How do motorcycles corner? Like what are the physics behind how much lean angle is needed for a given corner? Why can lighter bikes corner faster? How does counter steering work?
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@hobes95512 жыл бұрын
Every vlogger on youtube: "This is how this works!" Mike on Bikes: "Well hmmm... This is how it actually works and here is the real physics in numbers. It's really not that complicated you know..." Me: "Holy F**k. Everything finally makes sense now"
@SquarewhiteTV2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a comeback! Your content is my favorite on KZfaq. I hope everything has been going well for you
@asphaltart2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your videos are so good! Thank you for all the work that went into this one. Cheers from Germany!
@bmwm3man2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just wish you published more content. I love everything you put out there. Keep being great.
@rikileechunhoo2 жыл бұрын
The one thing I learned at last is "no cornering beyond 45 degree" The rest i leave it to mathematician or inventor who are going to develope self riding robot later. Anyway very insightful and detail explanation Mr Mike. I may need to replay this for 100 times to crack it👍👍👍
@mikeskidmore67542 жыл бұрын
You point out some facts I never thought about .. I tend to know more about how cars Handle .. Interesting the differance/// between cars and motorcycles..
@spex75035 ай бұрын
I've been riding for 25 years and this is the first time I've felt even close to understanding how a motorcycle actually turns. Outstanding.
@mrwhite-qn3ku2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, I'm actually buying a motorcycle and your channel helps me knowing the theory of riding a motorcycle. Please make more videos like this 😁
@Ghost21672 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back after those few months! And also with such an interesting topic. You really can't learn enough about cornering
@Gismo33332 жыл бұрын
This is the best explained cornering of a bike, I have seen. This should be in all MC training to get a license. Instead now we have lots of instructors telling people that counter-steering is track riding only. They know noting about how a bike turns, and they are instructors teaching others to ride. No wander so many people die riding a bike, every year. People are not being told the truth. And are being told the wrong ting. It's obvious to see that most of the crashes with bikes are single crash. Going off the road not making the corner.
@atreyustratula2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are some of the best on YT.. I’m a better rider because of your content
@Nonicknameleftforme3 ай бұрын
I have learned soooooo much from Mike about motorcycle physics, that the thumbs up and subscription are just too little to be honest. I mean I knew quite a bit by myself, but Mike explaining it with nowledge he gained from scientific sources makes you understand everything much better. The biggest danger for motocyclists I see, are YT channels, that try to explain motorcycle physics by using simple elementary school physics and then try to explain things like tire grip or motorcycle cornering. Everytime I am not able to exactly explain something to another rider, or they need to see it or understand it in their head I advise anyone then to the following three channels: Simon Crafar MotoVudu, Sylvain Guintolis channel and Mike on Bikes! I mean, putting him on par with these two means something, doesn't it? Thank you Mike for being such a great source for knowledge and technique!
@benorim2 жыл бұрын
Thought this was supposed to be “easy to understand” 😂. Just tell people “it works. Try it”
@dan19062 жыл бұрын
It is very easy to understand. Give it a chance. Process it a bit at a time. Otherwise, maybe you should take up knitting.
@benorim2 жыл бұрын
@@dan1906 I already knit. I ride motorcycles and I don’t need to understand the physics behind counter steering. It works for me, I know it works and that’s good enough. I’m a software engineer. I don’t go around telling people to understand how code works before posting dumb comments like yours.
@dan19062 жыл бұрын
@@benorim Software engineer, it figures. Oh the irony of you referring to my comment as dumb, in contrast to the subject of your original comment. Maybe next time ignorance is holding you back, try restarting the motorcycle. That should correct any issues.
@mdtmdt47302 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say that
@baneoffsight48712 жыл бұрын
@@dan1906 You're pretty arrogant aren't ya... I know, I know, my comment is totally unnecessary- and therefore so is yours. When someone says something is hard, telling them its easy literally makes no difference in their life... Just shooting ideas out there but maybe helping him or shutting up is a better solution?
@gustavganserpelofswanlake2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike! Explained with swedish precision! Thank you for the analysis, recommenable vid of yours again.
@lovethytuber47702 жыл бұрын
Been a while - happy you are back and enjoying your content as always!
@unwrangler112 жыл бұрын
Great cornering explanation and the formulas to calculate forces are helpful to understand what is actually happening. Thanks!
@andredeketeleastutecomplex2 жыл бұрын
Mike: this is how a motorcycle steers Neo: hold my spoon
@ext_Trex_Arms2 жыл бұрын
well this is easily the earliest i’ll ever be on one of your videos
@9ishesh2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@tearupx2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back man, your content is always top notch!
@jgsimons2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back publishing context. Thanks.
@fb38242 жыл бұрын
One of the better treatments on the subject I have seen. Well done
@HennessyBoss2 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was in a physics lecture.. Great video and has a lot of information.
@CadaverCo2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel Mike! Keep em coming I love videos that go more in depth on how to ride at the limit.
@mazharkhadri54082 жыл бұрын
Seen so many videos trying to understand countersteering, finally i understood after watching it here. Thanks guyz for the excellent presentation 👍. Love from the UAE 🇦🇪. Can't thank you enough finally my riding is so much faster and safer now.
@viurniel2 жыл бұрын
This video provides a better explanation than the vast majority of race track tutorials I have viewed.
@Nazgul192 жыл бұрын
Good video mate, it's been such a long time without a video that i started getting worried. Thank you for the good content (as always). :)
@devonnobles10832 жыл бұрын
This explains everything I have been thinking about recently. Thank you! 😊
@mohba012 жыл бұрын
aero industry and motorcycle have a lot more in common than people know, except no one is trying to fly to the moon in a Husky :)
@Motorard2 жыл бұрын
The yaw, roll and pitch got me. Now I have a different perspective
@XtreeM_FaiL2 жыл бұрын
I only know one common thing. No one knows how bikes and planes work.
@fauxvier85192 жыл бұрын
THE LEGEND IS BACK
@leewaken50592 жыл бұрын
I been doing all this for fifty years...naturally. Very cool to "see" it all explained. Thank you.
@ragazzino25892 жыл бұрын
This video help me alot in my motorcycle riding specially in cornering. Thanks to you man!
@stephenpierce27262 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking how we haven't seen a video from Mike in a while. Thanks for the upload!
@muriuwangai3617 Жыл бұрын
This exactly what I have been missing. Plus well explained. I have subscribed
@ajangalbo2 жыл бұрын
As soon as i saw the thumbnail, i immediately understood the concept of counter-steering
@IsturisMasaya Жыл бұрын
This was the type of explanation I was looking for, thanks!
@ChadOHara982 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. This info helps everyone ride more intuitively, so thank you!
@audisseybardelas29072 жыл бұрын
a doctor, a fireman, a teacher, a stepbrother and now a biker? you have my respect man
@xp4t790 Жыл бұрын
ah, i see... you're man of culture
@gooseshawn Жыл бұрын
Johnny Sins hahaha
@p.chakraborty44532 жыл бұрын
I was dying for newer vids !!! Need more often !
@grongrod2 жыл бұрын
Best turnning explanation on KZfaq, top notch!
@ICE_Whisperer9 ай бұрын
Well, this refreshed my memory and gave me something more to learn...
@proto76882 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, thank you for your time.
@maksimiliankiefergregl2 жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful video Mike. Thanks for posting !
@worldtrailsasia Жыл бұрын
Amazing explained on a very understandable way ! Bravo and thank you
@user-kp7gb4hs8q2 жыл бұрын
Your videos always snag my attention to them, I must watch😎👍
@SQUID_Road_Glide Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal explication! It is so difficult to discuss this subject with my Harley guys. They argue against the physics, as if my Phat-Boy needs to lean and their Glide doesn’t. The imperceptible weave reminds me of my first submarine cruise. The Boatswain kept tell the Captain how far left or right of track the boat was traversing compared to the plotted intended course. No such thing as a straight line! 2020 Phat-Boy
@InvictusMotors2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos especially the physics aspect 👌
@tekjess_2 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video! Very informative!
@disekjoumoer2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, Mike.
@davebell36842 жыл бұрын
Wow, high density information there mate. I'm gonna have to watch this again. I tried to read a book on bicycle physics a few times and realised that I can feel it better than understand it. Maybe understanding will not make for more enjoyment and I'm better off without it for something like this. I'm still enjoying the puzzles though.
@111jkjk2 жыл бұрын
You and your vids have been much missed!
@Para-ni5lx2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tutorials!! And AWESOME collections of motorcycles !! Stay safe
@RiderMarky2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video. Keep up the great work !!
@potatopobobot42312 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and explanations. Have you considered doing a video on physics of whips?
@xaraphyn2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Mike! Thank you so much for sharing!
@sherbettt2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, author. You explain it very accessible.
@leonardotheredacted7447 Жыл бұрын
Wow, lots of great information and a very easily understandable presentation!
@ashwinjith85232 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and well explained.. To my view of riding.. Push the handle bars towards the direction u wanna go to make counter steering simple.. Am I right!!
@sihlengongoma2044 Жыл бұрын
i love your videos cause i always learn so much
@robertooropezagamarra14282 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great explanation and very explanatory graphics! "easy to understand"... once you watch this video many times :D
@Motorard2 жыл бұрын
More videos like these please. I learn a lot from these
@tamboleo2 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate these videos as they go deep dive on the theory behind what we do. However, I didn't find a video where they explain you to have more confidence on the grip of the tires, on the street. How i can go faster without thinking i'm going to have a lowside for exceeding the lateral forces, eventhough i'm not by far at the 45 degrees limit. The theory is there, smooth on the gas, lean more, load the front tire, etc, we all have read the Twist of the Wrist Volume 2 but i can't really improve my leaning technique with only theory. There must be a way on it, without spending money on courses, or trackdays, just by practicing but with something to rely on, that you can feel. It's easy to feel the grip going away on a car, (understeering) but on a bike, the only feel that you have for lack of grip on the front is the impact with the ground and the expensive visit to the shop :( Maybe some leaning and G gauges that BIP when you are at some % of the limit that could grow your skills by setting the warning higher and higher...
@pointlessdegenerates35682 жыл бұрын
get a small dirt bike and rip around a parking lot, its low stakes cheap and the skills transfer to bigger bikes, you’ll be dragging knee in no time
@yavuzkazanc11696 күн бұрын
Great video, great explanation, thank you.
@thepunisher1951 Жыл бұрын
Wowww, your videoes are absolute amazing
@fullnoeleko2 жыл бұрын
Just great and usefull explanation... THANKS !
@daveinwla63602 жыл бұрын
"When we introduce lean into this rotating mass", referring to the steering torque generated by leaning the bike, is how people can ride bicycles and motorcycles "no hands" - by steering with pressure of their knees against the tank or frame, causing the lean, and the front wheel to steer towards the lean.
@DumbledoreMcCracken2 жыл бұрын
You don't understand. You lean right to turn right, but that causes the front wheel to turn left because the frame moves left when you lean right (equal and opposite force), and the wheel turns left because of gyroscopic precession, which leans the BIKE right, and now you are turning the bike right.
@daveinwla63602 жыл бұрын
@@DumbledoreMcCracken - See the KZfaq video on MIT freshman Physics 8.01, lecture 24, on Rolling Motion and Gyroscopes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jraFqKmQyaunhn0.html For the front wheel rolling forward, a torque exerted by the rider's knees to the right would cause the front wheel to turn to the right. Using the professor's mnemonic, the wheel's momentum, which points left (using the Right-Hand Rule) follows the torque caused by the rider's knees - which points forward (again, using the Right-Hand Rule) - and the wheels' momentum vector "follows the torque" vector, turning the wheel to the right. Note that I didn't say that the rider had to lean to the right - just push his knees to the right, perhaps bending his body at the hip to do so. Using that mechanism, the rider can control the direction of the front wheel as if he were using his hands.
@DumbledoreMcCracken2 жыл бұрын
@@daveinwla6360 already have
@daveinwla63602 жыл бұрын
@@DumbledoreMcCracken - Then, Dumbledore, you see that while standing (as motorcycle racers do upon victory) and pushing one's knees right, the front wheel turns right. Or while sitting, a rider can press on the right peg and move his knees and hips right, and the torque towards the right causes the front wheel to turn right. Don't try this at low speed, though, as the gyroscopic force needs some rotational speed of the wheel to become apparent.
@DumbledoreMcCracken2 жыл бұрын
@@daveinwla6360 make a video. All I have to go on is about 10k miles of riding a bike, and about 1500 miles riding a motorcycle.
@nightdipper5178 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks for the work.
@GunCollector0072 жыл бұрын
As a new rider I really appreciate this video. Thanks
@daveinwla63602 жыл бұрын
This is the 1st KZfaq video to mention yaw due to change of lean angle (roll rate). Bravo! But unless one has a degree in physics, no one believes that one. :-(
@paullarouche46482 жыл бұрын
Superb explanation!
@trashedlife12 жыл бұрын
Finallyyy you are back
@andrechristian36572 жыл бұрын
easy to understand... nice explaination
@tehpwn3dlife2 жыл бұрын
Riktigt professionellt. Bra video tack!
@uycuongtran63822 жыл бұрын
One more helpful video. Thank you so much ☺️
@archiewilson49432 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@johnschlesinger20098 ай бұрын
Brilliant video: thanks!
@zidemoto94852 жыл бұрын
Very informative video..👍👍👍
@Temetnosce77 Жыл бұрын
Exceptional explanation
@RobDagger2 жыл бұрын
that was a great explaination, thank you very much
@ashrayhebbar58852 жыл бұрын
This video is a gem! ❤️
@JRodSMX2 жыл бұрын
Mike on bikes+supermotos= instant like.
@mariosnikolaou52122 жыл бұрын
Really nice bro. Congrats!!
@daveyt48022 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! As usual.
@shahriyarkalhor2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations 👏 this is the best and most complete explaination on motorcycle physics !! But u are going too fast and summerizing topics too quickly for viewers, if this video is for just a show off and recall for pros its greats. Thumbs up👍💯👏 But if its for newbis like me who love Motor cycles and have a love for physics it needs more explaining 🙂 Good work 👍 But it has a potential for becoming perfect.. plz explain more, slow down a bit, use easy words and examples.. cuz this video could be a life saver!! And mind opener for many people...
@theonlyname4utoob2 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. Succinct with great pacing. Keep it highbrow.
@victorv0962 жыл бұрын
Nice video and what a garage! haha Supermotos, dirt bike, adv bike, sportbikes, pitbike.. wonder how you find time to ride each and every one of them! Greetings from Brasil!
@prathapchandra2 жыл бұрын
great demonstrations
@coax. Жыл бұрын
i can see you have gone to considerable lengths to make this video. Thanks made it easy to understand
@stephanesimard16922 жыл бұрын
Nice stable young man ! The cruiser will join the studs eventually... Thanks for the pertinent info as always. Nice to finally understand gut feelings with equations :-)
@mathsproffesor962 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@christianadkins23052 жыл бұрын
This video made me feel like I was actually in a corner. Well done 👏 ✔ 😌
@Haplo592 жыл бұрын
Solid content, good popularization
@OrenBroder2 жыл бұрын
very good explanation
@Penafort2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see the people that disliked this video are still alive
@Bharadwajbs2 жыл бұрын
nice and informative video
@paulkitchen58022 жыл бұрын
Dude you explained this so well for people who have no concept! Yet, they still have no concept! But why does my KTM 1190 Adventure with 19" front, large wheelbase, 550 lbs and a rake and trail of 26 degree and trail of 4.72, turn on a dime? Compared to Street Triple 401lbs 24.3 degree and 3.75" is it all in my head? LOL You rock!
@manolomaru2 жыл бұрын
Suuuper video like always bro!!! :) :) ;)
@enigma_plus2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, brother!
@jetlag4free6212 жыл бұрын
Big big Motolove! Love my very own Kawasaki. Always putting up the good stuff like Delta Parole, Metallica, Alice In Chains and others when I am working on her and sometimes even on drive! Moto is life
@Shahar_C2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thanks! (Also, a great humor brake with that image at 8:12 🤣 )
@dan19062 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much for using load transfer instead of weight transfer. Weight doesn't transfer unless some mass is moving about the chassis.