Metric threading on a old Colchester lathe !! :) lets have a look

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Chris the bodge sculptor

Chris the bodge sculptor

10 жыл бұрын

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@TheStuartYork
@TheStuartYork 8 жыл бұрын
Your student mk 5 takes me back 45 years. It looks to be beautifully restored. It's great to see it still doing good work. I really enjoyed your tutorial thank you. Stuart
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 7 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice work
@Hammerandhilt
@Hammerandhilt 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos Chris, been looking at buying one of these lathes. I like your style just have a go and see what happens.
@patrickdarcy3863
@patrickdarcy3863 2 ай бұрын
Very good, just how I used to do it on my old Colchester. I found a clip that takes the worry out of running into the chuck etc. You can lift the lever out, if you want it let me know, thanks. Patrick
@mrmyford
@mrmyford 10 жыл бұрын
another nice video, I also have a Colchester lathe the same as yours, will have to give it a go, I do most of my work on a myford super 7 and mainly use the Colchester for the big work or the rough jobs as I can take bigger cuts, sure will give the screw cutting a shout on the Colchester keep the videos coming, always look forward to them thanks for sharing Keith in Swindon (mr-myford)
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
hey!, thanks Keith, it was my first attempt to . thread in steel, I had tried a few in ali before lol. to be honest I had been putting off screw cutting on the lathe as it looked complicated ,and by using a die holder I was getting away with it, but you've got to try these things and im glad I did :)
@janvisser2223
@janvisser2223 9 жыл бұрын
You did a nice reconditioning job on your lathe! I have spent many many hours behind the Student Mk1,5, always liked it. With the tool at the end of the thread we were told not to to stop the machine but to flip the reverse lever over and of course back-off the tool from the workpiece in the same move. Worked fine.
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan, the lathes a work in progress when funds allow. You've spent many a hour behind one, was this for your job ?, what sort of things did you make, regards Chris 😊
@janvisser2223
@janvisser2223 9 жыл бұрын
skyrocketpuke Hi Chris, I went to a nautical college in the 70ties to become a marine engineer, a three year course. Turning on the Colchester Student was such a fun that I failed to pass the exam after three years and had to stay another year. I simply missed too many lessons in other subjects as I stayed behind the lathe making parts for friends who were involved in restoring old engines The teacher -who was a toolmaker by trade- did'nt care and began teaching me tips and tricks which I otherwise would never have heard from him during his regular lessons. It proved to be an advantage during my sea going career -11 years- were the lathe was mostly used for repair jobs, making parts that were not avaiable on board, valve spindles, wearrings for centrifugal; pumps that sort of jobs.
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Jan ! Wow great reply, you told your story beautifully it felt like I was there watching you lol, thanks taking the time to reply, kind regards chris
@leighharris1209
@leighharris1209 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris , I'm sure that the student I used was the same as yours and I think it has a mechanical drum brake in the head so even if you have a inverter drive speed controller, it should still work, if not it may need new shoos or adjusting. I've had my bantam for a few years. I use it for odd jobbing in my workshop Don't use it much but its really handy to get me out of trouble now and then. When I'm screw cutting I never disengage the half nut, and I always if possible run into a under cut and use my brake, I find it safer this way. I also have a Alexander milling machine, drill press, grinder, and a home made 7ton hydraulic press in my workshop/ garage... just boys toys really! Keep the good videos coming Chris
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 9 жыл бұрын
A Alexander mill now that is a boys toy ! A decent mill is on my wish list until then it's the crusty Clark drill mill ha ha , thanks for the sub and the reply it's nice to chat with you, chris
@99shujah
@99shujah 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, please help to inform . What gear combination for M1.5 thread of gear train box. i am using T35. T120. T42 originally fitted as i purchased machine form UK. Need help regarding sequence to use. Right now top gear is T35. Which is connected with T120 in the middle and then connected with T42 at the bottom. hope you understand.
@orange12v
@orange12v 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, If memory serves it's clutch lever than you pull up to turn it on & push down to turn off has a brake on it which if you push it down more it stop it turning quicker.
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
hey Dave, lol I wish I had a clutch, but no such luck, I think you can program the inverter for motor braking but its like setting the timer on a dvd player...painful lol
@abdalmomemsalah5058
@abdalmomemsalah5058 2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@abengineering9954
@abengineering9954 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@Micscience
@Micscience 6 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did you feed in the cross slide instead the compound from an angle? From what I learned you are supposed to feed in at a 60 degree angle through the compound but it seems like only the cross slide is moving perpendicular to the work piece. I wonder if it is the thread type that you are cutting which eliminates the compound slide?
@blackbearbowie8162
@blackbearbowie8162 8 ай бұрын
hi Chris, iv got an old colcester studend but my data plate is warn and i cant read it can you do a close up of your data plate so can take a pic of it and please explain how to read it if you could many thanx Steve
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 6 жыл бұрын
Chris, that metric/inch thread selector is unheard of on round head Colchesters here in the US, AFAIK. That lever just turns the lead screw on/off. Could you show us how it works inside? Do you have a manual that shows the parts?
@caskwith
@caskwith 10 жыл бұрын
I'm quite jealous of your lathe there!
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
im jealous of your myford :) subbed to your channel, looking forward to watching your vids
@caskwith
@caskwith 10 жыл бұрын
It's a nice little lathe and it earns it's keep but I wish I had something larger. Several mods have been made to make it more efficient as well. Enjoy the vids that are there, not sure what I will be doing next.
@glenndavis2762
@glenndavis2762 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, that is one hell of a nice lathe.
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
It's quite worn, and all I could afford at the time, and my first "real lathe" my previous lathe being a 30's myford ml4 with plain bearings, what was your first?
@glenndavis2762
@glenndavis2762 10 жыл бұрын
I had a Chinese Grizzy 13" x 36" - It really was quite a nice lathe and learned a lot on it. My current lathe is a 20" x 60" - When I first bought it I took a piece of 6" dia 1018 round by about 4" thick and chucked it up. I then drilled a small pilot hole and drilled it with the biggest taper drill I own (about 2" dia) and was amazed that I could just turn the tailstock wheel and push the drill straight through that solid stock. I remember seeing the smoke billowing up and filling the shop. hahahahha
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
Those Chinese lathes look like they run real smooth, wouldn't mind one maybe a warco for model making
@bigblue1402
@bigblue1402 4 жыл бұрын
Chris. When you cut the metric thread. What was the gear set up in the back cover. Dave in Chorley not far frum thee
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
bigblue1402 hi dave I’ll have a look for you tonight 👍
@markwilliamson1582
@markwilliamson1582 10 жыл бұрын
Hay nice one bud, I would love to cut my own threads, but my viceroy hasn't got it on, but I'm going to try and fit one off another lathe, with a bit of luck, and I hope to make a vid of it ;-)) keep em coming bud, quality!!
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
hi Mark, good luck with your project :)
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 6 жыл бұрын
You could make a metric cap for the thread dial, perhaps. But reversing rotation works well enough, though a long lead screw could be tedious. A paper cut out would do for proof of theory.
@leekennedy9192
@leekennedy9192 7 жыл бұрын
hi what levers did you use for reversing and well basiccally everything on the same lathe as yours my threads never line up
@MrFujack103
@MrFujack103 7 жыл бұрын
Lee Kennedy if you do like he done and revers the lathe and only advance the cutting depth you can't go wrong. Make sure you leave enough travel before cutting to take out any back lash.
@simthespark324
@simthespark324 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, what screw cutting tools/tips do you use? I just got some and they were really expensive was wondering if you got yours cheap but good quality?
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just a cheap 16mm tool holder and bit off eBay the whole thing was about £30 ! I’m still on the same carbide tip that came with it , to be honest I don’t really do much threading on the lathe I mostly use tap and dies , as I don’t go above 12mm that often , but I would look on eBay for a bargain 🙂 otherwise I’d go for Glanze , from chronos engineering
@adamjones3143
@adamjones3143 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was wondering, I can see you are putting it in reverse and feeding backwards not taking a cut, is this to ensure the cut starts in the same places when a cut is applied?
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Jones hi Adam👋 yes that’s correct, you have to do it this way on a old Colchester, even though there is a lever to select metric threads, I read that the lead screw is still imperial so you can’t use the thread dial indicator to pick up the thread like you can when cutting imperial threads ... so if it’s engaged all the time you don’t loose it , one problem though is crashing the tip into the chuck or cutting to far because you can’t control when the lathe stops unless it has a clutch.. or you make a lathe mandrel handle and crank it by hand ... I’m making a handle in the next few weeks 😊 thanks for viewing Chris 🙂
@adamjones3143
@adamjones3143 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor ah great thanks, does this need to be done by using the same.number on the spinning dial by the on/off lever or can it be done in any rotation just as long as it's not disengaged? Sorry for the questions I'm jjsy trying to learn 😂
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Jones yes it doesn’t matter about the number if it’s engaged all the time , the thread dial is only needed on imperial threads on this old machine and try to go for the same number everytime if you can cutting imperial threads ,
@atelierbaumgartner4391
@atelierbaumgartner4391 3 жыл бұрын
hi criss maybee you can help me out. i have a old Colchester Student Lathe. if i want to cut a screw, it dosn't work. i set the lever on c and a ore D and a ore any other configuration. The result will be every time the same. It cuts a pitch of 0.7mm ore less. In the Norton-Grear looks everything fine. Same in the Spindlestockgear and the the 3 Grears to drive the Norton are 42, 120 and 35. i have not disassamembelt the Apron yet. have you got a idea what the Problem can be? Cheers!
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 3 жыл бұрын
Are the C/D etc selector levers working , there should be noticeable speed difference on the sliding feed speeds .. when they are at different settings, I’d imagine not only do they control the feed shaft , but also power to the gearbox , secondly I’d then move the sliding gearbox selection arm to its furthest points left and right and not any speed difference, mabye set up a felt tip pen and a card tube in the chuck to record any difference...
@atelierbaumgartner4391
@atelierbaumgartner4391 3 жыл бұрын
chris the bodge thank you for the inputs. I will test them.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 10 жыл бұрын
Even on my metric Colchester Bantam (6mm pitch leadscrew) I would have to use the same method. You can only disengage the half nuts when cutting threads that divide equally into 6mm ie 1, 1.5, 2, 3 etc not the likes of 2.5. or 4. My lathe does not even have a threading dial. Have come across the "clapper box" threading tool? ATB chris
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
Colchester bantam, now that's a nice machine, what do you use it for chris? hmm... is a clapper box at home on a capstan lathe?
@codprawn
@codprawn 4 жыл бұрын
Just found this great video. I didn't even know the lever had 3 postions. Neutral - imperial and metric. Mine was too dirty to tell. It works great in neutral and imperial but I just can't select metric with it. Any ideas?
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
codprawn pop the cover and see if the dog clutch arrangement is in-gauging, sometimes it’s really dirty in there and a oil change may be needed .
@codprawn
@codprawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor The oil looks clean through the sight glass but I will give it a go. It feels like there is something solid blocking it. As if that position has been deleted although the lathe is supposed to do metric and Imperial. Keep up the good work your videos are great!
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
codprawn I had the top plate off so you can see what’s happening, on mine you sometimes have to wiggle the the chuck to and throw to engage...kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7JdnNGLxrTRcmg.html
@codprawn
@codprawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor Took the cover off. The oil is spotless but drained it anyway. I used exactly the same oil you did - bought it ages ago - great minds eh? Nothing wrong at all. In fact I don't think the gearbox has even been run in yet! Do you change these gears under power? I didn't like to. Turn the chuck by hand - there are only 2 places the metric one will engage. Got to feel it in. Under power would be easy I suppose. Thanks again for all your help!
@codprawn
@codprawn 4 жыл бұрын
ISO68 oil sorry - another video of yours. My Triumph takes 2.5L in there.
@HEERASWEET8
@HEERASWEET8 4 жыл бұрын
Dear please share a video the break system of this machine I can't understand break system
@thorweldinginnovations6167
@thorweldinginnovations6167 4 жыл бұрын
Engaging the leadscrew lever into the metric setting you make it look very easy but the reality is that the lever can hardly ever simply be engaged without turning the leadscrew to link up the dogs on the inside. Your experience show though that without the metric indicator dial this setting is useless.
@glenndavis2762
@glenndavis2762 10 жыл бұрын
That's one heavy cut for those laydown inserts, just say'n bro :)
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
Interesting, what's a laydown insert , is it a over the pond expression Glenn? And how much should one advance per cut? Kind regards Chris
@glenndavis2762
@glenndavis2762 10 жыл бұрын
Yea, those inserts lay down flat (like normal inserts) vs. the ones that stand up 90 degrees to those. They tend to be known as a weaker insert. When the thread has progressed and getting into the full cut, I'll back off a bit and only take a couple thou. I'm no expert by far, but that's just my experience. Do I need to send you a bottle of dark sulfur cutting oil? :) I take regular old small soup cans and an acid brush and put one at each machine. Fill it with the sulfur cutting fluid and mix in about 20% WD40 - works really good. Lube is good, obviously because it lubricates, but more so it keeps the tool cool (and a bonus, it takes some heat out of the work so you can get more accurate dimensions)
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting, I'll back off on the final cuts, dark sulfur cutting oil is that like low fume stuff? I do have about four kilo of sulphur powder in workshop b from my rocket making days, could I mix some up lol, Chris
@ronnieg6358
@ronnieg6358 3 жыл бұрын
So instead of disengaging the lead screw, you have to reverse the lathe right?
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 3 жыл бұрын
Yes reverse the lathe , since then I’ve made a spindle handle to turn by hand , you can find it on my lathe playlist
@ronnieg6358
@ronnieg6358 3 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor Thanks for your help. I'm new to lathe work and am currently following an auction for a round top Colchester Student lathe like yours. Hope I'm successful!
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronnieg6358 👍🙂 good luck 🤞 hope you get it , not a expert myself... just messing around in the garage!
@ronnieg6358
@ronnieg6358 3 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor Me too, just fascinated with machinery.
@rljzathras
@rljzathras 10 жыл бұрын
I especially like the obvious delay in the carriage movement as you reverse direction each time. Clearly shows the backlash in the chain of gears running the leadscrew and half nut.
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Ray !, yep the old girl is worn, plenty of backlash on all moving parts, and groans/ rumbles on start up, lol
@rljzathras
@rljzathras 10 жыл бұрын
skyrocketpuke Nothing wrong with the backlash - it is essential if you don't want to grind your gears to dust :-) But it does show why you need to go well beyond the entry point for everything to take up the required slack.
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could have believe the eye which is marked up M20 !
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
pmailkeey good point! 😀
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor Had to check the bloody book about leaving the leadscrew half-nut engaged for metric threads. What a pain ! Just hope I never come across any ;)
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor
@chris-the-bodge-sculptor 4 жыл бұрын
pmailkeey same here ! Most of mine are done with taps/ dies unless is a big one , one of my next jobs is to make a spindle handle do I can cut threads by hand, it’s hard work it crashing in the chuck without a clutch 🙄
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris-the-bodge-sculptor Select neutral - by placing the front spindle gear lever straight up. Then you're not having to turn much of the gearing and motor. Have you looked at the brake failure ? Likely just needs adjusting. Take left hand (changewheels) cover off - the brake is in the top belt pulley. We don't have a brake but the clutch option - that's easy to adjust without tools. It may just be a matter of altering the length of the actuation rod - long screw with a locknut type setup.
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 6 жыл бұрын
How to make a thread dial indicator for a Myford. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpt4fsyTqaudXWg.html
@davidwillard7334
@davidwillard7334 3 жыл бұрын
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