Mini JCW v Abarth 595 Review | hot hatches tested | Autocar
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4 жыл бұрынToday it's a hot hatchback challenge, between a Mini John Cooper Works 3dr hatch - let's call it the Mini JCW - and the Abarth 595 Competizione.
These are two lairy, good fun, wildly characterful hot hatches. They might not be the ultimate in keenness - you'd look to something like the Ford Fiesta ST if you wanted the greatest all rounder in the class - but they both offer something unique and entertaining.
The Mini JCW has a big 2.0-litre turbocharged engine with plenty of power and its sophisticated chassis ought to make it very capable.
The Abarth 595 is a more curious hatch - a city car with aggressive looks and the aggression turned up to 11.
We like them both. But which will our expert road testers, Mauro Calo and Matt Prior, think is the best? Join us on the roads of Wales in the height of, er, summer, as we find out.
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@akrokdesign 4 жыл бұрын
I bought an Abarth cause it makes me smile, every darn day.
@bloodknight667 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto. Love the little box every day.
@AndyS2K76 4 жыл бұрын
I sold mine because it doesn't make me smile.....only the sound make me smile. But nothing more...Now I have a new Gt86 and a panda 100hp as a day car, a little tuned and it's ugly compared to abarth....it's slow compared to turbo abarth, but when i'm in the corner my face smile every day....(better gearshift, better wheel sensation, better handling and the aspirated is so good to push...)
@timothygray7412 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndyS2K76NO
@ZareP1 4 жыл бұрын
i have a fiat 500 diesel tuned to 110/120cv (by the previous owner, i'm not sure) and just the look makes me smile (black with white side stripes just under the windows and white roof) and i can't wait to have a chance to buy an Abarth, my next car for sure no matter how much time it will take
@thatbikedad8252 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at getting one these are they fun
@zackdl 4 жыл бұрын
These guys were bang on with the review. I rented an abarth for 48 hours, and put 303 miles on it in that time. I've never had so much fun. I don't care that it's not got the best handling, or the nicest interior or the best ride, but I've never smiled so much in 48 hours. It's got so much personality, and just for that, I'd own one.
@carreragt8516 4 жыл бұрын
Bought an Abarth because of the sound, looks and driving feel. - Didn’t buy a mini because way too expensive and a bit dull - Didn’t buy a Fiesta ST because they’re far far too common and boring because of that - Volkswagen didn’t get back to me about buying an UP GTI - Volkswagen sold a Polo GTi I had my deposit on 🤷♂️
@bloodknight667 4 жыл бұрын
The Up would be a massive disappointment after the Abarth, I guess. It just doesn't have the oomph.
@carreragt8516 4 жыл бұрын
bloodknight667 I had the base 60bhp as my first car and I absolutely loved it, was so fun to drive. It doesn’t need Abarth power to be fun!
@AndyS2K76 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, abarth sound it's amazing, the looks it's amazing but the driving fell not so good. After having sold mine I have bought a Panda 100HP so much smile driving this little cracked machine. Next year I think to change for a new 3cilinder ford Fiesta ST. I live in turin and 500 500 abarth is so common. I see one every 5 minutes....fiesta ST is so rare. The opposite of you...:)
@mattsamuels3607 3 жыл бұрын
Abarths do sound good. Think there’s a lot of Abarth owners on here as some seems to think their leagues above lol. Personally would have the Polo GTI & JCW over an Abarth
@ValFinale 2 жыл бұрын
new minis are complete garbageeeeeeeee
@operamatthew 4 жыл бұрын
if you push the sport button and don’t feel a significant difference your car either is malfunctioning or you’re paralyzed.
@deechenzorides 4 жыл бұрын
Did I just watch a Speed Talking Competition??
@Slowwagonftl 4 жыл бұрын
Chin Chenzo all they did was talk over each other lmao
@justinchapman2454 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who listens to podcasts on 1.8x I coped quite well but I feel sorry for any non-UK viewers who struggle with accents. One at a time please, chaps.
@MrSpencerTreas 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned both of them. The Mini cooper was more expensive to own and you see so many of them. The Fiat is not as nice inside but I didn't care because it was more fun and cheaper to run too. The Fiat I think is the one to buy because it is more fun to drive and you see less of them driving around.
@droneuk 4 жыл бұрын
Mr.Spencer totally agree, it’s not th sheep car and if your into cars it shows more passion. It’s a small Sport Italian car with character compared to a bloated German so called mini
@eslameddinghalebi1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi may I ask? Regarding both cars you mentioned the fiat being more fun to drive despite the power difference, what we're the better aspects in terms of driving for the fiat?
@worldofdamys3716 4 жыл бұрын
Abarth is owned by fca (sadly) and is the "cheap" (no so cheap) sport car maker..mini is owned by BMW and BMW is premium brand so the price is higher. BTW I hope FCA in future will sell Abarth brand because I'm tired to see only the 595 (I own one). BTW I like the copper s cabrio.
@geecars6263 4 жыл бұрын
Mr.Spencer I just can’t see £23k in that Fiat, mind you that MINI is probably £33k looking at the spec of it...
@E0NClaN 4 жыл бұрын
I currently own a TTS and had an abarth prior to this and I have to honestly say it was some of the most fun I've had in a car. Every time I see one I want to jump back into one. Yes it's not the fastest or best setup but in terms of smiles per miles the little thing really does put one!
@JD2ndcity 4 жыл бұрын
Love those little Abarths.
@barefeats 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a MINI JCW the last year of the Supercharger (2006). It's now 2019 and it's still a screaming blast. In the words of my wife, "We're NEVER getting rid of this car!"
@bigmanproductions2756 4 жыл бұрын
Rob-ART Morgan ....And that’s what it’s all about you’ve summed it up👍🏻
@diogo266 4 жыл бұрын
What exactly is the point of comparing an A segment car like the 595 to a B segment car like the Mini? What's next? Gonna compare a Focus to a 3 Series and arrive to the conclusion the 3 series is a better car? Brilliant "journalism." Wanna do a fair comparison? Compare the 595 to the Up GTI or the Adam S.
@geecars6263 4 жыл бұрын
I think a Cooper S would have been a fairer comparison, same sort of price, roughly the same performance, same customer base...
@CAR_NL 4 жыл бұрын
Well, to be honest: there is more back seat space in the Abarth then in the Mini I know from my own experience of owning them. The Abarth is way more fun tho. The Mini is more serious, the Abarth is just so much fun. It's also way more distinctive.
@chain2001 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!!!
@bloodknight667 4 жыл бұрын
The 595 would crush the Up GTI and the Adam S purely on performance. That said, the Adam S ist a nicely built car, shame that Opel stopped making them. I almost bought one, but the 595 was more fun, so I chose that.
@diogo266 4 жыл бұрын
@@bloodknight667 It would yes, but it still would be a fair comparison, given the three of them are in the same exact city car segment.
@_P_F 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely do more hatchback/normal car reviews like this. (Any thumbs down are because you're talking over each other.)
@tobybrown1194 4 жыл бұрын
Its all about smiles per gallon with the abarth!
@bign3ck 4 жыл бұрын
And knowing your mechanics on a first name basis.
@CAR_NL 4 жыл бұрын
@@bign3ck Lol, the Abarth is way more reliable then the Mini. The 1.4 t-jet is just bullet proof. The Mini, with modern BMW hardware is dramatic at the moment.
@samwilde595 4 жыл бұрын
bign3ck that’s what people who don’t own one say, most reliable car I’ve had yet and it’s my 16th
@joon-bumhan9687 4 жыл бұрын
Abarth: Less electronics = less headache, Mini: lots of electronics = more headache, mechanically both cars are reliable. Trust me I own both.
@akrokdesign 4 жыл бұрын
@@bign3ck how's that a bad thing. I only want people who I trust to work on my car.
@shakur9567 4 жыл бұрын
i dont understand why you would have a different person drive each car - how can they compare them if neither of them drove both cars???
@gregmayled 4 жыл бұрын
The Abarth is a car that you just can’t take too seriously. As if you go in with that mindset, it’s a brilliant little car, and is more refined than you think as a daily
@swiper1818 4 жыл бұрын
Good no punches pulled and informative review guys!👍
@ThisIsBarcode 4 жыл бұрын
Both cool cars but if you’re a hot hatch fan, you really need to own an Abarth at some point!!! Truly special little cars...the Monza exhaust the icing on a quirky Italian cake!!!
@kevinpower9534 4 жыл бұрын
What a fkin load of waffle
@trevordownward4649 4 жыл бұрын
The primary function of the Abarth Sports Button is to add Boost and increase Torque by 12%, say at 3000 rpm, which in turn increases Power by 12% at 3000 rpm. The mass of the Abarth is also only an approximate 1050 kg. Matt Prior should read up in order to understand these figures better before any review is done. I have a Turismo and LOVE IT!
@toddrobertson1398 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to get butt hurt because the mini is better lol
@rossocorsahf 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 595 comp with mechanical LSD, great fun to drive, the high seating position really it's just not what you expect but it doesn't make it bad you get used to it and it gives you a great view of the road when pressing on. The sabelt seats are brilliant, the interior finish is a mix of sublime and cheap standard 500 bits however it doesn't look like a car crash of disjointed bits like almost all moderns, simple wins in my book. Old school car feel, total fun to drive. Incidentally it does have an electronic LSD in standard form like the mini just press the TTC button.
@GoingSidewards 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. Old school feel. Love mine. N/A spec 2014 multi air. Had a 101hp 500 and loved it. The abarth is just so much more special.
@nappiechan9208 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 05 MINI Cooper S JCW for a little over 2 years now and I’ve loved every bit of it. I’ve driven the new one at a MINI sponsored auto cross event and it’s great fun, but I still prefer the analog feel (and the supercharged whine) of my old one. Awesome video!
@RichardADastardly 4 жыл бұрын
I've had my 03 Cooper S for 14 years and every time I think about selling it I just know I'm going to regret the decision. I would miss the electro-hydraulic power assisted steering, the supercharger whine, the diminutive size of it compared to more recent models, the far prettier design...It's not a perfect car, but changing the heavy OEM wheels, tyres and track width made mine far more enjoyable and easier to live with. Let's hope BMW go back to the first generation drawing board for the electric MINI.
@PL-fh8cz 2 жыл бұрын
Same here... I put on a Miltek exhaust, big brakes and stiffer roll bars front & rear. Re-mapped the ECU and it's so much better than the current model which has gone fat & soft.
@prodigy227 3 жыл бұрын
Best and most objective Mini JCW review!! Very good ;-)
@nigelpstreet 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they not mention the price of the JCW (base, and 'as driven')? It's at whole different (and much higher) price point than the Abarth. No doubt a JCW is fun, fast, and well made, but the Abarth is much more than the sum of its parts, and huge fun. Also great for surprising drivers of other fast cars out there - underestimate a Competizione at your peril...
@jonholmzee1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just not enough of them
@chirpywiggins5796 4 жыл бұрын
Having owned both these cars, the JCW is a natural step up.Both are great fun to drive.The JCW has so much low down torque and sounds terrific when you boot it. It is expensive though, given the competition.
@TeacherToolkitDemo 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you punish yourself buying the worst hot hatches in the world 😂
@turbos7780 4 жыл бұрын
Chirpy Wiggins i have the s variant and thing sounds so good for a stock
@davidhayes4814 4 жыл бұрын
These cars are quite different prices, surely. Whilst the Mini JCW is clearly the better car, it’s price puts it in the mix with seriously good competition
@bigmanproductions2756 4 жыл бұрын
Mini is definitely not the better car I’ve had both and still have Abarth with mechanical limit slip differential and it embarrasses many far more expensive cars including BMW and a like, it’s not all about a badge
@ENGBriseB 11 ай бұрын
The JCW is the better car stop being one of the sheep. The flat the door handle will come off in your hand.
@marklancaster6558 4 жыл бұрын
Currently driving an Abarth 595 and just about to get a Mini Copper S Sport. Interesting chat about the two cars here. The Abarth has been an absolute joy to drive. It is the most fun car I have had so based on this I really can't wait to get the Mini this week.
@F4Y541 6 ай бұрын
Lad how's the car going for you? I hope all's well Also HNY 🎉
@peterdurnell3325 4 жыл бұрын
As a MINI owner (F56 Cooper), Abarth definitely has much more character when driving but the rear space is honestly so much bigger in the MINI. More leg room and head room due to the box-like shape. My head actually touches the rear window in the Abarth. Gearbox in MINI has rev-matching and more precise feel for me. Just my thoughts! Hardest decision ever choosing between these.
@peterdurnell3325 4 жыл бұрын
Abarth: more of a sense of occasion to drive/sounds better (my opinion). JCW: everything else.
@KimYewLee 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterdurnell3325 but the build quality of Abarth is rubbish, although is good fun to drive.
@bign3ck 4 жыл бұрын
As some one who worked at Glyn hopkin selling fiat 500s, they are garbage, built to fail, plastic everywhere, unless you mod a 500 stay away.
@turbos7780 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Durnell i have a f56 3 door cooper s im in love with it
@tonytouchz757 2 жыл бұрын
exacly, fiat is just as fun if you have a lower budget. but I feel like the abarth will make you smile out of "its hilarious to drive this lil garbage car and it still sounds really great" and laught at how everything want to break when you do a sharp turn. The mini is just as fun but it as lots more fun details and quality into it. Simply put, fiat is a motorised soapbox build by a child and Mini JCW is a Go-Kart tweaked by a car enthusiast with gadgets
@jep1912 4 жыл бұрын
First car my mate (with me in it) crashed was also a Mini. Straight through a farmer's hedge down a bank into his field. Needless to say my fingernails were embedded into the dash and extracting me from the passenger seat was almost as hard as dragging the lime green 'M' from the green stuff. Great days in Yorkshire 30 years ago.
@milkshakeflake 4 жыл бұрын
My 1st car was/is a mini too
@MrMADjah 4 жыл бұрын
You are comparing 2 very different cars from 2 very different segments and price ranges. Naturally the mini is a superior car in everything, from its power to its chassis and built quality, its much more a drivers car than the abarth. But where the Abarth (competizione) scores Points I think it is on the small things that make him great: the sound of the record monza exhaust is mental, the interior besides the cheap plastics is complemented with the sabelt racing seats made of leather, alcantara and Carbon fiber. There is actually Carbon fiber on the stearing wheel, seats, door sills, dashboard.... the pedals are made of aluminium, the gear knob is made of titanium which involves you even further. There are scorpions everywhere remembering you the character of the car. And 180 bhp on a 1045kg car that looks, sounds and drives like hell, i think that character its What makes it awesome, dispite of its evident flaws.
@turbos7780 4 жыл бұрын
Mário David both are great car and this fiat should be competing against the s variant and not the jcw
@scorpione6928 2 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. I've got my Abarth 595 Competizione with all the options included, premium pack, sports pack, body kit etc. And it is still cheaper than a Mini JCW. These two are two very different cars. I don't think these two can be compared. Nah.
@tonytouchz757 2 жыл бұрын
For trying both I disagree. They are the 2 only car that feels like a go-kart. Both are the "top of the line" product of the brand, im currently hesitating which to buy and similar marketing/branding, the only difference is price, no cars are more similar to them. To me Mini cooper JCW have way more of the "details" as you talk about, the start toggle, racing "song" when putting it in sport mode, JCW brandings everywhere ect... Also both very fun but the mini is EXTREMLY less cheap, fiat is fun but its a litteral plastic junkbox, full of rattle every sharp turn feels like everything is gonna break (its funny and kinda part of the charm). Id say fun wise both are as good, mini is terribly better quality and fun features wise, both are too expensive. Abarth is worth if you get it extremly cheap. Also nowaday's mini are known to be very reliable but fiat are known to be unreliable. To me its a, if you have a tigher budget try to find a cheap abarth, if you got budget, like more refined cars and little details that makes you smile, get the Mini.
@roccosummer1 4 жыл бұрын
Any idea for the mpg on the JCW ? I have the 595 and getting around 39 mpg
@ivydjm8939 4 жыл бұрын
Makes the comparison so much cooler when the colors are this similar.
@joshuafuller2060 4 жыл бұрын
I felt like I watched the whole thing in fast forward!!!
@weed46 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you talked a bit fast, but I really enjoy these more casual videos, keep them coming!
@markahomer 4 жыл бұрын
Just taken delivery of our third brand new Abarth. Like a lot of Italian sporting cars - they eventually get under your skin.
@zIITOASTYIIz 4 жыл бұрын
Just a little shout for anyone looking at getting a mini, a common problem with them is the driver footwell floods if there is heavy rain and water can get trapped under the floor over time and slowly fill up and soak the carpets as you drive... Mine is currently in being drained and the electronics sorted out. 👌🏼 they seem to be built real nice but it's a problem that I've hear happening from 2002 to current models
@Siforce71 4 жыл бұрын
By Judging the comments the Abarth seems to be the best all rounder, despite what these guys are saying. I own an Abarth 595 they are like many others say, smiles per miles. Would highly recommend.👍🏻
@samwilde595 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 595, few simple mods and a remap and you’re golden. I was going for a mini JCW originally but I found them bland and way less special. I’m very pleased with the little fiat 18 months on it’s been 100% reliable with no issues. It’s a 2015 too so not new
@roystinho 4 жыл бұрын
You should have the performance pack for the 595 with the mechanical LSD, makes a big difference in the handling dept. I love mine after 3 years
@CampbellZeroOne 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned both of these cars (all be it a standard spec 500 Abarth) which I traded in against a new JCW. The mini made the Abarth feel very cheap and cheerful by comparison. Everything about it was better except for the price. Don't get me wrong, the wee 500 was a laugh and I enjoyed owning it. But as you said, the steering is too light and vague and the seating position too high, and the plastics too scratchy. The Mini felt rock solid and was a nice place to be in for hours at a time. After a year I had it professionally remapped taking it up to 300bhp and the car only got better. I only wish that I'd ticked the box for adaptive damping, because as you again mentioned, it did feel nose heavy pitched into a tight corner under braking and I think it was probably more pronounced in the standard setup.
@sbaddison 4 жыл бұрын
Those roads are 20 mins from me. My picture was taken there. Great fun.
@jimparry3499 4 жыл бұрын
Squadrone Rosso Where are these roads?
@SumYungGai1 4 жыл бұрын
What road is it?
@sbaddison 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Parry it’s known as the Bwlch Top road, between Treorchy & Bridgend. Part of a brilliant 50 mile loop around South Wales😎
@jimparry3499 4 жыл бұрын
Squadrone Rosso Oh cool! Thanks! 👍🏻 I’ve done the majority of north wales now but not much experience down south. I’ll have to have a look! 👍🏻
@samharper5881 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, mate!
@bigmanproductions2756 4 жыл бұрын
I have also owned both and still have Abarth Comp and can tell you mini is overrated and not a patch on driving enjoyment or handling compared to Abarth although mini has better finish internally (dashboard only,), you drove both cars like a fairy and you cannot Judge either of them the way your driving them push them both and the smiles begin. I’m just glad both cars are no where as dull as you two are they are both good to drive and it’s all about personal preference.
@SumYungGai1 4 жыл бұрын
What road was this filmed on?
@jamesmirfin5660 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my JCW late last year and I really love it. It’s a car that makes me smile. Love the look of the Abarth it’s a very nice thing.
@swanblake 4 жыл бұрын
Love these more affordable car comparisons. Keep them up. I'd personally take the Abarth for the engine note and fun to drive. Not hating on Mini but the Abarth is just something special
@minimanadam 4 жыл бұрын
I live my 04 mini..i have done alot of work and it puts down just over 250hp to the wheels..
@1rtrait 4 жыл бұрын
Owned a F56 S LCI and a 595c and they're completely different cars. Mini is far more grown up, composed, great low down torque but expensive for what it is. The 595 feels like an old school turbo charged hatch; great fun and puts a smile on my face every time I get to drive it. Just a shame the interior has an old school feel too. As a daily the Mini all day long - but as a second car the 595 would be the best choice.
@ValFinale 2 жыл бұрын
this "mini" isn't a mini. its an econobox that looks like one lmao. complete garbage.
@huwjones5879 2 жыл бұрын
Both cars are full of character, and offer more than just 'transport' which is so welcome in a sea of shoulder sagging blandness. If buy either of these and expect practical, efficient, comfy, economical motoring then you have bought the wrong car. Enjoy them while you can, we probably won't see their like again.
@stevegaudreau67 2 жыл бұрын
Though I definitely think the Mini JCW is the top of the line mini, there is always something about them that just doesn't work for me personally. I recently drove a Cooper S and an Abarth 500 (595 Turismo equivalent in the US) and I enjoyed them both but I purchased the Abarth because you just don't see them often
@bernardlatuner5134 2 жыл бұрын
Had several sports cars - 250 to 300 hp - and now owner of an 695 ABARTH RIVALE Cab. "remaped" STAGE 1 and I just love it : the ABARTH is a little bull "you have to train" ! SUCH A FUN ! :-D PS : had also a MINI COOPER S All 4 184 hp but such a heavy dude... ! :-(
@johhnny93 4 жыл бұрын
I love you guys ! But when you get too excited you end up talking at the same time and idk who to listen to :D
@jakebond2294 3 жыл бұрын
Neither of them.
@nellwallace6050 5 ай бұрын
I love my Abarth 595 Competizione it's been modded and is currently 225bhp which is plenty for everyday use. I also have a classic '95 Mini Cooper which is very similar to drive...The both make me smile when I'm behind the wheel 😊 I did look at a 2020 JCW Mini before I bought the Abarth but it didn't make me smile in the same way...
@SChapps 4 жыл бұрын
Sport mode doesn’t just give better throttle response, it actually gives you a lot more boost pressure
@wilsonlaidlaw 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you say the Sport button makes little difference on the Competitione. On my wife's lower powered 140 BHP 595 Abarth, the Sport button makes a very noticeable difference to engine response, to the extent that you always push it before overtaking. The lower powered Abarth is also much better value for money but the rest of the comments were spot on. The earlier painted metal interior finish is nicer than the later version's cheap hard plastic.
@andybroer651 Жыл бұрын
The sport button increases the turbo's boost and torque considerably, it also lowers MPG however on the Abart(h)
@peterlewis3540 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a 595 Competizione for three years, and it was a very entertaining car, but maintenance costs, once the car was out of warranty was always on my mind. The Turbo Boost gauge developed a recurring fault, resulting in three visits to the main dealership. The repair was thankfully undertaken whilst still in warranty, otherwise i would have been £315 out of pocket, as the plastic housing had a hairline crack at its base. I sold the car, and p/x it for a brand new Vw Up Gti, which i know is nowhere near as fast, but more reliable and just as much fun to drive
@che630 Жыл бұрын
I traded in my up GTi for an abarth 595 tourismo. Far more fun to drive. And the heating and infotainment controls on the up is hopeless
@che630 Жыл бұрын
On the up !
@Fly2kill1 4 жыл бұрын
We don’t get the 595 in the US. Would it be worth getting a Abarth used for $12k US and dumping a load of performance upgrades in it? Engine and chassis?
@youngstayoung6633 4 жыл бұрын
Bet the mini had runflats. Itd feel like a different car with normals
@iampineappleonpizza 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you press the sport button in the abarth?
@bkj3845 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should test two similar cars i.e. try two 2.0 litre vehicles, doesn't make sense testing a 1.4 and a 2.0 litre car and expect them to be similar!
@TheFatboyslim61 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of the price of the Mini, l bet there wouldn't be much change of £30,000 ?
@cyclegear1403 4 жыл бұрын
The problem of course, is that all the attributes that they concluded were better with the Mini would still apply for a non-JCW cooper S - which can be specced for the same price or even lesser than the Fiat.
@jasonboyle7203 4 жыл бұрын
Did he no say 23k
@RookieRay 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the mini almost double the price?
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@er1115 4 жыл бұрын
Is this segment to figure out which is the least reliable?
@droneuk 4 жыл бұрын
The BMW Mini is British! Errrrrr?
@milkshakeflake 4 жыл бұрын
Used to be when it was a Morris mini.... Nows it's a German car because its a BMW mini....
@Mouse2113 Жыл бұрын
Something about the Abarth, its so much fun. Despite owning a Renaultsport Megane now I still miss my Abarth. It was more reliable too
@frankiegoestohwood9799 4 жыл бұрын
Both are nice, but more for your money with DS3 performance or ultra prestige
@DavidTapster 4 жыл бұрын
A good video but you guys are missing such a trick not doing speed comparison (0-60, 50+ etc.)
@sixtiesmods 4 жыл бұрын
I love the new Mini Cooper S & JCW bit expensive, But also love 595 Shame it does not have a start button and a funky dash, I drive a 2018 BMW 320i 4dr Auto but it is too big for our drive and I don't need a big car.
@cam_121 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the next Gen mini is smaller. They're just too heavy nowadays. My father owned an R55 clubman Jcw and for me that was and still is the best hot hatch you can buy. 155kw and even though the "official" weight was just over 1100kg, we had my dad's car on the scales and it was under 1100kg. That car handled so well and personally no other hot hatch has a better sound stock than the R55/56 JCW's
@operamatthew 4 жыл бұрын
i too would choose the inferior abarth... actually... i have
@laudenkirk153 2 жыл бұрын
Our family have both. Abarth all day every day
@t5jerry 4 жыл бұрын
looks to me that with the FRONT armrest down , the positioning between armrest and gear lever is bloody awkward !
@geecars6263 4 жыл бұрын
t5jerry In the MINI? I have a quickshift on mine, rest your arm on the armrest and just flick through the gears, perfect
@lyntonsutton7170 2 жыл бұрын
Owned both. Abarth I actually thought had better steering and better front end grip (if you have the LSD fitted), mini is more comfortable and better equipped, but not nearly as much fun. Sound in the Abarth is epic.
@kamsainikamaludin7181 4 жыл бұрын
That centre arm rest is a nuisance actually. I found that you are not comfortable roving the gears thru that tight space.
@laika25 Жыл бұрын
What’s the price tag difference?
@buggybugson624 3 жыл бұрын
Test driving an Abarth as soon as I can
@nikjac79 3 жыл бұрын
Mini & Abarth TOP!!!
@petercavellini3232 4 жыл бұрын
It’s like eves dropping on two guys on a journey, talking about Cars, maybe less banter and more meat to what these cars about...
@keitumetsem1344 4 жыл бұрын
it's a tie for me
@JacobHall1601 3 жыл бұрын
Look in all honesty I’m looking at either a base Abarth or Suzuki Swift Sport, the appeal of the Abarth for me isnt it’s all out capability it’s the fun and character it provides and it by far has the most exotic engine out of most hatches these days and I understand that FCA makes cheap cars but that’s exactly what it’s meant to be, cheap, fun, classic sporty hatch experience
@dafyddllyrdavies6601 Жыл бұрын
Got myself the mini cooper s sport I know the fiesta is faster light weight and the abarth has that personality and noise but just felt for the money the mini just has that more quality feel more solid and the looks sounds pretty good too
@christineayres7199 3 ай бұрын
I chose a Fiat 500 over the Mini countryman that i test drove as the Mini didnt feel exciting to me , it dont look as nice as the 500 and the 500 1.4 engine was more fun than a diesel engine , seen a Yellow Abarth 500 the other day and the exhaust note was amazing like a Metro 6R4 rally car you will get positive attention and people head turning , heck even my standard 500 lounge edition gets compliments , they are very lovely to stare at.
@aussieausdeutschland4245 4 жыл бұрын
I'd take the Fiat any day, but I am biased as I already own a 08 Fiat 500. I used to own a 76 Mini Clubman and I drove a modern "Mini" and I didn't like it. The Fiat though.... It felt like I was driving my old Clubby again and fell in love with Sofia and bought her.
@MA77SP 3 ай бұрын
In Australia the JCW costs from 63K and the Abarth is around 40K.
@suitsyousir1980 Жыл бұрын
How can you compare these cars side by side. They’re in a different class; engine size and price point.
@1seipai 4 жыл бұрын
If it was the last tank of fuel you'd probably have a Renault Clio Sport 182.
@justinchapman2454 4 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a 172 Cup I’d like to say you’re not far off from being right!
@moodindigo3681 4 жыл бұрын
A more objective test would have compared the Abarth Comp. shown (1.4cc, 178bhp) Vs Mini Cooper S (2.0cc, 189bhp). Or, looked at another way: The Mini Cooper JCW shown ( 2.0, 227bhp) Vs Abarth 695 Biposto (1.4cc, 189bhp). Granted the Biposto costs 30K(!) but the JCW base price of £23K is a easily surpassed after adding a few options finishing much nearer the £30k mark!! Me, I compared the two and ended with the 'charmimg' Abarth. Best described as a 'teddy bear with a flick knife.'
@dennisb5319 4 жыл бұрын
The mini is already old hat with the new hot mini on the horizon.
@peterdurnell3325 4 жыл бұрын
Abarth is pretty much an 11-year-old car.
@Lifeguruonafence 4 жыл бұрын
What’s that watch Maro is wearing?
@CharlieboySLONDON 4 жыл бұрын
Casio Calculator watch
@frankiedeuce801 4 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieboySLONDON I was looking in the comments to see if anyone noticed this. Both of you made my day!
@CharlieboySLONDON 4 жыл бұрын
I love the old Retro style watches , my daily is a Gold Casio same as the original black ones.
@Shane-zx4ps 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Wilcox Casio is the new Rolex 🤪
@juanrivero3082 4 жыл бұрын
He he he... Yesterday I pick up my Fiat Lounge. After 17 different car in my life. Ford, Chevrole, Chrysler, Dodge, VW, Volvo... I fell like this one going to be my number one.
@mikecustoms 4 жыл бұрын
owned an abarth almost 4 years and finally got my first mini ever over a month ago, the s model, abarth is more fun to drive, the mini is a better car overrall
@lapamful 4 жыл бұрын
How would a Suzuki Swift measure up here? Obviously well down on power but I can fix that and other issues, and it would still be way more reliable than any of these two.
@voncoconut5293 4 жыл бұрын
Click on settings, click on playback speed, select 0.75 and you'll be able to understand most of the otherwise incomprehensible babble these guys are saying. FFS.
@mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066 4 жыл бұрын
Cocaine is one hell of a drug. 😂
@CarToneHK 4 жыл бұрын
I watch on 1.5x and I regularly watch on 2x
@jord9261 4 жыл бұрын
cartone車臣 oh wow boast about how you’re above humans some more? Nobody cares ☺️
@akrokdesign 4 жыл бұрын
haha. bingo!
@Cocash1 4 жыл бұрын
the abarth has the panda chassis, the seat is too high, and the oval form penalizes it. In general I prefer the Mini Jcw.
@ENGBriseB 11 ай бұрын
The JCW holds it money it's a great car if you dont have a family to run about a great 2nd car ti own.
@kb9072 2 жыл бұрын
One question that wasn't asked is if you had another car for everyday use but wanted a second for fun which would you choose. I suspect alot of Abarth owners have another car, the 595 is just a big toy.
@lubomirstoilov7768 4 жыл бұрын
New generation Mini is something like VW Golf...There is nothing “Mini”,only the name! Yeah,Mini’s engine is good but when you are after small city car with sport feel...Mini is not your choice! Other side is ABARTH! Really small car,sport feel,great sound,smooth engine with Italian character and cheaper than Mini! So...my personal choice...Definitely ABARTH! And yeah,I love my red 595 Turismo
@JonHorgan-hd5wm 3 ай бұрын
Got the mini. 24 plate it flys
@DanRClio 4 жыл бұрын
Have the 17” wheels, not those crap 18’s with Runflats. I never ever sell them with those awful 18’s
@t5jerry 4 жыл бұрын
bloody hell, I know you road tester`s don't earn a fortune, but cant mauro afford a decent pair of jeans !!!!!
@mannyfnsc29 4 жыл бұрын
I own an F56 Cooper S. The older Minis were more fun to drive, especially the R53. My 04 was the most fun you could have driving a car. The newer models (Gen 3) are meant to be more grown up and civilized and they definitely are. Btw, most people buying Minis switch out the runflats, so the "busy ride" comments become more of a moot point. You would never catch me in a Fiat.
@tonytouchz757 2 жыл бұрын
F56 are still very fun (as much as the abarth) and extremly more reliable than the older versions. I would never own a mini made before 2016
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