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This is a rare glimpse of Michael and I working on a track. For us, crafting a drum part for a song is a collaborative process. It rarely takes long to get it, but there are a lot of stops and starts. We're just vibing and figuring out what the best fits the tune. The snare was brad smith's hand hammered 5X14 ludwig black beauty - we nicknamed it "the winner" because it most always won the snare shootout.