Mike Bickle's Spiritual Death Trap: IHOP-KC Turned Christians Into Unbelievers

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2 ай бұрын

Back in October a former member posted an hour-long video about her experience and said she is no longer a Christian because of the spiritual abuse at IHOP-KC. This is a sad consequence almost nobody wants to talk about.
Spiritual abuse as a concept and point of discussion is still fairly new. The questions that come up are what is it and what can its effect be? And how bad was it at IHOP-KC?
We have heard about some who were spiritually abused and stopped going to church, but not so much about those who not only stopped going to church but also left the faith.
How many kids arrived in Kansas City to help start a global revival but departed as atheists? Imagine as a parent sending your daughter there and funding the experience then finding out she abandoned God.
People like Rick Joyner talk about restoring Bickle to ministry but don't talk about restoring the abuse victims to their relationship with God.
Restitution is great as a concept and important, but what about those who are no longer walking with Christ? What are Isaac Bennett and IHOP-KC leaders going to do about this? What is God going to do to them if they do nothing?
Jesus told them this parable:
"Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."
Luke 15:3-7

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@user-bk3wo9ib4h
@user-bk3wo9ib4h 2 ай бұрын
the number of views on videos informing on ihopkc topics are falling fast
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
@user-bk3wo9ib4h 2 ай бұрын
3 days ago, turn out the lights, the parties over
@user-si7go6pb4b
@user-si7go6pb4b 2 ай бұрын
Jesus said go into all the world and preach the gospel, it is the Word that sets us free
@alanmittan4651
@alanmittan4651 2 ай бұрын
We were on staff there for 20 yrs and when we left in 2019, we left Charismania totally for an evangelical church. Our pastor teachs ONLY the Bible and full books verse by verse. It is like hearing truth for the first time in decades. We don't miss the crazy dreams and false prophecies and all the hyped up emotionalism a bit.
@dbaxley4342
@dbaxley4342 2 ай бұрын
There were seasons when ihop was way out there. And, there were seasons when the Lord greatly used them. The global intercession, the worship team, the powerful gift too the Nations will remain. It’s called GROWTH … it’s called MATURITY … ! It’s sad ! Sad that the church in America is so easily swayed by lack of understanding regarding the “gifts of the Spirit,” and as always… throws out the bath water, including the Truth that the baby has too MATURE. !!!! One can preach, and teach the word all their days. But, the Truth is, without the illumination of the Holy Spirit on that scripture, the depth of revelation will NEVER COME too LIFE. 😢. Lord, help the Church, on the aUSA, help their attitude toward the FULL Counsel of GOD 😫 These DAYS Mike Bickle is an Extra- Ordinary Man of God, carrying Extravagant Depth and Revelation.
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
@user-bk3wo9ib4h 22 күн бұрын
@@dbaxley4342 yikes
@ArmchairInvestigater
@ArmchairInvestigater Ай бұрын
Jeremiah 29 8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed. 9 For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 23 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. 26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; 27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
@marijkeambrosius4233
@marijkeambrosius4233 2 ай бұрын
You also could title this subject as:Mike Bickle's spiritual death trap to turn deceived into deceivers. In God's grace it is possible for a christian to depart from any false faith. It is impossible for a christian to depart from the faith in THE Jesus Christ of Scripture, because God Himself put that faith in the believer, He starts and finishes that glorious work in the heart of those whom He chose, whom He foreknows, before the creation of the world in Christ, to work out in those new hearts the likeness of Jesus Christ. [ He choosed not of any reason of goodness in some man, only because HE wants it, ] This is the Truth.
@Bobepc
@Bobepc 2 ай бұрын
Calvinist mumbo-jumbo…. He gives the measure of faith to EVERY man, those who choose to follow Christ become the elect. God is no respecter of persons but rich unto any and all who will call upon Him.
@marijkeambrosius4233
@marijkeambrosius4233 2 ай бұрын
Mumbo jumbo.????....you skip a whole lot of many Bible Word.
@marijkeambrosius4233
@marijkeambrosius4233 2 ай бұрын
@@Bobepc Fyi: I heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Lord God gave me the faith in Christ Jesus at being desperate convinced of my complete darkness towards Him. When He took me of that frightening road to eternal darkness, I repented. My darkness and sins are judged on His work on the cross and His blood covers that and my sinful nature. Even now, knowing Christ better and better, my sorrow over my sins and sinful natural nature is bigger than when I first knew Jesus Christ's compassion, mercy and lovingkindness. But also my deep joy of knowing Him and the Father enhances. I was not raised in a christian home. I had nor have knowlegde of the mindset of a calvinist. I read the whole Bible slowly for years and years and trust the Word and believe all the Word with joy and grief, because of His graceful patience; waiting and working for Him to come to judge all unrighteous, vengeful worldly man. Waiting and working for Him to end the time. Probably I am much more strict than any 'calvinist' you can imagine. So, predestination by God for living in the light in Christ, is true. That I am His child is not because He found any good in me, even on the contrary. No man is good in the eyes of God. Why is it so hard to acknowlegde that God puts the believe in Christ in your heart? The Bible tells the believer on every page that God is the One Who does everything on earth. By the way, almost all texts where you find 'every, all man' is about the elect of God. Context context context. He starts the work of molding to the image of His Son in them until their death or until He comes back. If you bobepc share the faith in Christ, is your salvation and belonging to Christ of your choice or not? Of course we reversed to Him, in believing the gospel. Is it hard to acknowlegde that before we did so, God changed our hearts, opened our ears? The Bible says so. If a man could choose for Christ Jesus of Scripture, we must assume that there is something good in man, is not it? God tells man that He finds nothing of any worth for Him. Therefore the child of God is His new creation. You say: 'God is no respecter of persons but rich unto any and all who will call upon Him'. Thank you, that is exactly what God says. God elaborate the salvation during the lifetime of the believer, in fiery trials. (the word choose is rare in Scripture, God uses it in regard to those He chose in His Old and now in His New Covenant) It is not superfluous to call 'choosers for Christ become the elect'? It does not add anything wonderful to the chooser. No, the elect are elect and foreknown before the beginning of the world. The Bible tells and confirms that over and over. God does it this way. It is also clearly written in Scripture that God surely does not love every man. I hope that you will find truth. Better read the KJv based on all the Texts of the Brethren of old. Greetings, with regards
@Bobepc
@Bobepc 2 ай бұрын
@@marijkeambrosius4233 - Thinking that God chose you special and rejected your neighbor with absolutely no hope is the epitome of thinking God saw “something good or special about you”, it is elitism and pride in its highest form. On top of that, to think you have mastered the scriptures and have come to the correct interpretation and “context, context, context” of predestination and election above your “lesser” non-Calvinist brethren is just another display of arrogance and pride, I don’t buy the phony humility act. No, you are NOT special, God did not give you a special privilege that he didn’t give EVERY MAN that would simply repent, believe, put their trust in Christ, and follow Him faithfully. As Peter said in Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL MEN EVERYWHERE to repent. And Rom 10:12-13 - For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over ALL is rich unto ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM. For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Don’t try to “context” (twist) those verses and change what they say to fit your narrow Reformed/Calvinist dogma.
@Bobepc
@Bobepc 2 ай бұрын
@@marijkeambrosius4233 - I apologize, my comments were overboard towards you and more directed at the numerous Refomed/Calvinists who have condescendingly dismissed my viewpoint and said I just don’t read the scriptures, which is not true. I study and meditate on scripture daily, I just come to a different conclusion on the workings of sovereignty, predestination and election. I hold to the classic John Wesley view that it is based on Gods foreknowledge of the future in regards to a person’s faith. Not predetermined, just pre known.
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