Some video issue with the camera yes.

Tom whats better the df5; or the d40+ im just wondering if its worth chipping in 30 extra for the 54. And will they both work well with a la pavoni

turin, miicoffee, koryaiko all same company

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Haha, tell me about it. Happens too often. But yes, this is pretty sweet. Feels a fair bit nicer than the D40, too. I think it'll be a good seller when it's in stock. The ionizer is awesome - super fluffy grinds!

Thanks for watching! Florida is lovely! 🌴

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I thought an unboxing might be fun, live. Cheers!

I'm surprised myself!

The anti-popcorner seems to be very similar to the plate used in the new DF83V. At least based on the reviews I saw. Cheers!

Thank you for watching! I think this DF54 could be a big hit. Quality feels quite a bit nicer than the ESP.

The Eureka Mignons are either 50 or 55mm, some are larger in their Turbo line. But yes, very similar. ECP + DF54 would make an excellent bargain combo. Cheers!

That's true, 54mm is kinda uncommon afaik.

Yes, I like to wait until I see the first droplets coming out, then cut the pump for a bit. Cheers!

There numerous comparing the original Turin DF64 to the Niche, about 2 years ago.

Well I would have to compare them side by side with the same beans, and the encore is a conical grinder vs this flat. That being said, I think this will ultimately do better on taste, and while I prefer products that are designed in the USA, this one is undoubtedly better build quality and sweeter design all around. The "plasma generator" is pretty sweet too, and the grounds come out looking fluffy and beautiful. At least those are my initial impressions.

I have not, since I have never tried making turkish, but I bet it can. I mean I was at 15, and that was plenty fine for espresso. 👍

It's a nice little tamper I got off of Amazon. It doesn't leave any grounds on the basket wall.

I won't say it's better, because I love Eureka. But it's in the same league, imho.

Tnx , you helped me much

DF54 feels better all around.

I think this will quickly cannabilize the D40+ sales.

@@TomsCoffeeCorner So make of this what you will, but they had been listing open box D40+ for $149, now they have one for $139. I wonder if the D40+ is gonna drop to $179 or 189 US sometime soon? It makes sense, and makes it extremely attractive. I'm loving mine, just sat down after grinding some more on day 2 with the 40+. EDIT: it just dawned on me, yes, the D40+ might drop in price, but there is zero reason to do it since the DF54 doesn't hit until almost April. My guess is they will stock up on D40+, and drop it's price right as the 54 hits so that when it sells out, people have a nice fallback option.

I think this will fair very well! Probably about the same performance, albeit slower due to the de-static device.

Thanks for the visit, doing well, thanks! Hope you are too. Cheers!

It’s just as slow, but way more solid. More intuitive to use.

The DF54 is brand new, from MiiCoffee and Turin. You might be thinking of the DF64?

@@TomsCoffeeCorner yes, sorry, it is the DF64, the original one, SS body. Was around $400. Was often compared to the Niche. Any idea what it's worth today, used? Better built than current models?

I've just used this for the video so far, but I think this guy has a lot of potential in the market. It could make the Opus and ESP superfluous going forwards.

@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom..

Thanks!

Good question - I don't know that yet! Will ask the manufacturer.

I should do a comparison of all the grinders I have. Good idea for a video.

Try 15 for espresso.

@@TomsCoffeeCorner noted!

@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks! be great if could use the grinder with the bambino to show!! love your channel!

@@TomsCoffeeCorner ive tried 15, came too slow, i had to move 18-20 for df54 - do you think that's still fine?

Just received mine here in Dubai yesterday, I didn’t get to find the zero point yet, but did two shots. One at 13 for espresso and it came out too fast. Did another at 5 and I got 36g from an 18g at 18seconds. Will probably do another later at 3 to see if I get 36g from 18g in 20-25 seconds

Yes, although the DF54 is slated to be available for order end of March, as it were. Cheers!

$300 for a 1.5 yr old gen 1 is a rip off

@@allen.t THANK YOU!!! I bought his tricked out barely used Gaggia CP for $350. Came with fancy showhead, 9 bar spring, fancy tamper with a spring inside, naked baskets, and a nice de-clumper. That was a bargain but TBH the DF-54 featured in the video seems much better for home use... at $229 new (when it is available anyway).

I think you're right. At least that's my first impression. This is a little faster than the Opus. Both have the plasma generating ionizer (did I say that right?). But this one feels substantial, and is unstepped in grinding. Also much less messy than the Opus.

@@TomsCoffeeCorneryep you’re right! And making micro adjustments isn’t a headache unlike the Opus.

1400 rpm according to MiiCoffee. The X54 by Mahlkönig uses a 70 watt motor, just for reference.

@@TomsCoffeeCorner then pardon please... didn't know that the Mahlzwerg=Grinding Dwarf" has so littler pow e r....

I guess you touch on the burrs towards the end, and since its only 17 hours from upload, I doubt you know too much more about that, LOL. cheers. I do love the Mignon, but I hate that I dont know what setting its on, and that I dont like this ones dosing. But, not willing to shell out too much for one that is as good in performance. The 55mm(its actually 54mm) runs with a 300 or 320watt motor, so this being 150 is not really a confidence booster on its long life, and like you did do a cold start, which I have been running this grinder for years on a cold start with zero issues on the densest of beans, so maybe some tougher beans, maybe out of the freezer can stump it? lol. I actually think the 53-56mm range would be the sweet spot for single dosing, but, I dont know...and I cant see a reason why a 84mm would make better espresso? I have YET to see a video explaining anything in this area; 54mm vs 60 or 80+mm burrs making any flavor difference that you cant get with smaller burrs. Even if the conclusion is undetermined, Y has no videos of this, and would be a popular one (hurry before Lance does one).

You're right about the Mignon dial - they are super tough to dial in between brew methods. I just leave it at espresso. I agree that the Mignon's 310 watt motor gives me more confidence than a 150 watt motor, but it's still better than most grinders in this price range. Finally, I also don't think that I can determine a difference in 83 vs 54mm burrs. For me, it's just a time savings, to have larger burrs. Maybe they make a slight difference in heat dissipation, but I highly doubt that would make a difference that I could perceive in taste. In fact, I think that the burrs for home grinders have just been getting larger and larger to increase revenue for manufacturers. All that being said, I imagine someone like Lance could point out differences between burrs (their geometries for sure, but maybe size too?). But for normal users, I don't think it makes a veritable difference.

Thanks for the feedback, gives me a bit of reassurance :-) Im enjoying your perspective, and I will chime in, in the future about taste profiles, on how suggestive wording actually makes you think of the notes descrived, and your brain is usually the one recolecting the falvor, and why you think of it, as the tastes we get are not much of what we really get from the cup. But more on that and the psychology another time. Cheers!@@TomsCoffeeCorner

Where do you live? That's the key question. Have any local roasters around you?

@@TomsCoffeeCornerIdaho Meridian

@@TomsCoffeeCornerI’ll check out I always buy my beans in Costco