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Microsoft's $1 Billion Failure
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Күн бұрынMicrosoft could have been Apple... Snazzy Labs talks about the Microsoft Zune and why an excellent product ultimately failed-and failed spectacularly.
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Microsoft in the mid-2000s just couldn't get things right. While Xbox 360 was doing well, Windows Vista was a spectacular disaster and the launch of the iPhone and Google Android ultimately pushed Microsoft and the Windows Phone operating system out of the market. But a few years before that there was Zune: a portable MP3 player brave enough to take on the iPod. Did it work? Clearly not... Why, however, was Microsoft's music player such a failure and why did it cost them over a billion dollars in losses?
@LinusTechTips 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's a nice t-shirt.
@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын
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@SAPHIRAPPS 4 жыл бұрын
Lol nice
@98SE 4 жыл бұрын
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@user-bn8pg7os8d 4 жыл бұрын
Hi squirtle
@SirBrucie 4 жыл бұрын
Its a wild linus!
@drunkssjsteeler 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my Zune! Especially after I had 2 iPods stolen! No one ever stole my Zune!
@alexsmith1207 4 жыл бұрын
True someone stole my ipod nano
@thedominatior39 4 жыл бұрын
Same someone stole my original IPod touch so my parents bought me a Zune from a Pawn Shop for 20 bucks
@THEYCANTSTOPME 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody my stole my zune after I had it for like two months, I was and still am FN mad
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. 😂😂
@JoJo603060 4 жыл бұрын
Bro both my zunes got stolen
@eieiolsenstudios4321 4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t solder stuff down that doesn’t need to be soldered.” How Apple of them.
@lzh4950 4 жыл бұрын
Apple also uses glue sometimes
@karatewithelian9014 4 жыл бұрын
@@lzh4950 maybe as much glue to glue an elephant into a ceiling
@GTAandApplechannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@karatewithelian9014 for water resistant
@pujaastika 3 жыл бұрын
All ipod touch batteries are soldered, more risky than the battery in iphone which has a socket...this make touch battery replacement cost higher than iphone's batt replacement
@Kchandrashekaran 4 жыл бұрын
Zune HD had such a good interface and intuitive animations. It's shocking that Microsoft did not use those learning from mistakes to improve their phones/app store.
@PaulIsDeadMissHim 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have mattered, the smartphone was only a couple of years away.
@True77 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft, unfortunately, is really good at being too early and too late.
@RR-uc1wb 4 жыл бұрын
Jon don’t forget the Windows phone.
@CDL96 4 жыл бұрын
In other words, they're bad at marketing their products
@melvinstevens3237 4 жыл бұрын
@@j.322 actually surface mainly trouble is that you can't use a lot foreign programs ,likely just the ones on Microsoft store Did you check Microsoft store?? There is nothing interesting there
@LironBerisha 4 жыл бұрын
@@CDL96It is not just marketing ,their products as said are created in a bad time
@ChamiCh 4 жыл бұрын
@@melvinstevens3237 he's talking about the *original* surface, which was a business-oriented product that was basically a table with a PC built-in that allowed interactions via objects on the table and other cool stuff.
@emdotrod 4 жыл бұрын
Had a Zune 80 and to be honest I enjoyed it more than iPod. Sad to see Microsoft couldn't even touch Apple at that time
@DoYouDJ 4 жыл бұрын
same was able to port all my mp3's from napster to mine
@fallingcloud1 4 жыл бұрын
Windows lumia. With the high camera..... I used until 2016. Now look at these fuck faces. Microsoft does everything better. Apple and Samsung have teamed up over the years against Microsoft
@YoungvLondon 4 жыл бұрын
Same. Had a Zune 30 and it was built like a fucking brick. I dropped it so many times without ever having any problems and later upgraded to a gen 2 120 for more space. Thing's still built like a brick and running 12 years later without any issues.
@Buttface1981 4 жыл бұрын
I still have and use my Zune HD. I love it and still think the Zune Windows software is the best music player to this day.
@RandomUser2401 4 жыл бұрын
@@YoungvLondon There we have the problem: Most people are adults enough to care for their shit and not drop them constantly. In conclusion: They do NOT want bricks but devices that have a proper design. And MS doing everything better? Woot? The crapload they delivered with the failure-from-the-beginning Windows phone? First gen Surface and Surface Pro? Get out of here!
@Vans89 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this video age restricted? Zune: Squirting!
@joshdznyc 3 жыл бұрын
Airdrop
@felipin0709 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the Zune, stayed for the squirt
@OhSoTiredMan 3 жыл бұрын
Teacher: What are you two doing? Student: I'm quirting it at him
@andrewmorris8689 4 жыл бұрын
Major correction: music bought on the iTunes music store could be played on more than just the iPod. You could (and I did a lot!) burn them to CD and play them in any CD player. I don’t understand why this option was completely forgotten about. It was a very common thing to do at the time.
@GrandmasCamera 4 жыл бұрын
That interface on the Zune HD was what made me fall in love with the early 2010s Windows Phones. Good old Metro UI
@thebl4ckt00th 4 жыл бұрын
Same. Got myself an LG Quantum after my experience with the Zune HD.
@AmbientMess 4 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous looking UI IMO next to Windows Vista AERO
@benanderson89 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I had a Lumia 920 and the interface was absolutely gorgeous and buttery smooth. I wish Windows Phone 10 had taken off because I massively prefer the interface to iOS and Android.
@RalstigRacing 4 жыл бұрын
@@benanderson89 agreed and still nothing like it to this day. I love my live tiles.
@RyanCalebAstillero 4 жыл бұрын
Same. After that, I fell in love with lumia 710, 520 720 920 so on and so fort. Until they become obsolete, thats one of the saddest news in my life
@T00muchF00Dchannel 4 жыл бұрын
My ZuneHD is sitting in a glass box in my living room. It is a legend.
@ReallyCoolSite 4 жыл бұрын
The gods bless ya, Game Buffet.
@Puddspanker 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I had my black 80g one still. Loved that thing
@Carahan 4 жыл бұрын
There was no way better way to pass a few minutes between classes than AudioSuft on the ZuneHD.
@Carahan 4 жыл бұрын
Audiosurf.
@justinpearson9170 4 жыл бұрын
Loved my ZuneHD so much I brought another one when the second one died randomly on me. The first one someone stole from me when I wasn't looking (but that's fine though. I find joy in knowing that the person who stole it ran into a list of bad luck afterwards lol). Had the other Zunes as well and all of them where pretty solid in my opinion. I was really looking forward to a Zune Phone :-(
@Helladamnleet 4 жыл бұрын
I can remember having an iPod while my friends girlfriend had a Zune, and to be honest the Zune was pretty sweet. Not having to use iTunes to ad all my ilegally obtained music was what I found amazing about it.
@dotslashdotslahsdotslash 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair all other mp3 players at that time could do that.
@absolutium Жыл бұрын
@@dotslashdotslahsdotslash Wirelessly?
@mkuhnactual Жыл бұрын
Yeah I loved how easy it was to rip my cds to my zune. I remember it being much more difficult on my ipod. Also my ipod mysteriously stopped working on me while my Zune kept going like a truck and still works to this day. I love it for when I go areas with no cellular/wifi reception.
@BleachRush 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Spotify released this zune as their own device..
@SupremeChief1 4 жыл бұрын
I would cry of enjoyment
@delulu6969 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of Mighty?
@deepestfried 3 жыл бұрын
@@delulu6969 I have one lol
@GeoCalifornian 4 жыл бұрын
“squirting”? -well he did say Microsoft was the least cool company of that period.
@Puddspanker 4 жыл бұрын
The best company. Who doesnt want to squirt on your friends?
@GeoCalifornian 4 жыл бұрын
Not applicable...
@EndOfTheW0rld 4 жыл бұрын
that was false.
@NANOTECHYT 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft wasn't just ahead of the time on streaming, they also knew 'Friends with Benefits' would be a hot thing too. A company truly making the right things in the wrong time span.
@Juraiprince 4 жыл бұрын
Credit where credit is due: That Zune HD was indeed very slick. And ahead of it's time, especially with that amazing DAC it had. I wish I had bought one back in the day.
@isaiahsmith7123 4 жыл бұрын
I still have both of my Zunes both a Halo 3 edition, and a Zune HD
@calex007 4 жыл бұрын
I had one. Loved it. Zune HD was so sleek, got mine somewhere I should try to start it back up!
@TheMias24 4 жыл бұрын
The Zune HD was really cool tbh
@rahb1 4 жыл бұрын
"I wish I had bought one ..." Probably a good thing you didn't, since even the fanboy replies suggest they don't use them anymore!
@blastofo 4 жыл бұрын
Zune HD had the best hardware of any pocket device when it was released, but it failed miserably with content. It didn't even have 10% as many games as the iPod Touch. Content is king.
@elijahdelacruz3204 4 жыл бұрын
"You can squirt things to friends" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, bro I died
@nygeek6471 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the first consumer OLED product was the Sony Clie VZ-90 released in 2004. It was a handheld palm pilot device with email, web, and music/video player.
@fritz1360 4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t solder stuff down that doesn’t need to be soldered...” That would be a good hint for Apple’s design-team at recently, soldering SSDs to the motherboard ....
@ozefreclaimed 4 жыл бұрын
they do WHAT?!
@vogonp4287 4 жыл бұрын
How else do you ensure that people keep buying your stuff?
@oldraccoon5167 4 жыл бұрын
@@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace the most frustrating thing is that other manufacturers follow it
@stoojinator 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft do this too with their Surfaces. If one thing breaks, you have to bin it. Utterly shit design idea.
@waltercomunello121 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God.
@themagicvideoman 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I missed about the entire Windows phone U.I. never had enough apps to compete but damn did I love the look and feel
@YSPDJapan 4 жыл бұрын
I remember getting a launcher to replicate the Windows UI on my Android Phone. That's how good it was.
@SataniaMcDowel 4 жыл бұрын
Phone I'm using currently is a Windows phone (Lumia 1520) 7 months ago and I use nothing else. Love it , won't trade it for anything on the planet and bought a gen 1 Zune 30 today. Life is good.
@tohuman14 4 жыл бұрын
@@SataniaMcDowel respect. Had a lumia 920 for the longest time, but couldn't stay when they made the lumia 928 (the best version that was years ahead of it's time) verizon exclusive, by the time they actually decided to compete, and release the lumia 950 to everyone, I'd already moved on to a galaxy alpha
@odkres 4 жыл бұрын
I stuck with my crappy Lumia phone until like late 2018. By then the apps had started to disappear but the UI was simply a saving grace in the shitshow that was Windows Phone. I'm quite certain the same kind of problems were present in WP as what was mentioned in the video, somehow Microsoft just didn't allow the developers to do certain stuff. Even something as simple as a properly working real-time clock on the start screen was very difficult to find.
@pisse3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@YSPDJapan It could replicate the looks, but it was still laggy and slow. Windows phone 7 never ever slowed down unlike Android
@tjwatson2249 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the lesson with Zune HD is that even when you UX the hell out of a product to compete with Apple, marketing and fostering a healthy developer community are just as vital
@Sith-Happens 4 жыл бұрын
I owned a Zune HD and it was my most prized possession in high school, my friends which owned the ipod touch 3rd generation were mesmerized with it, the quality of the sounds was superior, the original headphones lasted 2 years i had the zune itself for 5 years in perfect working condition till it got stolen sadly. It was ahead of its time.
@hokiez2013 4 жыл бұрын
The Zune HD is one of my favorite devices I’ve ever owned. I think Microsoft didn’t advertise it as well as Apple. Anytime one of my friends saw my Zune they were interested in it and thought it looked great.
@dennwilliams3342 4 жыл бұрын
Bbarbz I loved this device over the iPod I had so much music , lost 😩😩😩
@fortyinch 4 жыл бұрын
likewise. loved mine till it got stolen. i tried to get another one but it was just too expensive lol.
@abinyahwalker7034 4 жыл бұрын
When you compared the Zune to what was available at the time, it was not very good. In retrospect almost all technology looks amazing.
@stevewalker846 4 жыл бұрын
I still use mine
@midifire 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of the zune in Europe until their last versions but no availability. Wasnt keen on importing it tbh. And then it was discontinued.
@UNBEK4NNTE 4 жыл бұрын
"If you're old enough to be watching this video, you probably owned an iPod too". Nope, I used to have a usb-stick mp3 player with batteries. And most people on my school had these too.
@ThomasSpychalski 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, yay for poverty lol!! :)
@lVlegabyte 4 жыл бұрын
And it took AAA batteries!
@ThomasSpychalski 4 жыл бұрын
@@lVlegabyte Yep...exactly lol.
@FatherChuckleNuts 4 жыл бұрын
I had the Zune 120gb. I absolutely loved that little player, and used it for years and years. For me, the storage size was important and apple never released a device that even came close.
@sirrus_sky 3 жыл бұрын
Had a ZuneHD and honestly it was a fantastic product. UI is still gorgeous IMO. The subscription service was such good value with the possibility to own ten songs per month! I just remember the battery life being pretty bad which got old really quick.
@johnny26910 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the reason the It was called the Zune "HD" (in addition to the radio) was that it could output HD video (720p) to your TV, with a separately purchased dock
@clintgolub1751 4 жыл бұрын
Jon East I never knew that!
@TheWookiee1977 4 жыл бұрын
I have the dock. It's connected to my PC. It did indeed come with an HDMI cord for your TV. They also had an analog Yellow Red White TV connector which plugged into the headphone jack.
@jakeydeefpv 4 жыл бұрын
It was for both radio and 720p compatibility
@punishedbung4902 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, the boys and I would squirt all of the time. We'd squirt at playgrounds, at the lunchtable, in class, in the bathroom, in the hallways, at eachother's houses, it was the time of our lives. It was also cool that we could listen to our zunes as we squirted all over eachother.
@simpleman8883 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao, just what I wanted to see.
@KingMierda 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have TP for your bunghole?
@marlonflorian1537 4 жыл бұрын
😩please more squirt
@YoshiMario69 4 жыл бұрын
It's been five minutes and I still cannot stop fucking laughing x,D
@iktn132 4 жыл бұрын
I used to squirt
@rosswingard8949 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie... a few of my friends and I used to have Zunes... basically because you literally could not buy iPods where we lived... just too far out in the country. But... for some unknown reason... we could get Zune's. Not gonna lie... when you got a few people around you who also owned these things, they were actually epic to live with. I... unironically... genuinely LOVED my original Zune. The only reason I still don't have it is because someone stole it. :(
@iloveplasticbottles 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because smartphones nowadays are starting to look like the zune hd
@deautomaton 4 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Metro UI, especially it’s last iterations on Windows Phone. It was incredibly classy, aesthetic, and useful. I miss Windows phone and Zune.
@PrestonHon 4 жыл бұрын
I had both and agree. I wish they had succeeded because I'd still be using a Windows Phone today.
@LasseJOugaard 4 жыл бұрын
Funny. I had a windows phone aswell and was actually quite happy with it. I just eventually had to switch away, because app support was terrible.
@lizkeller5827 4 жыл бұрын
I wrote about the Zune HD in a college paper and I mentioned how the marketing was poor for the product as well. The simple Ads and graphics from Apple were so iconic. Microsoft Ads were not catching people's attention.
@MarcosElMalo2 4 жыл бұрын
MS consumer product marketing at that time was always atrocious and confusing, from advertising to packaging. Yet they had one stellar success, the XBox. At the time nobody thought they could pull it off vs Sony, but look where it is today. What was different about the development and marketing of XBox? Two things I can think of right off the bat was that 1) MS spread a lot of money around among game developers to make sure Xbox had sufficient titles at launch (including their outright purchase of Mac game developer Bungie, giving them an exclusive on Halo), and 2) Xbox was basically walled off from the company, allowing it to do its own thing (much like how the Mac was initially developed at Apple).
@Mario_N64 2 жыл бұрын
It was ahead of its time. It had a mid 2010s aesthetic already.
@Mikri90 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never knew that the Metro interface was that old. I had a Windows phone like just 2 years ago (bought it in 2016, I know I know, too late), and at the time when I bought it it was still on Windows 8.1 Mobile, which had the exact same aesthetic to it as the Zune HD. It got upgraded to Win10 Mobile at some point, but conveniently you could roll-back to 8.1 whenever you pleased by doing a factory reset. And I did it when I gave the phone to my father to make it more simple (he never had a smartphone prior to that one so I didn't want to overwhelm him). And yes, that's a very pleasant and uncluttered interface. Shame that Windows Phones never took off.
@dagg497 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Zune was incorrect for the swedish market. In 2006, MP3 players for PC was available at 50$. Filesharing for music started dying in 2007. Cellphones that were smartphones in its day (Samsung F480, D900, Ericsson P800, Nokia N95, Blackberry, early Motorola 3G phones etc.) long before android/iphone - could play both mp3 and movies in 2007. And also, Spotify was free Beta in that time aswell in Sweden and some other countries..
@CYTBlitz 4 жыл бұрын
Brown Zunes and “squirting” do not go well together.
@TheNiteNinja19 4 жыл бұрын
If the Zune HD released today, I never would've known that was from the late 2000's.
@ravenstarheels 4 жыл бұрын
loved the zune
@DizzKidz 4 жыл бұрын
Marcus Edwards Me too ... until it was updated so that you couldn’t use it as an external hard drive.
@kallen545 4 жыл бұрын
I love the zune hd it was so light
@leebeeskee 4 жыл бұрын
Late 2000’s? So nearly the year 3000?
@mareksicinski3726 4 жыл бұрын
@@leebeeskee No, nearly the year 2010. (also, *2000s)
@RetroDakota 3 жыл бұрын
Later Zune models even had a radio feature that would read the RDS data from FM stations and would provide links to purchase songs you hear on the radio... granted if your favorite station has RDS data in their signal. Not every station has RDS, especially smaller independent community stations or in rural areas. As for HD Radio, it could make FM radio more appealing to many if stations dropped analog signals completely. That would greatly increase digital bandwidth and in turn, audio quality.
@bart_ender6116 4 жыл бұрын
Man I loved the Zune and the Zune service. It was a lot easier to use than the ITunes store. It was really easy to move other files onto your Zune.
@dbvetter7485 4 жыл бұрын
I remember in 1997 June-July, Apple stock was 16 cents a share, I was waiting for a $20,000 Check from my company in October, but I didn’t buy any shares, regret it ever since. I would probably have close to $100 million if I had it today. I really don’t want to figure the exact amount - to depressing.
@Kysen10 4 жыл бұрын
ouch
@johnpaulmacaraeg1677 4 жыл бұрын
Oof
@kabosumamadoge1818 4 жыл бұрын
Oof
@joesuss4669 4 жыл бұрын
F
@daenjel-nu4000 4 жыл бұрын
F
@7aflores7 4 жыл бұрын
"The world was not in a great place." 2020 Has entered the chat.
@marjacu3809 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@diegoryna 4 жыл бұрын
*bangs on trash can*
@jackblackfan4202 4 жыл бұрын
@@marjacu3809 urgently hehehe truth Helen Telemark owl and Jeremy oodles with kennel owl owl idk tell owl tell trucking truth
@Skill_Issued 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure
@Omnishredder 4 жыл бұрын
1720 wants to know your location
@AFatOcelot Жыл бұрын
People don’t realize how important it was to run or workout without a cd player skipping
@lyoozero 4 жыл бұрын
I was on a student exchange program in Japan for a year back in 2014. I had a class with a professor that liked to talk about his life sometimes. He told us that he was contracted to work on the Zune, and made a shit ton of money, so he didn't care about it failing. Watching this video I realized that he probably had some ties to Toshiba or something.
@MiyuruWeerarathna 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Zune pass until now. Amazing. MS was ahead of its time I guess. It’s all about timing and market perception of any good idea. Nice video SnazzyLabs. Make more stuff like this.
@skankyfranky1028 4 жыл бұрын
Miyuru Weerarathna i remember having a white zune 30, brown zune 30, and the halo 3 zune. i had the zune pass and everyone thought i was an idiot for paying to rent music.
@kraorh 4 жыл бұрын
It was a pretty sweet deal while it lasted. They eventually rolled it into the "Xbox Music Pass" and later, Groove. We who had the original Pass were grandfathered in with the "10 free mp3s a month" deal for several years, but eventually they forced everyone into the $10-for-only-streaming" deal with Groove. I wasn't interested in streaming (for practical reasons), so I ended my subscription then. Just a few months later, Groove was killed off as a subscription service, with MS promoting Spotify in its stead.
@Panzer_Z 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft has always been ahead of its time with a lot of stuff. It's just the hardware wasn't there yet, it was too nerdy/geeky that only the technophiles wanted it, or they always tried to make things just not perfect enough so they weren't in direct competition with their 3rd party vendors.
@bryanmanx 4 жыл бұрын
Too many people just turn the other way when they hear the name Microsoft and they really miss out on some great stuff.
@ant.upptech 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmanx such people are idiots.
@THEFIRE360 4 жыл бұрын
The person who proposed the feature to be named "squirting" must have been super surprised that the execs approved it lol
@genzo53 4 жыл бұрын
I would upvote, but your post has exactly 69 upvotes, which is nice.
@SoundOfFreedom32 4 жыл бұрын
Lets dislike his comment to keep it at 69 lol
@THEFIRE360 4 жыл бұрын
CreatineJunk KZfaq dislikes does nothing
@kangkim150 4 жыл бұрын
Zunechan enters chat
@specificsoup 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair, i don't think squirting then was used as slang for . .what squirting now means.
@tanebadi 4 жыл бұрын
i really miss that metro interface...
@midwestconcertvideo 3 жыл бұрын
I've always said that if Apple had introduced the Metro interface - the exact same interface - that every text journalist would have fallen all over themselves to praise it, calling it the future of interface design.
@tonysamosa1717 Жыл бұрын
Timing is everything. I cannot go without KZfaq music and air drop and Microsoft had both of those way earlier
@TheDailyG89 4 жыл бұрын
Hot Take: Zune is the Sega Dreamcast of Media Players. Great ideas but before their time.
@paulerxx 4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with the Zune was that it came out too late lol by 2010 I had a 20GB+ Microsd in my phone and would simple load it with music. No need for a dedicated MP3 player any longer. I also used streaming websites around this time. I think google music started to become popular around 2010/2011.
@adamszuszkiewicz1709 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulerxx blame Ballmer; he shot down pretty much every revolutionary idea that Microsoft employees came up with including search engines before Google, streaming services, tablets before the iPad was a thing etc bc it was "too risky" and he wanted to focus on Microsofts core products. The tech industry would have been way different had he not been an idiot.
@somebonehead 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamszuszkiewicz1709 Dude, no one at the time knew the impact these devices would have on the world. You're talking with hindsight bias right now.
@adamszuszkiewicz1709 4 жыл бұрын
@@somebonehead he slept on the zune when they first came to him about it and said nobody would want to buy it and then approved it in 2006 when it was way too late lol. Maybe a bit of hindsight bias but his entire mentality was to focus on windows and Microsoft Office in a time where other tech companies were trying to diversify
@TriWaZe 4 жыл бұрын
ZuneHD one of the first oled devices but noone gave a shit back then. Its sad how early Microsoft was on so many things but got shafted in the end.
@michaelpain 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft's problem is the way they market their consumer products. They seem to lead with their name despite the largely negative view of the company. The only equipment success I can think of is the Xbox, where it was created as its own brand.
@ChrisDecrease 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpain Apparently, consumer sentiment has shifted in Microsoft's favour these past few years.
@nonyobussiness3440 4 жыл бұрын
Chris because Microsoft kicks ass
@uNpOpuLArOpInION69 4 жыл бұрын
And when apple takes a dump, everyone cheers
@Sinnaclxn 4 жыл бұрын
Its because everybody just dick riding apple
@JustRobertCZE 2 жыл бұрын
Quinn: When you and your friends squirt at each other... Me. Dies of laughter 😂😂😂
@dfort444 4 жыл бұрын
5:30 I laugh so hard at this because a ''zune'' is also a expression that refer to the male parts in my language 😂 Back in time no one would buy this because of that!
@llamingo 4 жыл бұрын
In your country "please squirt at me with your Zune"
@Adam-qs5ir 3 жыл бұрын
Product development at Microsoft obviously didn't do enough research prior to naming their product. 😂
@tuscacc6898 4 жыл бұрын
If they released this now days audiophiles would’ve loved it
@cafenightster4548 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly loved the audio of the Zune, the ipod used a compressed file, which didnt sound great.
@Gabe7Gal 4 жыл бұрын
I think the HD would be more relevant know then it was back then. Compact and lightweight, non-extensive app support means no bloatware or ads, great battery, AMOLED display... 2009 kid: Why would you want a ZuneHD?? The iPod Touch has way more apps! 2020 kid: LMAO what apps?? What are you going to do, play with your lightsaber app for 3 hours until the battery is dead?
@kinamod2k 4 жыл бұрын
Audiophiles DID love it. Same with the Creative Zen
@AmbientMess 4 жыл бұрын
Always found it funny how the service itself was release over here in the UK yet the device only saw a release in Yankville and 'we are so proud' Canada. More people should know about the gem that is Zune HD!
@iamhealthy4068 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Atkins Jesus Christ. “Yankville and ‘We Are So Proud’ Canada”? Who hurt you? You mad about your London Gap or sumfing?
@mongoriansrus 4 жыл бұрын
Bought my first Zune Master Chief Edition in Turkey when I was stationed there in 2007. Had radio, video, music, playlists, games, wireless transfers and yea it worked for windows and was AMAZING. Still have it, still love it, was better built and worked better than Ipods. Yeah, I made the right choice :)
@narlycharley 4 жыл бұрын
LOVED my Halo 3 edition Zune!
@mikethefireman6696 4 жыл бұрын
Have the same Halo 3 edition and still use it. Never jumped on the "i" band wagon, not a fan of ios.
@Aster_Risk 4 жыл бұрын
My sister's husband, who was still just her boyfriend back in 2009, had a Zune, and he used to let me use it all the time. I really liked it.
@raphaelmartins6529 Жыл бұрын
Flat is not just a trend. Companies use flat design in their logos because a flat logo has fewer details so it looks good not matter the size. For example, in an app icon
@codylujan 4 жыл бұрын
me: mom can i get an ipod. everyone at school has one mom: sure i'll add it to your christmas list christmas present: Z U N E
@luke_fabis 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Siri, play Mozart’s Requiem.
@9nxt 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, same but after I got off my 13y/o high horse, I loved my zune. It had these bad ass braided and magnetic earbuds that sounded way better than the apple earbuds, and had more room. I downloaded raw mp3 files and had like 700 songs on it
@samsavage9039 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Zune It was good to me. I had a blast with it jamming out. I was accidentally flexing and the apple kids wanted one in my school.
@jasonkh3943 4 жыл бұрын
@@samsavage9039 lol, how does one flex accidentally? Lol
@RareMade 4 жыл бұрын
Jason kH by not even trying to flex but it’s a flex having something different?😂
@apoletestry3766 4 жыл бұрын
Snazzy: It has a headphone jack. Snazzy: [explains what a headphone jack is]
@fordshojoe8080 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@clocked0 4 жыл бұрын
@Satoshi Analysis LMAO
@BlackOpHalo 4 жыл бұрын
Satoshi Analysis you good bro?
@clocked0 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlackOpHalo He's a bot. He's been copying and pasting that on almost every comment thread on this video. Part of me thinks it might be a Microsoft run bot though, to make it look like Bill is having a tough time so that people are more sympathetic to Microsoft and less likely to move to Linux. Or, more likely, it's a bot some l33t haxor created using Kali Linux in his mother's basement to make himself feel better and I'm just reading too much into it because I'm a cynical jackass.
@GDPGamingNetwork 4 жыл бұрын
War Kitty I feel old when you have to tell people what a headphone jack is
@precipitate5164 4 жыл бұрын
OG Zune came loaded with some GREAT songs and music videos. How I found out as a kid about SubPop and a lot of the bands I still love to this day.
@PepsT 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVED the way the Zune HD looked. It truly was beautiful. It's a shame it was stolen from me, but I loved it so much.
@gregjoblove672 4 жыл бұрын
I had a baby blue iPod shuffle, which I lost in my house when I was six. A decade and a renovation later, still nowhere to be found. Its an ongoing joke in my family that it slipped into a parallel universe.
@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I have so much stuff like this. I had a Zune HD but had to buy another one cause I couldn't find my original. I don't even have that much crap to sort through! No idea where it could have gone. I'm sure we'll find our respective music players in our shoe or something some day.
@pupbrained 4 жыл бұрын
I remember I had gotten an iPod shuffle a few years ago. Within a month it went thru the washing machine and was no more.
@manuel0578 4 жыл бұрын
Well most of my stuff that went missing my brother sold or gave away without telling me 🙄
@manuel0578 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you need an iPod at six years old lol I wouldn’t even have known what to listen to at that age
@WildVoltorb 4 жыл бұрын
Guys working on the renovation stole it.
@cgraham6 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Steve Ballmer should have shouted "Developers!" just one more time.
@toddmaek5436 3 жыл бұрын
That ZuneHD was a great product.
@Inspirement 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even finish the video before I opened a new Ebay tab and searched for Zune HD. Now I really want one.
@TechInspected 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Zune 80GB. It was awesome. I left it in my car glove compartment on a cloudy day under a tree for like 4 hours - like I did everyday for like a year. Then it didn't turn back on. I live in the Philippines and support is nonexistent or expensive. Same thing happened as this video's Zune Flash. I bought an aftermarket battery, had an electronics repair guy replace the battery. Didn't turn on. So my zune officially died then. That product was the product that swore me off from buying niche, rare, little no support devices. I hate buying mainstream, but sometimes you just have to get something common but reliable.
@DaveChips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes po, that's why I like Samsung a lot... It has stores and support all over the world... Never had any problems anywhere
@theenzoferrari458 4 жыл бұрын
That's your own dumbass fault. Learn to take care of your shit ignoramus.
@haziqshams 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, this is basically me when I was using Pixel 2 XL in Malaysia. Sucked when I had to change the screen, replacement was about 80% if compared with buying used.
@ClownSpass 4 жыл бұрын
This was soooooo worth it just to learn all about SQUIRTING!!!! ------------------I FEEL LIKE A STRONGER MAN NOW!
@dayyou 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my buddy were the only people in all of middle/high school to have zunes. I had my blue frosted and he had the halo green. So much time spent squirting on each other. Never knew thats what it was called though....
@EchoWinters 4 жыл бұрын
dayyou I want to unsee both of these comments
@sheldonwhite4960 4 жыл бұрын
Marc Lamparter hahahah I just squirting 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@Byteable 4 жыл бұрын
💦 💦 💦
@nkadyk 3 жыл бұрын
I had the brown/green one and loved it SO much.. More than my iPod.
@RobCabreraCh 4 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love a dedicated music player in 2020. Something with a very high quality DAC and headphone amp, with support for high quality codecs, and good modern UI. I guess something like Bluetooth 5 wouldn't hurt either. But I imagine I'm in the minority here
@DemShotta 4 жыл бұрын
Was in love with my Zune! Had the dock with speakers and a remote etc. If the software was consistently updated I'd buy it AGAIN!!!!
@Nothingtoya 4 жыл бұрын
I still have my original Zune but I've lost the docking station, remote, and charging cable 🙁
@NeoRichardBlake 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted one, because I don't like Apple's walled garden, but I couldn't afford it at the time. I still buy CDs and rip them myself, so that I'm not beholden to DRM. I would probably get one of these, if it were affordable. I used to carry two phones anyway, one as my phone, and the previous phone acting as my media device, so that my phone wouldn't run out of juice in the middle of the day. Phones have gotten better about battery now though. ;)
@MayPolBeats 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Snazzy Guy: mentions the word "squirt" a few times Me: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@brucelouie2186 4 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@diskmastermoo5567 4 жыл бұрын
Cum.
@peter_filip 4 жыл бұрын
@tubetib me too
@danielclausmeyer 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the meetings and presentations! 😂 how could they do this
@stevejobs5488 4 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@725niko 2 жыл бұрын
Silver iPod Mini my dad bought me when I was a teenager, god bless him, he passed from Covid. But bought me one without thinking twice. He also had a black classic and a white classic!
@enoeht5519 3 жыл бұрын
Zune player is now a collectible item and can be found on eBay. People are buying working models, holding onto them for a few months and reselling them $200 - $500.
@goodchristianboy7053 4 жыл бұрын
If Star Lord uses a zune I'm just gonna assume it was successful
@TheDeathmail 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, it was a joke that it was unsuccessful, but because he was out of the loop, he didn't know that...
@KevDoy 3 жыл бұрын
😬 that was the joke…
@goodchristianboy7053 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevDoy What I said was also a joke 😬
@KevDoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@goodchristianboy7053 don't gotta lie to kick it
@MrBon3sz 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevDoy 💀😂
@TheMetaldudeX 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when they rebranded “zune” to “Xbox music”
@TwistedForHire 4 жыл бұрын
And then to "Groove" to "Music" to "Groove Music".
@DaBrute 4 жыл бұрын
@@TwistedForHire whoa I completely forgot about that 😂
@RedTyphoon 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot about that.
@toyotaprius79 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I do ...
@toyotaprius79 4 жыл бұрын
Shit! I still have my zune. the program on pc that came with the Nokia Lumia smartphones made/badged under Microsoft
@ncolvin05 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when the Zune came out. I was working at office depot, and we actually sold them. To be honest, they were really good mp3 players and had some pretty sweet features (one of which was a built in fm radio, which you had to buy an overpriced add-on for an ipod...). There was also a demo music sharing feature that let you send a song from your Zune to someone else's for something like 3 days or a week, I can't remember which. Also, the Ipod only made it big because Microsoft allowed Itunes on Windows. This opened the market up for apple's ipod. If they hadn't and instead had released the zune, apple may not be the same company it is today.
@epiccollision 4 жыл бұрын
N colvin “something, something break up the Monopoly something, something...”
@TaintLuva 4 жыл бұрын
windows can’t block on app from being on it as apps are downloaded
@johnmaurer3097 3 жыл бұрын
The iTunes interface is what kept me out of apple until the iPhone 5. My whole life until then we’d drag and drop mp3 in windows explorer. iTunes interface and “synching” was over complicated for those used to a super simple method. I didn’t migrate to iPhone until iTunes was optional and no longer required.
@marcello4258 3 жыл бұрын
never had an ipod but bought myself a 300DM creative mp3 player with a crazy amount of 256 mb internal storage and a rechargable battery via usb
@filmalpha2002 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the days when I only had a few albums on my iPod nano and that's all I have to enjoy. Somehow it made me appreciate music more...
@BixbyConsequence 4 жыл бұрын
Sort of like my "collection" of 8 cassette tapes :)
@theman36 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! You really got to know your music.
@DanielBulyovcsity 4 жыл бұрын
I don't miss it. I got to know so many good artists through recommendations. Also copying the songs with itunes was a pain in the ass. It was such a bad software.
@inthefade 4 жыл бұрын
@@BixbyConsequence I had a 24-CD book that I carried everywhere.
@chickenlegsTV 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the Zune was an actual product placement in Guardians of the Galaxy or they just did it ironically.
@bt3743 4 жыл бұрын
why would the advertise a product that was failure by the early 2010s in 2017?
@Sashazur 4 жыл бұрын
It was ironic, since the Zune had been discontinued for years.
@MysteryMii 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sashazur I also feel like they went up to Apple about featuring the iPod in the film and Apple said no.
@Slopmaster 3 жыл бұрын
It was meant to emphasize how out of touch Peter Quil was with what was going on earth since being taken away.
@ltfringr Жыл бұрын
All these years later, I hooked my Zune HD up to my hifi and it plays my lossless files perfectly, while looking great.
@ProjectCovenant Ай бұрын
The only people who don’t like Zune never had a Zune. Msoft was ahead of their time. They had music subscriptions before Spotify, they had OLeD screens before cell phones did, they had Aluminum build quality, HD Radio, you could send music to other people, music discovery was so fun and well thought out and I miss everything about it.
@nintenjoeee 4 жыл бұрын
Zune user interface then translated to Windows Phone OS which is still one of the best UI I've ever used.
@bobo42024 4 жыл бұрын
Stop kidding yourself. That tile bulshit was horrible. Worse phone OS ever made.
@nintenjoeee 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobo42024 k
@Splackavellie85 4 жыл бұрын
You obviously haven’t tried WebOS
@austinkultgen 4 жыл бұрын
I felt Windows Mobile 10 was a nice compromise between iOS’s excessive restrictions and Android’s cluttered UI.
@nikkowood4476 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobo42024 I don't think so. I actually kinda liked the tile interface
@chriswilson1968 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Zune, still have it actually. Zunes were badass.
@Vraxx7 4 жыл бұрын
I still have my HD. It's collecting dust somewhere. But, yes it was my favorite way to listen to music. The music pass was amazing! I still miss it. This coming from an Apple phone user exclusively for many years. I love apple phones because they simply work. I can't stand i-tunes though, too convoluted. I loved Zune because it was a music playing device, that simply worked and excelled at doing its basic job. Playing and storing my music. So sorry the dream had to end...
@pandashangout 4 жыл бұрын
I as well still have my Zune and still use it to this day. Did an SSD upgrade to it. I love it.
@damienhartley3222 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vraxx7 The true is that Apple, Google, and Microsoft are all playing on the same team because everyone is getting paid regardless of what you buy and the zune was just a ploy to illustrate illusion of consumer free will.
@Bojang_Bugami32 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Can't get rid of my Zune 80.
@patrickwatkins6616 4 жыл бұрын
Still use my HD for work. People can gauge how old I am when they see it lol went through the original model, the second model and got the very last zune HD at Best Buy right after they stopped making them. Lasted longer than any other device I've ever had
@joshd108 3 жыл бұрын
Never had a zune but always wanted the “squirt” feature. Now Spotify has “sessions” and it is a dream come true
@digimon916 4 жыл бұрын
Love mine. Still have it somewhere. Totally forgot how, but its kind of broken open on one side, but instead of throwing it away, i just stashed it with all my random electronics
@mattkraig 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this “tech history” style of video. Please keep it up, Quinn!
@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@rolfathan 4 жыл бұрын
The Zune HD was actually amazing. My first portable device with an OLED screen as well. Honestly, though, my favorite were the Sansa/Sandisk players up until a couple of years ago when they all removed the LOCK button of all things. I got a newer model, it would power on in my pocket, and be dead by the time I wanted to use it. Also, speaking of Metro UI, I'm still mad nothing looks as good. That was such a good UI.
@manishverma9395 Жыл бұрын
People have an unexplainable hate for microsoft. Everything they do people just hate for no reason. Some people mourn the death of windows phone in 2022, while they never bought windows phones when they were in the market.
@NathanHassall 4 жыл бұрын
I had a zune and it was amazing! It was my first mp3 player and considering this was upgrading from a tape cassette walkman that cost me a fortune in AA batteries I was absolutely pleased with the zunes functionality and sound quality. Squirting with my bros after class is a memory I will always cherish.
@serviciosdorianmenendez 4 жыл бұрын
Basically the Zune Hd is the Ipod touch of Windows Phone. P.D: You look like Starlord with that Zune.
@arsh_DSJ 4 жыл бұрын
Ah fudge! Now i want a Zune HD!
@TerryMcKean 4 жыл бұрын
Right on, Arsh DSJ... they're definitely awesome.
@odkKoma 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Cowon DAP at the time and it sounded heaps better! That’s what got me into audio. Who cares about apps?
@jonathancineus6424 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I always wondered why Zune never worked. I liked it. Shows that marketing is everything. Thank you!
@erichaynes7502 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned the iPod Nano, iRiver Click, Sony portable Mini Disc, Creative Zen, iRiver iFP-380T, iPod Mini, iPod Shuffle and the only one I really liked and still use to this day is the Zune HD.
@clintonleonard5187 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Steve Jobs is proudly showing off the dimensions when, by today's standards, it's ridiculously large.
@edwinlee2343 4 жыл бұрын
okay. Stop drooling on your dad's keyboard. He needs it for work.
@clintonleonard5187 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwinlee2343 Whatever you say Boomer.
@karenelizabeth1590 4 жыл бұрын
At the time its competitor was the Creative Nomad. That thing was a chonky beast.
@Solitaire001 4 жыл бұрын
The size was one of the things I liked about the original iPods. It was just the right size for my hand. Many later players were too small to fit comfortably in my hand.
@stevy2 4 жыл бұрын
That thing had an actual spinning platter hard drive in it because that was cheaper than flash memory.
@cpljimmyneutron 4 жыл бұрын
You failed to talk about how Microsoft carried Zune forward into their phones... at least until the Windows Phone 7 platform which switched from Zune based to Xbox based and made it an actually amazing phone to use. But yes, I personally used a Windows Phone 6 model, which not only ran Zune internally, but required Zune computer software to sync the phone to your PC. Honestly though... my favorite part about using the Phone version of Zune... was using the iTunes interface and proving people wrong when they said that you had to have an iPhone to remote control iTunes.
@Esteban7GT 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Zune HD would have taken off. I still have mine and there is no denying that the audio quality is insanely good and even better than many devices today. 😭
@Pekz00r 4 жыл бұрын
I did not know about the Zune HD, and I agree. It looks absolutely fantastic, even compared to today's devices. I knew about the Zune lineup as an epic failure. At that time I used MiniDisc-players.
@laserfloyd 4 жыл бұрын
I still have two ZuneHDs. I can't get rid of them. I just loved the interface and the ease of using it. We all use Bluetooth in our cars now but audiophiles can hear the degradation of sound. It was why I loved the ZuneHD, it just sounded great. As another commenter said, MS is either way early or way late. They sit on lots of tech and it never sees the light of day. Oh well, those were fun days while they lasted. Long live the Zune. ;)
@PradeepPurple 4 жыл бұрын
5:31.....the AVGN voice in my head going "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!!"
@TheOrisya 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@something3813 4 жыл бұрын
5:34 lmao
@LeesReviews69 4 жыл бұрын
I think the avgn fans and zune owners have a pretty big crossover.
@rhythmnation2004 4 жыл бұрын
The first MP3 player that I remember having was a 256mb San Disk, followed by a 512mb, then I finally jumped on the bandwagon circa 2007 and bought a blue iPod mini. I remember seeing a classmate’s Zune in high school. I thought it was really cool.
@THEGREENHELIUM 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh deadass they really were trying to get us to “squirt” on each other 10 years ago lmaaooo straight Wildin’ out
@ThatGuySquippy 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my Zune HD, it really is a shame they failed. Imagine a Zune smartphone of today's standards but with one of those same kick-ass DACs they used to have. Fuck, I need a change of pants now...
@sebadg5702 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i had the oportunity to try a Zune HD, it looks awesome.
@donaldbaird7849 4 жыл бұрын
A phone made for audiophiles could honestly sell very well today
@mohmmdyaserabogabr 4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldbaird7849 the lg v series already is "for" audiophiles
@samgao 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, it was called Windows Phone. And that failed too
@blindeyesurgeon6576 3 жыл бұрын
Safe to say u.. squirted.. at the end there.
@HeyItsKora 4 жыл бұрын
15:03 “bettery battery life” 16:53 “nost motably” 😂
@SkuuchiMane808 4 жыл бұрын
Nost motorboatly🤣
@jasonkh3943 4 жыл бұрын
@@SkuuchiMane808 😆
@DasHumanCentipede 4 жыл бұрын
He also says "sodder" every time he tries to say "solder" - but apparently that's normal 🤷
@peterphan227 Жыл бұрын
I had a Zune. It did not have a single-song repeat function. Unbelievable! I don't know if they ever added it, but I didn't stick around long enough to find out.
@MrGeurrilla 3 жыл бұрын
Loved my zune player. Only downside its screen randomly stopped working.
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