He was ahead of it's time.Even today in 21st century,many fitness instructors and strength and nutrition experts are still spreading myths and lies.Mike was a genuine and sincere guy in giving advice on training and nutrition.

I haven't had a whey protein shake since 2005. It started as a 1 year experiment to see if it would negatively effect my muscle growth. 17 years later, thousands of dollars saved by not buying tubs of whey protein powder, and I've built my most muscular body ever at age 58. Moderate amounts of beef, chicken, fish, eggs, beans, lentils, and quinoa.

It's NOT protein grams, per pound of 'BODY WEIGHT', but it should rather be protein grams, per pound of 'LEAN MUSCLE MASS'. Even PHd. Dr. Fred Hatfield said, "You NEVER feed, your TOTAL BODY WEIGHT, YOU ONLY FEED your 'LEAN MUSCLE MASS'! ".

This short lesson on the biology of muscle contains all you need to know to make the connection for any level of fitness at any age. Thanks to the legendary Mike Mentzer.

I really appreciated Mike's scientific approach (as opposed to Arnold who followed what Weider said) and looked indepth in scientific facts for evidence. He really was the rebel of conventional thinking among the masses which is found in a few who question the establishments where profit and deceit happen.

Mike had an impressive physique and an even more impressive mind. Edit: everyone knows successful pro bodybuilders all use steroids, including Mike. It's also pretty common knowledge that there were other substance issues going on. I still stand by my original comment. People aren't simple, one dimensional beings and Mr. Mentzer was no exception.

Literally every question I have this video has the answer. No ads, no bs straight to the point.

Mike Mentzer seems always to make sense, especially when challenging accepted body building whiz dumb Keep these priceless audios coming John

He’s a genius he was finishing medical studies while bodybuilding

Loving these Mentzer uploads...keep them coming.

When you put all your points into Strength and Intelligence 💪🏻

What I love about people like Mentzer is they have/had the intelligence and integrity to challenge convention and see beyond “expert” opinions. Pioneers are always like that. Society never had all the answers at any one time and breakthroughs can come from anywhere. All it takes is intelligence and an open mind.

Mentzer certainly caused me to think more outside the box about bodybuilding. But protein supplements are big business, so good luck with convincing guys to not consume far more than they really need.

To say Mentzer was ahead of his time not only from a physique and training standpoint is an understatement!

Really appreciate these videos man! Thank you 🙏

i say this a lot to my friends and no ones believes me. i worked out for 1 year eating around 1,8 / 2.0 G of protein per KG bodyweight, i gainned a lot of weight and "muscle" i had to stop eating that much so i was eating like 1g of protein per KG of bodyweight for like 4 months and i just lost fat and not muscle which made me question everything about this protein industry they just wanna sell

Thank you for sharing Mentzer nuggets. The man knew so much...

Out of the perspective of protein as a building block of muscle, he is spot on and the analogy with water is valid. What he forgot/wasn´t discovered yet, is the fact that certain amino acids are also signalling molecules for protein synthesis. Therefore, while eating more protein doesn´t necessarily favour better outcomes, eating it regularly seems to be advantageous. Just wanted to say this since everybody seems to praise mentzer as the early godfather of science

Always up for learning and gaining knowledge

Joe Weider was a marketing genius, period! Not a 'Guru', not a 'trainer', a marketer. Conversely, Mike Mentzer performed extensive research, aided and abetted by Art Jones, a scientist, and Mikes' principles, followed properly, WORK, just that simple!

I like videos like this because it reminds me of Ric Drasin! He has a channel still up, filled with golden age stuff like this. I appreciate the old school simplified information like Mike here says.

I'm eating 60-70g protein and 1800cal a day, and I'm the strongest, leanest and muscular that I've ever been. Go figure...

I love this man!!! Ths truth is so powerful, and he just spoke it because thats all he knew!!!

Mike was such an admirable person, especially his inner side, the outer was just the result.

When I was 22 years old I was a starving student and bought my first protein. Never consumed the recommended dosages- too expensive. And I had great strength and look good. At 46 just bought whey protein powder again after 10 years not consuming it. I still don’t consume as recommended and feel great and look better then most my age. I only use it when I feel too worn out and dont want to chew my food. Use real food guys.

Coach Greg loves this!!

I think people forget the "supplement" part of protein supplements. They are meant to supplement your normal daily diet, not become your daily diet.

I have been building and maintaining a pretty good physique for years and I can probably count the days I've followed the "1 gram per pound of bodyweight" rule on one hand. And if I did have 180 grams of protein, it was probably unintentional when I was at a cookout having ribs and hamburgers all day. I'd say I get less than 100 each day and my body is not cannibalizing itself.

This man was the most important person we ever needed in the fitness field. Everyone else just spit information, this guy used to spit knowledge! I always remember the golden words: "the specific" & "the only required". If Bodybuilding stayed all natural forever, this man's knowledge would've revolutionalised everything. And the fact that Natty Legends like Steve Reeves agreed with his Training Principles makes it evergreen that people before him & after him agree to the principles so much & the problems & solutions he talks about were relevant back then & are still relevant. Just Too GOATed!

That point hit home about the water, too-you wouldn’t binge on water thinking it would make your muscles big. Makes sense it wouldn’t work with protein, either.

This is a very simple way to look at a very complex issue. To say over-eating the same amount of calories in protein vs carbs will result in the same amount of fat gain isn't necessarily true if you look at the thermic effect of macronutrients. for most people with a balanced diet, this may be inconsequential, but moving to a higher protein diet has shown in studies to aid in weight loss. Protein also helps with satiety. Do I think people over-consume protein and think it'll help them grow faster? Yes. This video is spot on in that regard, though there are benefits in my opinion to moving to a slightly higher protein intake while keeping calories the same. Personally, I'd rather go over my "protein maintenance" number by a moderate amount and keep my calories at maintenance. That way I have what I need to repair and grow. I think of it like praying - If it actually makes a difference, great. If not, no one really suffers. And yes, stay hydrated, y'all.

This makes sense. You look at long-term prison inmates getting monstrous, while having access to far less protein than the average person.

Mentzer was a genius. His HIT was ahead of it's time, a mixture of meta physics and training..

I think there are several misconceptions in this lecture. protein has a higher TEF than carbohydrates and fat, so eating excess calories from protein will in fact not make you as fat as eating those from carbohydrates and fats. it's also very satiating so chances are you won't eat as much. but what's more important he completely ignores the effect of certain amino acids on triggering MTOR and protein biosynthesis. it's not only about being a building block as it was believed for some time. it's about increasing the rate of building processes in the body.

If you are associated with Weider then you need enough protein for 3 large men. Mike had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel when he gave scientific-based advice. Fortunately, as a physics professor, I have never been afraid to give folks the facts and Mike was the same way. I heard him give this advice in early 1979 at Syracuse Bodybuilding (Liverpool, NY) during his seminar. One of the listeners was a tall, skinny 16-year-old hoping to learn from the master. Now the 16-year-old will be 60 in 2022 and still talking about that seminar in 1979. RIP the master (not the Master Blaster - Joe Weider).

The last line is so true.

These are priceless … thanks for posting John!

Another interesting video. Thank you. Perhaps an interesting observation is the protein levels of mothers milk, which are below 10%. Yet we grow immensely during the period of consuming this.

PS thanks for the recent posts. I enjoyed them

Thank you for this John Little. I really enjoy listening to this man speak and learning more truths than hype. I certainly do not have the genetics to build an inordinate amount of muscle, but there are still big benefits to training with weights and learning of the realistic benefits of good nutrition as well. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

This is interesting stuff and Mike was a clever guy and successful bodybuilder. I don't know enough to comment on the figures given here, but in principle he's right that some people wanting to grow muscle get caught up in consuming enormous amounts of protein, far more than is actually required. MM also broke away from the belief that to be a successful pro it was necessary to train daily for 4, 5 or 6 hours per day. Instead he trained 3-4x per week for 30 mins or so per session, totalling around a couple of hours per week. He developed a 'high intensity' system. Very sad that MM and his bro Ray died young from organ failure, almost certainly steroid related.

Mike Mentzer was ahead of his time. He talked about rest days and things that were relavent to us as 80's bodybuilders. He didnt try to screw us over like some famous 80's bodybuilders did, by having us carry out workouts that would kill a bull, and take all kinds of the latest fad supplements whilst injecting steroids. I am not saying Mike was clean, but he at least tried to tell us, that we needed rest days - something you dont need when taking steroids.

Great minds and a great body. Mike was a true innovator. Of course nutritional science has moved ahead so don’t take what he says in this video to literally.

Such a HOLIDAY treat

smart man and 100% correct.... listen up

First time I've heard him speak. This guy was a genius.

would be cool to hear his take on carbs and insulin resistance

Heavy Duty Mike Mentzer was a rare genius who was also articulate, strong and muscular.

Makes a lot of sense, however we were also talking about a man who clearly was using outside substances in order to obtain/maintain The muscle size that he had. No way you’re doing that with minimal amounts of protein. Let’s get real here for a second. However I can definitely vouch that sometimes even eating 1 g per pound a day for me can feel a bit much.

I love listening to Mike Mentzer for motivation but I know 1 set per exercise and 1 body part once every week isn't right for me. Especially as I am just starting to get back into it seriously after not doing any lifting for a few years. Thanks for the videos and keeping this stuff alive. And I do plan on buying some t shirts, a hoodie, and maybe the coffee mug. All the best until my next comment. Cheers!

Protein powder and amino acids were originally used on hospital patients with compromised digestion.

LEGEND 🏆

the moral of the story is just eat a balanced diet and be in a slight calorie surplus (honestly the easiest way to do this is just to overshoot by a few hundred even) granted, you should still make sure you eat proteins, some is lost to burn energy, some is not absorbed, most is used in maintenance of the muscles and other biological processes, etc.

One of the very few top bb you will ever get the truth from. From my own experience I know he's right about protein. It just takes years of lifting to build muscle after the initial easy fast growth period. Or vita S of course. And hone your routine to best suit your body. The smart ones learn the tricks. The dumb one not so much :(

these videos are priceless, I feel like Im watching Nova.

I couldn't understand; i Weigh 74kgs so according to This how much Protein i must take?? is it like Total calorie intake must be less then "Daily maintanence" for fatloss n Muscle building?

I’m a bit reluctant to take advice from men on roids, but this would explain why men in the past (from antiquity through Middle Ages to industrial era) could develop muscular physiques even though they had usually had less access to protein, especially meat.

I've always had protein shakes , always bought protein powder it was a must , but I didn't know any better until recently , after 3 months of trainer without a single protein powder shake I must say my gym goals has been accomplished and I feel and look the best I've ever did , all my protein comes from food, I take a huge protein number per day 224 grams per day .

What is the name of the intro song? Please continue to share these Mentzer gems! God bless!

I feel like this was a very elementary discussion but it makes total sense

I had a gastric sleeve surgery and lost 86 kg (190 lbs). Working out for around 2 years and mean time I have only eat around 30g protein per day(I am currently 88kg) And still made consisten volume and strenght gains even more than my brother who started working out with me.

I'm from New York, I get a dozen of eggs for 2 dollars, jumbo 250, the pound of red meat is 399, the chicken breast sliced anyway the butcher does it, the same for red meat and removes all fat, lean pork is 250 a pound, a bag of large shrimps is 13 dollars , oatmeal is cheap, diet sugar is cheap, we have dollar stores , I can go on forever, here with the price of two 5 pound canisters of protein I can basically eat for a month like a king, and not get fat, egg whites are great

So what percentage of ones daily calories should be protein then? According to mentzer. Fascinating stuff!

and how much protein should you eat generally to contain your muscle mass per pound

After decades of natural bodybuilding, I've come to the conclusion that you don't actually need large amounts of protein. My attempts to get 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight just made my waistline grow. No improvement in muscle girth or strength. Now I eat no more than two meals a day, my waistline is shrinking, my strength and muscle girth remains the same.

I'm 57 lifting weights for years 6 foot 3 270 pounds. My best weight is 245. I track my protien intake and most days I'm getting 120 grams or less. People are always telling me how I look really good for my age. I'm not a huge eater and i dont each much meat at all i actually force myself to eat meat. I have to do a protien shake almost everyday just to get over 100 grams. I still hold a ton of muscle. Most people think i look 220 pounds. I wear 38 waist pants. I'm 25 pounds over weight do to my height i hide it well. Protien can be extremely toxic to your kidneys. I could never eat 270 grams of protien a day. I've never been a big eater. People look at me and think I'm a huge meat and potato guy but I'm not. I love fruits vegtables and nuts. I do eat way to many carbs. People think of some of the biggest animals on this planet and most muscular. Horse, bull,elephant and the list goes on many are only eating grass. I think for some people genetics plays a huge role. Jmho

at around 1:58 I'm pretty sure I've seen that actual video where Mr. Mentzer explains about nutrition. Does anyone know where I can find it? Thank you.

I weigh about 165lbs as of now. I consume a minimum of 130g of protein a day. I get it from mostly natural sources, but if I'm in a pinch I use protein powder for convenience.

This man was on fricking steroids. That changes protein utilization, decreases protein breakdown, and improves anabolism. I got bigger after years of training from going from .7 g/lb to 1-1.3 grams a lb. currently doing 1-1. 1 g a day. Natty ofc

What’s the instrumental in the beginning please

Thank you very much sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍❤

Imagine consuming 200 g of protein every single day😂😂

My simple explanation of protein intake and muscle growth: - When you do a strength training session you actually cause tiny tears in your muscle fibres ("micro-tears") - Your body wants to repair these tears and then make them stronger to avoid such tears in the future (this is muscle-building in essence) - It needs protein to do so - It would take a certain amount of protein to repair all of these tears - If you had less than that amount of protein, you will still build muscle (even in caloric deficit) as the body would repair as many tears as it can - The more protein you have above this "lesser amount of protein", the more muscle you will build as there is more protein available to repair more tears - At a certain point, if you had more protein than the max, you would have surplus protein that would not aide muscle growth at all, as there would be no more tears to repair - This excess protein would likely be converted into fat So for certain people in certain scenarios, having more protein would lead to more muscle growth. But there is a cut-off point, a maximum amount of protein for your tear-repairing requirements. In short, protein PERMITS the building of muscle, it doesn't provoke the building of muscle itself. How much protein should I have? This depends on many factors: how hard do you train in the gym, how heavy do you lift, what is the quality of the protein that you are eating (its amino acid profile - is it leucine-rich, i.e. the amino acid most involved in muscle building), and other such factors. There is no objective amount as there are many variables, but there are a lot of studies and data out there now that look into various (Bodyweight OR Lean Body Mass x Protein) multipliers and how effective they are. If you really want to find out for yourself, then you need to start tracking all of your own personal data, the main metric being your LBM (bodyweight minus bodyfat). This is the only way you can find out how much muscle you are putting on from month to month. You can't expect somebody to give you the answer as there are way too many variables - many of which I haven't even mentioned here - so experiment with different multipliers and see how it goes. There likely will be other factors that mean you may not want to take the amount of protein required for maximum growth as maybe that amount of protein intake for your kind of diet is just too much for you, as one example.

That back spread was the craziest thing I’ve ever seen 🤯

So how much should i eat?

This is understandable and factual only 16 calories extra are needed to build 10 pounds of a year. Thanks for the video

How much protein is needed for maintenance? That is one question that is never answered... .

So my total body weight is 212 lbs but my lean body mass is 151 lbs. So should my protein intake ideally by 151g?

I’m 192 lbs and have a decent amount of muscle but also have some belly fat hanging over. What’s my recommended protein amount?

I'm just back training after 3 months of junk and alcohol I'm taken only 100 grams of protein with creatine I'm getting good gains

Miscalculation here. 22% of muscle is protein, but not all of muscle is metabolically active, nor yields calories. The amount is still not massive, but accounts for more than half the calorie content of muscle.

Then how much do you need for maintenance??

I was hopeing to hear a recommended amount for building muscle per lean body weight.

Mentzer in my humble opinion the best physic of all bodybuilders. Taken well to soon. R.I.P.

He was ahead of his time. It's funny, the fitness industry and the supplement industry still believe that protein myth. It's ridiculous.

What's the answer?

Shame there was no video footage of him speaking about this as he explains it

What would it be like if Master Mentzer was alive now?

If your carbs are too low, your body will turn protein into glucose (gluconeogenesis).. Which means that your body will be slower because this is a slower process, and less efficient because it’s extremely inefficient as a carb source.

I've always wanted to know what the long term effects of ingesting massive amounts of highly processed protein are on the body.

Love the protein commercial right in the middle of the talk.....classic SNL right there.

Supplement companies do not like this guy

I have been trying to tell so many people its all about calories at the end of the day. You can lose weight eating what ever you want the key is not to eat to much of it. Keep the thought process simple people !

How do I figure out my daily maintenance of protein I need?

There are 2 ways to absorb enough protein. I say 'absord' instead of 'consume' because consuming 200grs of protein doesnt guarante that you will absorb all of that amount. Hence, one way to hit your macro is to having as much consumed protein to be bio available as possible. The other way is consuming a lot more protein than how much you need with the hope that even if you dont use all it you wont risk the chance of your body not getting enough protein. Everyone's body works diffirently so the first way is kind of hard to do since you probably has to do many test to determine the exact amount of protein you need to use under a specific circumstance. Thats why majority of people bulk and cut instead of doing "main gaining".

I was 18, didnt know a thing about the gym. I used to eat one scoop of protein watered down. I wouldn't eat after the gym. I would eat a peice of chicken at work, and a cup of yogurt. I was actually in super good shape. I trained like an animal. I think the difference now is, i overeat, and my body is always tired from digesting the heavy amounts of food

I think I need help with this a little bit. So how many grams of protein should I consume per day according to Mentzer‘s philosophy? Cause it doesn’t look like he is endorsing the 1gm per lbs of body weight rule

But do our bodies utilize these nutrients exactly as the theory suggests?

I weigh 180 lbs and anything over 100g of protein a day is enough. I used to consume 180grams and it made no noticeable difference in strength or size.

I really enjoyed this, just finding this channel...However, I am consuming about 175-200 grams of protein daily, trying to do a recomp; and it's working--fat decreasing, muscle mass increasing...I'm not saying this guy's wrong, but I just know what's actually working for me at this time.