MiiCoffee Apex Settings & Pre-infusion vs non Pre-infused Shots

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People have been asking how to set the pre-infusion, how to dial in the water flow, and so on. So I made this video, exemplifying how to do it.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:27 Pre-infusion settings
1:15 Water Flow settings
3:17 Setting the Shot
3:55 Pre-infused Shot Demo
4:54 Normal Shot Demo
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Пікірлер: 47

@fumble_brewski5410 5 ай бұрын

Tom has turned the science of espresso making into an art. ☕

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback! Tom

@jamesmcken21e 5 ай бұрын

Really super content. Great technical insight 👌💯

@TomJones-tx7pb 5 ай бұрын

It is nice that the machine can set both flow rate and time for the pre-infusion and pause. With medium-dark roasts you want to get the pre-infusion saturating the puck rather quickly, because otherwise you will get channelling and uneven extraction, especially with a flat bur grinder.

@jeet-Seattle 5 ай бұрын

So many good machines Tom, thanks for your time for providing us all the knowledge.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

Yes, these days there's a smorgasbord!

@jeet-Seattle 5 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner 😊

@charliebecker 4 ай бұрын

Thanks, this is exactly what I needed. I got min a little over a week ago, and I'm finally comfortable enough with the machine to try adjusting the flow rate and trying pre-infusion. Thanks! (Oh, wait, I already said thanks)

@TomsCoffeeCorner 4 ай бұрын

You're welcome! Enjoy your new machine!

@AHarker100 5 ай бұрын

Very interesting.

@BackToBasicsInLife 5 ай бұрын

Great video! ❤ To be honest not fan of the design but Having a lot of features can be nice. In my opinion stability and repeatibility from shot to shot is more important.

@SlWsHR 5 ай бұрын

I have just learnt sooo much from you. thanks

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

I'm so glad! Thanks for your comment!

@MikeroWav3 5 ай бұрын

Interesting how the pre infused shot went to 12bars but the non pre infused shot started at 12 but settled around 10. The 2nd one looked better too

@sagigamil460 5 ай бұрын

I wait it to arrive amazon eu!

@kaush23 4 ай бұрын

Would love to see a comparison between this and the Crossland CC1. The CC1 is the original boiler - thermoblok combo. It has an OPV, but no pressure gauge

@mindaugasrimselis9378 6 ай бұрын

Nice😮

@georgiosgalanopoulos7379 5 ай бұрын

gaggia classic terminator

@Tristan_the_ultimate 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the follow up video sir Tom! Just curious up to how long can you set the preinfusion time? And does it actually have a ceiling pressure? Like does in only reach 3 to 4 bars for the preinfusion? And maybe a 0 second preinfusion pause will be okay so that the opening of the solenoid will not unseat the puck.

@saribmahmood 3 ай бұрын

did you ever find the answer to this?

@bugsbacon3025 4 ай бұрын

Is this machine a good starting machine for my coffee journey? Should you spend more on machine than the grinder & if so which grinder to go with this? Watching your channel has got me to the point I want to break free from filter coffee into expresso.❤

@bugsbacon3025 4 ай бұрын

To add Tom I like the Eureka Mignon Specialita Coffee Grinder to. So together do they punch well above their price compared to an all in one bean to cup machine? Perhaps a video comparison?

@juanmasiman 5 ай бұрын

Would you recommend this over a Gaggia Classic Evo Pro? I have a DF64 on order and looking to buy either this, GCP or Bambino Plus. Any help is appreciated.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

I would, yes. No boiler coating issues here, since it's SS. GCP Evo is having issues with the coating flaking off.

@orsiluthier 23 күн бұрын

I am just about to pull the trigger on the DF54 + Delonghi ECP (used). May I stretch the budget to get this one instead? I have read some units are shipped without the ability to set the Preinfusion

@TomsCoffeeCorner 23 күн бұрын

Apex can set pre-infusion, while Legato cannot. But the pre-infusion isn’t proper anyway, as it closes the solenoid and cuts off the shot.

@summeryong 5 ай бұрын

Hey Tom, I saw you other videos about the budget espresso machine and you prefer the ECP3420 over the dedica. You mentioned that pre-infusion is not really important, that's why you chose ECP3420 over the dedica. May I know if that's still applicable?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

I like pre-infusion just fine in the case of Delonghi - they don't release the pressure, as the MiiCoffee does. But I still find the ECP better than the Dedica.

@trumpeter6147 4 ай бұрын

would be great to know if your coffee is 100% arabica or its blend with robusta. Such crema on arabica is incredibel :). And I would like to know why the pre-infusion version pulled 13 bar and non pre-infusion 9bar

@TomsCoffeeCorner 4 ай бұрын

I think it was 80% arabica and 20% robusta here. Cheers! You have to pay close attention to the pressure profile. It generally goes up to 12-13 bar in the beginning, and then reduces to 9 or 8 bar later in the shot. Cheers!

@tsquires3 5 ай бұрын

How does adjusting (reducing) water flow impact grind size? I would imagine you would need to grind coarser to account for the slower flow, but I may be incorrect in my thinking.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

It doesn't seem like that to me. I grind normal, and the flow ramps up the pressure more slowly, resulting in what I think is a better saturated puck. That's at least my perception.

@tsquires3 5 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for the response. I just adjusted my Apex to 5ml/sec. Didn't adjust the grind setting on my DF64P, and the shot ran just a smidge slower, but overall, much better extraction and flavor than factory.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

Eggggcellent!@@tsquires3

@jecstrike 5 ай бұрын

Hmmmm are all the new models have that function of the p[re infusion on the middle button? or this has been upgraded to something.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

MiiCoffee has the pre-infusion right now. I think Turin doesn't yet, but I bet they will.

@jecstrike 5 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner oh ok. Here in the philippines the name of the model is Gemilai 3007L. So I was curious if they are the same bcoz the pre infusion is a big plus for that unit.

@tully348 5 ай бұрын

How did you get the firmware update? Did you have to get a different machine?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

Currently, the MiiCoffee machines have the updated pre-infusion. I am betting that the next batch from Turin will also be updated. Cheers!

@Oneirophrenian 5 ай бұрын

When using the delonghi dedica with a depresurized basket, it happens that when using 18 grams of coffee, the only way that I can get the water to flow over all the Puck is to give it 2 instances of preinfusion, so when the coffee starts to drip, I run the pump to do my shot of espresso as usual. So, how can preinfusion affect the final product? I don't know, I just became so frustrated when taking out the Puck of coffee and seeing the bottom part dry.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

Agreed! But maybe 18 grams was a little overdosed? I normally just go up to 15-16 grams on mine. Cheers!

@Oneirophrenian 5 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner I will try using 16 grams next time!

@petes_CE 5 ай бұрын

it seems like playing around with the flow rate is more effective than the "pre-infusion" settings.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын

Yes sir!

@tomscott4438 3 ай бұрын

But it doesn't actually pre-infuse for 7 seconds, it just coming at full pressure but with a delay. Why are you misleading? Why is everyone on KZfaq touting this as a new wonder machine? It's been around for almost 5 years under several (Turin, MiiCoffee, Gemilai... ) brands that have been around for the past 5 years. So, why now? My guess is that everyone is trying to capitalize on the success of the DF64 grinder.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 3 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video? I show that the pre-infusion doesn't work properly, and I say as much in the video. It's better to avoid the pre-infusion.