“Mindfulness Doesn’t Work for Me:” Teaching it Differently

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Thomas Zimmerman, Ms.Ed., LPCC, offers EMDR Foundational Training in Cleveland, Ohio, and online. We can also train your whole agency. See: EMDRCleveland.com
"Many approaches [to mindfulness] throw the client into the deep end of the present, the body, or noticing without much preparation or guidance as though they are running every client through the same mindfulness machine. How we approach a client system with severe trauma needs to be different than how we approach a system that is relatively healthy. Our interventions should match the client we are working with. So, maybe the problem isn’t that many clients simply can’t do mindfulness, maybe they can’t do it the way we have been teaching it."

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@Windowswatcher Ай бұрын

Thank you. I had to keep stopping and re-running parts of this in order to make notes and to think about what you were saying. Your explanation of these ideas and strategies is very clear, but is so densely packed with meaning and resonance that just one hearing wasn't enough for me. Your metaphors are especially helpful in solidifying the points you are making... and at the same time giving nuance to the processes to which you allude. I'm often astounded by the depth and strength of the nervous system in clients to protect them through their lives, in many ways it's super-human. Oh, but I ache to see them healed and to be able to allow that energy to be used for them and not against them ... and every small step along that road is wonderful. When a client tells me that for most of his life he has felt like a refugee (he's in his 50s) in every sense of the word, then the magnitude of his trauma can hardly be imagined.

@laursd4866 Жыл бұрын

This is so good...gonna watch again and take notes! (Would you consider writing a book with all of your great information?)

@wakeeddie Жыл бұрын

Like this a lot, Tom! Thank you...

@gracereyes2653 Жыл бұрын

Do you have a list of resources for organizations or clinics that practice EMDR which you know to have this approach? I ask as a person looking for a therapist that works with complex trauma. I understand the focus of your work is on training clinicians, but I’d be grateful for any resources you know of for the client side of the equation. Thanks in advance.

@lguinancio 5 ай бұрын

Damn, I asked basically this same question in a comment in another video and now I see it's been a year and you didn't get a reply. Did you find someone for yourself? If so, how?

@lguinancio 5 ай бұрын

Also, I think I'll send him an email about this question. He has a contact page on his qebsite.

@Heyu7her3 4 ай бұрын

I don't see how this video as-is wouldn't be helpful for a client, as it's extremely helpful to me _(a client)._

@BethC23 Жыл бұрын

This was very helpful. I was thinking of particular clients I’ve had in the past and currently as you were speaking and “this doesn’t work for me:” Do you find that kids and teen have more difficulty with mindfulness and body noticing ability?

@meljaxb Жыл бұрын

From personal experience: For Kids and teens it's not that they don't notice their bodys, but that it's to intense to notice it. You should know, that almost all experiences kids or adolescence do, are completely new/frist time experiences and a big new learning process. So for them everything that happens is rather too much, than for adult persons, who desensitize to all that information and stuff going on and feelings happening. And in the case of an traumatized child, then possible the quiet/mindful state is something they associate with being alone and neglected with bad emotions or bad thoughs/fears. So mindfulness and being quite is really comparable to torture for them. They need to sit there with feelings they are afraid of and don't know, if somebody will help them after that with that emotions/assume nobody will help them/be there for them. As adult person we get much more used to waiting and accepting the pain, as it is nothing new and we know it's reoccurring and survivable. For kids it's still much more of an existential treat. Hope it helps a little bit to understand. And sorry for mistakes, English is not my first language