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Michael Horn

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► Chapters:
00:00 - Gnome vs KDE Plasma
00:35 - Gnome 46
04:11 - Some negative things
05:08 - KDE Plasma 6
07:08 - Things that KDE could improve...
08:17 - Are they the same?
08:50 - Which one do I choose?
10:08 - Conclusion
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#linux #gnome46 #kdeplasma6

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@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Quite a lot are asking for the Meta - Overview Bind. You can do it with this command: kwriteconfig5 --file kwinrc --group ModifierOnlyShortcuts --key Meta "org.kde.kglobalaccel,/component/kwin,,invokeShortcut,Cycle Overview" This command edits the ~/.config/kwinrc file. Make sure to reboot after setting in. I'm not sure if you can reload it without an additional dependency in Plasma 6
@necessarypaint7669
@necessarypaint7669 Ай бұрын
qdbus org.kde.KWin /KWin reconfigure
@TheIncoom
@TheIncoom Ай бұрын
Couldn find this command for like 3 days. Thank you so much
@jthoward
@jthoward Ай бұрын
FYI for everyone I believe you will be able to do this in the GUI starting with 6.1
@TheIncoom
@TheIncoom Ай бұрын
Btw, if you are using Plasma 6, you should write kwriteconfig6 instead of kwriteconfig5
@KARUNANGGA
@KARUNANGGA 28 күн бұрын
now how do we revert it?🥲
@StarlordStavanger
@StarlordStavanger 2 ай бұрын
it doesn't matter, use whatever works for you, there is no wrong answer, it's your computer after all so enjoy it
@skelebro9999
@skelebro9999 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone understood
@wassim-akkari
@wassim-akkari 2 ай бұрын
Nah he should use what I'm using. both 😊
@Benito650
@Benito650 2 ай бұрын
it's not yours when microsoft steal all your data.
@chrisxdeboy
@chrisxdeboy 2 ай бұрын
You can simulate a GNOME UI in KDE, but not the other way around.
@charliegolf2730
@charliegolf2730 2 ай бұрын
No everyone should use the DE I use because it's much better! /s Jokes aside, use whatever you prefer, there is no global right answer, and even if one is "better" than another, that does not mean it's better for you.
@Daniel-wn5ye
@Daniel-wn5ye 2 ай бұрын
I prefer KDE Plasma 6 as it comes with a traditional Windows-like layout and behavior by default. I can put shortcuts on the Desktop to programs, games, folders and files. I can customize it exactly how I want it. It has the must have for me, HDR support. It has developers that listen to my problems and needs.
@AllThruSmartphone
@AllThruSmartphone Ай бұрын
Using Plasma for last 5 years as daily driver... The development team behind it are doing really great work...
@xperience-evolution
@xperience-evolution 2 ай бұрын
Vanilla Gnome for me. Love to have pretty much nothing on my Desktop and have simple settings and Menus. But on Linux every one can choose whatever they prefer and whatever you like is best for you.
@byquanton
@byquanton 2 ай бұрын
Gnome 44 was also very stable for me. In Gnome 45 a bug got introduced that (sometimes) lets the whole session crash if a lot of my video memory is used.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. Gnome 45 was fine for me 🤔
@FengLengshun
@FengLengshun 2 ай бұрын
GNOME has often crashed for me on my old hardware. The likelihood increases with more extensions, so ultimately it's a no-go as I do need at least a few to not make GNOME gets in the way of me using my computer.
@n.m4497
@n.m4497 2 ай бұрын
Has it been resolved?
@n.m4497
@n.m4497 2 ай бұрын
​@@FengLengshunGnome is pretty solid and hard to make crash. It could be a Hardware problem in your PC
@FengLengshun
@FengLengshun 2 ай бұрын
@@n.m4497 it has happened both on my Lenovo G40-80 and my PC both running AMD. GNOME is solid but it's not flawless, especially if you deviate from the "ideal GNOME usage". PopOS implementation I recall being particularly crash-prone and idk if it's still the case but having both dash-to-dock and dash-to-panel would often cause issues. GNOME with extensions is frankly worse than KDE with Latte Docks. Even when I was being pretty vanilla on VanillaOS, there was some weird maximizing bug where maximizing stretches the screen over the two screens which is especially bad because my second screen is 768p so a lot of the window is cut off. I had to manually resize the window again so that it's barely not maximized.
@raulgrangeiro
@raulgrangeiro 2 ай бұрын
I just liked Gnome 46; Still waiting for the release of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS with it.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Gnome 46 is also a huge step forward
@user-sm1jp4en9u
@user-sm1jp4en9u Ай бұрын
Your desktop specs ?
@raulgrangeiro
@raulgrangeiro Ай бұрын
@@user-sm1jp4en9u it's a notebook. Ryzen 7 5700U, 8GB RAM
@terminallyonline5296
@terminallyonline5296 2 ай бұрын
Workspace switching with the scroll wheel in the Overview is a really good point. I hope Plasma dev are able to see this or I hope there's an open issue about that.
@MaisistkeinGemuese
@MaisistkeinGemuese 2 ай бұрын
Michael, you really threw me off with this Video! I was a comfy Gnome User because KDE never felt polished to me. Yesterday I created a Fedora 40 KDE Live USB and immediately fell in Love. KDE feels so much more mature with its latest release.
@jeffreydurham2566
@jeffreydurham2566 Ай бұрын
I tend to like Gnome better on my laptop, but KDE better on the desktop.
@ellef9331
@ellef9331 2 ай бұрын
Ouch... Just set up a new install on my notebook and decided to switch to KDE due to VRR and better support for ext. monitors. The UX is really hard to get used to, though, since KDE always tends to go tiny with its UI, cramping a lot of buttons and controls into not that much of space. I really like the simplicity and intuitively approach of GNOME where features are just in the right place for a fast and trouble free workflow. Now, GNOME finally managed to add VRR. That's really surprising considering the slow progression of that feature in the support threads. And like you already mentioned, it is still probably not ranked that high on their priority list. Still makes me feel like I should hop back and hope for the best. KDE doesn't feel right to me, even when customized. The philosophy is just not the same. But the feature support ... The drama is continuing. 😭
@FengLengshun
@FengLengshun 2 ай бұрын
You could always add spacers and change the size of stuff in KDE panels and apps.
@Dudik28
@Dudik28 2 ай бұрын
@@FengLengshun Yeah but why should I do it it everything is perfectly pre made in Gnome
@FengLengshun
@FengLengshun 2 ай бұрын
@@Dudik28 No one says you have to do anything. The guy was having a dilemma, and I'm just pointing to some solutions because I *do* know that KDE can be a bit bad with exposing some options. People should use whatever fits their usecase best. GNOME just doesn't fit me, and others. I've tried it, multiple times in multiple forms. Barebones GNOME doesn't work for me- but adding extensions can outright makes them more unstable than KDE with Latte Docks. Therefore, it's a valid solution to customize KDE if you have things from KDE you want, but the main blocker is just the default UX of KDE.
@MrLittleW
@MrLittleW 2 ай бұрын
The biggest reason I use Plasma is fractional scaling is far more consistent. For my 32" 4k monitor I have to use 150% scaling. At that scaling factor, all apps on Plasma look just the right size. On Gnome, all Gnome apps and the shell are WAY TOO BIG, but that's the only way to make non-Gnome apps usable.
@yorimirus
@yorimirus 2 ай бұрын
GNOME sounds pretty good. Now that fractional scaling looks much better, once VRR becomes stable, maybe I should give it a try. I'm mostly a KDE and Cinnamon user.
@Enraiful
@Enraiful 2 ай бұрын
Love your content. Gnome is slowly becoming better than stock macOS for me, give me DRM Lease, VRR, Fractional Scaling and that's it. Libadwaita and GTK4 were game changers, the beta of Geary is awesome, Podman, PtyXis, and now they're also working on a proper Nautilus filepicker... honestly amazed at where we are. The sovereign tech fund was a big boost too.
@raphaelkyembe4407
@raphaelkyembe4407 2 ай бұрын
Both are great DEs in their own way built for different users
@michadybczak4862
@michadybczak4862 2 ай бұрын
I love the new overlook in Plasma, but it's still a bit stuttering when not used long or when there are more windows. However, Nate knows that, so I'm confident it will be fixed eventually, but it's not certain when.
@AhmadMughal1
@AhmadMughal1 2 ай бұрын
I have used KDE for 2 years and have been using GNOME for 1 and half year. The latest 46 release introduced a lot of bugs for me on GNOME so i have switched back to KDE and surprisingly everything works perfect.
@rokonection369
@rokonection369 Ай бұрын
Muy buen análisis , gracias
@nlogozzo
@nlogozzo 2 ай бұрын
Denaro developer here...cool to see you using the app!
@Pirxel
@Pirxel 2 ай бұрын
haha yes, I've been having basically the same journey, generally a gnome fan, but back again at kde just because it seems to work much better overall right now
@mateomarinucci
@mateomarinucci 2 ай бұрын
nice video, as always. for my gnome workflow its just superior. besides that, where did you got that wallpaper?
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Everything is from the KDE store
@lofgren007
@lofgren007 29 күн бұрын
Hey Michael, enjoying your vids. I have always been a GNOME guy too when using linux, so appreciate the comparison and the detail. It inspired me to try Fedora 40.
@Its-Just-Zip
@Its-Just-Zip 2 ай бұрын
Gnome 46 fixed some of the long-standing issues I had with gnome and I'm quite excited for My laptop to be upgraded to Fedora 40 Im probably going to continue using KDE on my desktop though and I've also excited for that to get an upgraded to Fedora 40.
@jesse7631
@jesse7631 Ай бұрын
I feel the same way Michael. I really love the improvements in KDE Plasma 6, but I find that Gnome is still the one I default to. Great video!
@theworldoffun8997
@theworldoffun8997 2 ай бұрын
I used KDE 5.27 and it has driven me crazy with touchpad gestures, like pinch to overview and fractional scaling to 175% from 2880*1800 was not as good as on gnome(surprisingly) because of little white lines on the bottom and on the left sides. KDE 6 made touchpad gestures good, but white lines remain in there. And gnome not only works better in a more logical way for ME, but it also gives me unique experience in how it looks and behaves.
@faustom_1974
@faustom_1974 3 күн бұрын
I used KDE Plasma for three years and was always happy with the freedom it provided. Unfortunately, with the release of version 6, things have gotten worse, and some issues forced me to switch back to Gnome 46. In fact, I see exponential improvements in Gnome, such as stability and smoothness in switching between windows and many other aspects. I hope to return to KDE one day, but for now, Gnome is my favorite DE.
@rhalloff
@rhalloff 2 ай бұрын
Hey Michael, I really enjoyed your comparison of the DE’s. I haven’t seen anyone else provide the coverage of the two in this way. Great job! I’ve been using plasma 5 in MX23.2 and have really been enjoying it. I’ll wait until it’s available on MX before I switch to Plasma 6 though.
@chanukanadun
@chanukanadun 6 күн бұрын
Need a video about full Gnome 46 man. Did they fix the previous issues? Scaling features etc.
@FengLengshun
@FengLengshun 2 ай бұрын
For mouse-based workspace switching, I'm used to using the Workspace widget for switching with mouse wheels ngl. Even now that there is a new widget that allows actions when clicking, dragging, and scrolling on the panel, I still reflexively goes to the Workspace widget (when I'm on mouse anyways, touchpad it's just a gesture). Also, the latest KDE update from Nate said that they've implemented single-key shortcut modification- so you can now edit what the Meta button does directly from setting menu instead of editing kwinrc manually. Btw, if you use 4 workspaces, maybe you can divide it 2 rows? I do that for all my devices and it works great with grid view and the workspace widget.
@alphaomega154
@alphaomega154 2 ай бұрын
that workspace maneuver with the KDE is looking great. i think i will try KDE soon.
@Uvbnn
@Uvbnn Ай бұрын
Ohh man Gnome 46 is just perfect i enjoying the "current folder search" feature
@robertobs30
@robertobs30 2 ай бұрын
i just installed gnome like a month ago, maaan its just wonderful i hope gnome gets more customization and settings out of the box, or kde or the community will get the gnome experience and workflow right this time
@Quirum_no1
@Quirum_no1 2 ай бұрын
What's the name of your wallpaper? It's beautiful!
@sandrodellisanti1139
@sandrodellisanti1139 Ай бұрын
Ciao, the last Version of Gnome, which i personally liked was Gnome 2 back then in 2003, but i'm more into KDE since Version 2, so many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
@OraOraOra
@OraOraOra 2 ай бұрын
Such a relatable video! Thanks for sharing! Hey I also make heavy use out of Flatpaks, how do you deal with the theming inconsistencies on KDE? Becuase Flatpaks heavily prefer GTK imo.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
If a GTK theme exists with my current QT one, then I'll use that. Otherwise just the default one. I'm not that picky when it comes to GTK
@draugr7693
@draugr7693 2 ай бұрын
I personally prefer to use Mate cos it's just a nice lightweight desktop that feels really fast and responsive although i always remove the bottom panel and replace the default menu with the advanced menu cos it just makes it look and feel a bit more modern.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Mate users are really rare nowadays. Nice to see that some still use it
@appsaucetech
@appsaucetech Ай бұрын
Modern mate runs really well on my 11 year old chromebook surprisingly. Waiting for cosmic to release and then I'll switch to it. Looks like gnome while being lighter (I get that gnome uses resources very efficiently, however they do not account the fact that some devices do not have those resources in the first place.) Love the look of gnome on my other laptop, however mutter is plagued with issues such as screen flickering when igpu is under load so I use plasma on both my laptop and PC. Will be switching to cosmic on both
@TomHenryCoursow
@TomHenryCoursow Ай бұрын
Is it now easy to bind the overview to just the super key in plasma? Previously I had to bind it via terminal and it also did not work well with some remote screen applications.
@BiserAngelov1
@BiserAngelov1 Ай бұрын
My solution was to install both. On a separate (rolling-release) distribution installations. ALT Linux with Gnome 46 and Arch Linux with Plasma 6. One is GTK apps and Flatpak, the other is QT apps and AUR. Best of both worlds.
@miika35476
@miika35476 2 ай бұрын
how did you bind overview ja gridview to meta key in plasma? that's a feature I'm missing from gnome also.
@NicholasDembytsky
@NicholasDembytsky 2 ай бұрын
Since version 40 of GNOME there is a problem with usb ports, GNOME stops seeing or loses connection with an external hard drive. This bug is still present in version 46. KDE Plasma doesn't have this problem, so being a Gnome fanboy, I switched to KDE Plasma. But still, Gnome has great solutions that work great and are implemented much better than KDE Plasma, namely, gnome-online-accounts for gnome-calendar and geary.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
That sounds more like a backend issue with the Kernel honestly. Gnome is just a frontend that taps into a certain piece of software that's responsible for mounting the drive. Maybe Plasma uses a different solution, but I'm not aware of any major issues
@StraussBR
@StraussBR Ай бұрын
After a looong time I relied on the minimalist but solid XFCE DE, I been using gnome and becoming accustomed to it, I do have multiple monitors and Wayland has improved indeed, but because of a mix of driver/App support for Wayland I am still using X for the time being but not for long it seems like
@jthoward
@jthoward Ай бұрын
Man I haven’t tried GNOME in such a long time, last time I used it was when I was still on Ubuntu (16 or 18 I think). But I may have to give it a spin to see if it scratches some of the itches that KDE does
@chrissvn
@chrissvn Ай бұрын
Was someone able to find that wallpaper? I've been browsing through lots of pages and was unable to find it :(
@mtpolak
@mtpolak Ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for your rational voice! I also don't like the Plasma Panel absence on Overview/Grid. Talking (plasma devs) that it's technical impossibility is very weak.. Especially that the Overview effect and a panel was lately rewritten by the same person (Nicco) But as a consolation check Karousel Kwin script. Definitely worth trying! 8)
@s9209122222
@s9209122222 Ай бұрын
I hope that we can see drastic progress of HDR implementation on Gnome.
@hotrodjones74
@hotrodjones74 2 ай бұрын
Any Linux Desktop Environment is more powerful than Microsoft Windows or MacOS. I recently moved from Pop!_OS to Tuxedo OS with KDE 5.27. We'll be on 6 soon enough. I'm finally using my laptop's dedicated distro after years of using Ubuntu and Pop!_OS. Tuxedo is hard to beat if you want a Linux laptop. We're finally getting to a place where our DEs are competing with each other and building up off each other. So much that Windows is copying our homework . LOL
@harshborana
@harshborana 2 ай бұрын
Try , nix or gentoo , they are great , in nixos you can create an reproducible system , if you decide to move or have an diffrent laptop just copy those files into that and rebuild the system and boom same exact replica of the main system , for gentoo you have to build every apps and this leads to less bloated system
@davemeech
@davemeech Ай бұрын
I'm eventually going to summon the bravery to create a linux partition again soon. I predominately used KDE but just attempting to have the same taskbar on all monitors was a profound pain. I say this like a true Windows user. Perhaps i just want to haveca windows like desktop experience to start with and branch out and explore other workflows from there. Gnome was too jarring a departure to start with, butbperhaps after diving into macos through work for the oast couple of years it may be less so.
@kbaeve
@kbaeve 2 ай бұрын
Wish there was a way to run both Gnome and KDE without screwing with each others configs.
@simonetubes
@simonetubes Ай бұрын
nixos
@shaunnan146
@shaunnan146 9 күн бұрын
ZorinOS
@kbaeve
@kbaeve 9 күн бұрын
@@shaunnan146 Zorin is a glorified Ubuntu, it does not do anything else then any other linux distro when it comes to technology. NixOS as suggested might do, as it actually mixes things up a bit but havent found the time.
@PhuongHa-xz2uz
@PhuongHa-xz2uz Ай бұрын
Thank you, very helpful video. Are you using Fedora with KDE Plasma?
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH Ай бұрын
Yes
@ianpruett7825
@ianpruett7825 Ай бұрын
We really need per monitor workspaces on both KDE and Gnome
@ayoubrayanemesbah8845
@ayoubrayanemesbah8845 2 ай бұрын
Based on my experience , gnome if you want simple clear interface (my choice) , KDE if you want to customize (note gnome is customizable)
@fatihhguvenn
@fatihhguvenn Ай бұрын
3:47 oh maan thank you
@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors
@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors Ай бұрын
I tried it. Spent 20 minutes figuring how to replicate near-default GNOME workflow, opened overview and got spooked by 7 windows on a singular workspace. Feeling utterly defeated opened a terminal and typed rpm-ostree rebase
@alexstone691
@alexstone691 2 ай бұрын
Do note that ddcutil worked for ages for switching display brightness, its vendor dependant as some expose it fully some only partially so there are not many addons that make it seamless as support can be spotty I personally use a simple script for the brightness that uses it with the slider execute applet on kde plasma 5.27
@alexseleni3314
@alexseleni3314 Ай бұрын
Im glad both exist. I personally use Gnome cause its just nice and clean out of the box. But Plasma definitely has a lot more customisations and features.
@Luckeronisek
@Luckeronisek 2 ай бұрын
I Like Both, doesn't matter what to use. I use Gnome, because KDE was doing some random things. You are best Linux KZfaqr overall. ❤
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@ismaelfernandezmendez1664
@ismaelfernandezmendez1664 2 ай бұрын
Are you planning to make a video about the XZ Backdoor? Perhaps it's somewhat unrelated to the channel, as it's not particularly focused on development or cybersecurity, but I think it could offer an interesting perspective. The fact that it was discovered almost by accident is really scary.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
New backdoors are being discovered every time. This one is special because it has been unnoticed for this long. The media blows this way out of proportion though. Is it bad that this happened / happens? Yes, definitely. But this happens on Windows and MacOS as well
@gigsoll
@gigsoll 2 ай бұрын
Hello thanks for your video, I want to ask you, how you manage to use the meta key to switch around and grid and overview, for me that would be very helpful
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
I pinned it in the comments. Many are asking this
@adrianinsaval
@adrianinsaval 2 ай бұрын
3:40 this is my biggest problem with gtk apps, it's so fucking ridiculous having to memorize a keyboard shortcut just to edit a stupid path. I can't believe it took them this long to fix that but bettter late than never I guess.
@RuiBarros
@RuiBarros 2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for a decent virtual keyboard, in the accessibility options for KDE plasma. Onboard doesn't even work in a wayland session. All these little details that make a difference are resolved by default in Gnome.
@RustyLoaf
@RustyLoaf 2 ай бұрын
GNOME also supports DDC/CI control for your monitor brightness in the quick settings panel, but I think there's a weird race condition where it doesn't appear sometimes.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
It does on Laptops, but its the first time I saw this functionality for fully fledged Desktop Monitors
@RustyLoaf
@RustyLoaf 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelNROH It pops up for my desktop monitor, but I had to manually install the ddcci dkms module for Arch, and even then it only pops in sometimes. I haven't exactly figured out why, but I think it's an issue with ddcci itself because it's really hit or miss on Hyprland too.
@ExylonBotOfficial
@ExylonBotOfficial 2 ай бұрын
You can get the same feature for external monitor by installing a gnome extension and the ddcutil package
@RustyLoaf
@RustyLoaf 2 ай бұрын
@@ExylonBotOfficial You can, but because it's not the built-in GNOME brightness slider you miss out on the OSD brightness popup and you have to go into DCONF to edit the brightness media keys. It's not the worst, but I'd still rather use the native implementation if possible.
@ExylonBotOfficial
@ExylonBotOfficial 2 ай бұрын
@@RustyLoaf don't speak without knowing. The extension I'm talking about adds a convenient brightness slider under the one for the volume
@wilmergaleano7465
@wilmergaleano7465 2 ай бұрын
In Gnome 46, there is no longer a blurry effect in texts with electron applications when using fractional scaling?
2 ай бұрын
It's a chromium thing, not gnome.
@jorgkaufmann6363
@jorgkaufmann6363 2 ай бұрын
I have both Fedora 40 betas, Gnome and KDE, installed as Hyper-V VMs. I'm currently happier with Gnome because I can use headless RDP here: boot up the VM, start the RDP client, connect to the VM in full screen resolution, 5120 x 2160. It works smoothly, the screen is sharp, the sound works too. There's a little crackling when playing music, which isn't the case with Windows clients, but at least it works. Although the feature-packed KDE desktop is impressive, in comparison, I prefer and admire the simplicity of Gnome. I like powerful things kept as simple as possible. I haven't managed to get RDP working with KDE, Wayland yet. This is something I would like to achieve.
@zebobm
@zebobm 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't work with Krfb?
@makidoko
@makidoko Ай бұрын
I love Gnome, even while they don't want to implement simple things, like custom accent color, and break extensions on every update. I must say that I'm eagerly waiting for Cosmic DE to get out... it may be my next DE, after 20+ years with Gnome.
@treyquattro
@treyquattro Ай бұрын
good comparison. KDE is the DE that works for me and I agree that GNOME is probably better for new users.
@iodreamify
@iodreamify 2 ай бұрын
Great overview! I know it's basically impossible but i wish kde would simplify things a bit(more so from the code point of view and give it a refactoring, than to simplify the interface which people find confusing) so it would have a solid base upon which to take larger steps and catch up with Gnome. Because, and i could be wrong here, but it feels right now that Plasma has many different code paths, some really out of date, which makes making bold changes rather hard. In contrast to Gnome where projects like libadwaita and a general simpler design philosophy, make implementing things like grouped notifications, shortcuts which work across the whole desktop and headless login much more simple. And of course to concentrate on the app ecosystem: consistency and utility rather than customization and large applications.
@appsaucetech
@appsaucetech Ай бұрын
In my experience the plasma menu is quite easy to use, and relies less on the mouse. It works quite well paired with krunner compared to the gnome workflow, which takes up a lot more screen real estate to do the exact same thing. If you don't like the default meu, you can change it to a fullscreen one much like gnomes very easily. Plasma is also far more mature with wayland than gnome is. Just my take on gnome
@svan71
@svan71 Ай бұрын
Where did you get that wallpaper?
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH Ай бұрын
It's in the description. Edit: Wrong Video 😅 It's from the KDE store, something sunset minimalistic
@mariolis
@mariolis 15 күн бұрын
Plasma 6 still a revolutionary release , as opposed to an evolutionary one like Gnome 46 ... so of course it has some things that need to be ironed out... It is already great out of the box for me ,but if they do fix all the small issues that exist , it has the potential to be the GOAT for DEs But , as someone who is daily-driving Pop OS , I am waiting for arrival of the much anticipated Cosmic ... finally some competition for the big 2 of GNOME & KDE Let's be honest , as much as you might like DEs like Cinnamon , Budgie , XFCE , etc... , it has only been KDE and Gnome that have really been innovating and constantly pushing out new features , new technologies and new apps to accompany their DEs ... to finally have a 3rd contender in that space will do us all a lot of good
@mouk3y
@mouk3y 2 ай бұрын
Great comparison video! I'm excited to see what you think when POP OS officially releases it's COSMIC desktop.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
I'm keeping my expectations low, but it looks promising
@mouk3y
@mouk3y 2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelNROH Totally understandable
@walter_lesaulnier
@walter_lesaulnier 2 ай бұрын
I'll never get why Gnome is so popular- it seems to be made for touch screens and is only slightly customizable compared to KDE Plasma. I've been using Fedora with KDE Plasma and Wayland on my system that has two monitors with different resolutions and refresh rates and it works flawlessly.
Ай бұрын
I guess it's the "cleaner look" that Gnome offers out of the box that draws a lot of people to it.
@Filipomnomnom
@Filipomnomnom Ай бұрын
Because it is the environment that was meant to work well using a trackpad. I cannot imagine using my laptop with KDE. Because i do not want to be using my keyboard for navigation
@walter_lesaulnier
@walter_lesaulnier Ай бұрын
@@Filipomnomnom Now, that does make sense. I've never had a laptop and the occasional ones that I repair for people are only used very briefly by me to make sure they are working. I wish I'd had a modern laptop when I was in college- back then "laptops" were called portable PCs and were the size of a suitcase and cost as much as a car. If you put one on your lap, you'd probably dislocate a hip.
@jedipadawan7023
@jedipadawan7023 Ай бұрын
I believe it is because it is the preferred UI for, and due to, big business. Corporations want their staff on a DE which are essentially locked down app starters and no more. (I remember the days when certain big business had the limited functionality of Windows 3.11 locked down so users could only run a few apps!) Once you add in any degree of customization and workflow altering there is room for instability and trouble with, er, trouble shooting. Big business wants the focus on staff just running the essential apps and NOT playing around with the UI and breaking things. Big icons, essential apps docked, click and run the business' top working apps, with everything else hidden or just not available user works GREAT in the likes of 'Big Purple.' The IT department does not want users flicking switches or adding extensions. I think GNOME is really easy as an app launcher but a nightmare the moment you want to do anything the slightest bit more unless you install a ton of (possibly conflicting) extensions which will likely break with the next version of Gnome, extensions that would never be allowed in a major business. As such, I think Gnome dominates because it has the backing of the Big Corps and Gnome is directly funded now by 'Bug Purple.; And once the big guys get their say.... it stays that way. I am a total KDE fan - user define keyboard shortcuts are my workflow LIFE and nothing beats KDE for that! But that's 100% not the Big Corps way.
@manaueruel5468
@manaueruel5468 2 ай бұрын
You can have brightness control of your monitor also on gnome via extensions.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but like said its nice that KDE exposes this by default
@jjuarez83
@jjuarez83 Ай бұрын
I really wish KED had a much better default profile. I like Plasma but have always found that it takes too much work to get it right for me. GNOME is a better out of the box experience but it does leave me wanting more at times. With the new Fedora 40 I may take another look.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH Ай бұрын
You basically explained it perfectly why I am currently on Plasma 😅
@user-cv9ie3fn2t
@user-cv9ie3fn2t Ай бұрын
I first started with KDE, which I found to be a superb desktop environment, but things seemed off until the Plasma 6 update. I used GNOME for a long time, and it significantly improved my workflow because of its workspaces. I tried Plasma 6, but GNOME's workflow still suits me better. I only wish GNOME made it possible to switch between windows of the same app like KDE does. Another downside of GNOME is its idea of simplicity, which often conflicts with usability. With the GNOME 46 update, I can no longer change touchpad behaviours and just have to go with GNOME's defaults. GNOME also has one of the most toxic communities, in my opinion.
@user-dq4fc2zs3p
@user-dq4fc2zs3p 18 күн бұрын
You can switch beetween windows of the same app on Gnome using ALT + ` (the letter above Tab)
@ElHua
@ElHua 2 ай бұрын
KDE Plasma and Cinnamon are my two favorite desktop environments. I have used Gnome before, but I didn't like the layout and minimal customization.
@JaneDoe-nl1vd
@JaneDoe-nl1vd 2 ай бұрын
I still find myself tinkering with both vanilla offerings OOTB so I stick with ubuntu and its unity-like mods to gnome because its a workflow im comfortable with and don't feel the need to change.
@Steerable6827
@Steerable6827 2 ай бұрын
how did you make super key do the workspace and overview?
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
You need to bind it with some Kwin command or edit the kwinrc file in ~/.config.
@Battler624
@Battler624 Ай бұрын
Cant use gnome without extensions, I need a bottom bar for icons.
@archip8021
@archip8021 2 ай бұрын
Evening for me, gn!
@sleepywitches
@sleepywitches 27 күн бұрын
I love gnome but I also really enjoy plasma, it's hard to choose ngl
@hiralpatel3863
@hiralpatel3863 Ай бұрын
Link to wallpaper?
@F_Around_and_find_out
@F_Around_and_find_out 2 ай бұрын
I have used both in the past, and the main different between Gnome and KDE Plasma is customization. Otherwise both desktops do the same thing with high efficiency: Easy to navigate, easy to display the running processes, with Gnome being designed specifically to be easy toward PC newb and switching tasks. It is personal preference at this point because there is no right or wrong.
@rayrai982
@rayrai982 2 ай бұрын
00:01 I tried my best but couldn't find that wallpaper. Neither on pling store nor on google database. Can you please share a direct url to that wallpaper?
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH 2 ай бұрын
www.pling.com/p/2111887/
@rayrai982
@rayrai982 Ай бұрын
@@MichaelNROH Thanks 🐧
@lialeth5823
@lialeth5823 Ай бұрын
Personally I just enjoy gnome more than KDE. The crashing stuff indeed is annoying and the reason why I'm currently staying on gnome 45, which takes away one of the major points over KDE, which is stability, but even then I could never see myself using KDE. There are just to many things that feel to janky or bloated for me.
@MichaelNROH
@MichaelNROH Ай бұрын
It's a lot of work if you want to build your own experience. Many things need additional apps, since they haven't tied native ones to the Desktop Environment (e.g. a calendar)
@darran311
@darran311 5 күн бұрын
Same question ive been agonizing over for a couple months now since i built this machine im now using and in the end the answer was xfce
@drakata27
@drakata27 Ай бұрын
As a uni student onedrive integration is huge for me
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM Ай бұрын
I believe the side alt-tab in plasma was a windows 8 holdout.
@regulargamedev3295
@regulargamedev3295 Ай бұрын
I installed Fedora 40 with gnome 46 and no bugs appeared yet. I don't use vrr though
@jmdennis1967
@jmdennis1967 Ай бұрын
For me I will always use KDE. I started with them when Gnome had the 3 menu items and I liked more of the Start menu. I still use that today but do not use much of what KDE has to offer. I guess I am just more comfortable with that as I get older. I will use others as well as whatever runs the best on my PC.
@youtube.user.1234
@youtube.user.1234 2 ай бұрын
Personally I’d say that GNOME is better on laptops and KDE is better on desktops :)
@proton46
@proton46 2 ай бұрын
I am using bspwm.... I do still use plasma sometimes though...
@sanjunandi1627
@sanjunandi1627 Ай бұрын
Waitng for an arch linux kde plasma clean & minimal setup with useful settings/customization video from you...
@wolfisraging
@wolfisraging Ай бұрын
You can install ddcutil to control external display brightness! Nothing especial about KDE here
@artemis4534
@artemis4534 Ай бұрын
while I like gnome I dont really use it because I dont really like the App dwarer to much, it feels to "messy" for lack of a better term. maybe it just feels to much like a phone for me
@elalemanpaisa
@elalemanpaisa Ай бұрын
Brudi, du bist der einzige deutsche KZfaqr der in Englisch streamt bei dem ich kein Fremdscham auf Grund des Akzents bekomme 😂😂😂
@JuanReyes-wj7eg
@JuanReyes-wj7eg 2 ай бұрын
I used to have my disk very partitioned and I installed 2 distributions, they were always Arch KDE and Debian or Ubuntu Gnome. I didn't want to miss the experience of using the most complete DE, even though with Debian or Ubuntu I was a little behind with the Gnome versions. I think that now if I did the same thing again it could be Tumbleweed KDE and Arch Gnome, I never liked having 2 DE in the same distribution, I think it is not healthy for the system.
@dexterman6361
@dexterman6361 2 ай бұрын
I hate the fact that i cannot rearrange the virtual desktops, and that the gestures are not customizable. Like, why?
@dexterman6361
@dexterman6361 2 ай бұрын
Lack of account integration is a joykill for me on KDE
@NunuaBusy
@NunuaBusy Ай бұрын
i found kde was far more fiddly and unstable every time i tried to customize it, even becoming unresponsive and forcing a reboot... i'll just keep to gnome.
@LymanPhillips
@LymanPhillips 2 ай бұрын
Great overview of both. I'm just psyched to see desktops that are responsive to me it's user needs. That's why i love Linux. For me, I'll stick with GNOME.
@thatirishguyyy
@thatirishguyyy 7 күн бұрын
dope
@samuelitooooo
@samuelitooooo Ай бұрын
I like the GNOME DE, but KDE/Qt apps. 😅 (e.g. Dolphin, Gwenview, Spectacle, Discover, Audacious, QWinFF. Exceptions include GIMP, GtkHash, and some Flatpaks)
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