do you run rear pto cutter at the same time by chance?

@@jakeMTSU I do.

This sounds more like a patent-war that Trailblazer lost, which means that Lane Shark can now sell this type of product exclusively. In retail, there's no shame in the game. Messick's was selling products being offered on the open market, even in direct competition. Having a diverse product line is a plus for retailers and consumers, as competition keeps prices in-check. With the apparent loss in the courts, the Trailblazer product is no longer an option, which is a blow to consumers, who previously had the choice of two competing companies. Now, if you want a product that can perform these tasks, you will need to pay the price that Lane Shark Demands, as they have no competition in the market. Regardless, Messick's will be more than happy to sell you a Lane Shark product, and Lane Shark will be more than happy to ship as many units to them for sale as possible. The loss here is to the customer, because not only did we lose the ability to choose options that fitted our needs and budget, but we're now going to be completely at the mercy of Lane Shark's marketing department with regard to pricing, features and availability. This was an anti-capitalist decision that only harms small-time farmers like me.........................

@@karlbrundage7472 yeah I’m all for patent protection when it really is something new but these are just skid steer mowers mounted on a tractor

Trail blazer had an easier set up. No modifications to your tractor or a bunch of extra you had to buy.

We never sold Lane Shark until now. We had one demo mower at the store when we started considering this, but never became a dealer. We went with Titan (IronCraft) because we already sold their other stuff and it was an existing relationship.

@@kenneysheppard7763 honestly I disagree. We looked at both and the LS with a WR long kit out front (3rd function) was going to be way easier to deal with day to day. Having a power pack out back just meant we had less options when running our gun range tractor. Meaning with the LS, we can brush cut on the back with an 8’ deck. All the while keep the Lane Shark on the front, adjusted to cut high offset. Meaning we can cut the big lanes AND the trail sides in the same session. The additional benefit of this is..should the high cutting lane Shark knock something significant down into the lane? Just chop it up with the 8’ deck on back. Regards, Marky

Could probably rig one up pretty easy

If you run pressure from. Rear remotes l, I don't see why you couldn't rig something up with a new piston for 3rd function

I'm looking heavy into FEL QA mounted mower. My M9000 has a 21gpm hyd flow but I'd like to run off a remote vs a 3rd function. Do you run off 3rd function or a rear remote.

@@brianmartin6303 We run off the a 3rd function (WR Long) on the front. Which still enables us to use a grapple, which we will need anyway. I don’t know if the Lane Shark offers a rear remote. I think I’ve seen it on smaller tractors however. All you would need to do is reach out. They are very responsive. Even on their YT channel. FYI. Our Massey 4707 if I recall has 17 or 19 GPM. So plenty of flow for the 3rd function. Sounds like you are the same. Why do you want to do the rear remote? Regards, Marky

@@John1911 part of my issue is I have a Quicke Loader with Joy Stick contril and can't find anyone with info on a 3rd Function option. So I'm lazy but might be forced into a off brand 3rd function.

@@brianmartin6303 The Lane Shark uses a control box to activate the unit on and off. Not anything on the joystick. The RPM’s of the unit are obviously controlled by the engine speed - normal hydraulic flow. This is done for two reasons. First is safety. It takes the push of two controller buttons simultaneously to activate the cutter. Not something super simple on the stick. Second, when running the cutter the controller box keeps the flow open. If it didn’t, you would need to hold some button open on the joystick the entire time. Which would get old. But it also would damage the unit when it suddenly shut off the flow if you released it. So when you “turn off” that controller box, the flow valve stays open and the blade free spins down to zero. Much like when you see a helicopter turn off its engine. The blades just don’t lock shut. They free wheel. This free spin is still pushing coolant back to the sump. I suspect this is also why the Lane Shark doesn’t overheat tractors. The only thing you’ll be doing on the joystick is moving the cutter up and down. Not activating it. On or off. 3rd function comment. Lane Shark recommends, and actually now sells a dedicated WR long 3rd function kit. Funny enough, my local massey dealer prefers WR long kits to OEM ones for their features and design. And no, it had nothing to do with the Lane Shark. Not for nothing, but my Massey dealer wouldn’t even touch the Lane Shark or any FEL cutter. They weren’t familiar with it and didn’t want the liability. So we bought the tractor and implements from them. Had it all delivered on property. Then bought the Lane Shark from a LS dealer 100 miles away. They did the controller install on our Massey. (Kubota dealer). Hope this helps. Regards, Marky

I like the way this guy thinks!

would have ended in 1 seriesif only they had this or a skid loader with one hahah...

I share the concern on fluid heat, it does not seem like its been an issue. The mower needs 10gpm or more.

Jake, As long as it's plumbed correctly with the return bypassing the third function valve (how we instruct on the c-flow kits), there will not be any overheating issues. We have plenty customers that run a rear PTO bush hog at the same time. Let us know if we can help with anything! We appreciate your business.

Doesn’t bother our Massey 4707 one bit. And we’ve run it for many hours straight. But it’s a big tractor.

I share that concern. It does not seem like the mower creates that much heat.

LaneShark would say no, because the tractor is not heavy enough to balance the off-set weight. It would work if you kept the mower straight on and did not swing it out to the side.

Did a dealer do your installation? You need a zero pressure return or your going to blow the new motor.

@@MessicksEquip they’re a lane shark dealer but bobcat brand company. They installed a C flow kit to my existing 3rd function. Does that automatically act as a zero pressure return…I guess is what I’m getting at?

@@billbowdoin7541what tractor do you have and what motor did they replace the original one with?

oh yea a deal was made... lawyers made it... lol... you can still buy a lane shark...

@jakeMTSU I bought a TrailBlazer with the powerpack, because I thought it to be superior. Time will only tell on parts, but my Kubota dealer likes their design better. Lane Shark has improved over the years. I really figured the lawyers would make a deal on the Power pack.

Buy it

@@MessicksEquip thanks. I think that’s a good price also. I did find a left over model lane shark LS2 for $4300

We ship.

@Messick's Equipment lol unfortunately I don't have that in my budget right now

Its attached to your loader, so if your not intelligent about how you use it its very possible to throw debris at the operator. Like any mower you need to turn it on\off while its low to the ground, etc. 800-222-3373 opt 1 for sales assistance.

Their kit is quite a lot more complex than just a return line. As long as you're returning to a zero pressure location, you're fine.

No, too small. A sickle bar is the best alternative for a BX.

Yeah I tend to think if a loader has a heavy weight on one side for a while, it will cause stress on the loader it is not designed for. If the mower weighs just say 400kg you’d probably want to have a loader rated at twice or three times that weight to operate it.

I think that a counter balance weight added to the opposite would be a good thing.

Your missing the problem. Once you stop flowing oil though the 3rd function all the hoses are blocked off. The motor is still spinning and needs to dump that oil at a time all the valves are closed.

I think he’s talking about a crossover valve, and I believe it would work in this situation. It allows the fluid from the hydraulic motor to flow in a closed loop at a set pressure, to eliminate the shock of stopping a motor suddenly.

@@lisamstraub Not sure on the reason, but the factory says they have tried that valve and it does not work.

I was looking for that before I commented. It seems like there would be a lot of sharp stubbles just waiting to tale out a tire.

@@lynnmor2101 Exactly.

There are two different Titan's. Titan Attachments is awful China warehouse junk. Titan Implement made this, and recently changed their name to IronCraft because their reputation was getting smeared by Titan Attachments.

@@MessicksEquip good to know thank you

Here it is, sorry! www.messicks.com/attachment/category/36/mowers-rotary-cutters-flex-wings?brand=LaneShark