Great video and glad you got the result you were after. Your reaction at Stealth said it all. I can totally relate with this issue; the antisocial factor, noise fatigue and discomfort, embarrassment for the passengers and the irritation of forced changes to the natural driving style (rev avoidance). I have a custom stainless Powerflow three silencer system on my Audi 90. It's been on there for 20+ years! Has always had terrible resonance at 2-2.5k rpm under the lightest engine load. It's a common problem introduced with a free flowing, straight through exhaust. Audi's original centre box would have been designed to target this resonance with chambers inside the silencer, no doubt. The consequence with my system is I avoid the 2-2.5k rev range where possible. It quietens down above 2.5k rpm, mercifully, but it's present at 40-55mph in top gear. A steady 70mph is quieter than 50mph! I've used my phone with a spectrum analyser app to capture the waveform. The sound wave has a visible peak (higher decibels) at around 90Hz. A low frequency which is the bassy drone. I've made some calculations to design my own Helmholtz resonator to cancel (attentuate) the soundwave at this frequency. Will try it out one day! Need to find someone willing to amend / weld my exhaust. Not got much to lose modifying the old system, I don't have spare cash at the moment and off-the-shelf aftermarket options for my car basically don't exist. I like keeping my car OEM but I'm not sure I'd want to go back to standard on the exhaust. It's finding a happy compromise... and I love to hear the inline five noise when occasionally giving it the beans. Sorry for waffling... or rather droning on ☺️
@philipguacci6452 Жыл бұрын
I fitted a Magnaflow muffler to my WRX holy cow it droned and sounded like a machine gun at 60mph. A Remus muffler gave great sound and no drone. My MkV gti is still stock. Not messing with it.
@JustinStrife4 ай бұрын
I love the Magnaflow on my mk6 GTI with k04 and APR DP so much, that I got one for my mk6 R. It can drone under load, but I really enjoy the sounds out of it.
@Pluginz Жыл бұрын
A stock VAG 3 silencer system on an 8 valve is very very quiet compared to any other system ive tried to be honest. Only problem you get with a proper 8v VAG system is the lack of air flow. Which really shows on a 16v lump. Id go for a 16 valve system everytime now on any 8 valve, from the downpipe onwards of course.
@anony-mousex Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you stumble across a brilliant KZfaqr who really knows their stuff... Great channel mate
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you are too kind 🙌🏻
@gavinhibberd17088 ай бұрын
Great channel, thank you for the content. I have had my Mk1 GTi since 1987 and it is currently being restored. Before finding the channel I have bought Koni Adjustables, Eibach springs, Milltek Classic exhaust and a Blaupunkt Bremen!!!! Fantastic to see all these items installed & reviewed on the MK2. Please keep the MK2 content coming.👍👍
@malcolmscott4150 Жыл бұрын
Sounds and looks OEM to me - my 96 Astra GSI 2.0 was quite bassey with enough boom to annoy neighbours and was OEM. The tips look great and it’s such a great example given how many winters it has endured - looking forward to next video on this project 🎯👏🏆
@philiporeilly9662 Жыл бұрын
This brought back fond memories of my 1983 GTI. The improvement in performance ( and sound ) was astounding, when I installed a Bellevue Motor Sports tri-Y exhaust manifold. My Mark 6 GTI responded quite well to an AWE down pipe, connected to the stock exhaust system, and has no drone.
@ToMsK87 Жыл бұрын
Big improvement in exhaust sound and looks in keeping with an OEM+ look
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
OEM+ is biggest compliment so thanks 🙌
@rickydub6950 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like oem 8v system at idle and on the road... mine is running an oe spec exhaust and sounds like that. 👍 i had a stainless 2.5" 2 box system made for my 16v last year... and it's going back in for a 3rd silencer in April... too noisy 🙈😁
@MrGSI9214 күн бұрын
great video, i got you, i even have the same problem with a really noise charakter, maybe a i´m going with the same exhaust as you in the future
@A7Dave777 Жыл бұрын
Perfect. So obnoxious driving the freeway surrounded by loud exhaust noise. Or being in my house and hearing some loud exhaust from a car a mile distant. The guys driving these cars think they are cool, but it just screams "Chump Car". Class and power are cool, like your Milltek exhaust. Well done.
@ravenmaster6364 Жыл бұрын
I like the Milltek sound and the undoubted quality of it, it really suits the 8v. Back in around 2001 i took my black 91 8 gti to the vw dealers to have a grnuine system fitted to replace the pattern one the car came with and it was absolutely superb in both quality and sound, giving a little pop pop pop on the overun and when gearing down too 👍. I love what you are doing with your car here Andrew, keep the progress videos coming please! 👍👍👍👍
@darranjsamuel3063 Жыл бұрын
It sounds a lot nicer with the new exhaust 👍
@--Nino-- Жыл бұрын
Great Video! really enjoying the journey on this GTi, I would receommend using a product called "White Diamond" metel polish on them tips, it has a sealant and will help to keep them looking new.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nino, I’ll check that out as even being stainless they can lose their gleam 👍
@JamesGadbury Жыл бұрын
Would/do/have you considered an atmospheric, 'rise and drive ' onboard / POV video with this car? Perhaps even no commentary, or limited commentary. Older cars are full of character. I'm not sure if that appeals or if there's interest for it. Just throwing out an idea... Perhaps it's just me but I love going for a drive on my favourite roads, at sunrise when they're beautifully quiet. This time of year is perfect for it. Maybe I'm bonkers. I've captured a few myself, although my video and audio capture is awful. I use a dated mobile phone. One day, I'll upgrade 😎
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea James, I need to get the project moving but a £3.5k bodyshop bill has slowed things down somewhat. I'll definitely consider rise and drive for the future though. I recently left the house at 4.40am for a Eurotunnel crossing and it was a truly magical time of day :)
@Buck3366 Жыл бұрын
One of the worst cars I’ve been in for drone was a friends restored 205 GTI. The exhaust hit a resonance at certain rpm that actually make me feel sick. It’s all about the right system for the car and loud for me certainly isn’t ‘sporty’.
@Bob-sy7ln Жыл бұрын
Much better ! Correct height and tip spacing and returns the oem refined but sporty Mk2 8v sound ! One thing - I believe from memory the oem tailpipes were Matte black? I recall my Mk 2 16v GTi had Matte black tips from new - I had to re spray them after 12 months!
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
There was an era when 16v was black yes but this wasn't for very long, IIRC late small bumper era 1989? Other than that they were all silver 8v and 16v
@Bob-sy7ln Жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard possibly a parts overhang a as mine was a facelift Mk2 16v, big bumper, no quarter lights etc, also a rhd import from Germany. The special anniversary(?) edition, forged alloys, stripy upholstery. Helios Blue met. Sniff. Damn I wish I had that car now…… 60 in second gear, 7.5k red line….
@kdevitt Жыл бұрын
Massive improvement - nice work
@paulm2322 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, thanks! I’ve got a Mk3 Colour Concept. Milltek don’t do exhausts for the Mk3! Every other Mk except 3. Such a shame cos I want to replace the system on mine and I’m struggling to find a reputable name such as Milltek. No more Magnex, Janspeed etc.
@Christophergriffiths1972 Жыл бұрын
When you had those gloves on at the beginning, I thought you were going to tackle this job yourself. Would’ve been a bit of a nightmare doing it on the floor with axle stands. Can’t beat a Miltek exhaust though, very nice.
@davidchambers7622 Жыл бұрын
Great content again Andrew, these 10 mins videos are perfect- I loved my red Mk2 8 valve, disappointed with the under steering mk4 but love this mk8 with my new DSG carbon paddles- keep up the excellent work.
@davidcupra4913 Жыл бұрын
It’s 17 mins 😂
@nicojager686 Жыл бұрын
Its been a while after your last video how is the mark 2 performing? Hopefully you had some time to enjoy the golf without issues. Great vids!
@andrewbarnard6935 Жыл бұрын
Loving the Channel and new content, always find your fixed camera angle too low though
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew, I'll have a think about the angle, I'm possibly being lazy (or it's a flattering angle 😁)
@jakehammond7972 Жыл бұрын
Do these help emissions over older exhausts ?
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Unlikely
@roryb6752 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great. A huge improvement. Brings back a lot of fond memories of my Mk2 GTI.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it - I'm appreciating how good Mk2 was back in the day by driving this one today - very deserving of its quality reputation back then - just look at it today 30+ years later - not good for business if manufacturers make cars last forever.
@Phillologist8 ай бұрын
What did you do with the exhaust that was removed?
@jaywhitney78911 ай бұрын
I had a mk3 GTi 16v with a Miltec system on and it sounded better than the porsche across the street 😎🤙🏽
@waffentreager628611 ай бұрын
What suspension is in the mk2?
@garymcgregor70485 ай бұрын
What a difference. So much better
@darrencottrell5541 Жыл бұрын
Loving this series Andrew. A great aftermarket choice IMHO. Good to see Stealth on the channel too. Nostalgia rocks - I need to own one in the future. 😊
@Pluginz Жыл бұрын
Nice review thank you 🙂 I think the Supersprint twin pipe for the 8 valve is superb sounding and can handle a 2 box system without the middle baffle over the beam no problems. Plus the old MOT centre amazed how quiet it was. Only becomes deep booming sounding when you floor the throttle. I did have the whole system at one stage. I changed the front supersprint silencer for a straight pipe and had a baffle fitted inside. Worked better than the Supersprint and had more flow for sure. The stock system really does restrict the flow. I think the Milltek has more of a slight rasp on exit which is causing the blown exhaust type of sound on throttle. My ABF with the 8 valve Supersprint backbox, plus 2.5" open centre pipe and home made front pipe with added baffle kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbCdgN2ezK_LgoU.html Supersprint all the way tho 🙂
@keithgreen9009 Жыл бұрын
I just love this gti , sounds and looks so much better. Your keeping motoring history on the road
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith - I've always believed Mk2 are best kept standard when it comes to what you can see and hear. As items get replaced they will get upgraded but must still conform to the above 'OEM+' philosophy.
@danielrussell446 Жыл бұрын
Well done Andrew a great improvement to an already lovely car it sounds much more like they did now looking forward to seeing this one come on best wishes to you both Daniel
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel - indeed the Milltek is uncannily similar sounding to the original - no surprise as the guys that work there are all VW fans and many old enough to have owned them back in the day - Phil in marketing how has 2 of them!
@tonyjazz4073 Жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds perfect. Milltek defo on my list when mine will need replacing on the Mk8.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it. Original exhausts last ages, longer than EV batteries I bet!
@MashPedal Жыл бұрын
Much nicer tone on the Milltek. The old exhaust reminded me of a Sportex exhaust I had once, boomy but fun when in the mood.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it JB. I sold the old exhaust on the day it came off so it has a market. If you have a modified Mk2 it's probably what you want.
@AircooledAl Жыл бұрын
Love the milltek stuff top quality
@McNasty214 Жыл бұрын
Great result. I had a jetex system on my mk2 8 valve gti for the exact same reasons and it made long journeys much more pleasant.
@SA-yb7mt Жыл бұрын
I love these kind of improvements. I think as a car ages, it looks better the more original it is. This change is definitely better. Cant wait for the next part.
@adambraunstein3283 Жыл бұрын
Really looks and sounds much better! 👌
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@raychan1304 Жыл бұрын
looks much cleaner and match the car
@markday5797 Жыл бұрын
This GTI sure reminds me of my MK2 and the same color blue, brings back such good memories, for me.
@jaywhitney78911 ай бұрын
Beautiful sound 😎🤙🏽
@jrushen4235 Жыл бұрын
New exhaust sounds less raspy. Much better look. Great job.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks J!
@ivanb3303 Жыл бұрын
You have given the Mk2 extra life and sound
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivan, if you going to preserve a car it needs to look and sound correct and Milltek allow that which is cool.
@b_the_lone_wolf Жыл бұрын
Well done, marked improvement!
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DarrenJMHughes Жыл бұрын
I really like the new sound it makes and the look it now has. Its like night and day different and I guess very similar to OEM exhaust. Where the tips/back box not black?
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Someone else a while ago educated me to mk2 back box being black but this must have been a very limited run. Maybe 16v only. Sold 100s and don’t remember any being black as had to polish the stainless tips
@DarrenJMHughes Жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard or maybe the images I have seen the exhaust tips just need a clean?
@Shyted Жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty decent balance I reckon, nice.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
I guess it is ShyTed, Milltek promised that but I was surprised it actually delivered because I'm quite fussy and noise can make or break a car.
@deadwolfking8267 Жыл бұрын
Should have done a drive by fully sending it but regardless sound nice good video 😊
@cornishrider Жыл бұрын
Sounds magnificent, really does capture the note lovely. This is a really great series, many thanks!
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@richweston6202 Жыл бұрын
Rate milltek absolutely love the sound of mine!
@Tristbag Жыл бұрын
What a lovely machine, good job!
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@rjhandley556 Жыл бұрын
Sounds ace 🎉
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👍
@rjhandley556 Жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard do you prefer this or your cupra?
@malchowle5618 Жыл бұрын
Great I'm learning so much in these vids 👍
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@NiceGuyAidey Жыл бұрын
Much better sound on that, and the tips look much better also, get some dynax on the underside next Andrew 😉
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Glad you approve. Yes indeed preservation is crucial seeing as it’s so good today👍
@adrian.adrianl6401 Жыл бұрын
Very nice , OEM plus .
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
I forgot to use that phrase, darn it 😁👍
@AlexBarrettOWI Жыл бұрын
Much better. Like it.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex👍
@macbook9084 Жыл бұрын
Great Big improvement
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@Birmingham_racing Жыл бұрын
Big improvement
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👊
@porscha901 Жыл бұрын
Very loud me thinks
@andrewmarsden1970 Жыл бұрын
Nice car.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@bobwilson7384 Жыл бұрын
Sounds excellent!
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@m0ogy Жыл бұрын
That's so much better
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👏
@totte1015 Жыл бұрын
I just cant justify the price. The price man.
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
It’s not cheap but it aces everything so it’s just about worth it
@keithbloomfield1341 Жыл бұрын
Milltek Classic sweet 🎶
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👏
@rasherbasher8203 Жыл бұрын
All nicely coming together. Been watching the mk5 video too...👉 👍👈
@sanjaygandhi8504 Жыл бұрын
Smooth and silky sound as it should be...😎
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👏
@kirilmihaylov198810 ай бұрын
Old sound is better!
@resnonverba137 Жыл бұрын
Much better, especially visually. It was only after seeing the new exhaust on the car that it became obvious how awful to old one was.
@simonking559 Жыл бұрын
Much better👍
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
👍
@VishalVoraUK Жыл бұрын
Much better.
@thegolfdiaries1123 Жыл бұрын
The one I never got to own...could that change? Maybe 😀
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd own another, all I can say is if you see one on social you like, tell the owner to let you know if the time comes
@thegolfdiaries1123 Жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard My eyes are open for such a car. Nice vid btw.
@charliecoco2115 Жыл бұрын
Sounds much better but NOT at idle I'm afraid
@volkswizard Жыл бұрын
It’s tricky as in reality it’s lost a fair bit of the boom at idle but is still loud as they were on the original system. TBH it’s steady cruising speed noise that matters and it’s massively better then 👍