The Case Against the Sexual Revolution | Louise Perry 165
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Күн бұрынIn this episode, I spoke with Louise Perry. Louise is a writer, journalist, and a campaigner based in London. In 2022 she co-founded a non-partisan feminist think tank called The Other Half, where she serves as Research Director. She's the author of the debut book, "The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century," which was released in the U.S. in August 2022.
Together, Louise and I discussed common sense feminism, the sexual revolution, the feminist case for marriage, the digital harem, and much more.
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[0:00] Intro
[1:55] What is Common Sense Feminism?
[4:06] The Sexual Revolution and Aspiring Toward Masculinity
[9:18] Economic Trade-Offs of Women Being in the Workplace
[14:12] Consequences of the Birth Control Pill
[19:22] The Feminist Case for Marriage
[20:36] Sexual Asymmetries Between Men and Women
[27:31] The Main Beneficiaries of the Sexual Revolution
[32:18] IVF and the Limits of Medical Technology
[35:23] The Digital Harem of Online Dating and High Status Men
[40:19] Tradition as a Solution to a Failed Sexual Revolution
[46:10] Maternal Parenting Instincts
[51:46] Shifting Early Family and Motherhood Norms
[1:02:15] Outro
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@mikhaila Жыл бұрын
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@DudeRanchDan Жыл бұрын
You can't knock Canadian Netflix too much, Kim's Convenience was a pretty great show.
@JRD_Youtube Жыл бұрын
I am a dad with two young kids. Having a family is unbelievably expensive. Also the incentive system right now is geared towards keeping you from being successful because if you get any kind of assistance, you will lose it if you make too much money. The incentive systems are all wrong.
@brandonmaxfield1052 Жыл бұрын
you probably just made a drinking game with your beef stick add lol
@ScaryStoriesNYC Жыл бұрын
It wasn't sexual FREEDOM that didn't work. It was a pressure to behave in one way that didn't work. That isn't freedom-- freedom is ALWAYS good.
@rorytennes8576 Жыл бұрын
Mikhaila, do you know how much you sound like your dad? In a good way. Certain phrases and words and nods. Kinda cool 😎
@angelagunn3729 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear Louise say that the washing machine did more to free women than other things; my grandmother told me that the happiest day of her life was getting her first washing machine because she no longer had to spend an entire day scrubbing my grandfather's filthy overalls on a washboard. I believe that the traditional wash day routine was the equivalent of running a half marathon.
@JeffCaplan313 Жыл бұрын
That explains why women are so obese these days.
@grannyannie2948 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother said similar things about washing machines, along with something I think we take even more for granted. Hot water systems. My grandmother would speak of how many daily things, doing the dishes, cleaning the floor, having a bath, meant heating large amounts of water on a stove.
@youtubeyoutube936 Жыл бұрын
People or I should say women complain about the past about women not being able to be x or y totally forgetting that for 99% of the population work was just that and physical, more physical the further back in time. In such societies work split by gender being a very logical position. In my experience on the edge of this type of society men getting up at app 4 am yo go off to do hard physical work for 8/10 hours travelling app 4 hrs a day and doing it 5/6 days a week. On the female side running a home etc was also more physical.
@deldia Жыл бұрын
White goods
@kst2154 11 ай бұрын
The other day I saw a Spanish documentary, in which the women met in the laundry and began to talk and converse with other women, washing clothes had a social aspect, I think we are assessing from a material point of view but many things from the past have more than one edge
@quintintheron8655 Жыл бұрын
As a man. I wish to acknowledge that there may be sanity in our future, the more this level of wisdom is perpetuated. Thank you both.
@rachaelthompson6841 Жыл бұрын
Your message warms my heart.
@GhostlyNomad130 Жыл бұрын
As a man Balance is one of the most important factors in Life. I believe that EVERYONE is both Masculine and Feminine however most often it takes Until Full Maturity for you to develop the Opposite Genders Proclivities.
@quintintheron8655 Жыл бұрын
@@GhostlyNomad130 ok
@MrX-nc8cm Жыл бұрын
Here I’m another men that is thankful with these wise women trying to share the truth. I have more faith in the future too
@farr4_moon87 Жыл бұрын
Facists the lot of u.
@MrManchesterqueen Жыл бұрын
This made me feel sooooo much better about being a stay at home mom! My little girl is almost 2 & staying home with her has been more awarding than working for a title company, a pharmacy, & in retail. My whole family looks down on me for being a stay at home mom, but it has been the only time in my life that I feel like I have a purpose in this life ❤
@DivyaRaviraj Жыл бұрын
I want that for myself
@MrManchesterqueen Жыл бұрын
@@DivyaRaviraj I believe you can ❤🥰❤
@lindagarrido4353 Жыл бұрын
My mother stayed at home and had no economic independence. As soon as he could, my father found a younger model and left my mother high and dry with no marketable skills and no money of her own. I will take working and having my own money any day over having to grovel to a man to survive.
@justwonder1404 Жыл бұрын
I don't have kids and not sure if I will, but I saw my younger siblings growing up and you're doing one of the hardest and most noble jobs. Mothers' work should never be looked down on.
@helenarichard Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt look down in you. You are living my dream 💕
@mirandaoberhausen739 Жыл бұрын
When she said that the bit about how the only people who have truly benefited from the sexual revolution were high status men i could have cried.....it's so true and it's so appalling to me that people don't see that
@tranzorz6293 Жыл бұрын
The average guy has seen it for a long time now. Its nothing new.
@jrd33 Жыл бұрын
She's wrong, but probably because she's young and lacks historical context. My mother was born in 1936 and she certainly benefitted in many ways from the sexual revolution. I was born in 1965 and women of my generation had many more opportunities than previous generations. They were also mostly getting married and having children in their 20s/early 30s.
@thrilla72 Жыл бұрын
@@jrd33 Huh? What you said needs clarification. Where is the benefit?
@thrilla72 Жыл бұрын
@@realalexmackenzie Lol, come on bro. Don't split hairs. If you have many applications, it is likely that you have a highly desirable partner in waiting. The average man has little to no choice in partner, so I'd say you're in a strong position. To be able to say you don't want loads of women just one meaninful relationship. Privilege is invisible to those who have it.
@gumdeo Жыл бұрын
Five percent of men and zero percent of women.
@barbrarule2621 Жыл бұрын
As far as women being taken advantage of because they are usually more naturally agreeable. It gives me a new view of the tradition of a father giving away the bride (walking her down the isle). The father was not meant to be her owner but instead, her body guard and protector. Not because she is less of person but because she naturally wants to see other people happy from her agreeable nature. So having a more disagreeable father watching for the guys who would take advantage of her is incredibly helpful. So sad when we missread tradition.
@dakotamabry1645 Жыл бұрын
Fathers are suppose to protect their daughters, but let's not forget their are fathers today that sell their daughters "marriage " in the u.s .. and initially that's what it was you marry my daughter you give me this land or cow .. so at 10 years old a girl would be married off ro a man well over 30 and that child will give birth and die from giving birth
@Thegraylady Жыл бұрын
AMEN. It’s also why fathers and brothers historically were the ones taking out vengeance on men who had taken advantage of or abused women.
@Grktwngrl23 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@Thegraylady Жыл бұрын
@@vivienneb6199 respectfully, I don’t think this practice necessarily has anything to do with TEACHING a girl to be agreeable. I believe evidence suggests women tend to be that way biologically. However, not all of us are all that agreeable (myself included). We are however smaller and weaker than men anyhow, agreeable or not, so having the men in the family traditionally protect the women is no bad thing. Of course, there have been plenty of bad fathers, but I think the point was that tradition isn’t all about negativity…there is some function and care behind it.
@Seven_of_sixes Жыл бұрын
Or instead of labeling and limiting the masculine to an owner (authoratorian) or protector. See it for what it is a father giving apart of himself away to another man. That's it, no inversion from a cultural/societal perspective. Then see it as a ritual honoring natural law the Holy Atom/Trinity. Marriage is the exchange of electrons between atoms.
@MrX-nc8cm Жыл бұрын
Im a 25 year old man and I can’t describe how thankful I am with these wise women who are not afraid sharing the real truth. You’re helping both us men and women who are just trying to live a simple life, to have a family or just a stable relationship. Is so difficult with these crazy modern society rules and high expectations. From my side I’ll try to be the best men I can. Thank you!
@powderandpaint14 Жыл бұрын
Lots of people I know have long term relationships and children, this attitude isn't unusual at all.
@cosmic_gate476 Жыл бұрын
@@powderandpaint14 bruh you really gonna just give an anecdote and then assert your own beliefs with it?
@ac8191 Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins Absolutely right.They are spreading these theories with a purpose and an agenda.
@its_notta_cedar Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins am I missing some comments here? maybe, maybe not. one thing I know for sure is your comment has no context and is almost impossible to understand. I don't agree or disagree I'm just saying your grasp on the English language is slipping. it's always annoying to see someone take an authoritative stance then write some convoluted nonsense that takes four reads to get to the point.
@its_notta_cedar Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins again you could've made a good point but you totally missed it. You're either wrong or make no sense lol. The idea of hookup culture being the norm is a myth. It absolutely exists and seeps into the normal dating culture on a fairly regular basis. It happens enough to say its a problem and the problem lies with a few men and every woman he's ever slept with. Women want relationships with the men who don't. The men lie to the women to hook up with them, that's the man's fault, the woman is at fault for not choosing better men. Whether or not someone wants a relationship but was lied to doesn't change the fact that they hooked up. If you've ever been on a college campus or lived near one you'd understand how dumb your comment is.
@lynncrf Жыл бұрын
I am 42 and live with the daily pain of being childless. I am happily married but was very sick in my 30s so couldn't try for kids until I was 37. If I had been exposed to information like this I would have perhaps been able to overcome the brainwashing I constantly heard about how awful it is to have kids in your 20s. Louise is doing God's work.
@lynncrf Жыл бұрын
@@apatheticnoncombatant7750 Good for you. I wonder how you will feel when you are old without kids though. It's a very different experience to being childless while working, holidaying, socialising etc.
@helenarichard Жыл бұрын
I asked my ex when I was 28 if he could give me children. He made me wait...and wait... Asked again at age 30. I was such an idiot. I felt guilty because I wasn't making a lot of money... But the relationship anxiety made it impossible to work. Ended up suicidal, childless, broke up with him. Worked on myself. Found a much better man at 33 and immediate had a sit down on marriage and children because I want to know EXACTLY where I stand with any man now. Getting married and kids this year it is!
@mateiddd Жыл бұрын
You can still have children, you still have time. My mother made me when she was 45, it was a very good pregnancy and I turned up very healthy. I also had a very good academic performance, so you don't need to fear the child being retarded or with physical disabilities, if you take care of yourself and the pregnancy properly.
@marge3477 Жыл бұрын
My sis conceived at 46 miracles happen.Have faith.
@johnpulawski7706 Жыл бұрын
My Grandmother gave birth to my dear Dad when she was 43½ years old back in 1929. I sincerely hope that you have your child at the most opportune time.
@inthefireagine123 Жыл бұрын
As a 25 yo male who’d given up a lot of hope on getting married or having kids, this gave me some of it back
@johnnydrayper Жыл бұрын
marriage 😂 ur crazy there is literally no benefit to men…enjoy being bossed around and then screwed in divorce court!
@dariaahlm8963 Жыл бұрын
As a man you are at your prime at 35! I am a 21 year Woman... and my husband is much older and we suit each other perfect
@metaphysicalfractionals8751 Жыл бұрын
@Daria Ahlm do you live or are from the west though?
@dariaahlm8963 Жыл бұрын
@@metaphysicalfractionals8751,,, I live in Germany.
@7armedman Жыл бұрын
25? Jesus what a sad sack.
@barbaraszemerei1595 Жыл бұрын
I was called a “prude” by girls in high school and college and when I met my husband (he was 25 and I was 20) he was soooooo relieved to meet a “prude.”
@rutgerhauser2377 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a long term payoff.
@tayamkay Жыл бұрын
@@monikagolab8892 that by itself doesn't mean much to me personally. you can definitely find a man who does value respecting yourself sexually and setting high standards to who you allow to have "access" to you physically, without him basing all of that on virginity.
@CB-dl1vg Жыл бұрын
@@monikagolab8892 A mans value is assessed if he is a virgin also, being, women see him as a bit of a loser lol
@rutgerhauser2377 Жыл бұрын
@@monikagolab8892 It's more of a sad statement on the direction society is taking when that is actually so rare that it is sought after.
@rutgerhauser2377 Жыл бұрын
@@monikagolab8892 It ain't a matter of property, everything is a matter of investments, not just objects. Sure you invest money in objects (like houses), but you also invest money and time into people (be it friendships or relationships). A bad investment is putting more into something and getting less out of it. Putting time, money, or emotional attention to someone who put out to 50 guys around the block at the drop of a hat is a bad investment of said emotions, time, and money.
@fatcat4191 Жыл бұрын
I’m 21 and I can’t describe how much I appreciate this conversation. Thank you.
@JadaLynnOfChrist Жыл бұрын
I'm happy you appreciate this. Your profile pic and username are hilarious
@scapps8173 Жыл бұрын
How you feel will change throughout your life. This is a great conversation. From my view now I think the feminist movement is what ruined this country. I am so glad I did not fall into that trap called feminism. It really isn't feminine. Being a wife and a Mother is being feminine. And I do not have children. But I see the importance of Mother's raising their children. The more money a family makes the more they want. No one ever seems to go back once they fall into that trap. I could go on.. but she is so spot on about everything.
@dathula804 Жыл бұрын
That's one unhealthy cat!! You need to go to work too as mummy does.
@TheFirstBubbaBong Жыл бұрын
Most sheeple are unaware that the Rockefeller family was one of the major backers of the women’s liberation movement for the sole purpose of taxing the other half of humanity while at the same time injecting the work force with cheaper labor rates. #fact
@20yrs_oldBlackGuy 10 ай бұрын
21 year old woman or man?
@Randomcliff01 Жыл бұрын
I was one of those women who was prepared to give up motherhood for the benefit of the world. Luckily at 35 I fell pregnant against all odds and within a stable relationship and he was so delighted we changed our minds. Having children has been the most fulfilling experience of our lives. We had wonderful lives before children but it is incomparable to being a family.
@helenarichard Жыл бұрын
Some gen X man toyed with my precious time at 28 and it made me suicidal and now I am 34 and going to get pregnant this year from a wonderful man 💕
@stevengill1736 8 ай бұрын
I'm 70 now and I'd decided not to have kids because of overpopulation, pollution, etc and my partner agreed, but after being an uncle to many kids and learning more about demographics, both she and I wish we'd had kids now that it's too late. Well, such is life....
@eQuariuz Ай бұрын
@@helenarichard What happened to your prime years 18-26?
@shaunnab1588 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic conversation, as a young married women its nice to hear people talking about marriage and children in a positive way. Rather than insinuating you are throwing you life away by having kids and/or getting married.
@central_scrutinizr Жыл бұрын
@@kc6810 How can you say “you don’t matter anymore” and then in the very same breath say that your husband and children need you constantly, and not see the massive contradiction there? You matter more than anyone else in the world to them. Who else, if not them, are you supposed to matter to?
@MeHoyMinoy-cv3ps Жыл бұрын
@@kc6810 what’s possibly more rewarding than a close and loving family to share experiences with??
@gumdeo Жыл бұрын
It's the wage slaves that throw their life away, toiling daily for those who don't give a damn about them.
@heidiclayton8706 Жыл бұрын
@@central_scrutinizr kids and you first , then teach respect to him
@mayelasanchez5258 Жыл бұрын
My baby was the first I held.. at 32. My husband grew up with lots of family, babysat nephews and nieces. I felt so embarrassed he was the one showing me how to do basic baby care. When I became a mom immediately understood that we shouldn't wait till 'last minute ' to have a baby. I remember sleepless nights not being a big deal on my body/mind in my early 20s and thought THIS is what I was supposed to be doing with that ability,. Also, so many of my friends have no chance of becoming mothers due to infertility issues and now regret putting their careers first or having abortions during their 20s. We were sold a narrative that's not true and now paying for it. We cannot just wait till later
@dacebambite6444 Жыл бұрын
Such a good comment about the ability to deal with sleepless nights easily in Your 20-s and what this skill historically has been used for and probably should still be used for. Never heard anybody else comment on it in this way.
@gracechristina1430 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. I will be encouraging my daughters to find a good man and have a family in their early 20s and use the 30s to pursue a career if they wish to. I feel the exact same, I had my first child at 31, my 2nd at 33 and now I'm 34 trying to decide whether I want to have another child or whether this is it. pregnancy takes such a toll on the body, I wish I had met my partner and started our family earlier.
@PictureItPF Жыл бұрын
I had my children at 32 and 34. I’ve totally had the same thought that it would have been better for me to have them in my 20’s. But I was too busy building a career and getting degrees….which I happily left behind at 40 to be more present with my kids!
@milicarajkovic1220 Жыл бұрын
@@PictureItPF And I see a lot of women having kids in their early 20s ..not having careers and their husbands left them for some 20 yrs younger model or because whatever reason..so they are in their late 30s or early 40s with no job (women in 40s are not easy to employ here) and no money to support their kids...husbands do not care for kids much. I also do not see mature 21 yrs women really being able to take care of kids psychologically... It seems that u ppl think only about the physical challenges to take care of the kid and assume that someone else will provide for you. Partner can die...or leave..or get sick so well...u do need a degree to make some decent money to take care of him and kids if needed.
@PictureItPF Жыл бұрын
@@milicarajkovic1220 no where in my comment did I suggest women shouldn’t work, or that they should choose a shitty mate who would dump them for a younger model.
@nolaquev Жыл бұрын
Mikhaila is a wonderful interviewer. She listens, doesn't interrupt and gives her guests time to answer. Always a pleasure to watch. 😍
@rorym8894 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@lostcauselancer333 Жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is Cathy Newman should be drawn and quartered?
@jacali2737 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize until I read your comment you’re so right!
@selyemperzsa1 Жыл бұрын
She seems to have very little life experience. I appreciate that she is trying to bring very actual topics though.
@justfaqih Жыл бұрын
Better than her dad
@0114davis Жыл бұрын
My husband and I got married when I was 18 and he was 21. I was pregnant with our daugther. It made more sense for me to stay home. He joined the military when we found out we were pregnant with our second child. I worked part-time throughout at coffee shops and then doing tax preparation. My schedules were always supportive of my family. I went back to school to finish my BS when my youngest 2 were in high school. The youngest just graduated and I'm now halfway through a MS in Marriage and Family Therapy. I'm considering pursuing a PhD. You can have it all the feminist just got the order wrong. We've been married for almost 24 years and have successfully raised 3 winderful kids.
@purpose6113 Жыл бұрын
Thats an interesting perspective!
@heidiclayton8706 Жыл бұрын
True me too.i did my career later after 4 kids when I was mature and thought about what I wanted. The kids moved out and the career took off . One Job at a time . How it's supposed to be
@Coastpsych_fi99 Ай бұрын
Have you read any feminist literature by any chance? My issue as a feminist is that your labour isn’t valued economically and your life without feminist policies and laws is at the will of your husband.
@hydratejsn Ай бұрын
@@Coastpsych_fi99It looks like she worked part time after the kids grew up a bit, so she isn't economically destitute like most sahms, but otherwise yeah, I think she doesn't recognise to what extent her life is enabled by feminism. Sad to denounce something before checking how much you'd lose without it.
@sabastiabburger84 24 күн бұрын
@Coastpsych_fi99 yeah no. That's false. You might see it that way but it's not true.
@mariahcb9305 Жыл бұрын
Had my first daughter when I was almost 21. My mother was livid and didn't want me to have her, but I did. I finished college, got a good job, and married her dad. We have 2 girls now. It's crazy how much women are bashed on for having children in their 20s because for me, there was the expectation you finish college and focus on your career. Other expectation was to party and do what many other city dwelling 20 year Olds do. Motherhood is seen as a burden for young women.
@catherinepoteat Жыл бұрын
She's completely correct. I spent the last ten years going to school to persue a career, but now I'm done with college and I just want to have babies. What a weird time to be alive.
@jassminyoung2605 Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins it's not weird at all, but I think what she means is the dichotomy between doing what was expected of her versus now experiencing typical female biological urges even though she prepared for the career route. At least, that's what I took from it!
@Decemberdiosa077 Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins She never said it wasn’t :). I think She’s saying that once the educating is done, her biological duty is still existent and strong at that. Young women are made to believe getting educated and working is everything + fulfills us fully. However, it only fulfills a large part of our survival needs(money) but another big part of a woman’s needs is children…
@dwightk.schruteiii8454 Жыл бұрын
Weird time? No. Bad? Yes.
@dwightk.schruteiii8454 Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins Its neither feminine nor masculine. What a weird question to ask. Though, now that I think of it, the argument can be made that its actually more masculine since of the two, feminine and masculine, one has to be the bread winner, and it can’t be the feminine. Can a woman become educated and still conduct her roll? Of course. But being educated doesnt, and shouldn’t, mean a 10 year degree for these women. It could of simply been a 4 year (or less) classical liberal arts degree. Where she can educate herself to communicate effectively and think critically (the supposed aim of a classical liberal arts degree) the rest of her intellectual curiosities can be easily pursued on her free time. The rigidity of going down this assembly line of high school - college - career - marriage - kids - retirement makes you think something as absurd as whether education is either feminine or masculine.
@jassminyoung2605 Жыл бұрын
Great response! I agree
@purpleminer4595 Жыл бұрын
My boyfriend told me that he wanted to have children and take care of me while I was a stay at home mom and I didn't know at the time if I wanted to do that but this discussion has definitely helped me make up my mind. Thank you. I know it's semi rare to find a man like that that I know will be a good father and provider, especially knowing that he did not come from that kind of background but he wants better for his family.
@jayc342009 Жыл бұрын
You are lucky to have a man like that
@ekaterinab6064 Жыл бұрын
Think Before You Sleep discusses traditional relationships quite well if you wanted to see more discussions on the topic (from the male perspective in this case)
@gatanegra8815 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he just wants you to be dependent on him.
@TuffLuv1984 Жыл бұрын
If you’re not married that is a hugely risky move. You have no protection and no compensation if he decides to leave.
@purpleminer4595 Жыл бұрын
@Just Chill it’s not meaningless if you have a a higher purpose, in my case that’s Jesus, I’m going to raise my children to follow Him and be lights in a dark world. Also, I was raised that way so I already know what it’s like and you never get bored with children around.
@MysticalSpaceSandwich Жыл бұрын
I'm a guy and I'm really scared of binding myself to someone I love but isn't as serious as I am about it. I want a marriage for life. I think there is something uniquely beautiful about 2 people actually commiting to each other with their entire lifespans. I work hard. But if I constantly have to worry that the moment things become a bit uncomfortable she'll decide, "well my feelings aren't as strong as they once where, we have some problems, I guess I'm not happy anymore, we should divorce" it's worthless and a lot of modern people treat it exactly like that. A shallow promise that transcends nothing
@justingrinstead4315 Жыл бұрын
Till death to us part! I know I have avoided relationships since my divorce 20 years ago because commitments are typically not kept!
@jones2277 Жыл бұрын
one tip i would give you is not to 'play the field' because you'll be training yourself to be nonmonogamous. a lot of men think they just need to sow their wild oats and get it out of their system to marry, but all you do is train yourself to prefer variety over substance. i also think it's important for you to do the emotional work to maintain a strong relationship. women are more likely than men to view their marriage in regretful terms. this surprised me until i was with a group of women in their 50s, and all but one said they regretted marriage, and if they could do it again, they wouldn't. they just had a lot of built-up resentment because of the deferral of their dreams and ambitions for everyone else. you have to make sure that there's some balance in your marriage so those kinds of resentment don't build up. i should add that this was about 10 years ago and most of those women are still married, so just because two people stay married it doesn't mean that their marriage is a good one.
@DutchinBrazil Жыл бұрын
Strangely while together you still have to build you life for yourself (body, mental, financial) strange times inderd
@VIDS2013 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Is there is any chance that your spouse will just sudden opt out, it's definitely not worth the risk. Mainly for men.
@DutchinBrazil Жыл бұрын
Love her, just don't fall in love
@seangriffin1398 Жыл бұрын
The two incomes came FIRST!!! As women entered the workforce, the married couples competed for the housing, dramatically raising the house prices. Our house in the San Francisco area went from $30,00 to $178,000 in 3 years during the late 1970s. Followed by double digit inflation in the latter 1970s and early 1980s. This gets ignored in "politically correct" history.
@Kate-rv6kx Жыл бұрын
Nobody talks about this! For better or worse we need to acknowledge cause and effect.
@bubblepopper9979 23 күн бұрын
@@Kate-rv6kxwe are and have been talking about this and more, but public servants follow 🪙, not their people, as do media, corporations, and governments
@AFringedGentian Жыл бұрын
I just SCREAMED. I have been hoping and praying to see you two have a conversation. Louise Perry is so wise and smart and so influenced by your Dad. Best match up EVER.
@janicetribbiani7535 Жыл бұрын
No reason to scream. Excitement is warranted, screaming- not so much.
@AFringedGentian Жыл бұрын
@@janicetribbiani7535 bless your heart.
@KM-bn7dg Жыл бұрын
@@janicetribbiani7535 is today your first day on the internet, janice? 🤡👵
@flynnmorrow6945 Жыл бұрын
So much fun. I love seeing these realizations about our culture come about.
@tcrijwanachoudhury Жыл бұрын
Be honest Ruth, you didnt really scream, did you?
@222ableVelo Жыл бұрын
The sexual devolution is one of the worst things to happen to our culture in a long time. Absolutely devastating. We're seeing the consequences of it right now.
@allanbriggs807 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely disagree.
@Jay_Hendrix Жыл бұрын
Saw Louise on JP and man, what a top notch speaker honestly. She's so damn sharp and professional and her word choice is very efficient yet neutral. She isn't picking a fight with anyone, she's just spittin facts! It's like a good lecture!
@toniduval4350 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to see these two mothers bonding over the shared stress of constantly battling with the need to check if their infant is breathing. As a mother who went through this myself, it doesn’t bode well that our culture has taught us to ‘doubt our mental stability’ for checking on our young children’s welfare when our society should have told us ‘this is just what moms naturally do’.
@freedomevolution Жыл бұрын
The hardest thing I've had to deal with being a stay at home mom for the past 7 years has been the lack of social support. It's been really lonely. I've wanted to go back to work simply to be around other women.
@umiluv Жыл бұрын
Go to the playground! There a tons of moms there looking for other moms to be friends with. What’s great too is that you’ll find other moms that want to have play dates if your kids get along. And you’ve found other moms who care about their children socializing and playing. It’s a great place to go to meet other moms. Younger kids are usually there in the mornings and older kids are there in the afternoons.
@freedomevolution Жыл бұрын
@@umiluv I definitely do go to playgrounds!! I've just found that with 3 kids at different ages, with different sleep schedules and educational needs and activities, and the necessities of running a home, that it's actually really difficult to load everyone into the car, make it there, then make it back home in time to do naps and chores. I work with what I've got and do meet lots of people, but I've definitely longed for family or even a neighborhood where the neighbors are active in our lives and act like a community.
@jeyyrrrr1877 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@c.karnstein3299 Жыл бұрын
Only a few generations ago women would've been socialising while raising their kids every day. Conversations over the fence if there was even a fence, hanging out washing together, kids playing together on the doorstep. Community has eroded as populations has shot up and cultures have changed - fast.
@TimBitts649 Жыл бұрын
One smart policy that Louise should be pushing, is things to address your concerns of social isolation. Perhaps tax credits for mothers to organize themselves in local communities, online. Our cities are horribly designed for women. Lack of personal contact. I grew up on an old farm community, in a small town. The women helped each other all the time. Tons of women in the neighborhood had kids. It was magic.
@shannonbarry6520 Жыл бұрын
I'm 31 and grew up in Chicago. I moved to rural Texas three years ago. Here in rural United States, the culture of family DOES exist. I go to parties and events with three kids, two under 5 and one a my lap. Here, I am the one late to the mom game. Most of my mom friends around 31 already have 4 to 6 kids. That culture doesn't only exist in other countries; it just doesn't exist in cities.
@melancholycollie1466 Жыл бұрын
I've started to notice this too, that urban rural divide is real and lately I've realised, coming from a city to the country with 4 kids at 32, more people out in the country with 3 or more kids is more common. City people don't have many or any and seem to have that disconnect from nature and reality, tend to lean left because they don't understand how things outside the city work, like how food gets to their plate. Just daydreams.
@ethangroat8333 Жыл бұрын
Have your kids build up cities there, then! I've had enough of this anti-human culture in California. Facilitate investment and free trade as well as free speech and the importance of tolerance of all values, and boom, it'll be the richest and happiest place in all of the country. Progressive group think is destroying wealth over here and concentrating it into incompetent filmmakers and politicians. It won't be long now before out state is done for. Our population is already decreasing. Economic freedom is so important. That includes letting immigrants work by the way. Not paying them ludicrous government benefit structures, but letting them create value for everyone. That's liberty. That's the American Way.
@kpax4345 Жыл бұрын
The problem is not that women don't make enough babies in the western world (things are pretty balanced )... The problem is that our expectations on life are higher than the masses of uneducated people on third world countries where having more children is a tool for survival...... If a guy can't provide to his kids at least what he have received from his parents ... it's failure... and what we have received from our parents ...good food , shelter , university studies ...a young man (at least in South Europe where I live) is very unlikely.... On top on that there are a lot of people that don't like the life they are living ...so why they bring a baby in their world?? I totally agree with you...but your environment is the one that made you believe that having babies is a good things ... So we have to fix the context before we promote a baby boom agenda to people
@ethangroat8333 Жыл бұрын
@@kpax4345 Children create wealth when they enter the workforce, far more than they use up, if they are allowed to in a free society. It's economics. All those issues are not from too much population, but from too little freedom / too much government control as opposed to individual choice. Expectations don't align with what the government permits us to do as it literally steals our money through excessive taxes and market manipulation.
@CaitSith592 Жыл бұрын
@@kpax4345 except replacement rates is first world countries are horrendous, you are just ignorant of that fact, so it would benefit most people to have kids. its also natural to want to reproduce. This Anti-life mentality we have in the west is not helping anyone.
@michaelclifton2814 Жыл бұрын
As a 23 year old man preparing to marry a 24 year old woman, I really agree with SO many of the things that were said here, but when it comes to child-free weddings I believe that one important thing was not mentioned. While babies and young children who run around and make a certain amount of noise has always been a thing, I have a hard time believing that there has ever been a time in history with more poorly behaved, undisciplined, and spoiled children between the ages of 5 and 12 than there is now. You can allow children to run and play and make noise, that’s not a problem, but the level of bad behavior and attention-seeking disruptions that occurs is not okay. If people would actually parent their children and raise them to behave and be respectful from the beginning, then I believe there wouldn’t be nearly as many child-free weddings. But that’s just my personal opinion.
@greggrimer1428 Жыл бұрын
I am a father of 7. All well behaved. Apply love and discipline in equal measure. Give them plenty of love and discipline them early in their life Then they know your word is law. Never had to smack my children beyond the age of 4. Some were never smacked. Some were smacked half a dozen times aged 3 to 4. Don't negotiate. Lay down the law. But remember plenty of love and attention and games, reading books etc
@alexavasquez1992 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!!
@alexavasquez1992 Жыл бұрын
@@greggrimer1428 awesome advice! Thanks for sharing 😊
@greggeverman5578 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of 9 children, and while I consider us a wild bunch all of our growing years, we were never insufferable! We were disciplined and showed respect.
@ashleytuttle5471 2 ай бұрын
Great! more parenting advice from non-parents.
@TonyDavis69 25 күн бұрын
As a 53 year old non Conservative man, I really enjoyed this conversation. Cheers, Ladies. Bravo.
@smwoodsful Жыл бұрын
I cannot express how deeply this interview saddened me. I’m a mother of three grown children now. I had my first daughter at age 21 and Absolutely loved every moment of it. Unfortunately I had her out of wedlock . My married girlfriends were starting to have children also which was the norm. Although I had to go to work because I was single I still hung with my married friends. I was so grateful to have them as a group of women to confided in and support while we muddled through our first experiences with motherhood together. It was 1980 and having children without a husband definitely not not the norm and many repercussions came with that. I never regretted having my first born. 11 years later I married my husband and has my second child at age 32. The year was 1992 and I was blessed. My husband and I chose for me to leave the work to stay home with my son and later also my youngest daughter. It was like night and day. I I knew my oldest missed out and many things because I had to work and couldn’t be home with her even though she was cared for by family members in my absence. Attitude about having children and staying home with them rather than working in a career was clearly in place. I can’t tell you the number of young women who looked down on me for choosing my children over a job. I stand by my choices however, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the best decision I made was to make the sacrifices of material things to be at home wiith my children. All my children are adults now and often praise me for Choosing them over a career.
@heidiclayton8706 Жыл бұрын
The pressure definitely came.from.women and weak influenced men. "I wish I could " "What do you do all day" I used to answer.. "I make my own decisions what's best for my family I suggest you make the best decision for uours"
@quietpiehole Жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear the perspective of someone who has experienced both. Thanks for sharing. :)
@MultiMelcat Жыл бұрын
I had my first child right after I turned 20 and young motherhood was the greatest blessing in my life, although it was a struggle many times in the earlier years. I don’t regret it at all even though many of my peers are still childless. I am turning 40 this year and I still feel like I am able to relate to my teenagers, and my 20 year old daughter has become my best friend. Looking forward to my 40s and 50s with my husband so we can travel and do all the fun things everyone else around us did during all the years we were at home raising 6 kiddos. #makeyoungmomscoolagain ❤❤
@robertp5998 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME.
@rightcliquegod7653 Жыл бұрын
I think if we can take away one thing from this interview is how complicated humans are and how that nothing is absolute. Surely there are a lot of downsides, negatives, and pitfalls to young motherhood, especially just after 20. But glad things worked for ya, well done.
@alexandrataylor1768 Жыл бұрын
@@rightcliquegod7653 I had many of those complications of young motherhood. I still wouldn't have changed it for any other age. I was too young to know any different and found ways to make it work. I think if I had my children when I was older, I would not have been as flexible as I was then. I'm 55 now, and my son's are 35 and 31. They are good men. I am very lucky.
@alexandrataylor1768 Жыл бұрын
You will love your 40's and 50's with your husband and adult children! I'm 55 and my children are 35 and 31. While I am no longer married, I am relishing my life and my relationship with my grown sons. Getting married and having children young for me was a "win" and I'm from New York. In the late 1980's my friends were off to college and I was married and had my first son at 20. I still wouldn't change it. There was judgement,but I didn't really care. I was living my life. 🙏💕
@midmomom2490 Жыл бұрын
I am 58 and enjoying my grown children but they are a bit more spread out due to infertility issues on both sides. Ages…36,34,28,22
@proficiency7751 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely from a man’s point of view I am overjoyed to hear that conversations like this are taking place.
@ganganthefatman1382 Жыл бұрын
I've literally been mocked by women for being honest about wanting a committed relationship and building a family together. I've been contemptible at times but I can't help but laugh these days. I'm firm in what I want. I won't settle for any less. I have no doubt the more I continue enhancing myself in every level within and around me I will find a good woman for me. But fuck! It can be so disheartening at times. Watching other people laugh and hookup with each other. Even the situationships can leave me feeling a little envious. But I still have at time for myself at the age of 25. I won't let any wind move me wherever it pleases.
@mysticc6232 Жыл бұрын
I am a 25 year old woman and I am also the same, I always looked for a committed relationship rather than waste my time with low quality miserable people who hump each other for a living. There are many of us and things will change so I am stating positive
@defden7867 Жыл бұрын
Being firm in what you want is not necessarily the issue in finding love. Relationships often involve compromise and the ability to understand and adapt to each other's needs and desires. It can be frustrating if you have been mocked by women for being honest about your own desires. However, it's important to remember that everyone is different and has different preferences when it comes to relationships. It's okay to explore and have different experiences, and to learn more about yourself in the process. A good partner is someone who shares your values and beliefs, and who can support you through the ups and downs of a relationship. It's not necessary to follow a certain "correct" way of being a good partner, as everyone's needs and desires are different. It's okay for some people to enjoy hooking up and exploring different experiences, and to commit to a relationship when they feel ready for something more.
@leedlbagginshield8492 Жыл бұрын
wtf? never heard a woman complain about a man wanting a committed relationship. That is crazy.
@defden7867 Жыл бұрын
@@leedlbagginshield8492 yes it's a bit delusional, maybe they didn't want commitment with him.
@7armedman Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was your shitty personality.
@lqstar Жыл бұрын
I met my husband when I was 19, he was 24. When we first started dating I told him I wanted to be a stay at home mom. I would finish my degree, but I would be taking time off work to raise my children. He understood the importance stay at home mothers and thought it was a great idea. We got married when I was 24, he was 29. We worked on becoming debt free before our children. It took a while and we had to be disciplined, but we did it. At 29 and 34 we had our son. I had an easy pregnancy and was able to work up till he was born. Now our son is 3 and we have a 1 year old daughter. I’ve been a stay at home for 3 years and I’m so thankful for the time I get with my children. I have a small side business I run during nap times and at night. It’s mostly a hobby to keep me busy. We save the money or use it for vacations. We waited to have children until we know we could survive on one income and I stoped using birth control at 20 when I realized how terrible they are for women’s bodies. Younger sister is 28 and single. She bought into the feminist lies and is completely lost. She’ll never have children, doubt she’ll ever get married, and she lives a very unhappy life. To all the young ladies who might still be reading my rant, it’s okay to want to be a stay at home mother. It’s not beneath you want to be with you’re children. It makes you a good mom. You’re biologically designed to want to be with you children and no one will love and care for them as you will. It’s the most challenging and rewarding thing you’ll ever do.
@umiluv Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins - if you never want to grow up then that’s on you. It might be why you are depressed. Ignoring biological reality is not normal.
@sylviareece1513 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with everything you said. Women have bought into this and are now paying the price. Women are so unhappy these days it is so sad. Glad to see there are some realists out there. You can't go against mother nature. 😍
@navarrolazarus5252 Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins balance , yin Yang , a team in which people have different strengths and different roles but the same end goal. It’s not that complicated…
@benc7301 Жыл бұрын
@Jane B Robbins Jesus is the perfect companion with the perfect balance between empathy & mercy, and helping you be strong, healthy, and virtuous ... if that becomes your aim. Including being a good wife & mother. If we've produced a shitty society, with an unhealthy worldview ... definitely GO TRAD
@somethi3741 Жыл бұрын
I read stories like these and I gotta wonder where the hell these gals are. Were you raised in church, by any chance?
@titusax Жыл бұрын
I always smile when a baby cries in church, it is a reminder of new life, and always worthy to be celebrated!
@zollsm6386 Жыл бұрын
That is good. New Life strong family bonds. Opportunity to raise the child in a moralistic light. 👍🏾
@mariahcb9305 Жыл бұрын
I was once told that if you couldn't see or hear children in church then they (the church) must be doing something wrong.
@zollsm6386 Жыл бұрын
@@mariahcb9305 So if a baby is loud and the mother shows to the rear or back room of the church and you cannot see her child. That is an omen to you?
@mariahcb9305 Жыл бұрын
@Zoll SM no, if you cannot see a single young person or a child in church there is a problem. And I go to a church where we have mothers sitting all around the place, including myself because I also have young kids. Why would we be sitting in the back? And if mine or another's gets fussy we do tend to them and walk out until they calm down, but having kids in church is a blessing. And they are also bound to make noise because thats what babies and small children do, just saying.
@brucescott3718 Жыл бұрын
Gday, I am an old professional Infantry Australian Soldier almost 80 years old and I am learning a lot from you two ladies, thank thank thank YOU !
@pattesmith9160 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this conversation so much. As an older woman I am thankful to hear you both speaking of the joy and wonder of motherhood.
@sorryforlatmig7962 Жыл бұрын
It isn't even just elite or high status men expecting sex early on even before defining the relationship. Men of all backgrounds on dating apps expect sex before even agreeing to be exclusive to you. A week into talking to one man after going on 3 dates, he was pressuring me into sexting even after I told him I want to take things slow. He told me he was fine with going at my pace, but that was a lie
@prettyfirefly1011 Жыл бұрын
Some guys are like that. But there are some that are pretty nice too. It took me a while to meet my husband but it did happen eventually. We have been together for 5 years. It's doable. But it does take some extra searching.
@sorryforlatmig7962 Жыл бұрын
@@jester7038 hey, thats not my fault. Thats how I was taught to kiss. I don't have a whole lot of experience 😂
@sorryforlatmig7962 Жыл бұрын
@@jester7038 i just found it funny you replied with that because I ended up going tongue on the first kiss I had with that guy and he told me that was unexpected. Youre not the problem, I am. My first kiss was during a hook up because I have trouble finding men who wanna date me and i caved. So I didn't know thats not what youre supposed to do. It is strange the women you've went on dates with do that tho
@thegreataynrand7210 Жыл бұрын
You have to understand that men know that chads/Tyrones are smashing on the first or second dates with little effort and guys are like "why should I be doing all this waiting and effort when the other guys can get it for doing basically nothing". Most females nowadays just use guys for free meals and attention.
@sorryforlatmig7962 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreataynrand7210 I did tell this guy I hooked up before, but it was with a man I loved and knew for years. He didnt feel the same way so I was moving on. I guess guys will hear that, think im easy, and expect things to move fast. Fair enough. All i want is to finally be in a relationship, but all i get is men begging me for nudes and then they have a sudden change of heart once they get what they want
@leadershipisaphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Her book is the most pro-woman thing I have seen (and read) in the past 20 years. It is excellent. I highly recommend it.
@jorgechavez-salas5348 Жыл бұрын
Also read Marry him by Lori Gottlieb
@coffeewithmia7498 Жыл бұрын
Yes! She is correct! I’ve been watching this. My mother went to work in 1970. This created so much turmoil in our family. Yes. We had a better house and better clothes with 2 incomes. However, we children did not learn proper communication skills, self confidence, or emotional security. This interview is refreshing. Hoping the book title will be listed below. Thank you so much!!
@UrbanKizBeast Жыл бұрын
This women is amazing. Calm, balanced, thoughtful, feminine, articulate, smart. She's done so much research on this subject. She doesn't yell, scream or push down the agenda. She's sat down and thought about every aspect of this conversation. The bit about 'marriage being a good for women' makes total sense. To summaries... Women are more agreeable on average, more neurotic, men are more Sexual. Post Sexual revolution, women being encouraged to behave like men thanks to feminism. Only exception is high status men. Men are flexible with long term vs short term strategy. This CAD mode - men's promiscuity. Hyoergamy cluster towards high society men. 10% of men get 60% of likes on social media. High status, serially Monogamous. Digital Harems. They set the terms. This last line is absolutely spot on from my observations in Sydney over 30 years. Thank you for your efforts and output. God bless.
@nadia-bb5mn Жыл бұрын
My wedding only cost $4000. 20 children and 50 adults. I rented a country community hall that was used as a daycare during the week, so there were tones on toys. We put gym mats and toys in one corner, and everyone could watch the kids play during the reception. We had it early enough so parents could leave early and still have had a full evening. It was so easy and fun to accommodate the kids.
@grannyannie2948 Жыл бұрын
My husband and I were much more frugal. We drove to the church in my husbands car on a Saturday morning. We held the reception in a private room in a small pub. Being morning we had a champagne brunch rather than a formal sit down dinner. Which was quite child friendly. And cost about $400. I live in a small town in Australia. Our local Italian restaurant hires a lady to carry babies around the dining room so the mum can enjoy her meal. We also piloted an idea to stop mothers feeling isolated. It has a huge room for along with an outdoor space designed for babies and preschoolers. There is a nurse for mother's with serious concerns, but there are also mature women who are employed to carry babies and play with toddlers so mothers can relax and enjoy a cup of tea with other mums. It's been such a success the state government is building more of them. If communities are serious about promoting families and motherhood, I think this is a great idea.
@greggrimer1428 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Nothing wrong with that.
@gaetano98 Жыл бұрын
Women were thrown under the bus and lied to. She is correct. It was about lowering the cost of labor by forcing women into meaningless jobs. My wife told me from the start that she expected me to work for her so she could stay home and raise the kids. We have had hard times in the past but we stuck to what was best for our kids.
@jassminyoung2605 Жыл бұрын
I hope to have this some day! I keep praying to God that if He will it be, He will send me a man that can provide for me while I provide at home!!! There will be bumps of course but nothing that can't be worked through. thank you for sharing this. I feel that there's still hope.
@vklnew9824 Жыл бұрын
So they believed the sweet words of the 🐍 yet again?
@SugaryPhoenixxx Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. Follow the money....
@naturalLin Жыл бұрын
So do you guys homeschool?
@thepope9023 Жыл бұрын
that reality is non existent for the majority men and women now, the bed has been made gotta lay in it.
@robmccormick8155 Жыл бұрын
More of these conversations, please. Two women talking about being a women and the female experiece is exactly what this world needs right now.
@ewaoconnor7013 Жыл бұрын
One of the most refreshing and insightful podcasts I have heard in months. As a mother I needed to hear this and I wish I heard it sooner. Yes, women want to be there for their babies instead of going back to work after a few months (not to mention sooner)
@alexandrataylor1768 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing age related decline. Age extension does not equal quality of life. I would love to see this topic addressed. Many of my clients whom are in good health at 80+ who aren't on medications and have health issues are completely ignored by the medical model. They are also pressured to behave like a 40 to 60 year old by their families. How do you gague healthy natural aging (what is normal emotional and/or physical changes) and why do we treat aging as a disease that needs to be treated?
@doofymalamute5835 Жыл бұрын
It is sad to think that many adults have never spent time around children. I could definitely see that being a big contribution to the chronic depression of our society.
@ToyokaX Жыл бұрын
Indeed. The fact that many adults in this generation are even disgusted by children is frankly a tragedy and a testament to how cruel society can be to itself.
@skylinefever Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, other adults refuse to have children because they were aound children, and didn't see the advantage of having them. Urbanization and industrialization eliminated the need to have children for survival. Now children are either accidents or genuinely wanted and planned.
@DonJDawson Жыл бұрын
I haven't been around them much. We were looking at having some but with a surprise divorce I don't think I will have any at all. I don't really see the need or point.
@Gabster1990 Жыл бұрын
I don't hate kids but a lot of them are misbehaving little shits.
@justjane1639 Жыл бұрын
I spent lots of time around them when I was one. That was enough for me. :-D
@Andre299792458 Жыл бұрын
This woman is the ray of light in this woke darkness
@casdraws Жыл бұрын
The loss of status is painful. I felt so valued as a student in high school and in college. My skills and talents were recognized regularly with verbal praise and grades. Not so when I became a mother. The endless chores and lack of finished tasks/accomplishments was so hard. I also had a huge loss of identity as a mother. The loss of body autonomy was super hard too especially as a sexual abuse survivor. Intellectually I know motherhood is deeply valuable and being a present stay at home mother is something I wish I had had. Sometimes my feelings have other ideas. I’ll sort it out eventually.
@ModernLady Жыл бұрын
I can understand that. I decided to do both. I kept working, but not full-time. (Neither did their father btw. We both reduced our work hours) Balancing work an family is possible, but you can’t do both 100%. In two years I will go back to full time work because my children are getting older. And I’m not looking forward to it 😅 even though I love my job.
@georgeshomodi3498 Жыл бұрын
Let me reassure you: you most likely were praised and valued for being a young pretty woman. It’s the same with employees - when you see a girl struggling a bit, you praise her and help her, when you see a male not quite making it you just fire him lol
@casdraws Жыл бұрын
@@georgeshomodi3498 it’s nice that you assume I was a pretty teen. I was not. Braces, acne and frizzy hair meant zero suitors. I was praised for my academics and artistic skill not my looks. I admit I did not have a solid foundation of internal confidence or sense of worth. I think many people have a hard time when their identity is based on what they do/produce/achieve and then cannot do that thing. Isn’t that part of why it’s so crushing for men when they become unemployed? Or why it’s so hard for women when they become mothers and can no longer do the things that made them feel like themselves.
@georgeshomodi3498 Жыл бұрын
@@casdraws haha you’re right, that was just an assumption It is crushing for men to be unemployed, I suppose, because they understand that from that point on they are worthless. Like literally, I can swear on anything that nobody cares about you if you’re a man. I have quite a story, actually: if you’re a Ukrainian woman, you’re a welcomed refugee anywhere in the world. If you’re a Ukrainian man you’re locked up in your country, conscripted and got killed :3 But also, men generally don’t care if a woman has a high paying job or anything. So while a woman may suffer for a hit to her self-assessment, she will not be bullied out of social life / dating opportunities etc after losing her job (regardless of what was the reason, childbirth or something else)
@casdraws Жыл бұрын
@@georgeshomodi3498 yep. Men and women have different challenges or disadvantages.
@josephreusch Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mikhaila and Louise, this was an extremely eye opening episode, really important information. My wife and I want to have kids in the next few years (I am 29 she is 27) but we both work full time, she is the higher earner, and we can't imagine affording it now that we bought a townhouse. This has highlighted to me that Children should really be a priority and not an afterthought or something we hopefully get to later, at least for me. Always appreiate the different voices you host on your podcast. All the best to you and God bless!
@sportscarman5 Жыл бұрын
I'm 35 and my wife is 32. We've struggled for years to have children because we waited too long. Don't make that mistake. My wife is pregnant now, but it took alot of time and money. Don't put this on the back burner.
@josephreusch Жыл бұрын
@@vivienneb6199 that's the plan!
@josephreusch Жыл бұрын
@@vivienneb6199 it's just an economic reality might change in reality but we cannot get by on my income and we could possibly on hers if I supplement it with weekend jobs etc. Some people don't have the luxury to decide that. Definitley dont when you live in Vancouver, BC Canada where townhouses are selling for near $1M and gas prices are over $2/Liter ($7 or $8/gallon basically) everything is on the brink of being unaffordable on two decent incomes.
@umiluv Жыл бұрын
Don’t wait until too late. I got lucky and had a child at 35/36 without complications. I had to beg my husband to have kids because he didn’t want any. Now he’s finally realized how awesome kids are and we are in our early 40s. I’m sad it took him so long to figure out that it’s cool to have more than one lol. He has the ability to keep having kids but I don’t have that luxury. God willing, we can have another.
@umiluv Жыл бұрын
@@josephreusch - it’s a good idea to move honestly. Your family should be the priority in your life. We stayed in Los Angeles because our parents were there but my mother in law ended up disowning us for political differences anyway so we left. We’re much happier not having to rent and having a nice big plot of land and a bigger home for $1k less than we were paying. I get to stay at home and raise our son, have a garden, etc. Even though my husband took a pay cut we moved to a state that has no state income tax so he actually brings home the same amount as he did in Los Angeles. Don’t stay for friends and family like we tried to. You should prioritize your own family and well-being. My mom is thinking about moving out to where we are now because LA is becoming so wild. Be the change you want to see in your life. Maybe the ppl will follow you.
@jpegjake Жыл бұрын
Monotone voice makes people sound smarter as well. I love how much thought and care was taken in the discussion, and it felt totally natural and unscripted!
@Porrtocala Жыл бұрын
I believe everyone should watch this discussion, and just be aware. I don't even care who agrees or disagrees, rejoices or mourns about the present social developments and standards. Just be aware of these realities.
@TheSeeking2know Жыл бұрын
One of your best interviews ever in my opinion. Louise is a blast to listen to and she's so good at articulating her points and building a picture across historical and current events.
@thephoenixempyre2300 Жыл бұрын
Humanity will right itself, we always have. So happy I found this conversation, it was really eye-opening
@liveinms9949 Жыл бұрын
Im 50 years old. Mmy mother is 71 . She has a masters degree in chemistry. She was a workaholic and will happily tel you that she ony got married and had children because that was what society demanded in her day. I had the only mother that worked when I was in elementary school. I resented greatly that she worked.. I got married as a teenager and raised 4 children. Its interesting how childhood experiences affect your life
@howardbabcom Жыл бұрын
The discussion on differences and the need to factor these in to medical treatment is fascinating. If we feel it necessary to take into account something as obvious as height in this, then its blindingly obvious that there are so many other factors we cannot ignore. Great discussion.
@flynnmorrow6945 Жыл бұрын
I'm so proud to be a stay at home mom, pregnant with #4. My husband and I started very poor, but we are both dedicated to being a one-income household. It means we will have to move to a less than desirable state to afford a house, but we had to prioritize our needs: our family culture, homeschooling, a home to raise the kids in.
@wyleecoyotee4252 Жыл бұрын
If you had less children you would be able to afford more. Has this ever occurred to you?
@flynnmorrow6945 Жыл бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 that's assuming that I want more stuff rather than a family.
@wyleecoyotee4252 Жыл бұрын
@@flynnmorrow6945 You can provide better quality for less individuals than spreading everything out thin. Do you want your kids to be successful and get higher education or would you rather the girls be only qualified to be just a housewife?
@flynnmorrow6945 Жыл бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 higher education is not the only way to get a lot of money. In fact, it's a barrier in many cases to actual intelligence. And there's nothing wrong with preparing young women to be mothers. 🙂
@flynnmorrow6945 Жыл бұрын
@@sw3783 Do you homeschool? It's one of my favorite things, and I was so daunted by it in the beginning. It's put my fancy private school education to the test (turns out my knowledge of history was seriously lacking) and has made me much more disciplined. I end up enjoying time with my kids a lot more, too. Highly recommend!
@gmrogersxo Жыл бұрын
Love what she says about becoming a mother & how it changes your whole perspective. It really helps me understand how some woman i know can be supporting such apposing lifestyles for the upcoming generations. "Mothers cannot be autonomous" thank you ladies!
@carolinaarrillaga3721 Жыл бұрын
Mothers many times need to be autonomous, specially if they become widows or divorced . Too many women from the generation that suffered the world wars or any other war did not had the privilege of having their husbands return alive and had no other option that becoming autonomous.
@gmrogersxo Жыл бұрын
@@carolinaarrillaga3721 thank you for widening my perspective!
@Abby-Brock Жыл бұрын
I love that you said traditional motherhood and fatherhood needs to be made cool again. YES! YES! 🙌
@wyleecoyotee4252 Жыл бұрын
It's not cool
@cm975 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy, I found myself agreeing with so much of this discussion. I work from home a lot (remotely on a computer) and my neighbor once said “oh are you a stay at home wife? We’re looking for someone to drop off and pickup our kids from school, could you do it?”. This person was not previously my friend so it was odd and offensive. Also, this woman is a reservist and does not work full time - so I actually am busier than she is! I think to summarize, women in society need to not judge each other’s lifestyles. Everyone should do what they want and not let society (ultimately women) pressure them into something else.
@effygram8159 Жыл бұрын
Louise Perry is such a force for good imo. A long overdue antidote to the damage done to male and female sexual dynamics.
@effygram8159 Жыл бұрын
@@mewk4261 I don’t agree that she is. I think she’s first helping women to ‘wake up’ from the feminist induced lie we’ve been raised on. After that it’s up to both woman and men to recognize how we’ve both been affected by toxic social engineering. Men have been target in different ways.
@vklnew9824 Жыл бұрын
Too goddam late to reverse this hell that your sex has endorsed.
@shakirghazali2890 Жыл бұрын
@@effygram8159 you know how to avoid that question well
@purpose6113 Жыл бұрын
@@mewk4261 not at all
@the2ndcoming135 Жыл бұрын
@@mewk4261 “why does everything gotta be about men?”😩
@dreamweaber9876 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent conversation. As a 25 year old childless woman, I'm starting to feel the pain & grief of the requirement for 2 incomes just to survive. I don't want my future children raised by day care & school, but I struggle to see the alternatives. It's saddening.
@dacebambite6444 Жыл бұрын
Stay strong ! Keep Your eyes on the prize. I wish You the best of luck in getting the kind of family and life that You truly desire !
@cassie1264 Жыл бұрын
There ARE alternatives, but you have to make compromises or be creative to make it work. For starters, if you don't want to have the same "requirements" as everyone else, stop living like everyone else! Live simply and save your money. Start a side hustle you can do from home when you do have children. Move to an area with reasonable wages and home prices. It's become more difficult to live comfortably with only 1 income, but if it's what you truly want it can be done.
@dreamweaber9876 Жыл бұрын
@@cassie1264 You are right, there are compromises to be made - but both parties have to be okay with those compromises. Moving to a place with lower COL also means less work. Here in Canada, cost of living is virtually the same everywhere.
@sorryforlatmig7962 Жыл бұрын
Im almost 25 and in the same boat as you
@chriswest7639 Жыл бұрын
There is always a way. Lowering your standard of living is one.
@Mobilise1886 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Louise Perry. Fantastic in articulating the truth of our times.
@markhenryramsey9132 Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing more attractive than a lady who will put up with zero nonsense and expects the same of you. I am both bewildered and frankly applied at the ‘games’ people are supposed to ‘play’. Making love isn’t a game, and sexual intercourse isn’t the same as love making. If it were, you’d stop looking as you’d have found your mate.
@Wingedmagician Жыл бұрын
She’s got a wonderful voice wow. Hope she narrates her own books.
@Wingedmagician Жыл бұрын
@@vivienneb6199 well if it works it works 🤷♂️
@batman5224 Жыл бұрын
When people ask me if I support feminism, I say it depends on what is meant by it. If you mean women should have the same career opportunities as men, of course I support that. If you mean that all women don’t have to be housewives, I support that, but if you mean that women should be able to murder their children and completely ignore the struggles of men, I am not in support of that. If you mean that there aren’t any differences between men and women, I will respectfully disagree. Nowadays, the word feminism has a lot of baggage.
@LordRykard9376 Жыл бұрын
Feminism like all -isms is a conceptual framework to interpret the world, phenomena, behavior, etc. Its a tent to gather like-minds underneath. From its onset, it's been filled with whackos and austere interpretations. It's the mother (pardon the pun) of all identity politics including insidious concepts like intersectionality. I think its time people move past calling themselves -ists and realize these things are simply mental tools.
@ouwebrood497 Жыл бұрын
I support freedom. If feminism means freedom for women to make choices, to be a housewive or a sex worker (or both or neither) I support feminism. If feminism means wanting more public toilets and a workspace without porn calendars, I supprot that. On the other hand, if feminism means hating and blaming men for everything and shit testing society with crap lake de gender pay gap, pink tax and what have you, I don't support feminism.
@FukkenGoogel Жыл бұрын
I'm using NASA's radar dish to find who asked bro
@dakotamabry1645 Жыл бұрын
Abortion isn't murder it's health care , that is propaganda that was never based on science to get midwives out of business so men can profit off woman giving birth that was put into place by lobbyist .. it was quite common for woman to do their own Abortions and not frowned apon .. most other countries like Ireland just fought to get abortion access because woman were litteraly dying and criminalised from it being illegal .. and I mean miscarriages are criminalized. In the u.s they are doing the same thing woman are going to die needlessly , sphycological impact will get worse , woman are going to jail and theirs more woman that will be driven into poverty. Because the same party that prevents me from having an abortion doesn't support universal affordable health care , paid paternity leave , more financial assistance and shut down any clinics that provide birth control access and sexual education access to teenagers. They don't care about those babies once their born .. and it's far more expensive for making abortions illegal then providing all those programs and making abortions legal .. because woman pay for their own Abortions due to being economically unable to take care of children and point blame at fathers as well because it's men that coerces woman to get one and woman who can't afford to care for one feel they should . 1 in 4 woman go homeless due to a pregnancy.. that's a problem
@renatojohnsson5548 Жыл бұрын
not that many years ago I was at an academic conference and confided to a professor i cannot sign up to contemporary feminism. He essentially said to me "Don't worry, remember, there are feminisms" (stressing the plural). That made me feel so much better.
@jjtimmins1203 Жыл бұрын
My wife is highly educated and an incrediblly conscientious and intelligent woman. If she wasn't a homemaker she'd be running a college. But we have managed to live on my income, which has much less potential then hers, while she homeschools and runs an educational coop for homeschoolers. The non-monetary value of her unpaid labor is immense. The financial savings of her ability to run home economics has enabled our lifestyle. Unfortunately our society completely discounts the work and talents of incredible women like my wife. This arrangement has given us immense family time and greatly contributed to our collective quality of life.
@amc3964 4 күн бұрын
Louise Perry is amazing! Breath of fresh air. Truth teller. 🙏
@AnestheticsForAna Жыл бұрын
I thought only Catholics were speaking about the terrible effects of the pill on women and society. I’m happy to hear someone from a secular perspective recognize this and publicize it finally
@Ash-gj2lf Жыл бұрын
I’m not against birth control, but I am against hook up culture and I’m against the casual use of birth control.
@wyleecoyotee4252 Жыл бұрын
What you people don't acknowledge that these women using birth control are being responsible. Get off your pedestals ladies.
@ouwebrood497 Жыл бұрын
Its very sad that the pill, presented as the symbol of feminism, is actually repressing women on so many levels. First of all it's big pharma enriching itself with a product that is not as good as it is presented. Secondly women suffer side effects (among which lower libido, how cynical is that). Thirdly, it results to social pressure from men to refuse to use condoms with associated risks for STDs. The supposed freedom of the pill in most cases is the social obligance for women to eat these chemicals for a few decades.
@wyleecoyotee4252 Жыл бұрын
@@ouwebrood497 Women are fine with the pill. It prevents pregnancy. Get over it
@AnestheticsForAna Жыл бұрын
@@wyleecoyotee4252 and what you don’t understand is that SO MANY WOMEN experience terrible side effects from birth control even with “responsible” use and yet those side effects are totally downplayed by popular culture. birth control has become a catch-all for any presumably hormonal issues. There are better, more lasting and healthier ways to shift your hormones and yet birth control is always what women first go to. It’s not about being on a high horse, every women has deeply personal experiences related to their fertility and hormones and so we try to help other women based on those experiences. And that’s why it’s important for every women to always share their experiences and conclusions whether it’s popular or not so that we can hear other perspectives. Im not going to let anyone make me deny my own experiences or those of my friends and family just because you think I’m on a high horse. Just listen to others, you don’t have to shut me or anyone else down just because you don’t agree.
@jeffweatherby5279 Жыл бұрын
"Only women can get pregnant?! TERF! TERF!" This dialogue is fantastic I love these women ❤️
@Show-Time-24-7 Жыл бұрын
Who sings that song many years ago only Women Bleed 🩸? I forget who the artist is but we need it back on the radio stations to let the Transgender men know they can’t get Pregnant 🫃🏽 or bleed 🩸 every month. What is our Government’s letting these companies make crazy pills 💊 changing kids brain cells to the unknown. They Future or next generation is going to truly destroy this World. Elon Musk needs to hurry up building these Robot humans and hurry to get life on Mar’s because the Earth 🌍 or Aliens on this Earth will destroy it. 💩🫃🏽😷🩸⚠️🙏🪦⚰️Crazy World or crazy people in this World 🌎
@Show-Time-24-7 Жыл бұрын
Who sings that song many years ago only Women Bleed 🩸? I forget who the artist is but we need it back on the radio stations to let the Transgender men know they can’t get Pregnant 🫃🏽 or bleed 🩸 every month. What is our Government’s letting these companies make crazy pills 💊 changing kids brain cells to the unknown. They Future or next generation is going to truly destroy this World. Elon Musk needs to hurry up building these Robot humans and hurry to get life on Mar’s because th
@funkyshade Жыл бұрын
Just as a note from a man's perspective and opinion on dating apps: Installing a dating app and regarding your chances as "good", only to find out you barely get any likes and you don't belong to that upper 10%, creates a dent in your self confidence. There are times when I wonder if I should even bother again with dating, because women more than ever have access to ways to find the most "high status" man that they can find. I could be wrong, but I feel like women have the easy side of the story, because they're usually the minority on dating apps so they can choose. On top of that, men are usually fine with dating below or at the same social status as themselves, whilst women are not, so when a man gets a chance with a high status woman, of course they're going for it. From my perspective as a man, I feel immense pressure to always perform better, dress better, get a better job, work out more, be more confident, be more manly (and at the same time more sensitive). I do all of these things, and work on myself constantly, but it kind of sucks to constantly feel like no matter what, my efforts aren't enough. It's like trying to fit a mold that keeps getting more and more "perfect". I wouldn't be surprised if this is the primary reason for self-growth channels (and Red Pill channels) being so popular, because if it's always the man that needs to do better, then that means there's always a "chance". A large percentage of men, including myself, want connection, love, validation, and partnership just as much as women do, but more than ever, it feels impossible. It feels like you're never enough.
@ChrisAnneAmoy Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I find it very hard to say no in circumstances as well which is why I really try to choose wisely before putting myself into certain situations. I dread the confrontation that I believe would come from me stating my boundaries and saying no so it would in theory be easy for me to be almost bullied into agreeing to something I’m not comfortable with
@SundayCovers69 Жыл бұрын
I heard Louise Perry talking to men before so it's so good to hear her talking to a woman and fellow mother. I felt very emotional hearing things I have been thinking and felt like there was no one who agreed with me before now. I started questioning a lot when I became a mother almost 13 years ago so it's been lonely.
@kellyemontana62 Жыл бұрын
I'm 49 and I just got married. I am so happy I never had kids. Even as a little, little girl I knew. It wasn't intentional but it worked out so well. I would have had a kid or kids if I got married younger but that was never my desire. My partner is the same. Being single was amazing, not for the hook ups because that does suck, but being alone was phenomenal. I did so many things, had so many adventures hiking, creating, traveling, etc. I love my husband but I regret nothing. I don't want to "attract a mate." I didn't even try to attract my husband; I was just working when we met. I love most of your dad's work Mikhaila but wow do we differ on this.
@johnatchason6506 Жыл бұрын
Same, I have zero desire to have kids. Just got a vasectomy last year at age 40. I'm all for "other people" having kids and raising them in stable, healthy (hopefully 2-parent) households, but I don't need that to give my life meaning and purpose.
@ronin4160 Жыл бұрын
Your attitude seems to say mikhaila or her guest are the oddballs and not you. The fact that you think your situation shouldn't be the less than 1% of women is the issue here. Normalizing your choices is horrible for the VAST majority of women, and men. Glad you had a good time but don't encourage young women who don't already feel like you do to go down that route, ESPECIALLY in today's world.
@lstroud5529 Жыл бұрын
They have an agenda. For some reason they want to go back to the 1950's. Being a parent is misery. People who are parents that try to convince you to have them want you to be miserable just like they are. Misery loves company. You are lucky you never had them. I wish I never did.
@johnatchason6506 Жыл бұрын
@@lstroud5529 🎯
@m.2891 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same. Not everyone is meant for parenthood.
@Val-uj3nr Жыл бұрын
These conversations are a luxury, many are working for nothing just trying to pay rent and put food on the table.
@relativisticvel Жыл бұрын
Yet, the poor are more likely to be SAHMs.
@daniscarantino Жыл бұрын
I found this podcast to be extremely relatable as a young woman in the dating scene... especially the agreeableness part.
@willister8009 Жыл бұрын
As a male I loved this interview very informative I learned a lot very good questions were asked... Love the guest speak so nice love the voice thank you great interview
@timsjostrand9795 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, very good interview!
@schahrzadmorgan Жыл бұрын
So glad you had Louise Perry on. Her book is gold. Co sleeping is the way to go! When my kids were little in the 90s it was called the Family Bed. My ex husband is a fabulous father but he didn't really get into any of the kids until around age 2 while I listened to the breathing.
@elizabethroberts8270 Жыл бұрын
I can relate to your experience. My husband was always fascinated by our babies but couldn't really figure out how to socially interact and understand them until they were around 2 years old, and then increasingly more as they grow.
@schahrzadmorgan Жыл бұрын
Yes! I used to feel so hurt, like, "don't you love our baby", with each one, but once they turned 2 he was all in, and I now realize that's just natural.for fathers to not be all gaga over babies.
@gigglegrl7405 Жыл бұрын
What a great conversation. Thank you both.
@saeid840 Жыл бұрын
Amazing conversation, amazing guest with brilliant ideas. It changed a lot of my views. I was thinking for some time that something is not right with this liberal values regarding marriage and sexuality, now after watching this it made me understood how important the family values are and why it has been in this way through human history! Thank you for this amazing talk!
@Fcacamposs Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this episode!!!! I was feeling kinda lonely about my way of living motherhood and listening you, just gave me the best experience of my -still warm- tea tonight. Thanks a lot !! To both of you ❣️✨
@KlickSipYT Жыл бұрын
Wow, I so appreciated this video. It is just so full of practical wisdom, and it validated my own personal experiences as well. As someone who got married at 19 and had four kids by age 26, everything that you said about social acceptance of young motherhood (especially as a stay at home mom) is just spot on. It’s sad and honestly makes me tear up, but at least I know that this isn’t all in my head. It’s not all my fault that it has been impossible to make friends as a young mom. Thank you 💕
@cattan4696 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully now they've grown a little you have been able to have some friends
@KlickSipYT Жыл бұрын
@@cattan4696 My youngest is only 2 now, but I am hopeful that it will get easier as they age!
@andrewjennings7306 Жыл бұрын
Damn did people not call you crazy?
@akavierocultado6413 Жыл бұрын
Mikhaila, your right that soft British voice is amazing! I could listen to her for days! I also appreciate her perspective on things. She almost makes feminism sound sane. And to hear you guys talk about motherhood was just beautiful. Even as a man I really appreciated that. So thank you!
@douglasproctor418 4 ай бұрын
I lived as a family man with children and a working career wife for 25 years. I can tell you this about the economics: two incomes become 1.5 incomes dye to child care, and 1.5 incomes easily becomes 0.9 incomes .... because expenses rise fast as "opportunities" are greater with the 2 incime fiction and we "deserve" more expensive stuff because we work so much .... The pressure to earn more rises as the expensive and stressful lifestyle rises. Life becomes faster, not easier. My colleagues agreed how it didn't make sense, but that's how the social pressures work. And not just from the woman. The house is sold for a bigger one with a bigger mortgage. The replacement car is now new and an ego brand. Furniture from a discount store is replaced by high end furniture. Even restaurants upgrade. But no upgrade in LIFE happens. I watched lower income families going camping instead of going to All Inclusives in Mexico, and I saw more family happiness and peace in the camping families. Two career families have the same principal problem as getting more and more money from working more: the tradeoff is relationships.
@Luluandsoso Жыл бұрын
What a breathe of fresh air. Also I started bawling for some reason when you spoke about Serbia because I yearn for something like that so bad. I get nervous just leaving my house with my baby from the disapproving looks i get from older women (im a 26 year old stay at home mom).
@WhizzingFish12 Жыл бұрын
To heck with them. You are doing it right and shouldn't ever be embarrassed by that. You are prioritizing your family and should be PROUD of yourself for doing so. Keep it up and find others like yourself for support- we are out there! Blessings on you.
@umiluv Жыл бұрын
What the heck?! 26 is a good age to have kids. I wish I had started sooner. I don’t know where you are but a) ignore those ppl or b) move lol. It’s funny because in Los Angeles it’s the dream for women to not have to work and raise their kids at home. You’re considered super wealthy because your husband can afford to take care of the family without the wife having to work. I have no idea why ppl look down on that. The Boomers are a bit weird like that. My mom and mother in law both told me to go back to work so we could have more money but a) I didn’t want a stranger to raise my child and b) all the money I earned would have gone to taxes, daycare, maid service, and ordering food so what would be the point? People think they know better but you can save a LOT of money supporting your husband at home by extending the money he brings in. Plus, you get to know the neighbors and create a community around you and that does not happen when the wife also works. I know because we’ve done both - I worked before we had kids.
@JeffCaplan313 Жыл бұрын
ignore those old hags...they're THE WORST
@shasmeen Жыл бұрын
❤❤
@shasmeen Жыл бұрын
It’s defensiveness from older women in so much pain because of so many abortions and working so hard to get ahead or survive.
@masteringfibromyalgia Жыл бұрын
My daughter wasn’t trying to wait to get married, she just didn’t find a decent young man who would commit to be good to her. She had very disappointing relationships, some causing trauma.
@BattleBladeWarrior 24 күн бұрын
Yea, generally young women need to look for older men, it seems. especially in the west. So much of todays culture is about sex and partying that a lot of young men simply have no understanding of, or interest in commitment and settling down.
@chrisherne6454 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview. Perry is excellent, on top of her game and I wish her every success.
@angelicaantoniou8290 Жыл бұрын
This was such a nice conversation! Thank youu for all the love and support ❤
@Godrules Жыл бұрын
10:08 - another factor is the fact that they "sold" the idea of women in the work place exactly when they took the dollar off the gold standard, which allowed those over the banks to print money in the background and steal value from workers.. There is a very interesting article called "WΤF happened in 1971" which shows how people today actually get paid less than half the value of their work, via the dollar losing value in the background. So in reality, the woman entered the workplace and now two people have to now work in the home to pay for the Fed printing money in the background and syphoning it off to their friends and business partners, essentially taking what you earned. All of it was created as a scam to give more freedom to women, while also stealing the wealth generated from the added labor (and also more people to tax as well).
@JosefJochemPodcast Жыл бұрын
One word. Bitcoin.
@MariaM-tf8os Жыл бұрын
I loved this conversation. I really wish I had known this in my teens and twenties, but better late than never…
@mynewname6806 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for discussing this and please continue to get these discussions out there. ❤
@biancahelberg2890 Жыл бұрын
I am from South Africa and we have TONS of restaurants and "eat and play spots" all over the country. Some are better than others but it isn't difficult at all finding a spot like this when you need it. Very common and so appreciated as a parent of 2. These places usually cater for kids from toddler age to pre-teens.
@katherineduggan4102 Жыл бұрын
American stay at home mom living in Serbia here, thank you for reminding me why i want my son to grow up here! It's so true, American society almost forces parenthood to be difficult and lonely
@Butterflieslove2 Жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻 bravo
@danepaulstewart8464 Жыл бұрын
As a man, it has felt incredibly IMPORTANT learning about what women REALLY want and what they really thrive on. Much of this was really not available, or it was drowned out during the 80’s and the 90’s when I was in the dating years. I think more information like this will really help create a population of men who will be better equipped to help their women partners really find fulfillment and meaning, and ultimately happiness. 😃👍👍
@Thegraylady Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. There is so much nonsense out there, and it baffles me that women go along with stuff that is neither enjoyable for them in the moment, nor helpful long term (for them personally and for the human race in general).
@jenaya_laila2442 Жыл бұрын
I've always viewed the "feminism" movement as misguided. I used to be scolded for my view on this subject. It always seemed more like women wanting to be like men! How can that be feminism? We are our own species. And yes, I agree, there are biological differences between men and women that just need to be accepted by humanity. Therefore, woman have different needs, wants and abilities. These should be looked at and nurtured. That would be real feminism.
@samknezevic4222 Жыл бұрын
Two intelligent, insightful, and beautiful women explaining everything that is wrong with the values of so-called "progressive" culture. I hope more young people will come to share these views.
@khalidsafir Жыл бұрын
So many brilliantly articulated points, non stop - so much good stuff! Needed so much to balance the confusion propaganda. Thank you both for this.
@Refiningforge Жыл бұрын
You’re awesome
@jesusistheanswer2074 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, it's so nice to see a rational approach to such ideals. God bless you and yours
@Maurinusa Жыл бұрын
Louise is a real gem. Good job having her on
@k.k.shertzer9502 Жыл бұрын
Pop culture, in particular Madonna, very much distorted feminism and pressured girls to have a casual attitude like gay men, which began in the 1980's. She began the pop culture pressure. Prior to that, it was more about freedom and equal pay.
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