Honeycomb yoke is the sweetspot for sure.

Loving the amount of videos, especially with Austin!

Please please please continue making these videos! They are extremely useful and informative!

Very good review. You can see the passion you guys have for flight simulation. X Plane may not have the biggest budget, but they love what they're doing.

2 of the most important things. Smooth operation and function. It's harder to enjoy and to learn if certain things aren't accurate. I really do believe if software engineers and the manufacturers get closer to the fine detail, which is so close nowadays, you will see a great product combo. I run FSX, P3D, and Xplane 11. The sim most used...? Xplane 11. 2 reasons. More realistic feeling, and the creator...Austin, who has passion about his work... non stop and personal, hands on explanation and exploration. That is a product worth investing in! Thanks Michael for this channel and all the hard work. It's appreciated!👍🛩

Still waiting for my Honeycomb (in the UK), but it is good to hear good reports on what it offers. Thanks for the update.

Great review and insights Micheal...thank you.

Nice job on this one Michael.... Looking forward to the Brünner review.... I think it will blow you away.

Would love to see a video on how you set these yokes up in X-Plane, in particular how you setup the control sensitivity for these yokes. Thanks!

Everyone always forgets about the CH yoke which comes with a throttle. That is an affordable yoke that covers everything for the budget. And I like it far better than the Logitech... Feels better, lasts longer. Used mine for 20+ years

Thank you so much for this! By chance, could anyone tell me the monitor he's using? Looks pretty sweet.

I am a Phenom 300 real pilot im Brazil and a I have Logitech and it’s really difficult to use in pitch but with some flights you get it. I am happy with my Logitech. Thank for your videos.

Saitek throttle isn’t bad when new, try it after a year of regular use

Any suggestion on a throttle quadrant for the Honeycomb yoke till they release theirs? I have a Logitech but it's not compatible. It uses a circular DIN plug.

You always provide such great info. I have an older PFC/MFD sim that I am about to update to USB. It is no longer supported by Precision Flight Control (drivers, X-plane 11). I will have plenty of room in a single car garage and am working on sufficient power, computers (two PC towers) and monitors. Thanks for your videos. Any additional pointers or recommendations appreciated.

Would you advise a physical setup with yoke and controls and panel or a VR setup? I bounce between trying to a stitched image with two projectors or doing a setup similar what you have or going VR with oculus. What are thoughts on 2020 MS sim? I'd like to build a system they could run it as it looks amazing in the previews thus far.

I am using all CH gear: yoke, pedals, throttle quadrant. bought everything used. Each was around 50€. I believe that is the way to go when you really want to safe money or are just starting to get into flight sims like me and are not sure how long you will do it. I would be interested how you compare the CH products against Logitech. Thx.

Thanks for this review...

Thank you for the video, this helped me a lot! Do you have a video for throttles and rudders as well? I am having the hardest time selecting an affordable throttle and deciding if I need to spend a lot more to get something better than Logitech's rudder.

been waiting for a review of this and release

Awesome video, Mike! I know everyone would like to see more videos with Austin but I enjoy these type of videos too!

The YOKO is incredibly overpriced in my opinion. Should be like $500 max. They simply take advantage of the fact that hard core simmers have money and don't hesitate to spend it.

I am curious about your table. It looks like a simple foldup one. In any case, what type is it and is it stable? It doesn't seem to rock when you push or pull on the yoke, I problem I have.

You do not understand how much I am anticipating the honeycomb. I already have the throttle quadrant on pre order.

I have this yoke it has a slight roll axis deadzone. But a good product overall.

I didn't notice you mention the fact that the Honeycomb supports Logitech add-on avionics panels, so I thought I'd mention that it does

I don't like desktop mount. I need the space. I purchased a Wheelstand Pro for m Saitek yoke. Is the Honeycomb, out of the box, capable of being mounted to the Wheelstand Pro?

I think the best value is Saitek Cessna yoke. You get 90 degree angle and it doesn’t have hard centre - even pitch axes is much smoother.

From what I'm hearing the Honeycomb is fine maybe even great for GA aircraft. However on a Boeing jetliner it is unclear what to map them to or even if they can be mapped. So I would like to see a review from someone who flys a Boeing.

Good review. Bear in mind the Saitek/Logitech yoke has a significant dead zone on both pitch and roll axes, which cannot be eliminated with a joystick calibrator. The other two (as I understand) do not have the dead zone. Logitech, for some reason, sees the dead zone as a feature and refuses to do anything about it. If you are willing to do a bit of Frankenstein, you can add a BU0836A device to eliminate the dead zone.

can you combine the honeycomb stick with the seperate instrument displays of saitek ?

I just got the alpha and I had the lodgetek for years and going to the honeycomb was a huge difference for the better

With the logitechs stuttery pitch axis would it be potentially helpful to throw some grease on the shaft to help with that? And does it return to the 0 position accurately?

That is a very well explained item by item presentation, therefore it was incredibly useful. Thank you.

Hi, can you let me know what monitor are you using?

Where can I , buy the honey yoke.

Can you use a thrustmaster TM1600 throttle with the honeycomb yoke?

Hi what type of computer would I need? Wht processor, memory or graphics required? Could you recommend a computer from Amazon that already meets those parameters

When using the Honeycomb do you use F2 for throttle cos there aint no throttle lever to use.???

Yes Yoko !

Maybe a stupid question..... will the Honeycomb work with the other accessories from Logitech for example the Logitech G Saiten Pro Flight Instrument Panel?

Hi Michael. I am a GA pilot having logged close to 2K hours in low wing a/c. I currently have a CH products control yoke to augment my IFR currency but have a difficult time landing the Cherokee 180 (A2A Simulations)..gets very sloppy close to the flair and more often than not I end up porpoising and using up the entire runway. It never dawned on me that the problem may be the cheap yoke. Would there be a noticeable difference upgrading to Honeycomb and is it compatible with CH Products quadrant?

Thanks I have my honeycomb pre-order I'm going to keep my Logitech for the guys to fly with me

Brunner yoke review please.

$1000 for a yoke is outrageous for being within spitting distance of a $250 yoke

Thank you for this demonstration. I got xplane a few months ago, I was on P3D. My computer is a proc-intel i9-9900k motherboard Asus XI HERO, video card nvidia RTX 2080, Windows10 Pro. I have Saitek products for several years (FSX) Pro yoke flight, rudder pedals, throttle quadrant (6 controllers) all that works very well but in terms of switch panel, multi-panel and radio panel is a problem (with driver or without) the computer recognizes them but not xplane. It is fine new equipment but we should be able to cotinuer with older products. Thanks for reading me !

I have the Logitech yoke. I would love to have the honeycomb yoke.

Hi Michael I was looking at your videos on how to connect the g1000 bezel to x plane. I got x plane 11 and I am having problems connecting thoes bezels. the problem I am having is this excutive file you said that x plane downloads I dont know where to find that file. you talk about it but you didnt say where you find it. can you please help me? and if other people are seeing this file can ull help me out with connecting this g1000? thanks in advance

Hello Michael, From the pictures I got the impression, the steel axis of the Honeycomb yoke is rather thin. Can you say something about the to be expected vulnerability of the axis?

i dont understand why they dont put electric feedback like they do in steering wheels

Can I use the Logitech throttle and rudder pedals with the Honeycomb yoke on Xplane 11??

Honeycomb yoke is covered in that very nice looking matt rubberised finish. However, after a number a few years that finish is likely to self-destruct and become a horrendous sticky mess. The Logitech can be easily modified to remove those hard detent springs and replaced with rubber bands. If it were not for that ticking bomb finish I'd have spent more on the Honeycomb, but knowing what's coming I won't buy one. I have too many sticky black joysticks and electronic items already.

I'm pretty sure that you have a faulty LG Yoke there mate because mine has no 'sticky' areas of travel, not one - although I did use some silicone spray on the shaft from day 1 as it was dry (metal to plastic will always grab). The radius is of concern but most people just don't care, me included. Honestly, my yoke is smooth and accurate, so I'm thinking it's a batch issue as mine is not that old - it works as intended (I prefer HOTAS any day but decided on the LG desktop cockpit). But that honeycomb just looks wrong, way too glary with some kind of trade-mark glow and 'honeycomb' dash, which looks awful. And I also don't like the thickness of that shaft, which will become a problem with time I'm sure. And it's bulky, very odd shaped and hard to use with other gear, unlike the LG that can have multiple panels/gauges screwed to the top. So that was my thoughts on why I'm giving the Honeycomb a big miss and will wait for something better as my replacement yoke down the track. Blue Skies.

I put this comment on a similar video, but I think it is worth repeating. None of these yokes ever properly simulate actual trim settings. In order to do that a motor must move the center of the spring rather than unnaturally moving the yoke to center while simultaneously trimming. Simmers get used to that but it would be nice to do it for real. I modified a yoke years ago by adding a screw that moved the yoke center spring for real trim. Remember, on a real plane elevator trim reduces the force on the yoke but you do not move the yoke to do that. Even better would be a yoke that changed the spring force with airspeed. Oh well.

Thanks Michael, but if you are doing a comparison of all three you really do need to get a ruler out (and ideally a spring balance too) as otherwise it's too sujective.

well, the the saitek yoke comes with a throttle quadrant, so the honeycomb is not cheaper in terms price

When is 11.40 gonna be released?

I prefer my good old ch flight yoke and pro pedals. These have resistance in both roll and pitch axes. It is good price and reliable. I would complement it with an honeycomb throttle quadrant

When I put my simulator together, I had no idea 💡 That I could get a honeycomb and a Yoko seemed like a lot of money 💰 for the difference in what you got. Having flown the Logitech for a while now I probably would spring for the Honeycomb with switches rather than the Logitech and switch panel I have now. But that’s old news and I love 💕 flying X-Plane even if I had to do it on a bucket with a broomstick 🧹

The yoko is actually 60 degress, not 45 :)

Aerosoft states on the website that the Pitch Axis of the HoneyComb has 15cm of travel. Yoko in their website states that it has 14,4cm of travel. You say that the Honey comb has 50%-75% the travel of a Yoko, i don't understand.

Are you going to do a MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2020 review? 8)

I think Honeycomb wins because of the price!

Hi just wondering I have a i7 9700k, should I get a gtx 1080ti or rtx 2070 to run X-Plane better? And how much FPS will I have

no mention of how they translate the force feedback, if i am spending money on something i want to see how it is with this. It's like comparing logitech to thrustmaster and fanatec in the racing world - all about the fidelity.

YoKo Yoke hands down, you gotta fly with it to understand. If I couldn't afford the YoKo I'd consider the Honeycomb but truthfully, I don't like switches on my yokes, they just get in the way.

Please do a video on the Cessna 172 not stalling on xplane. Thanks

Michael... When Austin evaluated the Honeycomb, there wasn't any resistance until it was matched to a plane first.

I want

Update $280 now for the Honeycomb hardware

I borrowed a Logitech quadrant once. Idk it was made of plastic; I broke the thing in a week. It was too fragile.

how about video on software that come with it

Why is the Saitek (Logitech) Cessna Yoke never considered? Mine has no detent and turns 90 degrees and is very smooth in operation. I do not like the button placement but that is personal so I rarely am inspired to use it.

Kelsey is a REAL 747 pilot. check out his channel at 74 GEAR . He chose the Honeycomb for the most realistic. That's what he uses and that's what he said is very close to the way it really works. This video here was made in 2019 I see. so a year and half have passed, so check out Kelsey on this 74 Gear. he has used both Microsoft simulator and X PLANE.

Logitech’s throttle that comes with is terrible. Failed less than a year of use. Had to play with the wire until it failed 100%

The logitech (ex-Saitek) is just cancer. Mine was off center right out of the box.

michael i love you bro but we require austin at all times.

The Honeycomb is about twice as much as you say..

It's a bit misleading going on manufacturer's Recommended Retail prices. The Logitech is often discounted but the Honeycomb is never discounted by much. When you use realistic prices, the Honeycomb is nearly three times more expensive than the Logitech and the Logitech includes a decent throttle as well

I appreciate the comparison. I wish you prepared more for the video. You could have used a travel scale to measure the resistance on the axis, also got the specs on the travel etc...

I have no money. 😭

9:29 Conclusions.

How can you not have 90° left and right. That's one black mark on the Yoko and it seems that the $1,000 price point for Yoko is not great value.

@11:30 when you are talking about the very best what about the Brunner Yoke www.brunner-innovation.swiss/product/cls-e-yoke/ - how about a comparison of Yoko v Brunner ?

Watch Austin Meyer from XPlane take a proper look at the Yoko here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5qRm9Vyrr65n5s.html

Force feedback is a must, I won't buy any yoke that doesn't have FFB.

I was impressed with the honesty of Austin’s review which included the great feel of the Yoko but the horrible switches. The fact that you left the Yoko switches out of your review makes it feel as a viewer like you have been asked to do so by Yoko.

The honeycomb does not have bungie chords it has ball bearings.

Saitek/Logitech throttles are rubbish...after about a year of use.... I have had to rewire my ones 3 times so far to stop the spiking which made me give up flight sims due to the spiking issues. The pots Saitek/Logitech use you can not get unless you buy them in lots of a 1000 of them as they are a custom type. If I had a 3d printer I would use it and design a better quadrant and use readily available pots and just use the Saitek/Logitech boards. So I am going to go for the Honeycomb yoke and throttle and get back in to flight simming again. At least Honeycomb have a 5 yr warranty on their stuff.

"He mean Lexus but he ain't know it"'

For the person that has no money this guy lol 😂

YOKO specs are 60 degrees for aileron deflection and 144mm or 5.7" for elevator deflection. Yoko increases resistance on roll to simulate increased force on control surfaces in real world. Real world pilots don't yank and bank the yoke with 90 degree deflections. Hence resistance is essential to emulate real aircraft feel. Your conclusion is correct. The Yoko is worth every penny. My rig is used for real world training support.

I'm going to just come right out and say it: I'm in love with Michael Brown and I want to touch his yoke. I want to grab his yoke and pull back on it, maybe even push it in. I want to roll that yoke back and forth in my hands until he tells me to stop. Wait - OMG he has TWO yokes???? Heaven. Hold all my calls.

Why are you comparing the Yoko to either of the Honeycomb and Saitek? There is a reason the Yoko is $1000.00 and the others are around $200.00.

IMO the Logitech is just a poor value, if you cannot afford anything better get a high quality joystick instead, you can get T16000M for less money and it is much better product that will make flying a lot more enjoyable.

Logitech is the best because: You pay far less money and you can fix it´s 2 problems in about 1 hours all together for extra 25 pounds. You can fix the physical issues modding the "spring" system and you can add the board mod and wire the axis to kill the dead zone. Then you get the mixture and powers, you can replace the handles for custom made ones to make it feel more premium :)

Please, stopo making video about yokes !!!