Messi vs Ronaldo - The End

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Messi vs Ronaldo - The End
Messi vs Ronaldo - The End
Messi vs Ronaldo - The End

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@NguyenHoang-ke7dx
@NguyenHoang-ke7dx Жыл бұрын
The thing with Messi is that he doesn't talk shit, he doesn't complain about his club, he doesn't makes these kind of dramas that Ronaldo did, he just keeps his chin down and keeps contributing to whatever club he's at and that's why people respected him more as a football player
@slavick9143
@slavick9143 Жыл бұрын
he did make drama and complain about barcelona
@osiris7945
@osiris7945 Жыл бұрын
@@slavick9143 please list it here
@jhanschannel4390
@jhanschannel4390 Жыл бұрын
@@slavick9143 please specify it here.. Messi never attack other player like what ronaldo did..
@UnknownUser6969_controversies
@UnknownUser6969_controversies Жыл бұрын
Average fatherless pessidog💀 Messi and Ronaldo both are great football players.
@hungtienbuio8093
@hungtienbuio8093 Жыл бұрын
@@slavick9143 not like making an interview to take it personally toward his coach or his ex-teammate (saying Roney is bad looking guy) If one person hates u then it might be not your fault but being hated at both Juve and M.U fans then for sure he is the problem.
@iamnoahh
@iamnoahh Жыл бұрын
I'm a Ronaldo fan but when Messi won the WC I was very happy for him. These 2 are the players that emboss our generation and it's beautiful that at least one of them achieved this major win. We should appreciate both. It's very sad how Ronaldo's career is ending, but it'll be more when both completely stop.
@lanalan4157
@lanalan4157 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo sucks deep to the very core though
@jonathanprudencio2505
@jonathanprudencio2505 Жыл бұрын
Lets be fair. The euro that Cr7 won was special too. Before Cr7 Portugal had 0 international wins. So big respect for Cr7
@AGAMSENPAI
@AGAMSENPAI Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanprudencio2505 true bro I'm a Messi fan but huge respect for Ronaldo ❤️he Jaan example to follow
@LawAbidingCriminal111
@LawAbidingCriminal111 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanprudencio2505 lol and what about cops del cup? That argentina won?
@LawAbidingCriminal111
@LawAbidingCriminal111 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo was a sub while they won that euro cup
@tlawal7
@tlawal7 Жыл бұрын
I'm a united fan who thinks Messi is greater than Ronaldo, but I have great respect for both. Seeing Ronaldo play for United was, and is, something special and his downturn is very sad to see. Thank you for your partiality this video.
@danielkornja6120
@danielkornja6120 Жыл бұрын
As a United Fan, Messi is My GOAT and The GOAT, However I would do Anything to see 08/09 CR7 one more time. That man made my Childhood.
@tusharagarwal6155
@tusharagarwal6155 Жыл бұрын
As a Barca fan Ronaldo is my inspiration and my GOAT
@koustabborah4959
@koustabborah4959 Жыл бұрын
@@tusharagarwal6155 make it less obvious 🤣
@tusharagarwal6155
@tusharagarwal6155 Жыл бұрын
@@koustabborah4959 exactly my point 🙂
@Jesuschrist12658
@Jesuschrist12658 Жыл бұрын
@@tusharagarwal6155 As a Real Madrid fan, my top 3 all time are messi>pele>Maradona. Seeee!!!
@danielkhhh
@danielkhhh Жыл бұрын
No disrespect but there is no debate when it comes to who is a better footballer, Messi will always be first just when you think what he gives to the game BESIDES the goals. He can run a game, be a playmaker, something Ronaldo can't do. But that doesn't take away from Ronaldo's greatness. Forever a legend
@ArianusOnTop
@ArianusOnTop Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo can’t playmake or run a game? I’m assuming you mean 2022 Ronaldo can’t playmake and in that case I agree but is dishonest of you (Messi has had more chance creation and assists but with comparatively better players than Ronaldo) and running a game is a silly and unfair comparison, especially considering the fact Messi currently plays a CAM role designed for him to playmake and create and Ronaldo is basically a poacher since 2015. Two different positions that generate different stats. Cumulatively, Messi does clear Ronaldo in both the stats casuals use and in advanced stats. Messi also wins in accolades and in the eye test. However, Ronaldo has the longevity, clutch, and adaptability. All of those informal criteria are indispensable for any greatest of all time debate
@ilymagic3517
@ilymagic3517 Жыл бұрын
Bro I agree with u but this is why this stuff gets toxic becuase ur saying this stuff for no reason just respect both
@loyaltye2e375
@loyaltye2e375 Жыл бұрын
Imo Messi is the better player, But Ronaldo is the greatest of all time. Like interms of football ability Messi takes it but Ronaldo is the greatest oat.
@everythingsfine1395
@everythingsfine1395 Жыл бұрын
@@ArianusOnTop Ronaldo was a main striker in 2016 UP to now , In madrid at that time the transition from defending to attacking was mainly played by modric and kruz , they could build up fast counter with their accurate long passes , Ronaldo wasn’t that creative at that time but he finished the half chances was getting,
@everythingsfine1395
@everythingsfine1395 Жыл бұрын
@@loyaltye2e375 Wtf
@dennisxvii396
@dennisxvii396 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think people have a problem with him being old still playing. I think that peoples only problem with him is that he’s refusing to accept that he isn’t as good as he was and refuses to believe he is slowing down. I feel like if you ask Cr7 who is the best player in the world right now he would probably say himself
@lino501st
@lino501st Жыл бұрын
In a interview he said in his head he is the best
@sky3down367
@sky3down367 Жыл бұрын
@@lino501st we get that but that mentality only works when you prove it, its a great way to think but if you dont start to perform well (now he is horrible no offense) that will most likely work you more mentally sense you will start having doubts, that mentality is not needed anymore when you start getting older
@dennisxvii396
@dennisxvii396 Жыл бұрын
@@lino501st of course he did
@bry8636
@bry8636 Жыл бұрын
@Ace222 you don’t understand Zlatan His arrogance is tongue n cheek. He doesn’t take himself that seriously. Watch a candid interview with him, he says as much in multiple interviews. Another difference between Zlatan and Ronaldo is that it’s confidence versus arrogance. Ronaldo demeans Messi on multiple occasions m. And he does so to build himself up. Whereas Zlatan will give credit and even point out players that are or were better then he. Which is something Ronaldo would never do.
@yakakiyakaki
@yakakiyakaki Жыл бұрын
@@bry8636 you summed Zlatan up perfectly!
@Dinoo1234
@Dinoo1234 Жыл бұрын
Just apperciate both. I don't like people who say Penaldo and Pessi. They both had great careers and these are their final years of playing
@kfrotz6734
@kfrotz6734 Жыл бұрын
Who is penaldo,who is pessi I only know spurs-destroyer and eibarman
@justpassing5994
@justpassing5994 Жыл бұрын
Just walk the other way whenever you see someone actually type "penaldo" or "pessi" in clear conscience thinking they actually made some kind of point .. You know they have some screws loose..
@R0ckstarRJ
@R0ckstarRJ Жыл бұрын
And messi is the best ever and neymar is a clown lol
@R0ckstarRJ
@R0ckstarRJ Жыл бұрын
@@kfrotz6734messi has more goals v Real Madrid than eibar lol
@kfrotz6734
@kfrotz6734 Жыл бұрын
@@R0ckstarRJ who is Messi?????
@sharjesm
@sharjesm Жыл бұрын
The thing with Ronaldo is that the criticism comes up because of his own behavior and words. They are both legends. Ronaldo is defo top 5 of all time. Messi, IMO, is first based on eye test/skill, longevity, achievements (individual and team), and stats.
@Losmerengues1902
@Losmerengues1902 Жыл бұрын
Top 5 😂
@el.aye.bee.4477
@el.aye.bee.4477 Жыл бұрын
I can name at least ten players that are better than Ronaldo. People get carried away with team achievements and Ballon D'ors...but if you evaluate individual skill, cr7 is very limited compared to many players.
@germanpenn
@germanpenn Жыл бұрын
If we talk about peak talent, I agree that there are at least a handful of players above CR7, but if we consider his career as a whole (longevity, accolades, stats), I think he's top 5.
@usersixnine347
@usersixnine347 Жыл бұрын
Holy hell the disrespect from this comment and it’s replies. I am a Messi fan and Messi is the goat. But Ronaldo is 2nd. “Not top 5.” Not “10 players better than him” Ronaldo is 2nd behind Messi. The disrespect and hate is actually unreal
@el.aye.bee.4477
@el.aye.bee.4477 Жыл бұрын
@@germanpennIt's more than just a handful, don't get it twisted, dude. cristiano ronaldo, just like lebron james and the dallas cowboys, has carefully crafted and marketed his career to be more than it actually is. He went to a manchester united team that was, at the time, the best team in the English League and loaded with talent. Talent He left that team to join arguably the most successful team in Spanish Football history and the most successful team in European club football. He was surrounded by super talent that laid out all of his scoring opportunities on a platter for him and all he had to do was score goals, the vast majority of which were easy tap-ins. He then left that team to join the most successful team in the history of Italian football and one of the biggest and most historic teams in European club history. He joined a Juventus team, which, at the time, was just teetering on the brink of breaking through to another Champions League title. He was supposed to be the final piece that was to take Juventus to their third Champions League title. That fell flat on its face and, as it turned out, the signs of his downturn were starting to show but were mostly ignored by fans and media alike. People love to talk about how much Neymar dives but everybody seems to have conveniently forgotten how much cr7 used to dive. He built his career at manu diving for penalties. He continued his diving at Real Madrid and it's only been the past five or six years of his career that he's slowed that down. He has marketed himself all this time as being Messi's equal, simply because he has scored lots of goals and the media has fallen for it and run with it and people have awarded him several Ballon D'ors, quite a few of which he did not really deserve more than Messi did...outside of the 18 yard box, cristiano ronaldo is not very useful as a player. He does not have the skill to take on defenders and create for himself or for others, like Messi, Modric, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Neymar, Cruyff, Platini, Pirlo, Xavi, Iniesta, Pele, Maradona, etc., could. He will give you a few crossovers on a counterattack and some useless backheel flick of the ball, but he is not a creator. It's the same way that everybody is hyping up Mbappe to be "the best player in the world" right now, but we all just saw this past weekend what happens when you give him the reins at PSG and Messi and Neymar are not there to do all the heavy lifting in the creative department. You put cristiano ronaldo at any point in his career in a position to be the creative linchpin on his team and he cannot do it. He has been a prolific goalscorer throughout his career. Nothing more. I fear Harry Kane with the ball at his feet and in his own defensive third than I fear cr7 with the ball at his feet in the middle of the field. Harry Kane will make a pass to a teammate making a run that will destroy any defense on its heels. cr7 is going to pass the ball to someone more talented and more creative than he is and make a beeline for the box.
@harryhaimoud726
@harryhaimoud726 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Messi fan and that doesn’t mean that it define me as a person . I love his personality his humbling character his style the way he act …. Cristiano is undoubtedly a legend of this game but for me he always was and still arrogant and there is something about him that I can’t connect with , I see jealousy bigotry … in him . And I never understood how can any great player be ever compared with Messi let alone Cristiano Ronaldo, honestly Cristiano can’t even dribble like Messi or pass like him or score like him nothing there to be compared . Cristiano Lied so many times (he said that he will not leave Man United to Real Madrid , he said that he always respect his teammates and he’s a professional yet he doesn’t show off when he knows that he will not be a starter, even when he completed his last move to Al Nasser he continues the lies and ego by saying that important clubs in Europe still want him even tho everyone knows that all big clubs rejected him ……. I understand that I’m always subjected to relativity but I’m pretty sure that Cristiano is not a humble down to earth person and he never played for the team all he cared about was himself and he never celebrated a teammate goal meaningfully 😢
@victoronyekachi5524
@victoronyekachi5524 Жыл бұрын
I agree with u
@Glow_Board
@Glow_Board Жыл бұрын
Same i can also relate with this
@eleven2611
@eleven2611 Жыл бұрын
Actually this mentality helped ronldo for so long ("" he is focused "" ) if u see his interview a decade ago u can see him claiming to be the best even at that a age. . But if u ask me who is the best player of all the it is messi because if u remove every goal messi scored he still have 306 assist which will place him among the best in this generation without any goals
@yohanesa7728
@yohanesa7728 Жыл бұрын
Omg….. you’re absolutely right and I feel like whatever you said was what was on my mind for years and years. Trust me I luv Ronaldo and the fact that he’s been making the La Liga pretty entertaining since he was fighting for trophies ma personal achievements. However, for me an achievement of any athlete or celebrity should be together with humbleness not arrogance. Thx for your comment and I luv reading it all!
@franklynonyia1449
@franklynonyia1449 Жыл бұрын
He also said he wouldn't play in qatar and leagues like Saudi Arabia, look where he is now
@juanosorio3278
@juanosorio3278 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see the day that Ronaldo and Messi’s Era would come to an end:( its a sad time
@anshul5705
@anshul5705 Жыл бұрын
Messi's era is still there
@nazmelmal3801
@nazmelmal3801 Жыл бұрын
messi is still the biggest candidate for Ballon d'Or
@niladriop
@niladriop Жыл бұрын
@@anshul5705 yes he is but how many yrs max to max 3yrs
@anshul5705
@anshul5705 Жыл бұрын
@@niladriop But still he's dominating. And he will retire with dignity giving happiness to his fans
@RealProLegend10
@RealProLegend10 Жыл бұрын
@@anshul5705 yes
@d1.KT1
@d1.KT1 Жыл бұрын
Both are, at least, top 5 of the greatest of all time. Anyone who says anything else don’t know football
@Gunnr7
@Gunnr7 Жыл бұрын
Top 2*
@wakanda4eva740
@wakanda4eva740 Жыл бұрын
Top 2 easily,he's literally 38 recency bias is mad he was top 2 player itw for the past decade and a half
@MpanzuSolos
@MpanzuSolos Жыл бұрын
@@Gunnr7 nah Pele; Maradona, maybe even cruyff
@MpanzuSolos
@MpanzuSolos Жыл бұрын
@@Gunnr7 messi, Pele, ronaldo, Maradona, cruyff
@hridoyabdullah5133
@hridoyabdullah5133 Жыл бұрын
What the hell you mean by “At least “ .. Messi is hand down the No. 1 . Leo Messi,The Undisputed GOAT 🐐✨
@ahonnaga8854
@ahonnaga8854 Жыл бұрын
Piers Morgan destroyed Cr7's career although Cr7 must also take some blame if he approached Piers first. I don't know who approached who first. The sad thing is Piers did all that for himself. Years ago he said Messi is the best and nobody can change his mind but as soon as he became friends with the extrovert Cr7 and saw financial gains he became a Cr7 fan boy. He couldn't get that relationship with the introvert Messi who doesn't even speak English and therefore nothing to milk.
@mehran7394
@mehran7394 Жыл бұрын
Piers Morgan wasn’t a good choice for Ronaldo he probably thought that he’s did a interview with him previously and it will be a good thing but piers is a bad person who did it for his own gain… I’m sorry for Ronaldo
@gerogyzurkov2259
@gerogyzurkov2259 Жыл бұрын
@@mehran7394 I blame CR7 more of the fact this happened. At least Piers does it proper by having permission granted by CR7 himself. So at least we can say Piers had the respect for CR7 in that regard. I blame CR7 more for letting his own ego let himself wild in his head with the interview with Piers. Him letting Piers screw him around rather than putting his foot down was why the interview ended up like that. Alot of times Ronaldo seemed lost in his ego fest which contributed in his current mess.
@keegan8505
@keegan8505 Жыл бұрын
This is a great take
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
@@mehran7394 but it came at the wrong time
@eleven2611
@eleven2611 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo actually thought after the interview he would get offers from top club which did not happen , he reported ly waited or a call from real madrid but never got
@Thetierlistmaniac
@Thetierlistmaniac Жыл бұрын
I feel like on KZfaq you give one of the most unbiased opinion on football takes
@Vizeh
@Vizeh Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that’s a big compliment!
@Thetierlistmaniac
@Thetierlistmaniac Жыл бұрын
@@Vizeh I am welcome to give you praise since I've seen the grind just 5 months ago the channel wasn't getting too much views but now since the Dele Alli video you've used the momentum to help you grow and see the videos people want to watch while taking in the feedbacks even by just acknowledging a comment liking it or responding
@justinmorrison6279
@justinmorrison6279 Жыл бұрын
@@Thetierlistmaniac i agree mate. top youtuber
@tmo3618
@tmo3618 Жыл бұрын
Even as a Messi fan who regard him as that goat, I respect Ronaldo and admire him as one of the greatest to ever play this beautiful game of football, and I personally have no reason to disrespect him. And one thing I can say for sure is that, whether you are a fan of Messi or Ronaldo, we all can agree that they had the best rivalry of all time.
@rapianopenaldo1669
@rapianopenaldo1669 Жыл бұрын
lmao focus on your work mate, these guys aint giving you nothing for respecting or not respecting them
@tmo3618
@tmo3618 Жыл бұрын
@@rapianopenaldo1669 well, respect is not a thing that you do and expect some kind of return. I guess you should focus on your work mate, you seem to not know what it is to respect others.
@hernanedias554
@hernanedias554 Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to disrespect him intentionally. But Ronaldo fans are something hard to swallow for desonesty...
@erickkbat7797
@erickkbat7797 Жыл бұрын
@@tmo3618 I disagree with the last thing you said. The debate about who is better is actually forced, because messi is better than ronaldo in all aspects. And that is not to devalue Ronaldo's work, but it is that you only have to watch the matches, statistics to realize that Messi is simply better.
@BLCKSMTHApparel
@BLCKSMTHApparel Жыл бұрын
The fall off for proper strikers over the last few years is mad. 2010 WC you had Van Persie, Forlan, Villa, Muller, Higuain, Klose, Suarez, Tevez, Cavani, Drogba, Hernandez, Rooney, Henry, Anelka, Aguero, Eto’o, Torres. Most of those in their prime as well. Barely a handful of world class forwards rn
@lalboimanlun1230
@lalboimanlun1230 Жыл бұрын
Now that you mentioned it
@bullymaguire9100
@bullymaguire9100 Жыл бұрын
Also the classic no 10 role is dying down
@Koluvuma
@Koluvuma Жыл бұрын
Also the reason y I like Messi way more than cr7 is separating the art from the artist. Messi’s personality is more like me , he’s relatable- shy, kind cared, awkward at times, most of all humble probably the most humble celebrity I’ve ever seen. Not saying that Ronaldo is not those things but he’s ego was his drive for 20yrs that idk it almost killed him in a sense. He said in the pries interview that “he doesn’t chase records they chase him”. It was that line that rlly defined y I like Messi more. Think about it. This vid the KZfaqr listed Messi’s accomplishments in 2022 World Cup though Messi only focused on winning it. Also in messi’s 1000 game against Australia I believe he didn’t even know it was 1000 game but i believe Ronaldo would’ve known. That’s my two cents on the matter. I love someone whose phenomenal at their work rate and gifts, anyone no matter if u r famous or an average person , who is also humble .
@TechieTato
@TechieTato Жыл бұрын
We should all just be grateful, we were alive to see such a duo competing at the highest level for so long. We may never see something like this again in our lifetime, so just soak it in and enjoy it!
@Roryc
@Roryc Жыл бұрын
True
@emmasimz5438
@emmasimz5438 Жыл бұрын
👎🏽
@pepejr10king
@pepejr10king Жыл бұрын
The Biggest player of all time is a debate bettwen Messi and Pelé. You can like ronaldo, and you will have your reasons. But Messi and Pelé changed what the game is. Pelé by being the first doing a lot of things in football and Messi for taking it for a whole different level.
@distefanolinonoka3567
@distefanolinonoka3567 Жыл бұрын
You are right for me Pele number 1 and Messi 2 greatest of all time.
@callumcjham4478
@callumcjham4478 Жыл бұрын
It is incredible that we have watched these 2 at the top of their game for over 10 years. I would love to see Ronaldo return to Europe and if Messi went back to Barcelona that would be a perfect ending in my book.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
14 years in top 5. 10 years on very top. 1 and 2..
@randikochaak
@randikochaak Жыл бұрын
man i would love to see a comeback of ronaldo like zlatan did from la and winning the league at a top level.
@julianalvarado4795
@julianalvarado4795 Жыл бұрын
A messi fan like me would agree
@wirtzzz.10
@wirtzzz.10 Жыл бұрын
i’m thinking the same thing but he said his work at europe is finished so idk...
@justindevito6251
@justindevito6251 Жыл бұрын
@@wirtzzz.10maybe go back to Sporting Lisbon and win it, they haven’t won the league in a very long time so that would be fairytale stuff
@wirtzzz.10
@wirtzzz.10 Жыл бұрын
@@justindevito6251 yes great idea
@nikosofidemporas
@nikosofidemporas Жыл бұрын
You mean winning the league on other people's back like Zlatan and still somehow get credit.
@sjakie49
@sjakie49 Жыл бұрын
You can't just say they competed at the same level when they were above everyone else. Even at the top, there is still a significant difference. Truly great players such as Zidane, Cruyff or Messi are able to not only perform well through excellent athletics, but they also have this insane talent to play football creatively, skillfull and intelligently. They have an alien-like vision and capability to read the game and its players in such a way they can influence a game immensely with just a simple pass, lob or whatever crazy balls they can shoot. Ronaldo only perfomed well through excellent athletics and training. He might have had superior athletics compared to Zidane and Messi, but they are better than Ronaldo on so so many other levels. Also it is highly likely Messi will end up with more relevant records than Ronaldo. But in the end, don't read about the qualitative and quantitative arguments. Just watch both players play very closely. Not only with themselves and their goals, but also how they play with their team in correspondence to the overall team strategy/tactics. Then, you'll see the huge difference between Messi and Ronaldo: Messi is an excellent analyst, visionair, orchestrator/playmaker and goal scorer. Ronaldo is just a goal scorer. Students of football will agree.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo is just a goalscorer is the most retarded thing ever. He is a great passer too.
@munchingvitamins1549
@munchingvitamins1549 Жыл бұрын
. cristiano ronaldo, just like lebron james and the dallas cowboys, has carefully crafted and marketed his career to be more than it actually is. He went to a manchester united team that was, at the time, the best team in the English League and loaded with talent. Talent He left that team to join arguably the most successful team in Spanish Football history and the most successful team in European club football. He was surrounded by super talent that laid out all of his scoring opportunities on a platter for him and all he had to do was score goals, the vast majority of which were easy tap-ins. He then left that team to join the most successful team in the history of Italian football and one of the biggest and most historic teams in European club history. He joined a Juventus team, which, at the time, was just teetering on the brink of breaking through to another Champions League title. He was supposed to be the final piece that was to take Juventus to their third Champions League title. That fell flat on its face and, as it turned out, the signs of his downturn were starting to show but were mostly ignored by fans and media alike. People love to talk about how much Neymar dives but everybody seems to have conveniently forgotten how much cr7 used to dive. He built his career at manu diving for penalties. He continued his diving at Real Madrid and it's only been the past five or six years of his career that he's slowed that down. He has marketed himself all this time as being Messi's equal, simply because he has scored lots of goals and the media has fallen for it and run with it and people have awarded him several Ballon D'ors, quite a few of which he did not really deserve more than Messi did...outside of the 18 yard box, cristiano ronaldo is not very useful as a player. He does not have the skill to take on defenders and create for himself or for others, like Messi, Modric, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Neymar, Cruyff, Platini, Pirlo, Xavi, Iniesta, Pele, Maradona, etc., could. He will give you a few crossovers on a counterattack and some useless backheel flick of the ball, but he is not a creator. It's the same way that everybody is hyping up Mbappe to be "the best player in the world" right now, but we all just saw this past weekend what happens when you give him the reins at PSG and Messi and Neymar are not there to do all the heavy lifting in the creative department. You put cristiano ronaldo at any point in his career in a position to be the creative linchpin on his team and he cannot do it. He has been a prolific goalscorer throughout his career. Nothing more.
@harrydifelice7693
@harrydifelice7693 Жыл бұрын
"Ronaldo is just a goalscorer" - Recency bias at it's peak.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
@@munchingvitamins1549 you missed one thing...he didn't go there. People wanted him to come. He was the best player in the world. Manchester United weren't league or champions league champions until Ronaldo came in. Real madrid hadn't won a champions league or laliga title for a very long time when ronaldo joined. Great player will end up in great team eventually at club level. Ronaldo was the best player of his team in every champions league and broke every la liga and champions league goalscoring records. With more than 270 assists. You don't watch matches. You watch Messi's KZfaq video over and over again and nothing else. Ronaldo at 37 had more accurate passes and crosses than the whole united team combined. If they converted half his ez chances he would have atleast 10 assists. ATLEAST! And Messi was in the best team in history for 10 years....and he still went to an oil team with big names and shitty league.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
@@munchingvitamins1549 if you watched PSG games last season... There was a match with Renees or something which PSG was losing when Messi was playing and Neymar and mbappe weren't playing...then mbappe comes in 80th minute, scored a goal and an accurate long pass which resulted in a goal... and they won 2 -1... It's not about a single match. Things don't workout sometimes... But you wouldn't understand that because the only thing you watch is Messi's KZfaq videos over and over again. And get fed up with lies from Messi fans who have never watched a match in their life.
@judahwessel4155
@judahwessel4155 Жыл бұрын
Great point about recency bias. I also think Messi is the best ever, and I thought about putting Pele and Maradona above Ronaldo probably because of that recency bias. We shouldn't forget that he won several Ballon'o'dors even when Messi was playing some of his best football. Almost nobody else has done that, and not multiple times. I totally respect what Ronaldo has achieved as a player. To be fair, Pele is really underrated in my opinion, he was a genius entertainer and invented so many skills decades ahead of when they would be popular and effectively used. He won the world cup three times for crying out loud, first as a teenager! I think he's at least in the fight for 2nd ever. It's just tough for me to root for Ronaldo when it didn't seem like he has to leave Europe. He still has a pretty good first half of a season with united and could have moved to a smaller premier league club or even to France or somewhere else. It just seems that he left for money and not for passion to me. Just look at his contract and tell me that didn't influence his decision. It's a shame because he is a special player and deserves to play with the best still, but I think his ego and his willingness to settle for personal gain won him over, and that's why I struggle to root for him. Thanks for sharing, first time discovering your channel and I really like this open conversation style. Keep it up!
@alexman8800
@alexman8800 Жыл бұрын
I like and respect all the above players you mentioned, but we need to remember that football is a team sport, and it is seldom the WC is won individually although it might be arguable that Maradona single-handedly won WC '86. Pele, Maradona, Messi - all WC winners - would they have won WCs if they were playing for Portugal, Netherlands or Uruguay ? Even Messi almost did not win against France but for the shins of Argentina's goal-keeper Emiliano Martínez in the dying minutes. If Pele was Portuguese, he might be just winning 1 along with Eusebio, and not 3 WCs. In WC 58, 62, 70, Pele was not even the golden ball winner. If we assembled a team of great players past and present - 1 team comprise of WC winners and 1 team comprise of non-WC winners, I think both would give the other a good run for their money. Too much emphasis is on winning the WC to be a great, but Pele once said George Best was the better player.
@alexman8800
@alexman8800 Жыл бұрын
As for Ronaldo leaving Europe, the guy gave a solid 20 years playing in Europe, had looked after his body and health very well, non-drinker, very rarely had any injury issues. 99.99% of players could never give 20 good years as he did, so he is phenomenal. You mentioned some names here like Maradona - off field controversy, drug abuse, last WC at 32, Cryuff - did not want to play in 1978 though I respect his concerns of kidnapping, and other issues the Dutch national team were infamous for the self-destruct button, George Best - ended top flight at 27. I think Ronaldo has earned the right to determine what he wants and more importantly what he does not want at this age of his career as a veteran player aged 37. It is better to remember Ronaldo as the great player as he is, and not judge his Saudi Arabia gig yet. Who knows, he could do to soccer in the Middle-East, as what Pele did to soccer in North America, and inspire a few generations. 20 years solid contribution to World football, what more do people expect ?
@damifash758
@damifash758 Жыл бұрын
@@alexman8800 Ronaldo had a better squad than Messi in this world cup tho So if you give Messi that Portugal And maradone .they can definitely win it I don't know what you're talking about You think Dias..Jao Felix..Bruno..Bernardo..leao etc is a bad squad ?
@ezeola6348
@ezeola6348 Жыл бұрын
@@damifash758 Ronaldo was also 37 and in the worst form of his career. Portugal don't have a strong football culture. Before Ronaldo and Figo they weren't on the map
@damifash758
@damifash758 Жыл бұрын
@@ezeola6348 not the point Point is give maradona that squad and he’ll give you a World Cup The current Portugal squad was better than maradona and Messi World Cup winning team Man for man
@fredericksharon6908
@fredericksharon6908 Жыл бұрын
A Messi Fan but i respect them both, they gave us memories. thank u guys.. you made football worth watching week in and week out.
@jadfares7113
@jadfares7113 Жыл бұрын
Loving the new style of videos Keep it up Viz!
@Vizeh
@Vizeh Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!❤
@OcEleven
@OcEleven Жыл бұрын
I feel like what these past two months have taught me is that, both are in their Twilight of their career and that we should enjoy them while they can. This video is the best video on this topic imo.
@sichelgaito
@sichelgaito Жыл бұрын
Winning the World Cup is a "career twilight" that any player would kill for. Messi may be in the final years of his career, but even taking his relative slowing down in consideration, I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that he's never been better. He has acquired leadership qualities that he didn't have before and nobody even comes close to the way he interacts with a football.
@lalleok8809
@lalleok8809 Жыл бұрын
Debate was over when messi won 6th ballondor, most golden boot and most play maker award
@Robert96902
@Robert96902 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a fan of Messi, but the unending comparisons between the two led me to root against Ronaldo, I always acknowledged how incredible of a player he is but I didn’t want him to overshadow Messi. But now that Ronaldo has played his last world cup and is off to Al Nassr, man i just feel dumb, why did I spend a golden era of football rooting against him. I remembered when Portugal won the 2016 euro and I couldn’t even be happy for him in the moment. A lot of people now taking the chance to clown Ronaldo and disrespecting him, that’s sad
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
But he never had a outstanding tournament with the national team.
@ahmad_editz
@ahmad_editz Жыл бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195euro 2016
@archiesonic9348
@archiesonic9348 Жыл бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195 carried Portugal in euro 2016 most goals in euro 20 even though knocked out in round of 16
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
@@archiesonic9348 was he the player of tournament ?
@rogger972
@rogger972 11 ай бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195 BUT WAS BEST IN THE TEAM . GRUEZMAN WON ONLY CUZ DRACE WAS A BETTER TEAM HE COULD ASSIST BETTER AND SCORE ONLY CUZ OF FRANCE STACKED TEAM
@kmg1211
@kmg1211 Жыл бұрын
What an era! I'm just grateful to have lived through their careers fully, seeing them go toe to toe, doing the impossible. I'm a messi fan, but I'm so grateful to see both him and Ronaldo at their peak
@cod4787
@cod4787 Жыл бұрын
From day 1 it was a crime to compare Ronaldo with MESSI. MESSI is in a different level like never before, The G.O.A.T!
@rakanalajmi6169
@rakanalajmi6169 Жыл бұрын
No man you don’t know ball. Maybe you started watching football in 2022. For the past 15 years, Ronaldo and Messi were always competing against each other at the same level and were levels above any other player. Anyone who knows football knows this.
@seniororchid
@seniororchid Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 They were at the top level together for 15+ years but Messi has always been the better player when you watch them on the pitch. Doesn't matter 2022 or 2009, Messi have been a level above based on his impact on games. Ronaldo is an insane goalscorer but thats it.
@DBrealmadrid9606
@DBrealmadrid9606 Жыл бұрын
@@seniororchid Agreed. Messi is just magical.
@masudbillah6196
@masudbillah6196 Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 They were only competing in terms of goals and stats but if you actually take the eye test and truly see what each player offer their team, Messi is clear. Stats won't show you that. Dude is a goalscorer and a playmaker. He has the more/most goal contributions all most every year.
@meqIess
@meqIess Жыл бұрын
I’m with you
@LDCFITNESS
@LDCFITNESS Жыл бұрын
Im a CR7 fan but I was rooting for Messi in the WC Final.
@Kajol.b
@Kajol.b Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo’s also dealing with a very traumatizing situation because of the death of his baby. It’s important to acknowledge that this could be a factor in his behaviour the past year.
@stephenmassaquoi2814
@stephenmassaquoi2814 Жыл бұрын
That’s not a valid excuse
@Kajol.b
@Kajol.b Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmassaquoi2814 shut up bum he makes more money in an hour than you ever will in your life
@outsideinside9990
@outsideinside9990 Жыл бұрын
You've just earned a new subscriber, great job!
@Vizeh
@Vizeh Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!❤
@surenam9307
@surenam9307 Жыл бұрын
Before the tik tok Era I had loved watching football for what it is and appreciating the pure class of Messi and Ronaldo displayed. Then came the thousands of Tik Tok comparisons between the 2 which made we watch football just to bring up the next Messi achievement in the goat debate (because I'm a Messi fan). After this video I realized that I need to enjoy these concluding moments in these players' careers.
@juannotivoli
@juannotivoli Жыл бұрын
If 5 years ago you tell any football fan that in 2022 Ronaldo goes to Arabia and Messi wins the World Cup. Their most probable answer would be that it must be the other way around. What a turnaround for Leo!
@juannotivoli
@juannotivoli Жыл бұрын
@@internetcitizen3224 5/6 years ago, Messi had announced his retirement from international football and Cristiano had won the last Eurocup with Portugal, also Cris was having a better time in Madrid than Leo in Barcelona. In that moment the current situation would be seen as quite improbable! But all of this adds to Messi's legacy! He has recovered the lost ground and now is clearly ahead.
@juannotivoli
@juannotivoli Жыл бұрын
@@internetcitizen3224 I would say Cristiano is only above in the Champions League, Messi is now clear in every other stat and achievements.
@sagarranjan4585
@sagarranjan4585 Жыл бұрын
Nobody except Ronaldo fanboys would've said that😆😆
@everythingsfine1395
@everythingsfine1395 Жыл бұрын
@@internetcitizen3224 Bad luck and bad teams , even his team atm was bad , but scaloni made it work by improving the collectivity and chemistry of the team , and using the tight line up in the first half
@everythingsfine1395
@everythingsfine1395 Жыл бұрын
@@juannotivoli Actually messi have better ratio in champions league , he needs one assists to equaliz and two break ronaldo record , and 10 goals in 28 game , that means two seasons
@cyber-fm5642
@cyber-fm5642 Жыл бұрын
You are shittin’ out bangers atm not gunna lie 🔥🔥🔥
@rossbenson3674
@rossbenson3674 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video and thank you for it👍
@tomjonesism
@tomjonesism Жыл бұрын
Think his priorities have changed, don't forget he lost a child this year. Can't blame the man for taking one last paycheck to provide for his family. He's proved himself 1000x over already
@thatathebe644
@thatathebe644 Жыл бұрын
Dahm this video was moving Especially as a Ronaldo fan It's nice to hear someone not shitting on my GOAT RN
@nishanshetty9235
@nishanshetty9235 Жыл бұрын
I actually love both Messi and Ronaldo. Their styles is something mesmerizing. But Messi for me will be the GOAT. He does not have a gifted physique yet still he fights with everything else that he has got. He's an inspiration. Still both have made their fans happy.
@factcheck5767
@factcheck5767 9 ай бұрын
Pendu is just a diving queen. I have seen him going down even the defenders are 10 feet away...just a false claim he is the most fit athelete..... six packs means nothing.... he can't even stand 5'-5" players....he is a diva..
@gpavitra85
@gpavitra85 9 ай бұрын
​@@factcheck5767Keep hating my guy. You cherry picked 2 moments out of the 1000 games he played Just prives your bias
@bikash7007
@bikash7007 7 ай бұрын
​@@factcheck5767Here comes the fans of the GOAT with their bs.
@laserloui2008
@laserloui2008 Жыл бұрын
Very good summary. Its the same thing for me as well. I enjoy both but since i love football i just love Messi. Its not about scoring goals and just the pure numbers. I hate it when people compare goal scorer numbers... thats beside the point (and Messi is still winning that comparison anyway).... its about playing football and there is MUCH more to it than scoring a lot of goals. Just look at how he moves... his balance, his IQ, him opening up the game, creating chances, his playmaker qualities, his accuracy....its just insane. DeBruyne, Chryuff, Zidane, Modric... you name it... nobody comes close to Messi and thats not considering goals. Add goals on top of that... and you have a player in his own league.
@_danl6327
@_danl6327 Жыл бұрын
The way they both are being seen by the fans shows how good they were throughout their career. Putting one as GOAT and ignoring others achievement is jus pure ignorance. Let's celebrate both for how they both made this beautiful game more pretty!!!
@ratikonjaria7648
@ratikonjaria7648 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo is great in his own right, being the second greatest footballer world has ever seen a billionaire and an inspiration for millions of children isn't that bad of a place to be in. I honestly believe that Messi and Ronaldo made each other better, life is a competition in order to progress we complete and these guys made it to the highest level, as good as they did, as long as they did, it's non-replicable. So thank them both
@stephenmassaquoi2814
@stephenmassaquoi2814 Жыл бұрын
What a Battle it was 🥹🥺
@kaitospin3944
@kaitospin3944 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that most people never heard of Al-Nassr football club prior to Cristiano move. What's even funnier is that all these people are pronouncing it wrong... The "L" is actually silent and the "N" is stressed, so it's typed Al-Nassr but pronounced more like An-nasr.
@oktubre13
@oktubre13 Жыл бұрын
as a soccer lover and a fan of the messi, i can equally enjoy what cr7 gave us. You still have to understand that Messi is an alien and Ronaldo a terrestrial like us and that makes him the perfect example that with dedication and effort anything is possible, since in the era of Messi, Cristiano won 5 Ballon d'Ors, all that remains is to thank fate for having been a contemporary of these magnificent players
@stripe7462
@stripe7462 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo and Messi are both the goats of our generation, hands down. Respect to BOTH OF THEM, for being the greatest of all time. 2012 Messi and 2014 Ronaldo were something different than life. Love you both, messi and ronaldo. Have a great day to anyone who is reading this.
@sichelgaito
@sichelgaito Жыл бұрын
There can only be one GOAT, otherwise the acronym makes no sense.
@amaimon8031
@amaimon8031 Жыл бұрын
They are indeed one of the greatest of all time, but Messi was and is greater than Ronaldo in almost all aspects of the sport
@stripe7462
@stripe7462 Жыл бұрын
@@invdvr4034 Shut up.
@electricianuk1992
@electricianuk1992 Жыл бұрын
Things need to be said the way they really are. Cristiano Ronaldo is a great goal scorer and he has the statistics to back him up, yes there has been occasions when he has dribbled and done something magical but most football players will have moments in their careers where they will do something special But with Messi, is different, he is the true meaning of football, the dribbling, the vision, the out of this world passes and assists, the play making, and of course the goals and he does that day in and day out for the last 15 years or more. Messi's game is poetic to the point that you can call it a work of art. His natural talent is God given and that's what makes him the greatest footballer of this generation. It is not disrespectful to Cristiano Ronaldo to just say things as they are. Yes Cristiano will always be a great goal scorer but so will Halland and probably Mbappe but the virtues that Messi has are unique and that's what sets him apart. To be fair to Cristiano Ronaldo, he is unlucky to be playing in the same era s Messi as this has created the biggest football rivalry but people who understand football know that Messi is just on another level and it was never for CR7 or Messi to be compared. Good luck to CR7 in his new club. Messi 🐐
@FTBVDS
@FTBVDS Жыл бұрын
Its still amazing that Ronaldo competed with Messi. Sure Messi imo is way better but they were some moments where ronaldo kinda surpassed messi between when Ronaldo won the ucl in 2016-2018 with Real Madrid and won the first 2 major tournaments between the 2. I would say that Messi comes in 1st in the existence of football, Ronaldo prob comes in 3rd-4th but not far away from the top
@Milliardo66
@Milliardo66 Жыл бұрын
I agree, we will probably never witness anything like it ever again in our lifetime. Like in tennis with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, nothing will compare to that era and these players and we are lucky to have witnessed it all.
@SR-kq2tz
@SR-kq2tz Жыл бұрын
When I was younger I used to dislike ronaldo, even hated him. But I think its just because he came so close to Messi. I have huge respect for him now and I truly wish he does well, maybe even comes back to EU he deserves a proper sendoff. Messi no matter if he doesn't score or play anymore hes got his perfect ending.
@liamburns8554
@liamburns8554 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t dosagree more. In 10 years time the debate will be messi maradona or Pele. Ronaldo will be spoken about as a top 5-10 players. Ronaldo is one of the greatest goalscorers, not one of the best footballers. Fact. We all know this, and those who don’t will come to.
@picsesselane5935
@picsesselane5935 Жыл бұрын
Two one of the all time greats of football both are g.o.a.ts ⚽⚽
@Jade-yb8jy
@Jade-yb8jy Жыл бұрын
I think you're overall right, that they clearly are the two greats, etc. However, I would like to point out that Ronaldo does control when he retires. He could have simply accepted that he was not performing as well due to his age, accepted it with more grace, and not caused such a ridiculous falling out as he did.
@cit0110
@cit0110 Жыл бұрын
I've always said the world cup is easier and if you can ever win one is all the luck of the draw when it comes to what you're born as also who's born in the powerhouse countries you play against. Im a messi fan, even if he lost the wc here i would said it doesn't change a single thing. Same for ronaldo. its sad to see the football world let him down and seeing it all crumble. Manchester united was a terrible decision but at the time it was heart warming seeing him come back to a team we all saw him start his greatness in. very frustrating to watch all of this. All i wanted to see is messi win this world cup and ronaldo to win one more champions league
@Vizeh
@Vizeh Жыл бұрын
Where do you stand by the end of the Messi vs Ronaldo Debate?
@ALIENGOATMESSI
@ALIENGOATMESSI Жыл бұрын
Messi won the battle and deserved it.What we are waiting for is for RONALDO to confirm it.Messi has always respected him
@usssouthdakota5541
@usssouthdakota5541 Жыл бұрын
@@ALIENGOATMESSI Ronaldo also respects Messi, the only reason he says he's better is because of his mindset, he believes he's the best and will do everything for it, he'll probably keep that mindset for the rest of his life.
@ALIENGOATMESSI
@ALIENGOATMESSI Жыл бұрын
@@usssouthdakota5541 is he really better???Be realistic bro.U cannot compare magic to anything else.Sometimes is not about who I love or don't love.U just have to accept it.I'm not forcing u but opening your eyes.
@Wolfenstein31
@Wolfenstein31 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo still
@usssouthdakota5541
@usssouthdakota5541 Жыл бұрын
@@ALIENGOATMESSI I never said he's better, I personally prefer CR7, I respect Messi, don't turn this into a GOAT debate, I fckin hate those.
@celeschan90
@celeschan90 Жыл бұрын
Cristiano is by far the 2nd best player. Maradona, R9, Zidane, they don't come close to his numbers, let alone the longevity. Pele is the only one I don't really know how to measure, because he does have similar numbers (and 3 Word Cups), but a lot of that came from friendly matches and military matches.
@filoriketi1881
@filoriketi1881 Жыл бұрын
It's not how many goals you scored or how many games you played, it's how you dance with it, and Ronaldo doesn't have it no like Messi or Neymar or Maradona or Pele all those guys can dance naturally Ronaldo it's a robot, and the people that can really play football they know what I'm talking about ( cheers )
@slev6592
@slev6592 Жыл бұрын
Nah when you include friendlies Pele has way more goals then Messi or Ronaldo.
@mitonaarea5856
@mitonaarea5856 Жыл бұрын
By far??? My friend you are talking about football, not the NBA. Huge diserpect to Maradona..
@celeschan90
@celeschan90 Жыл бұрын
@@filoriketi1881 For me it's also how Messi plays. The numbers are there too, but the main thing is something not measured by statistics.
@celeschan90
@celeschan90 Жыл бұрын
@@mitonaarea5856 Maybe I am disrespecting Maradona, but I'd like somene to explain it to me because I don't understand how he is comparable, if we are talking stats. And don't get me wrong, for me the main thing with Messi isn't even his stats, but the way he plays. He just also has the goals/min and assist/min on top of that. But I can't say that about Maradona because that was before my time. I've only seen him play in highlight reels. Not week in and week out for 15+ years like I saw Messi and Ronaldo. And people who have seen Maradona play said that he wasn't Maradona every single week. But Messi and Ronaldo consistently were themselves for year. But looking at the numbers, Maradona doesn't even come close, does he? His BEST scoring season in Europe was 23 goals for Barcelona in 1983. That was his peak. Which reminds me of something Rio Ferdinand said. "If Messi or Ronaldo had put up the numbers that Maradona had in his prime, people would have said they fell off." So I really don't understand why Maradona is in that conversation unless it's about the way he played, and carrying Argentina to a World Cup win. But I've never been of the opinion that you judge someone's whole career over 1-2 months, when anything can happen in any given day. It's not your fault if you are born in Andorra, or if your two main defenders have a terrible day and you lose. I always knew Messi COULD win the World Cup, because I have eyes. It wouldn't change how I see him whether he did or didn't. I am very impressed with how great he played all tournament, but he was already the best player I've seen before that.
@THE_DARK_KNIGHTsb
@THE_DARK_KNIGHTsb Жыл бұрын
bro m watching both from 2010 world cup to here it's so sad to see them go away 😭😭😭😭
@yohanesa7728
@yohanesa7728 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely and game over! It was actually over long time ago but it’s always natural when people get divided on what they prefer and so I respect that. Thank God it finally comes and I’m so so happy for Messi, the alien, who made us all fall in love with football. Love Argentina & love Messi men…….!!!
@Darthvader-zy5uo
@Darthvader-zy5uo Жыл бұрын
Messi has the record for Most away goals in laliga Most international mvp Most goals in a ucl match ( 5 ) Most goal contributions in a calender year Most goals in a season ( 73 ) Most g/a In el classico's Most goals in a laliga season ( 50 ) Most individual trophies ever Most man of the match at the world cup Most pichichi trophies Most laliga wins Most goals in a league season Most international goals in a year ( 25 ) Most goals in finals Most ballon dors ever ( 7 ) Most hat-tricks in ucl ( 8 ) Most assists ever ( 350+ ) Most golden boots ever ( 6 ) Most assists in a season Most goals in a calender year ( 91 ) Most assists in a calender year Most dribbles in barcelona Most assists for Argentina Most goals in barcelona Most man of the match ( 350+ ) Most goals in South America Most goals in laliga Most g/a In history ( 1100 ) Most laliga best forward Most free kick goals Most free kick goals in a season ( 8 ) Most laliga player of the season Most goals for Argentina Most trophies with a single club Most copa del reys Most successful dribbles ever ( 3000+ ) Most golden boots in a single club ( 6 ) Most goals in domestic competitions Most assists in laliga ( 182 ) Most assists in el classico's Most laliga motms Most laliga player of the months ( 8 ) Most goals in el classico's Most goals for a single club Most hat-tricks in laliga ( 36 ) Most dribbles in ucl Most league goals in a season Most ballon dor's at one club ( 6 ) Highest goal to game ratio in laliga Longest goal-scoring streak in laliga Top ucl scorrer four times in a row Top scorrer in international competitions The first player to get 350+ assists The player with the most trophies ( 40 ) The youngest player to score 200 goals The only goalscorer with 350+ assists The only playmaker with 750+ goals The first player to get 350+ assists in the 21th century The youngest and the oldest player to score and assist in a single world cup game Most goals against Premier league top 6 in ucl The only player to score 40 goals In 10 seasons in a row The only player to win a ballon dor in 3 different decades He literally became barcelona's all time top scorrer at 24 years of age Messi won 14 Fifpro world XI 11 laliga player of the season 10 laliga 9 laliga player of the year 8 pichichi trophies 8 Spanish super cups 8 laliga top scorrer's 7 Spanish cups 7 copa del reys 7 puskas nominations 7 laliga best forward 6 ucl top scorrer's 6 worlds best player 5 copa del rey top scorrer's 4 ballon dors in a row 4 fifa world cup dream team 4 Onze dor's 4 best playmaker 4 ucl trophies 3 fifa club World cup 3 European super cup 3 uefa super cups 3 best player in Europe 2 copa America's best player 2 mens player of the year 1 Olympic medal 1 bravo award 1 best player of the 21th century 1 golden boy 1 fainalissima 1 copa America 1 greatest player of the last 25 years 1 golden ball 1 Alfredo di Stefano trophy Messi is the best in football history at Playmaking Dribbling Passing Messi was better in 2009 2010 2011 2012 2015 2019 2021 He is the nightmare of Allison Navas Casillas Ederson Best player in the 2014 world cup = 🇦🇷 Ratio in friendly matches = 🇦🇷 Assists per game in ucl = 🇦🇷 Ratio in domestic cups = 🇦🇷 Goals per game In ucl = 🇦🇷 G/a In domestic cups = 🇦🇷 More domestic cups = 🇦🇷 Goals out of the box = 🇦🇷 Better at Lob goals = 🇦🇷 Assists per game = 🇦🇷 Goals + assists = 🇦🇷 Free kick goals = 🇦🇷 Average rating = 🇦🇷 More primes = 🇦🇷 Acceleration = 🇦🇷 Key passes = 🇦🇷 Creativity = 🇦🇷 Accuracy = 🇦🇷 Left foot = 🇦🇷 Trophies = 🇦🇷 Balance = 🇦🇷 Corners = 🇦🇷 Technic = 🇦🇷 Vision = 🇦🇷 Agility = 🇦🇷 Prime = 🇦🇷 Curve = 🇦🇷 Curl = 🇦🇷 Iq = 🇦🇷 Messi is better at Dribbling Passing Playmaking Free kicks Assisting Nutmegs Body faints Crossing Long passes Ronaldo's best year: 83 g/a Messi's best year: 113 g/a Even Messi's 3rd and 2nd best years are more than Ronaldo's best year Messi after 20 ucl games: 8 goals Ronaldo after 20 ucl games: 0 goals Ronaldo in 1000 games: 725 goals, 216 assists, 31 trophies Messi in 1000 games: 789 goals, 348 assists, 42 trophies In league stats Messi has a g/a per game of 1.30 Ronaldo has a g/a per game of 1.01 In champions league Messi has a g/a per game of 1.03 Ronaldo has a g/a per game of 0.99 In the national career Messi has a g/a per game of 0.85 Ronaldo has a g/a per game of 0.84
@rakanalajmi6169
@rakanalajmi6169 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s past your bedtime now little Messi Jr
@user-wg8ko7kr9f
@user-wg8ko7kr9f Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 no one asked penaldo dickrider
@user-wg8ko7kr9f
@user-wg8ko7kr9f Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 messi is the GOAT cry harder clown penaldo fangirl 🤡🇵🇹
@Glow_Board
@Glow_Board Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 I think it's time to eat ur dog food....penaldog
@worldcupppppp735
@worldcupppppp735 Жыл бұрын
Keep comparing
@justinseagull8470
@justinseagull8470 Жыл бұрын
I really like your take on the whole thing, we need more mature fans of the two.
@mandarbhosale5796
@mandarbhosale5796 Жыл бұрын
As a Messi fan... I will just say that there will never be a player like Ronaldo, the amount of hardwork he does, It's not a joke. Best player in champions League history... Biggest sports icon, strong attitude and mindset, so much energy and work ethic... Pile of motivation. Legendary stuff. I pick Messi over him bcoz of my taste of football... But on the other hand. Always respect for CR7
@tibetanspiderman3072
@tibetanspiderman3072 Жыл бұрын
I really loved Messi, when he won the world cup, but since Ronaldo's son died last year, Ronaldo is only getting hate from English media till now. Please let him play in peace! RONALDO is our GOD of FOOTBALL
@Dream-rk4te
@Dream-rk4te Жыл бұрын
People nowadays forget Di Stefano in the GOAT conversation. The man literally won the super ball d'or ahead of Cruyff and Platini. He doesn't get the credit he deserves because he was essentially suspended from playing in the world cup by FIFA and also Brazilian football association
@aalamahmad25
@aalamahmad25 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes ball d'or
@thewhambam
@thewhambam Жыл бұрын
Messi vs ronaldo will always continue as long as there is one stat that the other edges out on
@ElDragow
@ElDragow Жыл бұрын
I'm a Barcelona fan since birth, but i have always been more of a Ronaldo fan and think he's simply the greatest of all time. But fanboys need to stop comparing and fighting all the time. No matter who you think is better, both are by far the greatest ever. So be happy we have watched the 2 greatest ever in the same flipping era.
@nickortiz215
@nickortiz215 Жыл бұрын
As an Argentine, call me a bit biased but I think Messi is the greatest player of all time and i don’t really see much valid argument against it. That being said Ronaldo is absolutely amazing and is undoubtedly top 3, maybe even 2 on that list. Both absolute legends of the game and we’re lucky to have been born in a generation where we could grow up watch these two fantastic players
@SpiritualSpringroll
@SpiritualSpringroll Жыл бұрын
The villainization and of CR7 lately, it is regrettable. Recent Saintification of Messi, rather exaggerated. Part was because CR7 is too vocal about his thoughts. The pressure on him was immense. I mediate in cross cultural communication challenges and my love runs a social media agency. Even though it’s different, we both look into behavioral science, psychology, group dynamics. In this day and age 2022/23, we have to factor in social media impact. If I take a case e.g. team with challenges. Analyzing variables that impact. CR7 is actually correct when he expresses that he needs support, sort of team protection, because his social media presence is huge. They did that excellently with Messi. You just cannot simply think that away and not be strategic together with CR7 about it also. Now, CR7 is a football player, not behavioral scientist nor specialized in communication. So he has historically not been “careful” or weighed his words. Clearly not CR7’s strongest point, a vulnerability for sure. M10 is portrayed more like a saint. Yet e.g. M10 has more passive aggressive tendencies when unhappy. His negativity is less obvious but he of course is not saint. He tends to be more secretive of his thoughts, mindset, a classic observer. CR7 is has honed his technical talent excellently clearly more explosive in his personality, play and strikes. It is this same passion that is his power. Very different players and people. CR7 is more prone to outbursts if he feels unsafe or not carried by team. As a coach, you have to know your player and especially a star player. If not? The cracks occur very soon because Media pressure on such a star is massive. Ferguson had the status, the weight and vast experience already. Ten Hag is still less experienced and dealing with a CR7 with an incredible following, is extremely unique and requires awareness from any coach. He is the most followed person in the world. The public punishing to show your “weight” over a person who has such a following is extremely stupid actually. Very unstrategic. I don’t think an average Joe like us, can even know what it’s like to be constantly provoked. It’s a pity that CR7 took the bait. Another variable is that CR7 is more than average goodlooking i.e. fairly attractive. (So he is correct in mentioning it, probably because he simply senses it, but it’s not smart to mention it) M10 is lookswise average. He attracts less envy. CR7 had an alcoholic war veteran dad who was often too intoxicated to connect properly with him. They were poor and had no money, hunger. CR7 had a heart surgery at 15 which was lonely, risky and scary. His positive self talk is clearly a manner to comfort himself without anyone there. It’s part of what made him beat the odds, overcome his loneliness and become successful. We know from studies that positive self talk works, but to beat the odds like this? It’s actually literally mindblowing. Boys without a father or alcoholic, often don’t to well and have higher chance to fail in life and become e.g. petty thief/ criminal. CR7 is the most generous football player when it comes to charity. He never forgot where he came from. He regularly donates blood. He had thoughts about adopting poor children, yet his focus is not that now. So, do I think M10 is a better human? Not exactly. He is a good guy, but is less ‘generous’ with sharing his thoughts, life, mindset, money and has no interest in donating blood. M10 donates, but is more “careful” and thus less of a giver in another way. Now, M10 is very talented. Even when a bit chubby, he was good. A CR7 is very talented, he was open about that he had to hone skills through dedication, training, positive mindset. It wasn’t actually “given” to him. So he is more relatable in that respect than a M10. CR7 is less relatable because he shares his rare winner’s mindset out loud, while the other doesn’t. So to villainize CR7 so much? Killing his career in Europe while he still has the dedication to inspire ? Makes me sad. Al Nassr wasn’t his original plan. It was the only “decent” respectable offer and choice left after all the backlash. The money eases some pain. With a type like CR7, the envy and misunderstandings make people tend to “test” his strength to the extremes. It’s often subconscious. Yet at the end of the day, it’s just a man. He needs team support to perform, like any other player. He could die like any man and his career in Europe could die prematurely too due to the villainization. Nobody is invincible and both need a positive team and team coach, lonely positive self talk is never bullet proof. I don’t think CR7 nor Messi is “just” about the money. Sometimes extreme villainization of one can lead to a premature death in their European career. There were years that Messi was wrongly villainized, but he had the time to comeback because of his age, he almost gave up and CR7 doesn’t because the exteme villainization happened near the end of his career while he wanted more care after death of his child and almost death of his baby daughter in the same year. Wish MU well, but CR7 did a lot for them winning and scoring. It’s just feels off how it went and the lack of understanding. I miss m in Europe. Hated/loved… never ignored.
@_sstalker
@_sstalker Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see someone starting a comment with "I'm a Messi fan but we shouldn't compare him and CR7, both are great" I instantly know it's a CR7 fan in disguise. Anyone who watched Messi for more than a few games knows he is miles better, they'd never think of CR7 as an equal to Messi. Yeah, we can appreciate both, but one of them is not like the other.
@OveralGaming
@OveralGaming Жыл бұрын
Puskas Ference was playing at 37 for real madrid and he started at the age of 35 or so and won multiple La ligas :D that guy was a beast his stats and eberythign even at an older age with real he was a mosnter
@Bubs-_-
@Bubs-_- Жыл бұрын
I'm a United fan, so Ronaldo will always have a special place in my heart. But I'll always have the utmost respect for Messi and what he's done for the game. Anyone who says that they aren't the 2 greatest players ever need their head checked
@joeproctor7
@joeproctor7 Жыл бұрын
I guess you could argue Pele with Ronaldo, but he's definitely at least 3rd, if not 2nd
@dualesulaiman1135
@dualesulaiman1135 Жыл бұрын
well said bro, as a Messi fan from Somaliland, lets applaud Ronaldo 🙌🙌🙌
@jakehtafc8342
@jakehtafc8342 Жыл бұрын
Love the recent vids your making
@Vizeh
@Vizeh Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!❤
@salty_web_6956
@salty_web_6956 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo is simply unbelievable.. everything he's done and brought for the game will probably never be challenged and we get distracted from that imo because Messi is out of this world, he is the best dribbler ever, the most creative footballer you'll ever see paired with those once in a lifetime ball skills, at least top5 passers of all time & on top of that, beats ronaldo in his own yard - on every scoring aspect besides penalties & headers, like not even close. Stats aside, the mentioned creativity and ability to influence games without scoring or being a threat in the penalty box, paired with the awards & trophies clearly put him in a different universe & as I said, the only bad thing is that there are delusional people who question that fact & make it seem like there is a debate, which again takes away from Ronaldo's unbelievable career imo & is probably the one thing a lover of football will be discouraged by because Ronaldo can't accept it himself and acts arrogant as a result If you truly love & understand football, you'll understand that the things that Messi does cannot be imitated by another human - make that stand on its own for a sec... and then look at his contribution and the beating stats and for the love of artistry, beauty and science in life & everything we've evolved to become, call it a wrap once and for all. Thank you to both of them!
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo is better goalscorer and overall better in international....wanna argue? Ronaldo was better in euro than Messi was in copa statistically. Ronaldo for Portugal: 118 goals and 33 assists in 196 appearances Messi for Argentina: 98 goals and 53 assists in 172 appearances Hat-tricks: Ronaldo 10; Messi 8 International goal ratio: Ronaldo 0.60; Messi 0.57 Penalties: Ronaldo 17; Messi 24. Also Ronaldo in euro Tournaments: 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 All-time finals record: 14 goals in 24 matches Messi in copa against weak teams.. Tournaments: 2007, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021 All-time finals record: 13 goals in 34 matches He's played 10 more matches and had less goals than Ronaldo in much weaker competition. And Ronaldo has most of laliga goal scoring records except calender year record.
@jaykrishnan1398
@jaykrishnan1398 Жыл бұрын
@@bu11ymaguire Now book a ticket to Saudi Arabia😂😂😂 crynaldo’s not stopping anytime soon.
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
@@jaykrishnan1398 i don't care. They are both the very best and there is a reason goat debate existed. And if somebody thinks an argument can't be made that Ronaldo is the best is stupid. If you go a certain route Ronaldo is better....if you go another route Messi is better. There is no undisputed goat. You can cry.
@Glow_Board
@Glow_Board Жыл бұрын
@@bu11ymaguire I like Ronaldo for his hardwork and his goals so i understand. But when u see Mess, the delight a football fan gets watching him is the reason most people don't wanna debate between them and say that messi is from another universe. To top it all off he has beaten Ronaldo,in his own stronghold(the stats) and has had a great impact in winning the world cup recently. So i think people should get out of their narrow minds and for the better good of football accept that Messi has been something else . Ofc Ronaldo has been pretty close to exceeding him so props to that and i love him equally but for the sake of football, we gotta respect Messi for what he has been and how will never see such a player again. But hey u seem to be clearly a Ronaldo fan so obviously ur biased with those statistics and i know u won't change ur mind cuz lets be honest, majority of Ronaldo fans are very arrogant just like Ronaldo himself so i don't blame you
@bu11ymaguire
@bu11ymaguire Жыл бұрын
@@Glow_Board i agree Messi is visually more beautiful. I am talking about the impact and their careers. In stats, they are half- half.
@blablabla4383
@blablabla4383 Жыл бұрын
to be fair all my life i taught messi is levels above ronaldo but i still saw ronaldo as the 2nd best ever but if you ask me if i thin ronaldo will come back tha answer is a strong NO and to say zlatan did it is just strange because he is just special just like messi and ronaldo are special in their ways so is zlatan and i think it's very wrong to say that if any of these 3 did something so cand the other one or two depending on who you are asking
@blablabla4383
@blablabla4383 Жыл бұрын
plus that to be fair zlatan when it went to msl he wasn't performing worse the clubs just taught that because of his age and horibile injury that he will be bad
@tusharagarwal6155
@tusharagarwal6155 Жыл бұрын
Zlatan is back only in name. He has not even started for AC Milan for so long.
@blablabla4383
@blablabla4383 Жыл бұрын
@@tusharagarwal6155 21 games 17 goals
@factualanimation
@factualanimation Жыл бұрын
Great video mate!
@andrewfraserjr
@andrewfraserjr Жыл бұрын
Great video vizeh I really loved it
@herceg6772
@herceg6772 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo can only jump higher than Messi. Nothing else. Messi speaks with his left foot and that is enough for him to be the 🐐
@jadandunkley171
@jadandunkley171 2 ай бұрын
Ronaldo also runs a lot faster, is a better finisher too and is a far more clutch player.
@herceg6772
@herceg6772 2 ай бұрын
@@jadandunkley171 yes he has to run faster to achieve what Messi do with half power. It doesn’t make him better player because he runs faster. Messi is far better finisher from all posotions. Ronaldo only do the last 5%. Just waiting for ball, not in the playmaking.
@jadandunkley171
@jadandunkley171 2 ай бұрын
@@herceg6772 you are forgetting Ronaldo has the most goals in football history by quite a mile and he played in more competitive leagues than messi, in worse teams than messi, and Ronaldo played over 250+ games as a left winger 💀, he broke the prem most goals in a season as a left winger bro just take that in he wasn’t even a striker and scored 34 goals in 38 games of which he himself only played 35 games, let alone adding in the assist he got that season. Messi couldn’t do the same , he couldn’t even score against Chelsea till 2017 having played chelsea 6 times prior 🤣. No doubt messi is top 3 off all time and a fantastic player but I truly believe he’s been sheltered his whole career. La liga was a 2 horse race, messi had the best midfield 3 of all time behind him and at one point he played in the greatest front 3 to ever grace the game. Ronaldo has never played in anywhere near as good a team as Messi, even at international level. Ronaldo is the better player it’s just his ego is simply the issue, he thought he was too big for Madrid and that’s why he left despite he would of probably won a few more UCLs and probably another 1 or 2 ballondor. Same as at United he thinks he is bigger than the club and that’s what made fans turn on him. Only thing messi really has on Ronaldo is dribbling , playmaking and Messi is far more humble but that’s it
@herceg6772
@herceg6772 Ай бұрын
@@jadandunkley171 Messi not in top three of all time?? Enough! 8 ballon d or!!! Who achieved that before him??? Messi reached all the records a lot faster than ronaldo. Less games played!
@jadandunkley171
@jadandunkley171 Ай бұрын
@@herceg6772 bro I said messi is top 3, my top 3 is probably 1.R9, 2 CR7, 3. Messi.Football is not all about ballondor. Remember the ballondor is an award that is voted on by football journalist, media and the elite European players that are invited to vote. Messi has never put Cristiano I’m his top 3 voting 1 time in 18 years 😭, Ronaldo has voted messi many times. Messi win the ballondor last year we know he didn’t deserve it over haaland , I’m saying this as a person who genuinely hates Man City, but this 22yr old kid won the treble and broke every scoring record in his debut season. Messi won a wc and congrats but Messi wasn’t even the best player at psg. Let’s be honest whoever won the wc woulda won the ballondor so if mbappe has won he would of won the ballondor even tho he wouldn’t deserve it. Messi should have 7 ballondor and Ronaldo should have six because he shouldn’t of come 2nd to modric when he was top goal scorer and won the ucl for the 3rd time in a row
@mitonaarea5856
@mitonaarea5856 Жыл бұрын
I think that Messi could play until 40 if he wants because of his technical ability and he his a very complete footballer. Ronaldo relied more on his physical abilities that´s why he is decline at 37, your body will fail you no matter what you do.
@noafix
@noafix Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo y Messi nos han regalado casi 100 títulos entre los dos, y casi 2000 goles entre los dos en los últimos 15 años. No veremos una rivalidad semejante. Eso en cuanto a números. En cuanto a calidad sinceramente creo que Messi es lo más grande que veremos en vida. En todo caso, a ambos les llegará el final. Me siento afortunado de haber vivido en la misma época que estos dos.
@zedfinn
@zedfinn Жыл бұрын
The disrespect 💀, people be putting ronaldo in top 5 , top 10 barely even top 3 now , what has happened after this word cup is acc crazy .
@sagarranjan4585
@sagarranjan4585 Жыл бұрын
The last time Ronaldo was better than Messi was the 2007-08 season. All his other ballon do'rs have been courtesy his PR and papa Perez's influence. His goalscoring is at par with Messi but in other aspects of the game, he is miles behind Messi.
@bluebeing1754
@bluebeing1754 Жыл бұрын
That's the truth.
@tusharagarwal6155
@tusharagarwal6155 Жыл бұрын
What an idiotic comment...even Messi's ballon d'Or were Barca's courtesy. He won WC thanks to Fifa fixing it.
@etzjunior_
@etzjunior_ Жыл бұрын
@@tusharagarwal6155 yea fifa fixed it and knocked out Portugal🤣🤣🤣. Must be hard!
@Its_just_luca
@Its_just_luca Жыл бұрын
The only thing that still doesn’t sit right with me is. Ronaldo wasn’t bad at United. Look at the stats last season. He was there best player. Clutched some amazing games in the champions leauge as well. So why are people saying he can’t play at top level anymore ?
@daniaaal
@daniaaal Жыл бұрын
Why are people saying he can’t play at top level? Look at the performances this season. A stark difference from the previous one. He dropped off incredibly.
@ahonnaga8854
@ahonnaga8854 Жыл бұрын
Cr7 will be 🔥 for mid table teams but not for UCL challenging teams unless he accepts to be a squad player. Mid table team will work for him but he will hamper top teams if he plays week in week out.
@angratessio
@angratessio Жыл бұрын
Cuz there’s more to playing at the top level than poaching these days and ronaldo is good for nothing other than finishing a chance atm. He can’t do it anymore
@sonicwithglasses131
@sonicwithglasses131 Жыл бұрын
"Last season"
@dlmperplex337
@dlmperplex337 Жыл бұрын
You are only looking at stats and not the game. Ronaldo killed Utd's attack to make it all about himself. United defence became poor cuz Ronaldo isn't doing anything in the department, including pressing. He can't too. Statpadding can make you look good in the eyes of statisticians, but not in the eyes of actual viewers.
@realhunts3266
@realhunts3266 10 ай бұрын
They both were amazing players! Both carried their countries and clubs! GOATS!
@bobopatchnosuke229
@bobopatchnosuke229 Жыл бұрын
None of them are my favourite players but I can appreciate what they both did to the game.
@karnvirbhangu334
@karnvirbhangu334 Жыл бұрын
I'm a messi fan but end of the day cr7 accomplished what he wanted to do and that was being remembered as an all time great in the sport. He's there with the likes of Messi, Maradonna and Pele.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 Жыл бұрын
No he is not
@jjj8317
@jjj8317 Жыл бұрын
Messi won, I respected Ronaldo all the way until he sold himself to the Saudis, even though he could have made lots of money in Sporting and ended his career playing champions league football. The issue was not moving to a lower league, but to a country that has such a horrible reputation where football is just a sport that exist to pleasure this super ultra rich people that do a lot of questionable things who treat foreigners far worse than any western country could, even worse than a country like Russia. Playing back in your home country is a respectable thing to do, and the Brazilian, and Argentinian leagues are far more competitive and respectable, with true fans who have a football culture. So the rational bring presented here is d*mb, for players like maradona, Although, as a human being, if ai got paid like 4x my wage to work part time, surrounded by mediocre workers who had no desire to improve and I could just chill. Sure, why not. But as a football fan, he just broke my heart and the little boy who followed his games on manchester every weekend. But that's life. There are no real heroes.
@astralcowboy5511
@astralcowboy5511 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo became a pure finishing machine but more vulnerable to age impacting his strengths ie pace, leap, and at the elite level, stamina. To keep to the level he has until 36/37 is phenomenal but Father Time catches up with anybody. I think he’s going to tank badly towards the end of his Saudi deal. Messi is not so one-dimensional and has adapted as a playmaker as his pace has diminished but I think he has at the very best only two seasons left at an elite level, maybe just one more.
@JonathanEFC
@JonathanEFC Жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate the quality of videos recently, GOAT VIZEH
@Juju-kt3bh
@Juju-kt3bh Жыл бұрын
Look I don’t wanna get attacked here I’ll just say my opinion. I’ve loved football since I was 3 years old when my dad introduced me to it but I think that besides Ronaldo’s amazing prime at united and his good times at Real Madrid there never should’ve been a debate for me Messi has always been so far of everyone and his playing style doesn’t get affected with age nearly as much as Ronaldo. Pelé is one of the greatest and any skill you see, pele did it first but Messi is the closest to perfect a footballer can get. He has amazing body strength, amazing vision, amazing shooting, amazing team player, amazing dribbling, good speed an amazing and humble person as Benzema said “if you criticize Messi yk nothing about football” and as Ronaldinho said to Kobe that Messi will be the best ever when he was only 19. Messi’s only weak point is his height for headers but Ronaldo did stuff that a lot of people did only much better but Messi did stuff that nobody has ever seen except maybe for pelé and maradona but they didn’t do it for as long as Messi has been doing it so in my opinion Messi is the greatest of all time. Sure Ronaldo’s 2 years older but people have to realize that Messi is the god of football and even in 2 years messi will be the same he is right now and no matter how much Ronaldo works out he can’t get his young self back unlike Messi who’s always been the same and Messi didn’t even need a World Cup to prove he’s the best but I’m so happy he won
@youtuber-tg1pu
@youtuber-tg1pu Жыл бұрын
There was never a debate, and if there was, it ended in 2009 or 2011.
@henrydavids5276
@henrydavids5276 Жыл бұрын
I just think irrespective of age, is the way you conduct yourself that shows who you are
@mrkabaze
@mrkabaze Жыл бұрын
My dream is Messi winning CL with PSG , his 8th Ballon and retiring at Barca
@YR13-520
@YR13-520 Жыл бұрын
There is no GOAT. football is a team game, and players do well depending on who your teammates are. As well as this, these rankings seem to be very biased towards attackers, and not midfielders and defenders, and especially goalies. To me, you can't compare 2 players because of these factors changing how they play, you can try to compare them, but players have different teammates, making it complicated.
@user-wg8ko7kr9f
@user-wg8ko7kr9f Жыл бұрын
Then why some players are payed more than others
@user-wg8ko7kr9f
@user-wg8ko7kr9f Жыл бұрын
Messi is clearly the GOAT
@Emma_madison
@Emma_madison Жыл бұрын
🙄
@de7518
@de7518 Жыл бұрын
You can't disagree with this, although the things messi has done on the pitch for many years, he just looks to be different from everyone else
@bobopatchnosuke229
@bobopatchnosuke229 Жыл бұрын
I do agree that defenders don't get recognized
@yessintriki
@yessintriki Жыл бұрын
when Messi wins the World Cup a lot of people criticized Ronaldo for no reason .I mean we are comparing portugal and argentina these two countries have big diffrence .Please guys respect these two goats and if u are an old human thank god that u enjoyed watching them.
@desmondachocky537
@desmondachocky537 Жыл бұрын
Cmon!On paper portugal were perhaps one of the best stacked teams alongside Brazil n France.Worldclass players from the likes of Diaz,Cancelo,Bernado silva,Bruno Fernandez,Joao felix,nuno mendez,Leao,pepe e.t.Messi literally won the wcup with 20 yr old inexperienced kids some who play for mid table teams like Brighton,Aston villa e.t.c.Messi would easily win the wcup with that Portuguese team.Argentina were just more of a team than individuals with the exception of the Genius Messi n they were more resilient,hungrier n determined to give their all to help their talisman win that wcup.
@MuhammadSufyan-sl2eg
@MuhammadSufyan-sl2eg Жыл бұрын
Nah Argentina got younger and inexperienced player. And Messi carried them to lift the trophy. You guys insult Messi win Argentina lose but now Argentina win and you decided to use "Argentina better squad excuse". At this point of time, you all are just sad lol
@Heimerh
@Heimerh Жыл бұрын
Portugal's team is better than Ronaldo
@clintstuarthanse5387
@clintstuarthanse5387 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you 👍they have done something we haven't seen before in history and surely won't see again soon,unless of course if Ansu Fati can break out of shell and become a player to challenge the two giants in the game at the moment namely Mbape and Haaland I truly believe he can maybe if that happens we will have 3 at the top for how long we don't know.
@TommyRx
@TommyRx Жыл бұрын
Never going to be another rivalry as big as this one was
@herceg6772
@herceg6772 Жыл бұрын
I really don’t know why Ronaldo is in this discussion. Yes he scored a lot of goals but most of times the man was standing in the 16m field waiting for others do all the job. He is only a finisher. No play making, tbh his driblings are not so succesful, no much contribution. He is more to be compared to Zlatan or Lewa. Messi is at completely different league. His own league levels above. Messi is so spectacular in his driblings playmakings, passings, scorings. No way ronaldo can be at the same level as Messi
@allthingsflight5027
@allthingsflight5027 Жыл бұрын
My opinion is and will always ever be that Ronaldo is the greatest goal scorer of all time , however, as a complete footballer even though I am a Ronaldo fan i think that Messi is better. I would've loved to see Ronaldo overtake Messi on Ballon D'or in 2018, but it couldn't happen.
@rakanalajmi6169
@rakanalajmi6169 Жыл бұрын
It couldn’t happen because they wouldn’t let it happen since FIFA and the media as a whole prefer Messi. Even though Ronaldo truly deserved it that year, they could not let him exceed Messi in Ballon Dors. If Messi won the Champions League and had Ronaldo’s stats that year, it’s more than safe to say he would have won it that year because it’s “Messi”
@allthingsflight5027
@allthingsflight5027 Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 tbf they did put messi in 5th that year
@everythingsfine1395
@everythingsfine1395 Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 Not even top 30 last year , prefer messi what a joke
@allthingsflight5027
@allthingsflight5027 Жыл бұрын
@@everythingsfine1395 he didn’t deserve to be in top 30 tbf
@etzjunior_
@etzjunior_ Жыл бұрын
@@rakanalajmi6169 mf Messi was the top scorer that year and came 5th. Ronaldo Fans and excuses are like bread and butter. Messi’s been better. Deal with it and stop making up salty excuses
@jbtoledo
@jbtoledo Жыл бұрын
the best football player who ever walked the planet yet humble and kind
@doyufwme
@doyufwme Жыл бұрын
I've been a Cristiano fan all my life, but I respect messi alot, if someone says messi is the Goat I'll have no problem, even if he isn't my Goat I respect him too much to not agree he is one of the greatest
@hoau1406
@hoau1406 Жыл бұрын
Yes couldn't have said it better.
@koustobhborah2275
@koustobhborah2275 Жыл бұрын
Messi was always the G.O.A.T. There was never a doubt in the minds of anyone who genuinely knows the game. Ronaldo is a good finisher - the best even, and that is all he is honestly. Nothing more, nothing less. Messi is the better striker, playmaker, makes better passes, much better dribbler, has a much better accuracy with lesser shots per goal, more work rate, more key chances created and what not. Messi is an attacking powerhouse - the master of almost all trades in attacking football. He is technically much better than anyone who came before him and will remain ahead for a long time to come. The only thing missing was the WC, because without that award, you aren't qualified for the G.O.A.T. debate. That is the standard set forward by most of those critical of him. And he met the standard and proved himself the greatest. No comparison with the past, present or future.
@clayx39
@clayx39 Жыл бұрын
Bro forgot that he can assist, like bro, he is a winger and became a winger during his time at utd and more of madrid, like what are you on about, about him just being able to score.
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