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this is one of the best lessons on double bass i have seen on KZfaq yet, I would love to see you on Drumeo too, you have a great way of explaining techniques.

Was stuck at 110-120 bpm, watched this video and got up to 160-170, I still need to work on control but this was amazing, thanks!

Really high quality stuff. Those mid tempos are very hard to develop, and very underestimated by non-drummer musicians.

Danke dafür! Beschreibt genau mein aktuelles Problem und genau dieses annähern der beiden Techniken hilft mir total! Genial erklärt!

My ankle motion is trash and my hip flexers hate me I think this will finally train them. Thanks a lot I always enjoy watching your videos. Cheers🤘🤘

Wie immer: ABSOLUT GROßARTIG erklärt ❗❗❗vielen Dank dafür. Grüße aus Hessen! 🙂

U should react to Josh Steffen

Thank you for this! would also love to see a video for 170 - 210 bpm

Thanks for your videos man.

This is so helpful ! I feel like I’m in school. I try to apply all the techniques, but fall short. I play six nights a week and still feel like I hit a wall. I studied privately with a well known teacher from Berkeley in Boston. Along with a some incredible players / teachers in Boston. I took a couple of lessons with Derek Roddy after moving to Miami. But playing so much for work seems to have sucked my inspiration from me, as well as drive and discipline. I’ve been blessed with many years of great gigs and travel. Now I need a push to get over this new wall. I really would like to get back to studying and working with a good teacher. I really appreciate watching your vid. Thank you so much. I’m working on the next step.. honestly.. I just want to make sure I’m honest with my self and ready to commit. I’ve always struggled with even mid tempo double bass, and endurance. Any push or motivational input would be appreciated !

Wow excellent information! The Best teaching about doble bass

thank you marthyn, I currently have the 3rd problem and i can't control it but I'm gonna work on them like you said in the video and I know it's gonna get better

Thank you a lot for this video. For me, the main message is: keep it simple. For middle tempo double bass you only need or the flat foot or the anckle motion technique. From now on I will study focusing on this two techniques for two or three months.

Ive been struggling double bass for a while mainly with the higher range of this lesson (160 -170+) but i must admit ive never thought of praciting both heel down and heel up as described. Will definatly be giving it a go. Cheers Marthyn (Y)

Thanks for the videos, they always motivate me to go practice!

I'm leaning as well, very useful video!

thank you...... I keep running into the third problem and thought, I was losing my mind when I could play at tempos like 170 but not 140 lol

Thanx for the advice man. I notice that I struggle with the balancing aspect of playing when I reach anything past 145bpm. Definitely going to start incorporating advice from this lesson.

Goodmorning Marthyn , nice Video

Two questions: 1. Would you advise the regular rock drummer, who just wants to play double bass without triggers up to 150 bpm to stick with whole leg or flat foot as a basic technique? 2. Do you differentiate between flat foot and ankle technique for didactic purposes? I ask, because my observation is that a lot of players seem to move the whole leg WITH a snap of the ankle. The faster they move the more the motion of the leg shrinks whereas the motion of the ankle gets more pronounced. Thanks for taking the time to read and maybe answering!

i am doing bass drum mastery right now, i don't have much time, and can barely get on my kit, but i am doing this as much as possible, i was having issues with trying to make sure my hip didn't move while doing the ankle motions, also i have the problem with my right foot being able do everything and my left foot being slow lol, but i am doing this shit everyday. powering through.

I would also suggest that using flatfoot on one leg and ankle technique on the other will help you to maintain balance. I have often used this combination myself, but I _can't_ really play without (two per-side) swivel, so I swivel when I do it too! :-P

Hey man......this month I kind of discovered this ankle techniek which works perfect for fast tempos.....and without to much effort....I still need to practice more, since sometimes both feet kind of work in unisonic instead of double strokes....that´s why it´s kind still hard for me to make totally well

Your vids are always so awesome and helpful... I thank you for that!

Thanks for those advices, it really helps!

Very nice, thank you very much!

Hei Marthyn, sorry for the off-topic question but I would be nice to see an episode of "Drum Teacher react to..." about Lille Grueber from Defeated Sanity. Is it possible?

excellent as always Marthyn!! Do we use same steps but incorporate alternating feet?

It's good to know I'm not the only that has today problem. I only started a month with two brass drums and I suck.

you are e saver !!!

Very very helpfull! Should I also work on my heel down stroke for mid tempos coming from the shin muscle?

I'm stuck around 140-160 with my current technique and I'm able to play around 180 with the ankle technique(just started practicing it this week) but I'm not using it musically. I'm just sitting around playing the ankle technique. My end goal is to play fast and to be able to control each note which I can't do yet. Will that come with time?

i think you need to talk about seat height and the role it plays with balance and control

I would love to see what you think about Shannon Lucas. I loved him when he was with the Black Dahlia Murder. Albums- Nocturnal and Deflorate. I hope you check him out. Also Thomas Haake on Meshuggahs 'Bleed'. That song is perfection for the feet.

Very interesting tutorial, but I noticed, that the head of the beater does not hit the center of the bassdrumhead. What is the secret behind this? Greetings and stay safe 🙏

I am left handed but I play on a right handed set up. Growing up playing other people’s drums because I didn’t have a kit is how it happened. I am right foot dominant and play the high hat open. What’s your thoughts on that? I’m 46 and feel it’s too late to retrain myself now that I have a kit. Is that incredibly uncommon?

What are the pedal settings?Spring tension for example and the tension of the drumheads?

I'm a lefty and is it good to repeat what your doing with your left with your right like 8s on left and 8s on right to make 16th notes

Great!

I just can't do that motion/technique😓. I'm so, frustrated

Cool!!!🤘

Please subtitules in spanish ...its so mucht interesting what you are teaching...but y cant understand 100% in inglish.... abrazo de gol...

Do you use flat foot for ankle technique in this vid?

hi marthyn, have you seen someone with a loose spring tension pedal play at fast tempos?i mean i tighten my springs and change my technique and its easy, but loose spring,damm its like the fast cat (another video) lol

if I want to go from single to double bass, do I need a special double bass pedal?

Tell me about your kit please

Oooh my holy fuckin god you exactly hit my fuckin point Thanks gos

It’s weird, I personally find that the faster = the harder. When I started I was only able to play 130bpm, now I can play up to 180 bpm, and for me it’s all linear: slower = easier, faster = harder. And just recently I got into heel toe and thankfully now I’ve extended my range up to 220bpm with double strokes. But being able to play over 200bpm right from the start with single strokes? And not being able to play 150? I don’t get it :)

Marthyn,what's your opinion on them Redlines ? How do you set them up ?

my upper leg hurts from holding it up. i assume this will just go away with time?

Can you react to gene hoglan playing "on my way" by galaktikon

Are those Pearl Eliminators?

Playing fast double bass is a lot harder than it seems. You have different techniques (leg, leg-ankle and ankle), different feet (strong rightfoot, weak leftfoot), certain pedal settings... Lack of stability, upper leg muscles getting tired when you have to lift up your feet all the time, feet twitching uncontrollably when you reach a certain speed... I have a lot of respect for drummers who can do this. I can't do it, and I've stopped trying. When there's no result after years of trying, when you start to dislike playing drums because of it, it's time to quit.

does throne height affect any of these techniques?

I can’t hold the tempo, myright foot gets tired and after a while can’t hold the tempo and my left can’t even hold a tempo in like 3 secounds

Im the opposite my ankles are the problem for my double bass

Im physically unable to do ankle motion and after 10 minutes of drumming my damn thighs and hips feel like they've rotten off because the hip flex technique is the only thing i can do lmao

it is very weird problem that you have