any given game as Messi

@@edd2649 dude have you watched the video? Ronaldo literally doesn't have the same impact on the team as messi. Ronaldinho is my favourite player ever but his peak was nowhere near as great as messi or ronaldo's. The statistics that messi has in almost all aspects of offensive football skill is incomparable. We have never seen a player as efficient as he is and that's just facts. He doesn't have to be your idol or your favourite player but his greatness is undeniable.

Wow! Thank you!

@@GoodlyRogue you deserve more subscribers man!

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtJjoLVnytWpkWw.html he used this as reference. Still good points but he could have given the original some props.

We need an updated video. Pls upload an update.

@@GoodlyRogue bro great vid and I'm so happy I came across it!

Messi has been better ever since he existed lol and I think everyone is pretty clear on that and knows it. Some people just would never admit it because they're hardcore fans and to them logic or reality doesn't matter. It's just an emotional thing for them. Everyone knows there has never been a logical debate at all.

I appreciate that! Thank you!

Who made this video?

Now Messi has won Copa America as well!!

Yes but i gotta say, the video doesnt mention the assists. Maradona played 490 games and scored 260 goals and 220 assissts. Messi in 900(ish) games he scored 740(ish)goals and 350 assissts. Messi is the GOAT for me but totally misses out on maradona, sorry man

@@akcsamiru i agree on that that was my thought too, messi is better than diego but that's not the right way to prove it

Seriously it is christiano Ronaldo

Exactly man. Ronaldo is mostly a goal scorer the last 5-7 years who waits on the box, and even back then he was a goalscorer only who also made runs. There was not much dribbling involved or playmaking. Messi delivers the whole package. And also he is more efficient of a scorer as well. Only a matter of time till messi outscored cristiano.

@@giannisms1861you crazy boy, go watch golf instead of football

Also you

Ronaldo selfish ahaha wtf

He is a joy to watch

These comments are crazy, Ronaldo not bad… no way you said that

Thank you!

I hope so! Thank you🤞

I believe argentina will win the WC

and has 7 ballon d'ors not 6

@@foa0695guess what they did

m here after messi winning worldcup 2022…

Bro are u kidding I wanna see Messi do the thing Ronaldo did

@@alejandrosuarez1838 Ok then can ronaldo score a free kick?

@@jagunjr0118 ye

Ok then Speed - Ronaldo Control - Messi Vision - Messi Playmaking - Messi Finishing - Messi Dribbling - Messi Skills - Ronaldo More Versatile - Messi Free-Kicks - Messi Penalties - Ronaldo Headers - Ronaldo Weak Foot - Ronaldo Creativity - Messi Passing - Messi Strength - Ronaldo These aren't statistics but these are things i noticed throughout their respective careers and you can't disagree with the things I said and if you correct me pls reply.

@@Sachaboey9393 LOL, you mean penalties and tap ins? Such variety. Yeah he can score with both legs, head, that's nice, but that isn't creativity. Messi is the definition of creativity on the pitch with his playmaking abilities, creating chances where there are none.

Thank you!

yep that would have been great to mention at the end. I personally admire Ronaldo for his outstanding performances but I just cannot force myself to like him because of his lack of sportmanship in several occasions.

@@leomouhsin I'm exactly in the same place. He simply displays way too many pathetic behaviours time after time. I just can't respect him. I respect his football feats, but he's far from the exemplary professional the media and he himself tries to sell you.

Pls add the major. Not the 1st int trophy.

Yes

Bro I too Messi fan.. but don't degrade Cr7 both are legends but Messi have more edge on other... At ever it may be we Messi fans always respect the other players.. Am I right..

@@shanmugaallam2874 Shut up he's right. Ronaldo is not even half of Messi.

@@shanmugaallam2874 not degrading ronaldo he’s incredible but people putting him on a level with messi is more impressive than any of his actual sporting achievements, messi is just that good

@@shoio11 now ur just a salty messi fan

The most EXACT WORD EVER

you are right, I forbade myself from going in too much details into Maradona's statistics. I feel like he cannot be judged by stats. In Europe, Maradona's best goalscoring season is 23 goals. On the other hand, both Messi and Ronaldo have scored 50 goals or more 6 times. They also cumulate a couple of 40s and 30s. I wouldn't want to go in on Maradona's statistics as I feel it would be perceived as disrespectful. The same goes for Ronaldinho. As great as people portray him, in his best goalscoring season, he put up 26 goals. Statiscally, other than Pelé, nobody rivals Messi and Ronaldo. Not even the great Maradona.

@@GoodlyRogue could you pls give me the link where you found the vaep stat cause I was looking for it and didn't find it

@@topchannel-qx4me www.researchgate.net/publication/323302738_Actions_Speak_Louder_Than_Goals_Valuing_Player_Actions_in_Soccer

@@GoodlyRogue thanks a lot i hope stats like those will exist in the near future it would be a game changer and you made a mistake those are not for the 2017/18 season it was for the 2016/17 season

@@topchannel-qx4me sorry, I've sent you the wrong link... Here's the study from KU Leuven: lirias.kuleuven.be/retrieve/543010/ Anyways, you're right, it'll be a massive game changer in the future

Thanks!

@@GoodlyRogue wow u read whole comment

Best showman? He's one of the most boring players to watch. Just because one is the best in some things, doesn't mean the other has to be the best too. The media started this whole Messi-Ronaldo rivalry, the truth is one has always been miles better than the other. One is the greatest player of all time, the other is, well was, just a great striker. That's it. They shouldn't have been compared at all. Ronaldo isn't the best at anything

@@lukerne9260 who are you ronaldo is best footballr in football history reason hecan handle pressure situation than messi

@@muhammedshine9674 have you watched the video it's proved messi is the goat.

Sorry bro but #cr7 is not the best showman... as we have the likes of Neymar, Ronaldinho, Maradona__ pure fact .... I also think Messi is a better showman than cr7. ( just opinion)

@@biniyamin2970 Cr7 isn't the best at anything, not even goal scoring which is what everyone praise him for. Maybe he's the best at being arrogant, or the best at being delusional, thinking he's better than Messi.