Mike Dawson's Snare of the Week, Episode 5: Slingerland Chrome-Over-Brass 5x14 and 6.5x14 Sound King

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6 жыл бұрын

All-purpose, rock & roll workhorses right here! Slingerland chrome over brass Sound Kings. I love these slightly overlooked snares for a classic snare sound with a big, smacking attack, dense, controlled tone, and quick decay. They love the medium and lower tunings, and copious amounts of dampening. Here, I'm featuring a 5x14 from the early '60s that I rescued from a trash pile in high school and a 6.5x14 that was my first vintage drum purchase.

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@tmorris7243 8 ай бұрын

Just restored a 6.5 and it sounds great! Love the brass character. Full and very well behaved! Excellent recording drum!

@MikeDawsonDrums 8 ай бұрын

Rock on!

@keithbenson2627 Жыл бұрын

I love Slingerland Snare drums ! Very clean and punchy without that ringing sound that you get from other drum brands especially Ludwig !!

@MikeDawsonDrums Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

@RedeyePerc 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the classic fit information. I've got an old Gretsch 4160 COB that's slightly warped. I'm going to check those out.

@MikeDawsonDrums 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Those heads have been super helpful for me. Hope they work out for you.

@TheStudioDrummer 4 жыл бұрын

Great sounds, Mike! I'm looking at some Vintage Slingerland snares; your video helped- thanks!

@Ds_Drums Жыл бұрын

That same drum was my first snare drum. Since then I have aquired 8 more snare drums for various reasons but that Slingerland is the one I have recorded and toured with the most. I just change the heads and tune the drum to match the style of music for my assignment and that drum is amazing. If you only have one snare drum that type of drum is ALL YOU NEED. It can fit in any situation.

@jaggass 3 жыл бұрын

Jeff Porcaro used one of these in the late 70's/ early 80's.

@brianchisnell1548 3 жыл бұрын

My 6.5 Gene brass is one of my go to. Wide open. No buggers

@thegayge 6 жыл бұрын

Man damn. That 6.5" is killing me.

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

AJ Donahue she’s a beauty. Get y’rself one!

@deejaaywalker2314 4 жыл бұрын

I'm considering buying a 5" version at the moment, so I came here for sound clips. I like what I hear but would loved to also have heard the shell with no gels, just the stock sound as I usually enjoy hearing overtones and deciding how pleasing/colourful they are for my taste. Thanks for doing the video though!

@deaterk 6 жыл бұрын

Michael!...I love your channel. (I may have made a similar comment previously) but it bears repeating...good production values, excellent content, useful information, and truly superior sound. The perfect combination! Thank You for all your time and effort and for sharing your expertise. One last question; Where are you based?

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Ken! I'm in the NYC area.

@BuckAugust 6 жыл бұрын

Heck yesss! 👊🏻

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

Woot woot!

@jaymeramirez7435 Ай бұрын

I just scored a one yesterday… 70’s black and silver badge. 3 lines. All original including case. $40. Looks near mint after polishing it. No rust or pitting. Time capsule. Idk if it is brass. It sings like brass shell when tuned high. I mean it reminded me the Stewart Copeland snare. 🤷🏿

@MikeDawsonDrums Ай бұрын

Nice find! That’s most likely brass. Enjoy it!

@jaymeramirez7435 Ай бұрын

@@MikeDawsonDrumsthanks Mike. I really don’t want it to be brass. 😆 I don’t own a brass and need one. And that was my excuse to buy a Black Beauty. But damn it has THAT brass overtone. I was hoping not to like it so I could flip it.

@Yngve_Dalen 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 6 1/2 lying in the booth. I think I have to brush dust off it and start using it.😀 I really like the tuning you have on your 6 1/2, its sounds really good. Do you remember which head pitches you tune the top and bottom to? Thanks Yngve, Norway

@MikeDawsonDrums 5 жыл бұрын

Yngve Dalen pretty sure the top head was pitched to B. Bottom is always tight, around G.

@Yngve_Dalen 5 жыл бұрын

Mike Dawson Thanks a lot 😀

@sparknado 6 жыл бұрын

It's my understanding the first drum with the smooth shell (without the 3 lines) is most likely a chrome over steel and the second drum that has the 3 lines is most likely a chrome over brass. Both really great drums! If you want to check you could try the magnet test -- magnet will stick to steel but will not stick to brass.

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

It's definitely brass. When I drilled the holes for the throw-off, some brass shavings fell out. ;)

@sparknado 6 жыл бұрын

If you're referring to the smooth shelled version, that's very interesting.

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

Check out page 13: www.drumarchive.com/slingerland/Slingerland1963a.pdf

@roybeckerman9253 6 жыл бұрын

Can you do an unmuffled version.

@roybeckerman9253 5 жыл бұрын

Ludwig and Gretsch make a good COB snare...best tuned high.

@r.a.8590 4 жыл бұрын

Just grabbed me the Gene Krupa 6.5"x14" COB snare!! Can't wait to play it. Also, your Ludwig kit sounds insane here. Are those 13" and 16" toms?

@musicxtn Жыл бұрын

Love the sound of these snares man and the sound you are getting!! Thanks for this video. Is that an SM57 and 451 you are using on the snare? Anything on the bottom snare? I’d love to know what mics you are using on the drums as well as the whole kit for this sound (so 70s!) and also if your 5x14 is a 130 or 131? Thanks heaps?

@MikeDawsonDrums Жыл бұрын

I’ll do a mic rundown sometime soon. (Great idea!) I currently have an SM57 and a Blue Hummingbird on top and another SM57 on bottom. In this video, I had an MXL 604 on top in place of the Hummingbird.

@musicxtn Жыл бұрын

@@MikeDawsonDrums great info! Thank you!

@roybeckerman9253 4 жыл бұрын

I have a Gretsch Brooklyn COB snare...lovely sound, but never had the need for any muffling. I adjust the snare tuning accordingly.

@remotexpolde 4 жыл бұрын

yeah... May as well put a pizza on that thing. Killed every last amazing drop of potential putting that crap on there. ...drives me to hurl hammers

@roybeckerman9253 4 жыл бұрын

Jess Vera All drums sound the same, when you muffle them. Destroys the beauty of legendary drums.

@remotexpolde 4 жыл бұрын

@@roybeckerman9253 Ammennnnzzzz to that!

@roybeckerman9253 4 жыл бұрын

Jess Vera Imagine Buddy Rich or Gene Krupa muffling snares to death...never !

@remotexpolde 4 жыл бұрын

@@roybeckerman9253 NOOoo! The Tears!! I Can't!!! ;) ..Man, I have a 1929 14 x 26" Ludwig Pioneer bass drum I have been using as my only bass drum since 1992. It has been on every last record I've ever done. No muffling, No hole.. Whenever I do a gig.. Same thing. "Where's the hole?" -After I politely educate them to kindly mic it with Anything but a "kick drum mic", -a pair of giant eyes come back and ask how I get that sound. -Sir Bonham had nothing but felt strips (which is essentially what I use albeit contained inside the reso head) and sometimes/mostly mic'd with a 58 or equivalent. This beast is all Mahogany.. and moves some serious air with a punch. So nice to hear another player doesn't snuff out their drums. Cheers!

@mountainhobbit1971 6 жыл бұрын

damn your mix for that kick drum has a really punchy deep thudy 'boofy' sound in my speakers! sounds cool. but louder in the mix with the rest of the drums. I love vintage drums.

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that! The sub mic channel was cranked a bit high.

@Paisteconvert 4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeDawsonDrums What size is your kick drum?

@MikeDawsonDrums 4 жыл бұрын

Paisteconvert 14x22

@Paisteconvert 4 жыл бұрын

@@MikeDawsonDrums Classic Maple or some other series?

@MikeDawsonDrums 4 жыл бұрын

Paisteconvert it’s from 1968, so whatever they called them back then. 😂

@briancaseylee4153 2 жыл бұрын

around what hz do you tune the top and bottom head on the 6.5 to get this tone? I'm obsessed lol. Love the video!

@MikeDawsonDrums 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t recall exactly but most likely the top was around C or C# and the bottom at F#.

@briancaseylee4153 2 жыл бұрын

Oh nice ok so for any drum nerds out there, would that be the top lug frequency at 277hz C#4, bottom lug at 369hz F#4, making a fundamental of around 185hz F#3? I'm just learning about all of this, thx for responding!

@carlupthegrove262 6 жыл бұрын

NICE!!! I have a Slingerland COB 5X14 probably from early 70s ....I like it tuned up but I'm going to try the low tuning with the muffling to see how it sounds.

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

I don't think you'll be disappointed.

@ThomasMYoutube 6 жыл бұрын

funkay! ur all about that deep funky snare arnt U....

@MikeDawsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, all day/all night.

@danlozza 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review, great drums. It is always a matter of taste, but for a review I wanna hear what the drum (s) sounds like wide open. This is the only way to actually judge what a drum can do any drum can be muffled to any sound but not all drums can sing, project, and hold a tune.....food for thought. U

@MikeDawsonDrums 4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Lozza point taken but I’m presenting these drums as I use them.