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A properly run club develops and integrates youth, it’s that simple. Literally EVERY other club in Europe does this. Using youth players from time to time won’t destroy your season. In fact, you might find the next ESR or Saka. How will you know if they don’t play? Doesn’t mean they’ll be world beaters, of course. Specifically, Sousa and Walters have been ready for integration for 18 months, and they play positions where we’ve needed cover. It’s a madness to ignore this resource! Consider… We spent 35 million on Vieira. What has he done? What would have changed over the last 18 months if we had simply given all those minutes to Patino instead? …Nothing. Except we’d be 35 million richer, and Patino would have gained valuable experience. Use him, or sell him for profit. Whatever is best. Just one example.

I think Arteta has been so focused on getting the commitment and application level up from where it was when he started and is obsessed with keeping it at that level and not letting it drop, off the pitch on the training ground just as much as on the pitch, where everyone has to absolutely be at the top level of commitment to get any game time, that this has got in the way of some of the younger players getting more minutes. Even in the dead rubber games Arteta has picked the best players and IMO is sending a message to everyone at the club that you have to be absolutely relentless in your commitment and be ready to play 2 games every week with full commitment even if the game means nothing, and Arteta himself is relentless in drumming this kind of mentality into the players. Personally I wouldnt go as far with it, but I can see why he might be doing it. For any young player at the moment its just made it harder to get a chance, but tbh it seems like at the moment there is a lack of top level talent old enough to make a real impact on the first team anyway. Hopefully we get a few more good ones coming through soon as the likes of Nwaneri get chances once the time is right for them

He is challenging with the second youngest team in the league. How much younger do you want him to go? There are no dead rubber games, when you’re chasing teams like Liverpool and City. Momentum is key! We lost control in the final mins against Nottingham just by introducing our standard subs. It’s much easier for Liv and City to hand out debuts at the stage they are in and if Arteta is able to get Arsenal to that level (wining a few major trophies) it will also become easier for us to do thesame when there is less pressure. Arsenal’s idiotic fan base is constantly one loss away from Arteta out.

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Thanks Alex, very informative and interesting as usual. My opinion, we had the youngest team in the league, Arteta had a massive rebuild to clear out the old, big wage, low return players. He has done a magnificent job, now it has to be a balanced growth to keep the team moving forward. We need that killer goal scorer, not going to come from the academy, but think that Nwaneri will be a first team player, but it seems that there are potential in the under 18’s, but it seems we are lacking in the under 21’s and these are the ones that should be pushing into the team.

Here’s a stat for all these YTers going on about youth. Arteta sees these players everyday, some of these guys have never kicked ball and think they can spot talent. Number of league starts before Arteta: Smith Rowe - 1 Martinelli - 3 Saka - 5 Nketiah - 0 Number of league starts after Arteta: Smith Rowe - 41 Martinelli - 85 Saka - 108 Nketiah - 38 "Arteta never gives youth a chance"

I think it's his problem with player rotation that leads to that academy player problem

Arteta can't even trust players like Nelson who were developed already by previous managers. Do you think he will bring through any academy graduates? If he does then i have a bridge to sell you 😂

OMG I was having this exact conversation with my friend the other day. Whatever your opinion of the Wenger era, I use love seeing the new crop of players getting opportunities. How are they supposed to prove themselves if not given a chance!

So happy you did a video on this and it is some very relevant right now especially after the moves of Sousa and Azeez. Like you said the people who disregard it make me mad they say stuff like the coaching staff knows best or that the academy isn’t good enough to disregard the points made by people to play more youth players. Like you said it makes players that join us second guess and even worse in my opinion is the Young promising players we used to buy who will develop into big talents later will be more likely to go elsewhere now. Like look at Spurs they have arguably signed some of the best youth prospects in Europe and are already seeing results it feels like we are looking more to the short to medium term success (I know we have a relatively young squad).

Then again Arteta fails to trust players from the senior team how do you expect him to trust younger lads and give them their debuts

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Spot on!

think arteta's biggest weakness is his in game managment. so many times you will see the team needs subs or a player needs to come off/on to inject something different, and he will wait too late into the game to make the sub so they have 0 chance to get into the flow of the game and make an impact. arteta hardly ever rotates. if you run your same XI into the ground you cant be surprised when their backup is thrown into the game while having a total of probably 45 mins across a season and expect them to instantly plug in and perform. he kills a players familiarity/comfortability to play in the system because they get no chances, which adds strain and injury to starters, and results in killing the transfer values of players on the bench.

We just sold a hot prospect lino sousa to Aston villa ...this is very stupid deal . Mikel is a money coach not a young talent coach. He needs millions to build a team . And buying lousy players like viera , nuno, lukonga etc

It’s the same as the people who cry when the academy lose, they don’t seem to realise that 90% of the players in the academy won’t get an appearance for Arsenal and from that 10% that do only a couple will make it full time and above all they need to deserve it not just be a charity selection, but I must say Cedric getting game time over Walters was outrageous. Dont forget they are incredibly young and Arteta sees them day in day out and I trust him to know when and if they’re ready to play for us

Seen this convo online and I think whilst we would all love to have an academy graduate feature in the senior team, time and circumstances haven't helped. When Mikel came in, we were a mess and it just wasn't the time to try and blood in youngsters. People forget that the whole club was in a serious mess with no cohesion from top to bottom. That needed to get fixed first and also Mikel's fist buys will tell you his perception of where we were and what needed to get done by way of quick fixes, the Willian, Cedric buys and soo on. The ship needed steadying first, then stopped AND THEN redirected! In that regard I write off the two first seasons. Then last season, we found ourselves in an unexpected title race and we badly fumbled cup competitions, hardly the time and circumstances to try and think about bringing in youngsters. Come this season, yes he missed a few golden opportunities to bring in your Skellys, Nwaneri and them but I feel that because we didn't start of the season the way we had hoped an we were now trying this new style of play, the first teamers themselves need a lot of minutes to try and get the new system "baked into their veins" and become second nature. Again to the detriment of opportunity to bring in youngsters. This is not to defend Arteta, but just trying to imagine or see things from the coaching teams eyes. It is never as simple as us fans seem to think or want to think it is. Some of Klopps introductions this season were themselves forced on him and he has had the good fortune that his team's trajectory has helped, something we have not been lucky with . Our path we have walked so far has had way too many ups and down and some of these fans slating Mikel on this will themselves slaughter the youngsters if they got played and caused us a defeat. Liverpool's momentum has been a blessing for the youngsters. ETH was forced into Mainoo by club politics and injuries and luckily the youngster has been a huge revelation. Mikel definitely could have done better, especially in Champions league but remember, these guys have to manage the youngsters expectations vs the fans own expectations vs the teams needs and taking care to give the youngsters the best possible platform to step up and craft a career. Football is not a sink and swim situation for budding talents unfortunately.. some will swim, but unfortunately they are an exception rather than a norm. Not easy.

I agree, Arteta doesn't give the academy enough chances, the latest example being the last match vs PSV which we didn't need to win. But I also look at Pep & Klopp, and they have established teams that have won most trophies in their current respective eras.

Intelligent analysis on nuance and value of importance as a football team I believe that this team has a lot of potential and very high ceilings and it’s a very tricky situation as we also have players we’ve recently bought, that haven’t had enough minutes also young and hungry like the jurien timbers m, viera, even nkethia, overshadowing guys with new contracts might cause an awkward situation for arteta? I don’t know but for a very young team, feeding fresh talent can help to build confidence and keep 1st team players on their toes..so is it a situation where arteta still isn’t being ruthless enough to get that energy I dunno 🤷🏾‍♂️ it’s tricky time..

A couple days late to this video, but just want to add my 2 cents. If we want to label this as Arteta's "weakness", then we have to talk about specifics and facts, rather than going on about hypotheticals. Which means the first question we would have to ask, is has Arteta snubbed youth players who could have contributed to the first team. In my opinion, the only player that I can think of is Walters during the period when White was injured and Tomi had just come back from injury and wasn't fully fit (around the Burnley game, iirc). Patino has been given a loan (which has showed us that Arteta was most likely correct that Patino wasn't ready to be a part of the current Arsenal setup just yet), while Brooke Norton-Cuffy has probably been the best youth prospect out on loan, but playing as a RM rather than a RB or RW (these 2 being the next best prospects of players in and around that age group). So is this really a "weakness" (suggesting that it is something Arteta is bad at), or just not something that Arteta has fully been exposed to given the circumstances? If we were to look at the players at the club that fans are saying Arteta should be playing, it mainly consists of ACD, Walters, Sousa, Nwaneri and Lewis-Skelly. In your video, you state that "...then one of two things is true. Either the academy hasn't sufficiently prepared these young men for the position they're going to be put in, ..., or the player isn't right for the competitive level we need them at..." before using yourself as an example of why the latter is true, if you haven't gone through the academies from a young age. In my opinion, that rules out Nwaneri and Lewis-Skelly, cause are you really being fair to the academy if you are expecting them to have 16 and 17 year olds ready for the competitive level we need them at? Or giving them enough experience at youth level to prepare those two players for the physicality and mental toughness needed for the Premier League? To give you context, of the 28 youth players Pep has given debuts of, they have an average age of 19 (18.96 to be exact), which is about 2 years older than Lewis-Skelly (the older of the 2). 2 years is a lot of development for a player (if anyone can be bothered to find the average age for Liverpool or West Ham, go ahead, be my guest). Then let's go onto ACD, Walters and Sousa. It's now come out that there were contractual difficulties with Sousa (so maybe Arteta not wasting minutes on a player not committing to the club, or maybe Sousa being difficulty during contract talks because of the lack of first team appearances under Arteta, who knows). Furthermore, I'm not going to claim to watch a lot of academy football, but it seems to me like Sousa is more of a Tierney-type LB rather than a Zinchenko-type LB, and do you really expect a changing of systems just to accomodate the debut of a academy kid? Personally, not for me, but people might differ opinions on this. Then ACD and Walters, and in my opinion, the 2 players that probably have caused a lot of the current conversations around Arteta's use of youth players (considering injuries and fitness to Tomi and White, while the clear over-reliance on Saka that Arsenal fans complain about). To me, you can look at it two different ways. One way would be that Arteta is bad at developing the youth for not giving them debuts (such as in games vs PSV or Lens). Or you can look at it this way: A [major] portion of the fans criticising Arteta's lack of youth player debuts, are also criticising Arteta for "bottling" last season or criticising Arteta for less points this season compared to last season, or complaining about the bad results and lack of trophies. So what do you actually want? Minutes into players such as Jorginho in dead rubber games to help build fitness and match sharpness so that when you need him to start alongside Rice vs Liverpool, he doesn't need to work himself back up to match fitness and sharpness during the game? Or a token debut in dead rubber games to youth players, ignoring the importance of making sure squad players are fit and ready to step up when needed? Both are valid opinions.

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I agree with a point where they are profit maker, giving them a debut and a few games here and there is good cuz if they are indeed good, then we have a good squad player for free, if not we can sell for profit like balogun. Few of the loan spells have been really good for saliba, balogun, lokonga ect but more academy players need to go to championship

seeing how arteta dealt with the saliba situation, loaning him out even though we were short on CB, knowing he needs consistent minutes to develop his undoubted talent, i'd trust him, but yeah. im frustrated too. we have a lot of academy players who could use some minutes, at least as squad players. then again, the vast vast majority of games we've had so far in the last 2 seasons has been important games that he has to focus on catching up to liverpool and city. cant afford to take a chance on young players when every game seems to be clutch games: last season - to put as much gap as possible for city's inevitable title charge, and this season - we're within touching distance of the leaders the benefit of us Football Manager players have is that we can see the percentage of fatigue each player has at all times. arteta doesnt

Also one part of this that really needs to be criticised and changed immediately is the loan system. I follow almost every loanee we send and for the most part most of the loans we send them out to are not beneficial to them. So many either don’t play, are in leagues way below their ability and/or are just bad fits. I think the GK loans are the best example of this Okonwko played as the starter for a european comp playing team and even won a trophy and this season he is in league two having 7.0 or MOTM performances every other week and Heins was on loan at reading in the championship where he played decently well to being a ghost and not playing for almost a year despite being his country’s starter. Also we wait too long to send players out on loan Jeorge Bird every window says that there are at least 5-7 players in our youth system that desperately need loans because they play youth football but don’t have the opportunity or the trust to step up into our first team to go to the next level so they stagnate and fade.

Not gonna lie seeing Kobe mainoo score made me wonder if we also had someone like that in our academy

TOTALLY AGREE. I hear the argument about raising and keeping the bar of the first team high. I support that. It needed to happen. However, how does playing Cedric who's leaving soon over a youth prospect without experience/talent do that? If your super high level team cannot accommodate even one youth prospect for 10mins in a dead rubber game then maybe the quality isn't that high after 4 years and questions need to be asked of you, the manager. The argument that there aren't old enough, talented enough prospects is laughable. We've seen players morph in different environments. The same way some teenagers could get their careers crushed is also how others could emerge and be viable options in the short term while building experience. In fact, to expect an 18 year old to make an instant impact is a tough expectation at PL level. There aren't many like that. And to the TDK's point, giving them game time builds their value. I have no clue what Reull Walters, Sousa, Patino can do with consistent minutes. Loan deals aren't always the best way to develop talent. Teams generally have different priorities that affect game time, positioning and a myriad of other factors that may make or break a spell. I don't remember Emile being particularly fantastic at any of his spells. A nurturing environment where you have coaches specifically tuned to improving you based on the roles you could have in the team is a an understated boost. That CL game wrecked me because it's the best chance a teenager has to experience that big stage at the top of football and not a single one of them saw a single second. Arteta has gone all the way to the risk averse end of the scale. I get that. He's led the reshaping of a club that was in a terrible place. His unwillingness to take risks shows in how much time he gives the likes of Reiss, Emile, Kiwior etc. I recall Martinelli being in a similar situation till there were no more options left available to Arteta and he took his chance. We can't spend £100 million every summer. This has to be seen as a way to improve the team too. Youth development should be seen as integral for any successful team and we're failing in that regard.

Very good show. Whilst I believe the board/ managing team have a clear plan and too much ownership is on Arteta. Players who don’t go on loan should be round the first team ( if good enough) and plans and agreed minutes should be discussed when the season starts. Not playing a player is as harmful as playing for a few minutes. Liverpool and Manchester United historically have always gave youth a good opportunity. As the numbers state , Arteta and Pep are very similar. For me the issue is, Arteta wants to focus only on football and the business side is nothing to do with him. This is why wenger was very good at increasing the value of players! Arteta and Mertesacker need a better understanding because clearly, they are not on the same page or Mertesacker.

I think the reason behind the lack of youth integration is that Arteta is a perfectionist. He's very reluctant to play anyone who he doesn't truly believe can perform a specific role in this system. Pep has more of a pragmatic streak and Klopp even more so.

This will undoubtedly be another stage in the process.

Mika biereth is up next

TDK can you find out if there is some kind of clause in Martinelli contract? Me and my friends notice that regardless of performance nelli is substituted before 75mins.

Wouldn't say is 100% on Mikel, please check the amount of pro minutes other clubs' youngsters have before making the official debut for their team in the Prem. First example that comes to my mind is Connor Bradley; the lad has played FIFTY THREE competitive games for Bolton before being fully integrated to Liverpool's first team. I'm trying to say we should be trying to loan out a greater proportion of our youth talent so as to have them develop physically instead of playing against youngsters week in week out. Having said this, you still can argue Mikel has given Colney youngsters a decent amount of minutes - look at our last seasons and the time the likes of Smith Rowe, Nketiah and Saka got...If you take those as an example, look at how Eddie and Emile had to go out on loan to be tested against pro footballers before actually being able to perform consistently for our first team. Bukayo is definitely an anomally (physically and technically) - we cannot just pretend the integration of other youngsters to be anything like his.

The argument largely ignores deepeer contextual anlaysis. Arteta inherited a squad so big that even Emery hadn't been able to register all the players. We had too big a squad for the two following years because we couldn't bloody sell anyone. Also we are team that a) has, bar that far season, been on a steady ascent - with the youngest or 2nd youngest 1st 11 for the last 24 months & b) has been buggered with only 2 easy domestic cup draws in 3-4 years. Much easier to hand out debuts vs Colchester at home that away at West Ham or vs Liverpool etc. c) our youth set up, particularly for the age group that is now 19-22 has been, bar the loanees, the worst few crops in recent years. The lot that are currently 17-18 and the ones that are 15-17 are on different level to those prior groups - but are still behind City & Liverpool whose youth set ups have been well ahead of ours for several years now. Certainly the kids City & Liverpool have had who are now 18-22 are miles ahead of our equivalents - as evidenced by everyone who has left, bar Balogun and now Sousa, dropping down levels - often by several divisions. We all want to see youth players get games rather than leave - but these guys haven't even been Matthew Rose let alone Serge Gnabry People keep saying 'plenty of opportunities' and then everyone cites the same 3-4 games. And everytime I challenge people to say who should have been getting games, they either talk about about Walters in those same 3 games or the 16 year olds (making direct comparisons with the older kids being given debuts at City & Liverpool), or players who are going to be lucky to have pro-careers at all, as evidenced by their next desitnations. As for Garnacho, Bobb, Elliot etc - All were acquired expensively from other clubs. Either significant fees or major sell on clauses or both. We only have one of those in our set up - Marquinhos (and he was cheaper), and everyone is *****ing about that punt. Where one can and to my mind should criticises the club is the seeming abandonment of external recruitment to our academy - some of this is down to Brexit (Liverpool, Utd, City & Chelsea went hoovering up talent before the Brexit law changes kicked in - hence Garnacho, Bobb and others) - which means unlike our competitors we are totally reliant on the hale end pathway. Which is just not realistic for the level we are at. Everyone praised wenger for using youth, but most of the young players who made any impact were externally sourced - otherwise its just Cole & Wilshere (and briefly Stephen Hughes). So whether its down to Arteta, Edu or the club heirarchy higher up, we are and have been operating with a pool of youngsters that is weaker than our competitors. Even using Klopp and Pep, a LOT of those young players were externally recruited at 16 or older. We've had Sousa, Ideho, the M'hand brothers and Rekik join us in that age range (all for next to nothing) and that's about it. The club is simply not putting itself in a position to compete in terms of bringing young kids in, and thus having the quality pool to make blooding them worthwhile. What will be interesting is looking at the next 2-3 years because 1) We have a better crop of internally produced youth in terms of breadth of quality than since the Saka/Balogun or Eddie/Nelson/ESR groups 2) The impact of Brexit rules will have kicked in, so the stockpiling City, Liverpool, Utd & Chelsea do will be limited to domestically produced players only (unless paying much bigger fees for 18 year olds) 3) Arsenal should be stabilised as competitive, as Liverpool and City have been, and not be slightly chaotically trying to drag ourselves up to the level 4) With any luck our core squad should have slightly less numbers but slightly more quality - no more giving minutes to Cedric or Elneny because they are next off the rank. 5) Our first 15-18 will all be in or around prime age - more like our competitors - and thus a much better environment to bring kids into for both the kids and the first team. I will say that Arteta should have given Walters (and maybe Sousa unless they knew he was off) minutes in the Lens game and maybe at PSV, and if we don't see a change in similar circumstances next year, I too will join the discontented. Like if we get a league 1 team at home in the cups, or are winning in a ECL dead rubber I EXPECT to see some u21 players get good minutes, and injuries permitting, there will be little justification for not doing so at that point.

Our best player is from the academy. Youth talent comes in cycles. Are we handing out debuts or looking to get better talents into the academy. That to me is the issue not the amount of debuts. Any coach and I mean any coach will play the best players. I promise you that. Always room to be better but I Mikel has a dressing room heirachy and that is culturally important

This is a sub topic of a greater weakness of Mikel. He is not good in my opinion at managing minutes around the squad and rotating ( to give opportunity, to rest, to avoid injury, to keep players up in form ) in general, let alone giving chances to accademy players.

It's about whose earned it. Every time one of these players make their debut it's always reported how hard they worked in training. I think what Arteta wants to install in young players minds is that to be a player for Arsenal you have to work for it, you aren't given it. Manchester City generally are forced to give handouts because their squad is so thin BUT their accademy is so good and has so many players I'm sure every player that is in the team have worked hard for it. Just look at Bradley and Quansah for example at Liverpool, you see the hard work and passion. It's incredible. Balogun may have been forced but most of Manchester City's graduates have been forced into the first team due to a lack of squad depth so it's not uncommon.

good video

This might be unrealistic but in FM I always send Youth on loan for 0% wages. Loanee club get free player on 0% wages and youth get play time. A win-win situation. In reality clubs rather let their youth in U23 rather than send youth out on a free loan.

I think the issue is happening before Mikel we just are not using the loan market properly with our youngsters. Lot of attention has been brought to Bradley over the past few weeks but he had 41 senior appearances on loan before being called up. I think ACD is being hard done by Mikel and that is worth criticism but to lay all the blame at Mikels feet I believe is pointless especially as we need Nwaneri and MLS at 16 consistently making benches I feel they are destined to be a big part of this project

I will be really devastated if Martin Chido Obi leaves the club due to a lack of first team assurance and becomes the next Erling Haaland. It will really pain me. The same goes for Ethan Nwaneri.

Deadly swords are forged in a crucible, not in an all you can eat bakery. In competition you need sharp performers at peak performance levels and mentality, as harsh as it sounds, it’s not even worth investing time in players who don’t have that elite mentality and work rate. If someone gets a chance in this team, it’s purely because they don’t stop or slow down. The young players who want to fight for their spot or a chance at a spot because they see a gap in the squad, will get a chance. I remember a point at which everyone thought Mikel hated Martinelli but turns out he was preparing him until he was ready, because our crazy fanbase shreds players and their confidence before giving them any chance(i.e Kai, Raya etc). They can’t possibly be shocked that Mikel is weary of throwing youngsters out into that fire before they’re ready, the bigger question is why isn’t the academy and/or Jack preparing them better for the next step? Do I think Mikel can be a little more flexible with it? Sure, he’s headstrong and a bit “insane” as many many Arsenal players have described him. He seems to have a bordering on psychopathic level of commitment to his motto, “these are the foggin estandards guys”. Anyone who doesn’t meet those standards doesn’t play, it’s simple. I just feel the step before senior squad isn’t doing enough, that includes the loaning department and such. Hope that changes with the recent alterations made in that department.

Arguably, Arteta has handed 1 debut but not really been keen to give the academy a chance. Unai gave us, Guendouzi, Smith Rowe, Martinelli and will give Lino Sossa a chance. Ljumberg introduced us to SAKA.

Note this: If you let kids play you betray Nelson, Kiwior, Jorginho, Eddie, Emil, Vieira, Trossard etc. the people who not only work their asses off, but also work their brains off to get the tactics. You break everything you've built before: that someone has a short path to precious minutes while others pushed our starters to be better versions of them selves, and some like Leo, ESR, Tomi are not even worse than starters! Mikel is a guy who sends a message every second. So he sends the message to our seniors that we are in the middle of the war here, and you suggest to meanwhile run some little kindergarten behind the curtain? If you have 10 minutes in a decided game, you give it to Nelson, to Vieira or it's inadequate

They're many the finishing the coordination the defense

If Arteta starts to add adaptability, flexibility, and dynamism to his footballing philosophy and begins to play Saka and Martinelli in other positions other than just their inverted wing positions during games on a regular basis, then I will say we have a chance of winning the league and major titles sooner than later. But if he continues to be one-dimensional and always plays them only in the inverted wing position perpetually, then it is only the top-4 I see Arsenal capable of making. Go and write it down. Do you know why? Because teams will continue to gang up on Saka and Martinelli if they continue to play only the inverted wing positions. This means that winning consistently or going on a long winning streak will be difficult. This also goes for Gabriel Jesus and Odegaard. Arteta should be adaptable, flexible, and dynamic enough to switch their positions every now and then to make Arsenal very unpredictable during games.

Arsenal definitely needs a smarter, experienced, PL calibre manager. The sooner Apprentice Arteta goes, the better it will be for the Club. He has no clue how to manage his resources and funds, the best example is he wasted £65M, plus £280K per week for wages on a deadwood Kai Havertz, who is not worth more than 10% of these monies.

When people talk about the talent gap I think everyone thinks of the starting 11 but actually is the bench where I wouldn't mind seeing the youngsters given a go. Not to say I don't rate them personally but clearly the manager doesn't feel like he can rely on Eddie, Kiwior, Nelson, Elneny or Cedric in any game of significance or even off the bench in some games so why not change it up every now and then?

First thing I thought of when ESR started was watching TDK is on Artetas weekly to do list. Pls don’t ever sell yourself to AFTV. Keep doing your ting

I think this is part of a bigger issue which is arteta's stubborness with his starting lineup. He dropped ramsdale who was in form and the best keeper in the league, and drop ESR and stubbornly refuse to use him (yes im aware he's been playing very recently), but he'll keep playing saka, martinelli and gabi jesus when they are desperately out of form. For keyboard warriors, i agree theyve been in great form since the break in dubai, but it was clear they were terrible before then

Tbf, emery gave saka and smith Rowe their debuts. Wenger gave enketiah his debut. Which seems weird judging by how young he is. Martinelli wasn’t a hale end boy but still emery. Arteta was handed assets. Hasn’t brought through more. At the same time, arteta didn’t have the time to bring through people like Wenger or even emery did. He was an unproved maverick who needed results or he was in the bin. Whilst I don’t want us to end up like Chelsea where potential world class players leave out of lack of opportunities, don’t underestimate how fickle and sour arsenal fans can be.

I don’t think Arsenal fans always need something to complain about but I find it strange that it’s an issue right now

When we win something the PL or the UCL, then we can start integrating academy players. Liverpool and City have won it therefore they can integrattheir best young academy players. Untill then, winning with the best team we can produce only matters. If they are good enough for other clubs and they want them, selk them. This is just a complainer's complaint.

I really don't think any of our academy graduates warrants anything, we only over hype or academy players because we see other teams academy players and saka's achievements. Taje a look at our academy graduates in the last 5 years, apart from saka and maybe ESR, we've only hype up our young players only for them to end up in third tier leagues, azeez, etc

Can't wait for Mikel to start a team full of academy players against Liverpool after watching this video

hang on.......all these players other clubs have handed out youth players a debut........where are these kids now? how many od Pepe of Klopps deputed players are regulars...still playing at the club? or did they sell them?

Academy player debut are a luxury you can only reasonably afford after you've cemented yourself as a winner.

There is already a problem with the likes of Nelson, Trossard, Smith Rowe, Ramsdale, struggling for game time. Where is the space to integrate? Mikel has already given chances to a few players from the youth system. Obviously he cant give the chance to everyone at once. If there are players who are upset about not getting more chances than the others its good to let them if they continue to sulk and affect the overall atmosphere with talks like 'this is not working'.

Mikel's BIGGEST Weakness??? Where do you start??

Mikels biggest problem is not using his bench, he doesn’t like to substitute

No, Artetas by faaaar BIGGEST weakness is his inability to properly rotate the squad.

This is one of the video I disagree with. No new youth entering into senior squad is not a problem because we have the youngest squad in the league. The thing we lack right now is the experience to win, the experience needed is crucial and that's why Zinchenko and Jesus have immense impact to the whole squad. We can even go on without having new academy players for another a year or 2. After that it will be introduce naturally. Arteta weakness is just about rotating squad players. Your argument about whichever match to play youths should be applied to bench players instead.

first win the big trophies,then think of academy kids

Our youth lost 7-1 to Liverpool youth the other day and people want them in our team, let’s drop rice and Saliba.. nuts

spurs fan but love your videos, one of very few intelligent arsenal fans 😂😂😂

Arteta's only weakness is STUBBORNNESS

Just out of interest - what do you think Mikel's biggest weakness is?

I'm very much arteta in, but at the end of the season I'm willing to let him go. He has regressed arsenal this season.

So which dead rubber games do we have upcoming or did we actually had. Can remember a cl game that we could have played youth, but then when he plays youth and the opponents score you will be moaning we couldn’t hold the clean sheet and will probably stamp the player down. Give him some credit instead of making these polarization videos.

Stop masquerading your argument as a healthy middle ground when you're sitting firmly on the opposite side of the opinion you oppose

Biggest non issue ever. I'm sorry, there's no "there" there. 🙄

Northside calls you "Emirates Sam Smith" your thoughts?

Arteta biggest weakness is Talent ID. And dealing with strong personalities aka Alpha males. playing youth players falls under talent ID.

I think it’s part of his 5 set plan. Once we have won a major trophy I imagine he will start giving youth players their chance

oh no! It's not as if Mikel is in his first managerial job and being scrutinized left right and center for everything he does!

Arteta out

I think the point that you and others get bogged down with, is debuts, if you look at actual development, Mikel has done a lot for most of our team given that they themselves are young. The teams you point out have experienced heads who can bed in the youth. Mikel who is already working with and developing youth, doesn’t have similar luxury to bud in a 16 year old

The inability to coach proper pressing system is his biggest shortcoming. Opposing teams get a lot of joy when Arsenal don't have the ball. It doesn't really matter who plays if your defending is uncoordinated.

arteta biggest weakness is not youth its his lack of belief in tap in center forwards. if not we would have bought one by now

Bigman, if you're THAT insightful, please become a prem manager and show us then. I love your channel but it gets to a point where its too speculative

I really think mikel is not good enough as a coach

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That's one big area where Arteta fails terribly. Very rigid and not flexible to blood young talent. He was about to frustrate Saliba and preferred Ben White more and even gave Ben White Saliba's no. 4 shirt. This Arteta is shameless. As an Arsenal fan, I haven't forgiven Arteta for humiliating Saliba yet he had all the talent even a blind man could see.

Our youth team stinks don’t fool yourselves

You are my guy TDK and I am a big a fan. On this issue though, I dont think it's a fair comparism. Look at it this way, Arteta is still a young manager, at first club instilling highly intelligent playing style to bunch of young players. Since his time at Arsenal, he is still trying his possible best to make sure that the current young players master the craft of slow possession football style with killer instinct. So, it's a difficult situation to be giving academic players chances like others that has nothing to proof or lose. COYG🫶👌👍