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Milan to Tirano with Trenord! Europe's most scenic railway journey?
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Күн бұрынA trip aboard a loco hauled Trenord train from Milan to Tirano, a journey which I think could be one of Europe's most scenic!
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Date of Travel: 4 August 2020
Class of Travel: 2nd Class
Rolling Stock: Bombardier E.464/ MDVC (Medie Distanze Vestiboli Central)
Cost of Ticket: €11.50 (£10.40, $13.50)*
Origin: Milano Centrale, Milan, Italy
Destination: Tirano, Italy
*Currency conversions correct as of 16/10/2020 to nearest £/$0.05
@johnstanton2271 3 жыл бұрын
Two years ago I did a "bucket list" train trip through the Swiss Alps. I flew into Milan then took the train to Tirano on Trenord to transfer to the RHB train. Being a regional train, I wasn't expecting much. Although the weather was overcast the views were fantastic. It was the best US $12.00 I ever spent. Watching this video brought back great memories.
@mmoonttii 3 жыл бұрын
In Italy I “bagni dei treni” (trains’ bathrooms) are considered to be one of the worst place to go , it is better to hold your needs. The only place worse than them are “bagni della stazione”(stations’ bathrooms) 😂
@samu10k91 3 жыл бұрын
I've peeed and pooped in Trenord bathrooms and I am still alive 😁
@brugnadeiro 3 жыл бұрын
@@samu10k91 when I worked in Lecco every morning I pooped in trenord bathrooms :D
@MrRealgar 3 жыл бұрын
Da quanto non viaggi su un treno?
@giulipio5411 3 жыл бұрын
fanno cagare è vero ahaha
@frank3770 3 жыл бұрын
Naaaah back in the 80s and 90s maybe, nowaday the situation is waaay better
@jjsmallpiece9234 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Dylan. Makes me want to go and do more Euro train travel, once Covid is sorted out.
@andysedgley 3 жыл бұрын
In the meantime, we can thank Dylan for showing us around 👋
@thetoekster6728 3 жыл бұрын
Im stsying in the netherlands which has an very good rail network. 140kmh on main line and max 300 on HSL is not that funny though
@anitawaghmare1773 3 жыл бұрын
yes for me also
@darrenblois8495 3 жыл бұрын
I did this trip in reverse, having come over from Chur, Switzerland on the Bernina Express. Although the Bernina Express is a MUCH more scenic route, the Tirano-Milano line probably gets the best-scenery-per-euro award. Lago Como is stunning.
@LuigiRosa 3 жыл бұрын
I live 30 km south of Milan and from time to time I go to Bormio to visit friends. I took that train a few times because I often go there by car. Thank you for pointing out the beauty of that journey; living in Lombardy we often take for granted some landscapes.
@stevesteffen7001 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved the ride by Lake Como, stunning scenery. I would love to be able to take several months off and just travel around Europe on trains, drink beer, and eat local food.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Beer is always a highlight 😅
@bwolper 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time that I was so taken in by the beauty of the scenery, that I actually misses some of your captions. Bravo!
@kimberlygila3604 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment of spectacular scenery of Italian scenery Milan train station was great and people had their tempature checked. Price was good.
@vaughnwilliams1208 3 жыл бұрын
That train also passes through Monza , home of the famous racing circuit .
@marcogarbin2977 3 жыл бұрын
Very near to me
@dex_drk833 3 жыл бұрын
E464 is our regional Workhorse, i like it even though a lot of Italian train drivers and railfans say is estethically ugly and they call it “lavatrice” (washingmachine 😂). I can say the line is pretty awsome, but the Bernina railway is even more gorgeous, breath-taking scenery through the alps, i highly recommend it. And thanks for another great video, superproud as an Italian to see people enjoying our scenery and trains 👊🏻
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Filippo.E464 2 жыл бұрын
la e464 è la migliore
@simonpilk Жыл бұрын
I have done the journey between Milano Central and Tirano in each direction a couple of times. The journey in the EMU is quite horrible in my view as you cannot effectively take any photographs of the incredible scenery en route and also if you are stuck in a busier 5-car set you cannot cross to the other set. The 464 and it’s coaches are far better for this journey and I would think FS should maybe keep a few sets of coaches for this route as it is by the Lake and great scenery for a good part of its journey.
@kidlawyernj8547 3 жыл бұрын
We did the Swiss double play a couple of years ago! Went from Zermatt to Chur on the Glacier Express, stayed in Chur overnight, then took the Bernina Express to Tirano, then this train to Milan. Your video was excellent. It brought back some wonderful memories, so much so that we are now planning to repeat our prior trip in Fall of 2022! Thank you for a quality video. I look forward to following your other videos. Peace.
@tapashkumarbhattacharjee2150 3 жыл бұрын
enjoyed an excellent video . thanking you and waiting for the next .
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😁
@colanitower 3 жыл бұрын
6:34 Leave it to the Italians to turn a simple pole into a design feature 😊
@extremathule982 2 жыл бұрын
😊😊
@ronb2486 3 жыл бұрын
Wow..you aren't kidding. Beautiful scenery!
@FromtheWindowSeat 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a wonderful route. When I did it, I got off at the pretty town of Varenna on Lake Como for a one-night stay and it was magical. 😍
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, sounds nice!
@a.k.6878 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I've travelled from Milano centrale to Paris gare de Lyon million times! Never been to Tirano though. Thank you! Your video makes me dreaming like I'm there
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Ah the journey from Milan to Paris is amazing isn't it!
@gbtraintripreports2147 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! If you go on next time, sit near the front, as I did, and the driver let me in for a cab ride from Lecco to Tirano!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Bet that was amazing!
@arkapadia 3 жыл бұрын
Superb ! It can be one of your best videos. Guess the st Moritz express coming up!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Maybe next year.
@langtonroad2445 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Bernina Express over to Chur in Switzerland that is fantastic
@damianc.0.681 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I line that one. Either that or the arosa line
@kepc9083 3 жыл бұрын
Spectacular views indeed. My favorite part of Italy! The train might benefit from cleaning but overall was adequate for the trip. And that fare was more than reasonable. Thanks, Dylan! ⛰
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 3 жыл бұрын
I love the architecture of Milan station, and the vibe outside. Not been there since the late nineties so thanks for the great reminders of happy days....
@LordRubino 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like italian scenery. You point your camera exactly at the spot i wanted to see. You could be a perfect travel companion
@DJTrainBrain 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, do we have the Bernina Express coming up?
@briangraham5156 3 жыл бұрын
That's my hope as well. I travelled that route from Tirano to St. Moritz five years ago. Beautiful.
@timlilijinsheng4070 3 жыл бұрын
ABe 8/12, dual voltage to Chur?
@Sulticune 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I was gonna ask! Hope so :D
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could say yes but I'll earmark that one for next summer.
@timlilijinsheng4070 3 жыл бұрын
@@DylansTravelReports what about December? it would be fun
@stuartarnold64 3 жыл бұрын
You should have carried on to St Moritz. Best scenic journey in the world 😉
@outdoorolli5754 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the journey to Tirano Dylan only did to ride the Bernina Express in the aftermath. The course along Lake Como may be quite scenic, but of course this is no match for a high alpine railway.
@ironmantrains 3 жыл бұрын
I went to Florence from Lucca on a double decker Regionale train. It was awesome, the seats in second class were like first clasd seats!
@mrtizio13 3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend the S7 as well, it starts in Milan and ends in Lecco, it's a pretty and relaxed route and the diesel trains are pretty new.
@thealitaliaa7714 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a pretty scenic ride
@invalidavatar 2 жыл бұрын
diesel?!
@mikecaird5554 3 жыл бұрын
Great video of one of my favourite parts of the world.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@anthonywarrener1881 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for an excellent report ! I agree the run from Milan is splendid, once you leave the outer suburban area. Most people travelling to Tirano will be using the town as a starting base for the RhB, and a run over the Bernina line to St.Moritz, which you sensibly refer to. I do hope you went onto the Bernina line, which is truly splendid. I look forward to your next report !
@GuyArab 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Warrener I have also ridden on the Bernina Express and like you, recommend that Dylan offers it to everybody.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😁
@TheSitruc46 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful scenery!
@goodi2shooz 3 жыл бұрын
I am an absolute fan of great scenery! Reminds me of traveling through Oregon where you don't spend the moment not looking out the window cuz there's always something awesome to see. Thanks for posting this beautiful trip!
@michaelformaini7053 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great scenic journey review. My paternal ancestry comes from this part of Italy, some three generations ago. I have never been to Italy and speak only the no nonsense Aussie version of English so it was great to see where part of my roots came from thanks to your travels. Hoping all is well with you back in Inverness.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! All going well with me thanks. Stay safe!
@martinbooth7517 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan. Really appreciate your posts. Stay safe.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Stay safe.
@Normanabutler1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for awesome vid. Put this trip on my to-do list thanks!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😁
@lloydstrips7586 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched quite a few travel reports by different people, and think yours are by far the best, keep up the good work 👍
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your kind words! Will do 😃
@johncrwarner 2 жыл бұрын
I have done the journey between Milano and Tirano twice once in either direction. The first time was the coach connected to the Bernina Express (and it was hell on wheels) The second time we used the same service you did and it was much more comfortable. The trains are old and weirdly configured too These look like the got an upgrade on the upholstery compared to ours. Milano Centrale is a huge station. I would say almost a rabbit warren for giant rabbits! It did have some fine food shops and if you read Italian there are two or three fine bookshops there too. I picked up a copy of " by Machiavelli there. A book I had only read in translation before and a classic of political philosophy. We were intellectually and physically well fed at Milano Centrale.
@HumbertoMesa 3 жыл бұрын
Nice so nice .... and Bernina Express trip have fantastics landscapes ... thks one more time
@luath5579 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning journey, Dylan! As you bought a one-way ticket I guess we can look forward to the Bernina Express on Friday, with it's great spirals and stunning views (it's even better coming down from St Moritz to Tirano, because you can see the snaking line below).
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid not yet. Next summer maybe.
@ronalddevine9587 3 жыл бұрын
Worth every last cent??? You stole it dude!!! Awesome scenery. A really beautiful part of the world. BTW, I meant to tell you yesterday that I thought th station in your home town was gorgeous. Beautiful architecture.
@AkramAzeez 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, Fantastic content from you, Dylan! Sceneries were spectacular, Bro.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@deepaksivasankaran5657 Жыл бұрын
Travelled in this route last April. ❤ ❤
@gab_v250 3 жыл бұрын
4:48 electric plugs (Italian style, 3 pins) have been added in newer revisions of MDVC and MDVE coaches (in which the access doors are respectively offset - 1/4 and 3/4 of the length of the coach - and at the opposites of the coach, exactly like many other European carriages)
@datboi2479 3 жыл бұрын
München to Verona is also a very scenic journey
@lanegoodspeed5103 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan! Interestingly enough Bombardier started out manufacturing snowmobiles and snocats! The company was started in Montreal Canada. My town south of Montreal in the US now has a big Bombardier train factory. Several years ago I took a tour of the factory. Pretty intimidating if I do say so!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks for the info!
@iankemp1131 3 жыл бұрын
This is certainly scenic, but I agree with other comments that it is surpassed by the continuation on the Bernina Express to St Moritz and its continuation over the Albula pass to Chur. The latter is the first section of the Glacier Express route to Brig and Zermatt, and then there is the Centovalli line from Domodossola to Locarno. All those lines were in the list of "Europe's Top Ten Scenic Routes" in the Thomas Cook European Rail Timetable of the 1980s. Others included the Lotschberg and Gotthard routes (original, not the new base tunnels), Cuneo-Nice/Ventimiglia, Martigny-Chamonix, the Rhine Gorge and Oslo-Bergen. I have been lucky enough to travel them all except the last.
@dazlebluefrogify 3 жыл бұрын
martigny /chamonix is for me one of the top 5 ,i worked summer seasons at the hotel restaurant on the col de la forclaz ,so would go down to martigny ,some days day off and come back up on the train (as it left martigny later than the last postal bus ) to le chatlard then hitch hike back up to the hotel (always found a ride within 15mins ) then some days i'd go across to france walking by the glacier du trient and catch the train in to cham from l'argentiere,happy and wonderful memories of one of the most beautiful parts of europe
@rolandharmer6402 3 жыл бұрын
Nice find! Ah! coaches where the windows line up with the seats, windows you can open. Also curtains - so don’t have to negotiate this the person opposite as to wether to have the blind up or down.
@judithcatlett8518 3 жыл бұрын
Not knowing much about anything related to European geography, I looked up the word Alps. Didn't know the word is attached to so many countries. When you said "Italian Alps", I was like, what? Had to look the definition of the word Alps up. Never too old to learn something new. Looks like the train got up to the 165 mile speed.
@roundandroundmyworld 3 жыл бұрын
Trust you came to Tirano to continue on the Bernina Railway. I took a roundtrip on that route from St. Moritz to Tirano a few years back, and it was hands down the most spectacular railway trip I had ever taken.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could say I had but it was back to Milan for me.
@piotrk73 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual ! Thank you for sharing ! 👍😃
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@470danadidas 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dylan. Please do more trips in Italy, especially along the Ligurian Riviera and the CinqueTerre. Also look forward to a trip on the Bernina express.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@louislegrand2865 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dylan! Another remarkable video.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jeremychannel333 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan, the scenery is amazing wow such beauty😮
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😁
@thealitaliaa7714 3 жыл бұрын
4:47 I think that those coaches have been upgarded recently, since that now they have a better air conditioning sistem , new doors between the section fot the coach, new lights and most importantly plug sockets.
@unutenteacaso6791 3 жыл бұрын
Hi dylan, we thank you for using the Milan Lecco-Sondrio-Tirano line, you must know that this, in addition to being a beautiful route, is a very old railway, dating back to the early 1900s and holds the record of being the first Italian railway to be electrified and to use experimential high voltage three-phase alternating current for traction of trains, this a world record! Now, as you have seen, the line lives in mediocrity due to the poor management of Trenord, but if you were lucky you could have sat on board of the ETR 425 Corradia, in step with European standards; but for me for a sentimental level the MDVCs remains the best coaches, now historics of the line and full of many momories!! We Italians do not appreciate the fortunes we have, always dwelling on the problems, but I hope that thanks to your contribution and compliment as the "most scenic railway of Europe" you can make this now decaying line known and appreciate again! Greetings from a commuter and fanatic of this railway, come to Italy whenever you want, and thank you!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for the info!
@simonpilk Жыл бұрын
I have travelled from Milano Centrale to Tirano in both directions a coupe, of times connecting off or to the RhB station in Tirano. I actually prefer the old loco hauled trains as especially in summer, you can open the windows and take photos which is so important when travelling by Lake Como. I travelled also on the ET425 units and just felt like I was in a sealed tube with no chance to take photos without horrible reflections. Also the units have just one or two toilets per 5-car unit and it was out of order which is not good for over a 2 hour journey. old trains rule!!
@unutenteacaso6791 Жыл бұрын
@@simonpilk exactly, that's the same thing other tourists of the line say! now Trenord has begun to revamp these carriages by removing the possibility of lowering the window... But luckily Milan sometimes gives us old trains now placed as regional services for tertiary lines, or the pilots are still in their original state! If you pass through the Milano Tirano Line, always remember to take a look at the material in circulation, you will most likely be able to find these old glories still in service! for any information I remain at your disposal!
@simonpilk Жыл бұрын
@@unutenteacaso6791 it is a shame to see the ‘old’ trains with the Class 464 locomotive disappearing as the new units are not good at all. There is the beautiful section after Monza where the line hugs the coast of Lake Como for some distance before turning inland towards Tirano. I think the route is part of the entire experience of Milano Centrale to Samedan and Trenord are just spoiling it.
@rvijayraghavan9645 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Compilation. Very beautiful scenery
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@pikachu8508 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. You should try the RhB Bernina Express, the scenery is just simply breathtaking. Rhaetian Railway also operates Albula line from St Moritz to Chur which it's scenery is also incredible and also a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
@manmeetsinghmahajan6183 3 жыл бұрын
Good one Enjoyed the scenic route .its worth to travel so nature lovers can enjoy.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@tripdiaries5964 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you
@fenackerpan 3 жыл бұрын
Apart from the snow...this route is more scenic than the Tirano-St Moritz trip.
@etc_be_b_10_venkat_reddy27 3 жыл бұрын
Soo relaxing maan. Thanks Dylan.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@Ludographic359 3 жыл бұрын
You passed across my town, Lecco 😍 that’s nice!
@ericericson3535 3 жыл бұрын
Been to Bellagio on Lake Como three times, Italy's hidden jewel. I'll be moving there the day after I win the lottery! Also the area around the Cinque Terre in Liguria is exquisite, although becoming overrun by tourists thank to Rick Steves. LOL!
@andysedgley 3 жыл бұрын
I too have visited Bellagio, and looking up and down Lake Como at the immense views, I thought "when I get home, the only way I'll be able to see this far is by looking straight up"
@Neville60001 3 жыл бұрын
Don't blame Rick Steves for that, especially since he's most likely responsible for more Americans being tourists.
@shanelbw 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your journey & the seat tour👌🏽🚂
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😁
@gab_v250 3 жыл бұрын
The E464 locomotive is the main locomotive for regional and inter-regional transport. No wonder there are 728 (!) units built overall for the whole Italy. Sometimes they're used for special services.
@gary3561 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: lake Como is the lake featured in Top Gear where Richard hammond in an Alpha Romeo has to race Jeremy Clarkson on a speedboat. Have a butchers on here
@ramakrishna.m9152 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween Dylan.😁 Nice scenary captured and great work done for editing. Stay safe..
@andysedgley 3 жыл бұрын
I blinked and missed the edit as the train left Milan and thought the high speed train to the left was incredibly short!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@heathertruskinger6214 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely scenery. Thanks for the video. Definitely well worth the money for the fare.
@gabri_maybe 3 жыл бұрын
Sad that you didn't have to honours of opening the door yourself,other than that,quite a good video
@larryloveless2967 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video like I was riding along with you. I have ridden the Bermina beteen Tirano and St. Moritz and know you will really enjoy it. I am from St. Louis and have ridden all the U.S. and Canadian trains west of St. Louis for scenery. I have ridden the Eurostar beteen London and Paris a few times, the TGV beteen Paris and Nice, the Trenitialia high speed in Italy, and a sleeper car train that no longer exists betwwn Munich and Amsterdam as well. The high speed rail and train stations in Europe amaze me.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! The US and Canada sure have some great trains 😁
@HARBHEJ Жыл бұрын
Very lovely videos by you 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@ArunTripsNTalks 3 жыл бұрын
Good journey, you are my eyes for euro train trips...
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@quarryfield 3 жыл бұрын
Spectacular train ride!
@LuisRodriguez-xt9ly 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid ur content is getting better and better👍🏻
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SimonePollastrodesigner 18 күн бұрын
I think the most scenographic train lines in Europe are Jonica line from Reggio di Calabria to Taranto, and the Rheingold line from Basel to Hamburg along Rhein river.
@fedeto9593 3 жыл бұрын
Love italy
@theobrattinga500 3 жыл бұрын
Great video !!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@yukwahchu337 3 жыл бұрын
The views look really great and Milano Centrale is impressive as always, but it would appear that the leg room on the train is not so great when all the seats are occupied or when someone is directly sitting across (and with luggage) !
@martinbitter4162 11 ай бұрын
at 0:50. I remember cars/ Taxis driving in there to pick up passengers in the 1970s
@Prabhakarprabhakar-op2hb 3 жыл бұрын
awesome ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@pablobarrenaguzman5730 3 жыл бұрын
Please Dylan! You must take the Tirano to St Moritz train, and then tell us what do you think about scenery Train routes...! 🤩
@ery9077 3 жыл бұрын
This channel make me go abroadholic
@Steve-xf4uv 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Milano, that is one impressive station. And temperature checks before boarding, excellent idea. What is that gorgeous orange and white train at 2:57 ? OOPS, that's not the one we are on today. The seats look comfy and this layour resembles cars that Amtrak had on the west coast in the 1990's. As I remember the washrooms were a bit tacky in those too. The scenery is spectacular you are so right Dylan. Even going east after Lake Como alongside the roads. Caught the Bernina and a steam engine.The E.464 looks a lot like the Asea that operated on the northeast corridor service out of New York City. Thanks Dylan the locomotive shots are great and really appreciated.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
That is an ETR 500. It's one of FS Tranitalia's high speed Freciarossa (Red Arrow) trains. I did a review on it if you are curious to see what it's like kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMtoZLSnpr6ZcoU.html
@Steve-xf4uv 3 жыл бұрын
@@DylansTravelReports Thanks Dylan. Just looked at it, fantastic. I opted for Business class b4 the end of the video and then saw your comment !!
@SeverityOne 3 жыл бұрын
Italy: the country where literally EVERYTHING looks good. Even the dustbins (trans cans).
@rob5197 3 жыл бұрын
You mean everything looks old, dinghy, shabby right ? Try a Swiss train then you know
@thealitaliaa7714 3 жыл бұрын
@@rob5197 Depends in which region you travel, you can find pretty good trains in Italy too, since that Trenord and Trenitalia are introducing more and more new train into service.
@intersezioni 3 жыл бұрын
All these old regional trains in a few months will be replaced by new models that will be called Caravaggio, Donizetti, rock and pop. Respectively trains produced by Hitachi and alstom Italia for Trenord and Trenitalia
@simonpilk 3 жыл бұрын
I have travelled from Milano Centrale to Tirano or return once on an E464 plus coaches and twice on a unit. The experience was so different as the older trains feature opening windows where it is possible to take many photographs of this beautiful line whereas in a modern unit, the windows are sealed and just reflections are all you get out of the windows. It is the same on the RhB and other lines where units are replacing hauled trains or older units where taking photographs which people do in their hundreds on trains like this as they are tourist routes. The Operating companies need to understand this when they plan trains and suitably make allowances as with no tourists these lines are not earning their financial keep and the visitors are put off travelling by train forever.
@johnstanton2271 3 жыл бұрын
I took the local trains on RHB from Tirano to Chur connecting in St. Moritz instead of the Bernina Express. I'm so happy I did that. The train from Tirano to Chur had the older coaches where you can open the windows to take pictures without reflections. The train from St. Moritz to Chur had newer cars where the windows did not open except for one compartment in the last car of the train so I was still able to get some decent photos. Also, when I traveled from Chur to Brig, the cars on all three trains were the older type where I could open the windows to take pictures. The worst was between Brig and Zermatt. They were new cars and the windows did not open. I got nothing but reflections. I agree trains that rely on tourist traffic should have provisions to allow photographers to take unobstructed photos. I am happy I was able to travel through the Swiss Alps while the older cars were still in service.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame as an old loco hauled train is just what this rout needs imo
@simonpilk 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnstanton2271 yes same here. The lifeblood of these routes is tourism and having new types of stock is just awful. I have done Brig - Andermatt and had to put up with one of these awful new units where a hugely scenic line which I wanted to take photos on soon became pointless with a sea of reflections and not one decent photo.
@tanga51 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would have been nice to have seen the scenery on the opposite side also. The train being so empty.
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! On the other side of the train, you'll mainly have a close up view of the side of mountains.
@JamesThompson-oz8kh 3 жыл бұрын
The scenery rather reminds me of the Baztan Valley in the western Spanish Pyrenees. Minus the lake, of course. Very beautiful.
@albertweir5070 3 жыл бұрын
what a trip brilliant cobber you sure get around dont you cheers
@JoeLikesTrains 3 жыл бұрын
maybe, but the Rhätische bahn does great scenic 2 hour+ routes to and from Tirano into switzerland
@valeriomaffezzini6951 3 жыл бұрын
great video! I live next to Tirano and I see that train passing every day !! it's great to see that you like our areas!
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You are luck to live in such a beautiful part of the world!
@valeriomaffezzini6951 3 жыл бұрын
I daily rode that trait between Sondrio 11:52 and Tirano for four years to go to school in Sondrio
@tedfisk1211 2 ай бұрын
We took the train from Milan to Tirano specifically to ride the Bernina Express. The train to Tirano certainly was scenic. We just didn't plan to spend anytime in Tirano and I didn't take any time to railfan in Tirano. Next time, for sure.
@olasola1013 3 жыл бұрын
One train route that might be even more scenic is Bergensbanen in Norway. It's over 400 kilometres long and connects the Norwegian cities of Bergen and Oslo. Interestingly, the locomotive-hauled trains on it (other than the tilting high speed trains) are hauled by the Swiss Re460 locomotives in a different livery. The livery is gray with black fronts and a Norwegian landscape image slapped on the side with the text "See Norway, take the train." in Norwegian.
@filippopetraroli8912 3 жыл бұрын
In 2019 ,Wonderfulllll!!!!
@Ashworth-Media 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ride for what is a normal train journey, but I think the connecting service to St Moritz on the
@ericericson3535 3 жыл бұрын
That's why there was an LOL at the end!
@Filippo.E464 2 жыл бұрын
4:48 these trains have not yet been refurbished, but soon will be
@gokceaydin3324 3 жыл бұрын
Travel on such trains should be head out :)
@DanielsUKT 3 жыл бұрын
geat trip report i like the trains modern interior but the doors to go between different sections in one carriage was slightly weird but the best part was obviously the mountain scenery of the alps so beautiful and i have heard good things about the bernina express and also the glacier express two very scenic rail journeys i want to do when i get to visit the European alps
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@DanielsUKT 3 жыл бұрын
@@DylansTravelReports no problem
@amtrakharry 3 жыл бұрын
That was excellent !!! :):):)
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed 😁
@johnmehaffey9953 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I don’t mind the train departing a few minutes late in the present climate with COVID gives people the chance to get sorted and everyone travels safely
@FinnTheCanadian 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@maureendesquitado3606 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan I enjoyed the train ride. I also loved the scenery!!! Have you been to on Switzerland? I,ll be watching your next video!! See you on Friday!! ☆☆☆☆☆
@DylansTravelReports 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Yes I've been to Switzerland and filmed some trains there 😁
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