The Truth About the "Banned Books" of the Bible: Evidence for the Bible pt14

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Mike Winger

Mike Winger

7 жыл бұрын

Including quotes and summaries of the "lost gospels" and "banned books". Never again be caught off guard or confounded by references to the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter, the Gospel of Mary, or the Gospel of Judas.

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@Angelotube5000
@Angelotube5000 4 жыл бұрын
19:11 Gospel of Thomas 25:43 Infancy Gospel of Thomas 31:55 Gospel of Mary 36:30 Gospel of Peter 41:25 Protoevangelion of James 48:00 Gospel of Judas 50:08 Acts of John 50:35 Acts of Paul
@cb90222
@cb90222 3 жыл бұрын
Jasher, the book of Susanna, Enoch, etc etc all book missi from the Bible bc of the Vatican doesn't want you to know the truth
@jhamilton1007
@jhamilton1007 3 жыл бұрын
@@cb90222 Maccabees as well
@timrodriguez16
@timrodriguez16 3 жыл бұрын
Acts of Paul sounds like a great Narnia book!
@jhamilton1007
@jhamilton1007 3 жыл бұрын
@@timrodriguez16 Or DUNE
@runnininthe80s84
@runnininthe80s84 3 жыл бұрын
@@cb90222 they are all easily available online.
@joeg9840
@joeg9840 4 жыл бұрын
As a newer believer, Mike has been an answer to my prayers! There are so many people with so many views and opinions but Mike Winger clearly studies hard and thoroughly, there is no doubt in my mind and more importantly my HEART that he speaks truth! God bless you Michael!
@metoo3705
@metoo3705 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 💯
@joseg.solano1891
@joseg.solano1891 2 жыл бұрын
Mind = heart
@Gen-ZChristian
@Gen-ZChristian 2 жыл бұрын
May you please share your testimony?
@beebarfthebard
@beebarfthebard Жыл бұрын
me too
@dp1381
@dp1381 Жыл бұрын
I too am a new believer and I love Mike Winger. He clearly does thorough research on ever topic he presents, and presents the information simply.
@HeyTripleJ
@HeyTripleJ Жыл бұрын
It’s extremely painful when people you love don’t have discernment or fall victim easily to heresy, cults/cult thinking, and deception. :( it hurts to watch end it hurts even more to experience.😢
@nykka3
@nykka3 Ай бұрын
💯
@kevinsolveson5480
@kevinsolveson5480 2 жыл бұрын
"When you get a little more information, it really helps you out" - Mike Winger. Amen, Mike! Thank you!
@alexandria1663
@alexandria1663 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I was talking to a Catholic about Mary’s perpetual virginity and he told me that exact explanation from the Protoevangelion. How I WISH I’d known the source back then! Thank you for this series a hundred times. It’s so so helpful.
@AmeeraG242
@AmeeraG242 2 жыл бұрын
That is so helpful to know ! I frequently witness to catholics and they throw alot at you these sources and knowledge is so helpful
@powerfulaura5166
@powerfulaura5166 Жыл бұрын
1:28 1 Clement 4:05 The Didache 10:56 The Shepherd of Hermas 13:17 Polycarp's Epistle to the Philippians ☝ Pinned comment is useful, but here are timestamps for the wholesome, early Christian (non-heretical) reading.
@malenejensen2995
@malenejensen2995 9 ай бұрын
I really want to read the Didache now, even though I'm not a new Christian... But I have finally forsaken the hyper charismatic movement 😊
@powerfulaura5166
@powerfulaura5166 8 ай бұрын
_The Didache_ is a great read indeed.@@malenejensen2995
@janniagonzalez5459
@janniagonzalez5459 Ай бұрын
thanks so much, I couldn't get the names just by hearing
@marciemartin1685
@marciemartin1685 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sooooo Much!! I spent last night praying to God about these books, I came to my computer & asked again for him to help me understand...AND BOOM!! There you were!! PRAISE YOU GOD FOR ANSWERING PRAYERS!!
@KorenJoy
@KorenJoy 3 жыл бұрын
Praise YHWH 🙌🏾
@AmeeraG242
@AmeeraG242 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me !
@AveCaesar2112
@AveCaesar2112 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you found the search bar!
@henrytims4745
@henrytims4745 Жыл бұрын
@@AveCaesar2112 do you not feel at all embarrassed over how whiny you sound?
@iKeto_gal
@iKeto_gal 4 ай бұрын
@@AveCaesar2112 Don't think he searched, but that it showed up in his recommendations
@candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922
@candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922 6 жыл бұрын
This has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter, but I had a thought.... if someone wanted to get you a gift, a plaid shirt seems like a safe bet! Good job being faithful in your ministry. God bless.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 6 жыл бұрын
Haha
@redxpro1
@redxpro1 4 жыл бұрын
Candice Knuth-Winterfeldt I wear shirts like that. It’s pretty nice! I’d wear that!!
@dpcrn
@dpcrn 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Western shirt. He wears it well.
@meomy29
@meomy29 2 жыл бұрын
How many plaid shirts do you suppose he's gotten in the mail since you posted this? ha ha ha
@CommonSense858
@CommonSense858 Жыл бұрын
Having come out of the independent baptist movement...Mike Winger has been an amazing breath of fresh air. Thanks Mike!
@christopherg.matton9610
@christopherg.matton9610 3 жыл бұрын
The Infancy Gospel of Thomas sounds like an early draft of The Omen
@nexteffects
@nexteffects 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus: Don't make me angry Mr. McGee. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
@KKKaTTT123
@KKKaTTT123 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
@cnramsey
@cnramsey 3 жыл бұрын
I guess now we know why Joseph is missing from the Gospels. 🤣
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. The religion for breakfast yt stream has an entire show about it.
@blickysticky6012
@blickysticky6012 8 ай бұрын
What is the omen
@txwjkumxyooj2026
@txwjkumxyooj2026 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE CHRISTIANS AND PASTORS LIKE YOU!
@carolinatoledo5255
@carolinatoledo5255 4 жыл бұрын
I died with the "Infancy Gospel of Thomas" 😂
@cardcounter21
@cardcounter21 3 жыл бұрын
Your brain died with the "talking snake and donkey and someone living inside a fishes belly" Gospel!
@music0326
@music0326 3 жыл бұрын
Your brain died when it killed God
@smallhors848
@smallhors848 3 жыл бұрын
@@cardcounter21 well that’s not a gospel…
@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411
@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 3 жыл бұрын
@@cardcounter21 The talking snake was either just Satan in a different form or Satan possessing a snake, and not an actual snake, the donkey could not talk on it's own and was only able to talk through the power of God, and Jonah was likely made to be able to live inside the giant fish/whale through the power of God.
@cardcounter21
@cardcounter21 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 _The talking snake was either just Satan in a different form or Satan possessing a snake, and not an actual snake_ So why did God punish all snakes for what Satan did?
@MAP2023
@MAP2023 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a Second part with the Book of Enoch and the Deutorocanonical Old Testament books!!!
@ladycampion
@ladycampion 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else think of The Twilight Zone's "It's a Good Life" when he read from The Infancy Gospel of Thomas?
@anunknownentity1637
@anunknownentity1637 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 2 жыл бұрын
The gospel might have been the inspiration for that part
@Strongtower
@Strongtower Жыл бұрын
Thought of that episode as well
@ladycampion
@ladycampion Жыл бұрын
@@Strongtower Yay! 😊
@willbyrob6582
@willbyrob6582 3 жыл бұрын
What if one day, they dig up an ancient text called “The Gospel of Pilate” 😂
@TheRangeroftheWastes
@TheRangeroftheWastes 2 жыл бұрын
There is one. Not joking about that haha
@TheRangeroftheWastes
@TheRangeroftheWastes 2 жыл бұрын
@TheGoodOlRebel Yes. Its all about how Pilate became a believer after the crucifixion, what he witnessed after the death and resurrection, and the letters he sent afterwards telling the world of christ.
@TheRangeroftheWastes
@TheRangeroftheWastes 2 жыл бұрын
@TheGoodOlRebel sorry haha. I thought you were the OP
@donatist59
@donatist59 8 ай бұрын
Pilate is a Saint in the Coptic church!
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 жыл бұрын
These books were not canonical for three reasons: One, with the heresies in some, and with the inconsistencies, unknown histories, and such within them. Two, with the inconsistencies and inaccuracies, and not going with the flow of the teachings of the Scriptures. Number three, because they were not inspired by God.. they were not God-breathed.. they were not written by the apostles of Christ. To be an apostle, you have had to have seen the Risen Christ, and personally be called by Him in to that special office. So, that is why none of these books are in the Bible.
@reviewtechUSSR1
@reviewtechUSSR1 Жыл бұрын
So in other words they don't make you feel as nice and fuzzy inside?
@user-cs7fg5eq9r
@user-cs7fg5eq9r Жыл бұрын
@@reviewtechUSSR1 In other words their useless for people like you and you don't like it.
@ifeanyichukwu3644
@ifeanyichukwu3644 Жыл бұрын
@@reviewtechUSSR1 No 🤦‍♂️
@reviewtechUSSR1
@reviewtechUSSR1 Жыл бұрын
@@ifeanyichukwu3644 Yes. Sorry I'm right and you're wrong.
@ifeanyichukwu3644
@ifeanyichukwu3644 Жыл бұрын
@@reviewtechUSSR1 Nope. You are wrong, extremely wrong
@jgil1966
@jgil1966 5 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much, it's so funny i always come back to it every other 8 months lol
@gavart4509
@gavart4509 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that “evil baby Jesus” at 38 mins got a laugh, that was hilarious
@jaspin555
@jaspin555 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please cover the book of Enoch specifically?
@med4699
@med4699 4 жыл бұрын
Please do.
@XlllXlllXlllX
@XlllXlllXlllX 4 жыл бұрын
@@med4699 he's not going to ... because it goes against his secret "christian conversion agenda"
@XlllXlllXlllX
@XlllXlllXlllX 4 жыл бұрын
@Caleb Lewis ...I was raised Christian...but I will admit...I left Christianity because of the hypocrisy...and secrecy __ie : the "book of Enoch" + the "greed, racism & feminist narcissism" that they hide (not all)...but at some point...I simply had enough...no offense
@billhesford6098
@billhesford6098 4 жыл бұрын
@Caleb Lewis Psalm 32: 1-3 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity...:" The gospel is truly or actually very good news. God chooses to not impute (ascribe) sin to his elect. God chooses to cover our sin. Like He covered Adam with animal skins in the Garden of Eden. The early church did not accept Enoch. We have plenty of early writers before 200 AD speaking of the accepted books and Enoch was not considered scripture. It was read along with a lot of other books like we read other materials today. But Enoch was never considered scripture. That I know of. I don't think we can add it today with an honest look at church history. Throw away church history at our peril. Which book will be found interesting next? Or removed -because there will be more put forward. That is what history tells us.
@Rose-wx2ct
@Rose-wx2ct 3 жыл бұрын
Book of Enoch just prove the Bible,not disprove:)
@twiceborn_by_grace
@twiceborn_by_grace 6 жыл бұрын
The infancy gospel of Thomas makes me wonder if Anne Rice used it when she wrote Young Messiah.
@lonelyguyofficial8335
@lonelyguyofficial8335 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but then only by principle, being, about him as a child. The rest she clearly gave the finger to. Lol.
@marylandgirl9246
@marylandgirl9246 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too.
@Mojojojo85757
@Mojojojo85757 3 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned the gospel of Thomas video I had to STOP ✋ and immediately go find it, and I’m so glad I did 😂 my favorite thing about it is the filmmakers choice to represent Jesus like a cheesy 80s double exposure portrait 🤣🤣🤣
@brandon.crotchett
@brandon.crotchett 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to it? I can’t seem to find it lol
@gerilynn9002
@gerilynn9002 5 жыл бұрын
As you went through the Gnostic rejected books and how ridiculous they are I couldn't stop thinking.... I would love to see someone do a mockumentary cartoon (laugh your butt off) depiction of these stories... a spoof that presents how hideous and far out there that these are and... hope that it would go viral. For all those who have not actually read the text but are more than willing to proclaim "lost gospels" and "banned books" as if Christianity/the church has deprived of secret wisdom... it would be great to see the foolishness of the believers of these revealed and that it would be lunacy to find any value in these writings.
@henrytooren9691
@henrytooren9691 5 жыл бұрын
When I studied theology in the Netherlands Bart Ehrman's book was my textbook on the new testament. I Iearned a lot from it. Later in my third year I leaned about gnosis and gospels like the gospel of Thomas and the childhood gospels.I had to translate them. What I learned from Ehrman made very clear to me that those gospels were fake. Ehrman is a historian, the non christian kind.
@shredhed572
@shredhed572 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people say many things. Ermans claim of being an historian isn't true. He says he is to give himself cred.
@ambermattheis4539
@ambermattheis4539 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for researching this content and sharing your findings in such an accessible way! I love listening to your videos!
@YeshuaSaves3
@YeshuaSaves3 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike! Love your content brother, I just had a question. Are these recordings from your Sunday service or do these talks happen on another day like some sort of Bible study night?
@karenhall4645
@karenhall4645 3 жыл бұрын
When you add myth to the Gospel you get comedy. Listening to the resurrection story from The Gospel of Peter, I'm sitting here laughing. I'm relieved the talking cross never made the cut.
@miss_pearl
@miss_pearl 3 жыл бұрын
The infancy gospel OF Thomas finished me with laughter. These gospels are pure comedy.
@eugenesanders3094
@eugenesanders3094 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Gospel of Thomas is without a doubt a pseudepigraphic work, but so are some of the writings in the Bible, such as the pseudo-pauline epistles. To use the word "forgery" to describe this kind of ancient literature is a loaded term because ancient scriptural authors did not see it the same way. Using the name of a famous legendary figure was simply a way to get attention to the writing and did not have the kind of unethical baggage that the term "forgery" has to modern ears. The Book of Enoch is also clearly pseudepigraphic... and yet JUDE, in his epistle, quotes from it directly in the context of it being authoritative. Jude says that "Enoch prophesied" those words in the Book of Enoch, and yet the Book of Enoch was written centuries after Enoch. So...the Bible itself sets a precedent for embracing pseudepigraphic "forgeries."
@canabiss8297
@canabiss8297 2 жыл бұрын
@@eugenesanders3094 false. flat out wrong.
@eugenesanders3094
@eugenesanders3094 2 жыл бұрын
@@canabiss8297 No, everything I said was truthful. Sorry if you're upset by facts.
@eugenesanders3094
@eugenesanders3094 2 жыл бұрын
@Pro Semite It is the NT epistle of Jude that quotes directly from the pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch, in the context of it being inspired. Jude clearly believed that the Book of Enoch was the inspired word of God & authoritative.
@linderize
@linderize 7 жыл бұрын
thank you. thank you. THANK YOU. OH MY GOSH YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA ... NONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. finally, someone WHO KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS. THANK YOU, JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@seanm.3481
@seanm.3481 2 жыл бұрын
They'll say "SEE THIS IS IN THE SCRIPTURES AND ITS STUPID" like yeah its garbage. That's why it wasn't added to the Bible.
@Papasquatch73
@Papasquatch73 4 жыл бұрын
Mike I just want you to know I have been using your material since last September. I am now on this lesson. I took off the summer. It is a blessing what you prepare that keeps blessing. I take 2 to 3 Bible class periods to cover one of yours. So eventually I will finish this series. I am in no hurry. I have the remainder of my life to share the Word with you. I pray for you often to stay strong in the face of adversity. California can be tough
@Oct_sflb
@Oct_sflb 3 жыл бұрын
"Whoever drinks from My mouth-" *Pardon.*
@moorzy8385
@moorzy8385 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you said Shepard of Hermas was “weird”. I said the same and was worried I was just missing something lol
@kvelez
@kvelez 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've been studying the gnostics and how to refute them, and this helped a lot. Much love and blessing to you brother Winger.
@curiositychroniclesx
@curiositychroniclesx 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video. I’ve been enjoying your channel! It’s like a course in Christian apology. Very thorough! I feel so smart after watching 😃
@TheChillBison
@TheChillBison Жыл бұрын
This one was definitely fun! All these "gospels" so clearly just take themselves down. Internally inconsistent, inconsistent with the four gospels, outright nonsensical in places. As you said, about what you would expect of fiction.
@murdaqapitol5044
@murdaqapitol5044 4 жыл бұрын
U did a great job man. Plus super funny!! Love it man keep doin ur thing!
@deborahjiggens7199
@deborahjiggens7199 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Brother ❤ and I laughed so hard! We all need a great laugh, even in these last days. In curious about all the other lost books, if any be creditable?
@karenhall4645
@karenhall4645 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, finally somebody on God's side addresses this! I have watched the documentaries on the banned books and all the "scholars" who defend them and it's cringe inducing.
@mommy2lou
@mommy2lou 5 жыл бұрын
This had me laughing more than an intentional comedy! Any one with a mediocre knowledge of the gospel will recognize these books as agendized forgeries. If not, well, I'd have to question that person's intelligence. Thank you Mik Winger. I love your channel. God bless.
@ashleyvalkoss2130
@ashleyvalkoss2130 4 жыл бұрын
Adria on the vine did that ego come from Jesus? Humble yourself and pray, seek truth.
@redxpro1
@redxpro1 4 жыл бұрын
Adria: Satans job it to deceive, confuse and divide. After reading most of these “rejected” books and closely comparing them to the KJV Bible. It’s pretty clear that SOME of these are heresy and others (that were part of the original texts before the 1611 version King James changes) were widely accepted as inspired. So if the devil can convince people that they ALL are heresy, he’s done his job confusing and dividing. When you read these books you have to pray first and ask God to open your eyes with deep discernment and then you’ll KNOW if they are from God or not!
@Narrow-Pather
@Narrow-Pather 4 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to begin listening and studying this. Thank you.
@jgil1966
@jgil1966 5 жыл бұрын
this was so much fun i didn't want it to end!
@jishaphilip6353
@jishaphilip6353 3 жыл бұрын
May God bless you abundantly Mike. Thanks for your videos
@athb4hu
@athb4hu 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it was fascinating.
@MalachiCo0
@MalachiCo0 2 жыл бұрын
The sayings in Gospel of Thomas sounds like that one stoner that gets high and starts thinking about philosophy and it doesn't make a lick of sense
@shantelcole96
@shantelcole96 3 жыл бұрын
Great study, thank you. I was hoping you would talk about the book of Enoch, it's been mentioned a lot lately.
@eugenesanders3094
@eugenesanders3094 3 жыл бұрын
Jude quotes from Enoch directly in the context of it being authoritative. Peter alludes to it also. It is an indisputable fact that early Christians (even biblical authors) considered the Book of Enoch to be inspired. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church still includes The Book of Enoch in it's canon today.
@shantelcole96
@shantelcole96 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenesanders3094 yes, I agree. I believe that because the book of Enoch is somewhat reliable, Mark didn't include it in this study but I'd like to know why wasn't it included.
@booboochild4215
@booboochild4215 8 ай бұрын
from what i have researched in the past it wasn't added because they couldn't 100% guarantee it all written by enoch and they thought people may have added on to it
@jamesthelesser6975
@jamesthelesser6975 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping he would have touched on the book of Jasher and the book of Enoch
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 жыл бұрын
James The Lesser doesn’t matter, for they both still are apocryphal.
@soupcoup3912
@soupcoup3912 3 жыл бұрын
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 I would like to know why
@explodingrubberducky797
@explodingrubberducky797 3 жыл бұрын
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 Yet Jude Quotes Enoch. Peter alludes to enoch especially in the areas where he talks about the Angels who rebelled being bound in chains of darkness.
@adalynroseprescott8927
@adalynroseprescott8927 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard a lot of well respected gospel loving Christians use the book of Enoch a lot so maybe that’s why. Who knows?
@explodingrubberducky797
@explodingrubberducky797 3 жыл бұрын
@@adalynroseprescott8927 I've read the entire book of Enoch, and honestly, I don't see why a number of people fear it so much. For a book that wasn't penned by Christians, it has the clearest portrayal/prophecy of Christ that any discerning Christian would notice. It has one of the clearest arguments against abortions and even prophesies about abortion in the end times etc.
@joshua_dlima
@joshua_dlima 4 жыл бұрын
Hey which song is that you played in the end
@DareusTyn
@DareusTyn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work doing thorough research.
@whipdadash6135
@whipdadash6135 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video i been searching the reason of why these books were left out for some time and this helped alot thank you and God Bless
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 7 жыл бұрын
+WhipdaDash thank you!
@whipdadash6135
@whipdadash6135 7 жыл бұрын
As old as i am (30) i been searching for months why Book of Enoch and the others were completely rooted out. Knowing that i am a very Big Revelation of John fan and seeing this controversy surround one quote left me down and confused. Digging and delving deep in the modern history of man..one Quote kept me thinking. "any thing that is added or taken out is, those people will not inherit the Kingdom of God." Now giving the idea i didn't go Verbatim but i could not wrap around my head because 21st Century Christians seem to lose any logic beyond what they see.I Just have to give credit to the world we live in for such ignorance and people like you is what i like to see who aren't afraid to challenge the status quo of this world. Truly i thank you for this it answers alot and gives me more Curious Questions.
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger 7 жыл бұрын
+WhipdaDash I'm glad I could help in some way.
@Meg_219
@Meg_219 Жыл бұрын
So helpful, as always Pastor Mike
@brotherandrew6227
@brotherandrew6227 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Mr. Winger. This earns Brother Andrew's seal of approval.
@waitingandwatching9328
@waitingandwatching9328 5 жыл бұрын
Just watched this in Feb 2019 and was grateful for the info. It was hilarious...when we learn this stuff yes you have to laugh when you here the lies. Keep up the good work Mike.
@penguinman9837
@penguinman9837 4 жыл бұрын
This was great! Thank you! God Bless!
@michaelarango7782
@michaelarango7782 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised that the most requested book on here wasn’t touched
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Arango So? That too is apocryphal.
@STeroidsnicca
@STeroidsnicca 3 жыл бұрын
FBN Flavius Broadcasting Network Which book didn’t he cover?
@MunchJinkies
@MunchJinkies 3 жыл бұрын
Maccabees?
@2002THEBOY
@2002THEBOY 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunchJinkies macabees are a historical book but are not inspired
@titusstahl1995
@titusstahl1995 6 ай бұрын
Hi, where can I find the song that plays at the end of this video? Thank you for your tireless work and dedication to providing solid biblical content!
@liliankuhn4671
@liliankuhn4671 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! The Gospel of Thomas contains words & phrases that don't even sound like Yeshua's teachings. That's pretty dangerous. Also, I remember a youtube video a man made who converted from Muslim to Catholicism & he mentioned a clay bird & how Yeshua breathed life into it. That is not in the bible & that never happened. God bless you for taking the time to speak about these untruths about our Messiah. Amen!
@jennamarielovesjesus12
@jennamarielovesjesus12 3 жыл бұрын
All the channels you mentioned is the problem and reason people fall away from the faith. They talk about all of this stuff and then people start to question. If it’s not in the Bible, then leave IT ALONE !!!! Jesus is Lord ✝️✝️
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit Жыл бұрын
I just want unfettered access to the Vad's Libraries, basements and hidden storage vaults. Can you imagine the knowledge that's been locked away by supposed "Holy Men" that have decided for themselves that it is not for our "untrained" eyes/minds for literal centuries/millennia? Yes, my Bibles are enough for me but one can dream can't they and wish to know our Lord even more. I mean how amazing would it be to find works from the Library of Alexandria that only exist in those secure from the "wrong eyes" libraries/vaults/basements... God Bless...
@craftymining8587
@craftymining8587 5 жыл бұрын
The most important belief is accepting Jesus and the most important knowledge is knowing what is of God and what is of the Devil.
@yasminpanasjuk682
@yasminpanasjuk682 2 жыл бұрын
Today we would call those things fanfictions.
@aprilstark8887
@aprilstark8887 5 жыл бұрын
Great teaching, thanks!
@joebidensdiaper8526
@joebidensdiaper8526 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information, thank you...
@gabrielvondohlen4755
@gabrielvondohlen4755 3 жыл бұрын
What was the 2nd book mentioned called
@meomy29
@meomy29 2 жыл бұрын
How do you spell the third book you mentioned @ 13:18?
@friedrichrubinstein2346
@friedrichrubinstein2346 2 жыл бұрын
The letter of "Polycarp the Philippy", better known as the letter of "Polycarp to the Philippians".
@jonorcutt3304
@jonorcutt3304 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you Mike from 6 years ago.
@withlove6973
@withlove6973 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I had heard some of these beliefs and discounted them as nonsense, little did I know just how extraordinarily ridiculous these were... I'm deeply comforted that Paul didn't baptize the lion without a profession of faith....whew!
@thewisemanband
@thewisemanband 5 жыл бұрын
Not saying that I believe in “the lost books of the Bible” but you have to understand the hive-minded romans and Jews ( who killed Jesus because of his teachings). The Bible is a book of history which was first written by romans and Jews. The term hive-mind I used is the mentality of these people. They wanted to control how their people think (it worked) so they would stay in power. If Jesus himself was killed because of his teachings. Why would you believe anything his killers would say? I’m not saying everything in the Bible is wrong but a lot of teachings from Jesus were taken out because the romans and Jews didn’t want anyone to know about. So in all fact how would you know what Jesus ACTUALLY taught by reading the Bible that was wrote by a power hungry hive mind that KILLED Jesus because of his teachings?
@DanielLynds
@DanielLynds 2 жыл бұрын
so interesting. thanks!
@janwaska521
@janwaska521 3 жыл бұрын
We may laugh at the nonsense that is found in those evil materials, but it’s really another sad reflection of our rebellious condition that can’t be cured by natural remedies, but only by God’s Grace. These days the most stupid books become bestsellers before publication. We like to entertain ourselves to the grave watching, reading or listening to complete nonsense that at best is a waste if precious time. The Bible reveals our sinful condition in contrast to our Creator’s perfect purity. That’s why the apostle Paul considered himself the first of sinners, a wretched man. The closer we get to the true Light of the world, the bigger our imperfections appear. Some of the comments in this thread show how easily we can be unaware of our own ignorance. I was in that condition for a substantial part of the years that I’ve been around. So much nonsense is found in some comments. Only deep ignorance can explain it. However, it’s better not to discuss with them, lest one throw pearls to the pigs.
@karliejennaa
@karliejennaa 2 жыл бұрын
Where are all the other parts to this series of videos?
@Freidis
@Freidis Жыл бұрын
19:40 Oh my goodness I found it. The video is called “Gospel of Thomas Movie, Gentle” and can confirm, he is both wide-eyed and spooky looking.
@rweseloh1
@rweseloh1 Ай бұрын
Where can I find the video teaching before this one?
@black-cross
@black-cross Ай бұрын
There's a playlist. Evidence for the bible
@somebodyelseathome
@somebodyelseathome 7 жыл бұрын
+Mike Wenger What about the banned book people like to bring up that involves Lilith? Did anyone of your research bring up anything about that?
@stacy2point0
@stacy2point0 6 жыл бұрын
Who is Lilith? Is there any warrant for calling Lilith Adam’s first wife, or is this just the baseless chatter of woodland creatures? Are there appearances of Lilith in the Bible? Dan Ben-Amos, Professor of Folklore and Asian and Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, explores the figure of Lilith in the Bible and mythology in his article “From Eden to Ednah-Lilith in the Garden” in the May/June 2016 issue of Biblical Archeology Review. - - His analysis shows that Lilith is an intriguing figure who has taken on many shapes over the millennia. Lilith is first mentioned in ancient Babylonian texts as a class of winged female demons that attacks pregnant women and infants. From Babylonia, the legend of “the lilith” spread to ancient Anatolia, Syria, Israel, Egypt and Greece. In this guise-as a wilderness demoness-she appears in Isaiah 34:14 among a list of nocturnal creatures who will haunt the destroyed Kingdom of Edom. This is her only mention in the Bible, but her legend continued to grow in ancient Judaism. During the Middle Ages, Jewish sources began to claim her as Adam’s first-and terrifying-wife. How did Lilith evolve from being a wilderness demon to Adam’s first wife? Interestingly enough, this story begins at the beginning, in Genesis 1. The creation of humans is described in Genesis 1 and in Genesis 2. The first account is fairly straightforward: “So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them” (Genesis 1:27). The second account describes how God formed man out of the dust of the ground and then creates woman from the man: “Then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being. … So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man” (Genesis 2:7, 21-22). In the post-Biblical period, some ancient Jewish scholars took the stance that Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:21-22 must describe two separate events, since it appears that woman is created differently in these accounts. In her Bible Review article “Lilith” in the October 2001 issue, Professor Janet Howe Gaines explains this reasoning: “Considering every word of the Bible to be accurate and sacred, commentators needed a story to explain what seemed to them to be a difference in the creation narratives of Genesis 1 and 2. God supposedly creates woman twice-once with man, once from man’s rib-so there must have been two women. The Bible names the second woman Eve; Lilith was identified as the first in order to complete the story.” Accordingly, Genesis 1:27 describes the creation of Adam and an unnamed woman (Lilith); Genesis 2:7 gives more details of Adam’s creation; and Genesis 2:21-22 describes the creation of Eve from Adam. Lilith’s creation is recounted in The Tales of Ben Sira, an apocryphal work from the tenth century C.E. Dan Ben-Amos explains that although this is the first extant text that records the legend of Lilith, her story probably existed earlier: [Lilith’s] story seems to hover at the edges of literacy with sporadic references. … [I]n the post-Biblical period, the sages identify the lilith several times, not by name, but as “the First Eve,” indicating that her full story was well known in oral tradition, yet barred from the canonized Biblical text. Finally, in the tenth century C.E. in Babylon, an anonymous writer, who was not bound by normative traditional principles and who included in his book some other sexually explicit tales, spelled out the Lilith's adventures in paradise. The Tales of Ben Sira relates that God created Lilith from the earth, just as he had created Adam. They immediately began fighting because neither would submit to the other. Recognizing that Adam would not listen to her, Lilith “pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air” (The Tales of Ben Sira). The angels Snvi, Snsvi and Smnglof were sent to pursue Lilith, but when they reached her, she refused to return with them to the Garden of Eden. “‘Leave me!’ she said. ‘I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days’” (The Tales of Ben Sira). As a compromise, she promised that whenever she saw the angels’ names or forms on amulets, she would leave the child alone. She also agreed that 100 of her children-demons would die every day. The Lilith legend continued to grow and change over the following centuries, which is reflected in various artistic depictions of her. While some portrayed Lilith as a beautiful woman, others showed her in a more sinister light.
@daric_
@daric_ 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a banned book. That's from the Jewish Talmud, the oral traditions of the Jews that were passed down and written much later. This was the stuff Jesus talked about when he condemned the traditions of their fathers. Not even worth worrying about.
@lonelyguyofficial8335
@lonelyguyofficial8335 5 жыл бұрын
@@stacy2point0 Nice one.
@stacy2point0
@stacy2point0 5 жыл бұрын
@Daric , Yes you are correct... but I was just answering a question that was asked about Lilith.
@redxpro1
@redxpro1 4 жыл бұрын
Read The 2nd book of Adam and Eve chapter 3:9: "But I rejoiced over the birth of thy son Seth; yet after a little while I sorrowed greatly over Eve, because she is my sister. For when God sent a deep sleep over thee, and drew her out of thy side, He brought me out also with her. But He raised her by placing her with thee, while He lowered me.” This is Satan deceiving Adam to believe that a SECOND woman was taken from him as Eve was. Could these stories come from such a source since it is all deception it would make sense as it was a made up story of the devil meant to confuse!!
@jeremymckeithan7142
@jeremymckeithan7142 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video brother, loved the tbn joke and relating the secret to narcissism!
@karenhall4645
@karenhall4645 3 жыл бұрын
Funny that the Gospel of Thomas dehumanizes women. But all those documentaries say that Mary was second in command and the books were hidden to hide this fact. Kind of a contradiction there.
@77hephzibah
@77hephzibah 4 жыл бұрын
I LOLed when Mike said TBN 🤣🤣🤣
@markmooney5662
@markmooney5662 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to find this video....as these false doctrines are appearing yet again in documentary form in 2021.....IE the marriage of Jesus and Mary of Magdalene.....GOD bless and keep the Christian family and please protect the Word from these false doctrines. Grace and peace Gilly wife of Mark
@KaloStrathmore
@KaloStrathmore Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike what can U tell me about the 'sealed book' I know people who say it's God's new words koz Jesus has come back as a man (again) and given these words. Is this true?
@TheBlubunni
@TheBlubunni 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 the readings from the weird books.... too funny! 😂😂😂 dead!!!
@cardcounter21
@cardcounter21 3 жыл бұрын
I laugh every time I read about talking donkeys and snakes!
@benrex7775
@benrex7775 5 жыл бұрын
Finally know where the age of Mary and the age of Joseph come from. Now I can rest easy and dismiss it completely.
@ChrisHolman
@ChrisHolman 3 жыл бұрын
Have you made a video on the Deuterocononical books?
@apostolicashley7444
@apostolicashley7444 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there Mike, I noticed while studying the Didache in Chapter 9 it references the Last Super or Comunion and says to only share this with the saints that have been baptized in the name of Jesus, the literal word here is the Greek name for Jesus. I have read some historical commentaries, whom lean toward the opinion that this "Trinitarian Formula" was actually an addition to further inspire the doctorine of the Catholic church, hence the head sprinkling, which I notice you paraphrased as "whatever they had available".
@canabiss8297
@canabiss8297 2 жыл бұрын
you just read that into it completely
@taoyang_
@taoyang_ 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video👏🏾
@GrabEmByThePlushie
@GrabEmByThePlushie 5 ай бұрын
I watched this whole series shortly after it came out as i started truly growing in my walk with Christ. Now 7 years later and knowing a lot more, it really hits harder. Especially these heretical text.
@jgil1966
@jgil1966 5 жыл бұрын
Please make a Part 2
@johnsmith6544
@johnsmith6544 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your thoughts about the book of Enoch??
@TikvahDave
@TikvahDave Жыл бұрын
How do I find the other “parts” of this video
@MikeWinger
@MikeWinger Жыл бұрын
Here you go. kzfaq.info/sun/PLZ3iRMLYFlHuhA0RPKZFHVcjIMN_-F596
@relajado-fx5rf
@relajado-fx5rf Жыл бұрын
@@MikeWinger Pastor Mike, thank you for all you do
@ericsonofjohn9384
@ericsonofjohn9384 2 жыл бұрын
Only on the gospel of Thomas, but it’s interesting that he chose “sayings” rather than actually telling a cohesive narrative. You have to plan a cohesive narrative, you have to understand history, the notable people, and get the acts all in order. But with “sayings”, you can pretty much come up with whatever you like if you think you can convince people it’s godly. Notice that Muhammed also did this. The quran is a book of sayings.
@sketchstuffs
@sketchstuffs 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so I have a theory as to the origin of the infancy Thomas book. After hearing all of this, all I could think of is some guys got together and wrote some form of comic book style entertainment along the lines of what Brightburn is to Superman. So, like a “what if” type situation. It was probably even read as such (entertainment) in that day, and then throughout the years it slowly lost it’s original ridiculousness as a crazy what if story and morphed into an actual gospel.
@vegaelmasbuscado
@vegaelmasbuscado 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought the same thing lol
@serges9351
@serges9351 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please continue this video and cover a few more books such as... "The Book Of Jasher" and "The Book Of Enoch" ?
@getter_done
@getter_done 5 жыл бұрын
What about....The book of. Nicodemus?
@boonrobiadek
@boonrobiadek 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah those are popular now days
@justchilling704
@justchilling704 5 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge they are both Jewish literature that Jesus likely read they aren’t inspired so thus not apart of scripture but, they are still interesting History/historical books.
@MuMu-fu7qe
@MuMu-fu7qe 3 жыл бұрын
I downloaded an app that has a bunch of lost books. I found the Psalms of Solomon and the First Book of Adam & Eve really interesting. I think of it as Bible fan fiction. I hope it hasn't clouded my understanding of the scriptures though! Eeek lol
@FaithfulComforter
@FaithfulComforter Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that canon Biblical scripture is always quoting each other and exalting the deity of Christ and our Heavenly Father’s love and creation.
@JR-ug1oy
@JR-ug1oy 2 жыл бұрын
i was actual getting worried way that they were real but thanks this has been an answer to my prayers ish since I got divided on this
@thefonz1589
@thefonz1589 4 жыл бұрын
Q...ever heard of Neville Goddard? I would love to hear your opinion on his teachings...thanks!
@ogloc6308
@ogloc6308 2 жыл бұрын
these are actually hilarious lol thanks pastor mike
@josephmclaughlin6191
@josephmclaughlin6191 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people think that I'm skeptical enough to question the gospels, but dumb enough not to question their information.
@susanibuanokpe9592
@susanibuanokpe9592 Жыл бұрын
Im finding the need to comment, because as much as I'm loving this series, particularly the Daniel parts as it really reignited my faith, I wish when you speak about the gnostic books that it wasnt dismissed so quickly simply because its comical to you, unbelievable or doesn't correspond with what is said in the accepted Canon books. Some of us coming at this from a place of real doubt, and for whatever reason, were not able to dismiss it so easily. The dating of when they were written is a great help, but the thing with doubt is that thos niggling questions of: "well how do they know the right date?", "and "what if all of these gnostic books are right, and all of the Canon books are wrong" start to ring in your ears. As I said, I'm loving the series, but the rationale for why books are cannon and why some are not, cannot be "because they themselves (the author) says it's a word from God, and it was accepted without question in their time." We have examples of religions, sects and cults who have done the same thing throughout time. And likewise, saying its "gnostic and not ever considered cannon" because they are so different to what is accepted cannon, is a hard rationale to swallow. Im listening, and I'm learning plus watching your videos where you answer questions and its definitely helping. But I just needed to pause and comment this thinking. Thanks
@Strongtower
@Strongtower Жыл бұрын
Check out Wesley Huff. He's a Bible scholar and I think he'd help you.
@fritzco55
@fritzco55 3 жыл бұрын
These works were obviously translated, do we know if the originals, or at least copies in original language are still kept?
@lanceforeman3675
@lanceforeman3675 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work brother🙏👊
@darrenparker284
@darrenparker284 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mike you never addressed some of the most famous OT apocrypha like the book of Enoch. Could you address that at some point?
@eugenesanders3094
@eugenesanders3094 3 жыл бұрын
Jude quotes from Enoch directly in the context of it being authoritative. Peter alludes to it also. It is an indisputable fact that early Christians (even biblical authors) considered the Book of Enoch to be inspired. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church still includes The Book of Enoch in it's canon today.
@jaonatohinirina565
@jaonatohinirina565 2 жыл бұрын
The gospel of mary sounds like a video game pitch 😂😂
@GruntStyleChris
@GruntStyleChris 5 жыл бұрын
Have you done anything on the Book of Enoch?
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