Minute of Mae: French Chamelot-Delvigne 1873

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Жыл бұрын

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@conneranderson219
@conneranderson219 Жыл бұрын
Weird question but weren’t these the revolvers used by Brendan Frazier’s character in the mummy?
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Sman7290
@Sman7290 Жыл бұрын
Along with his Lebel rifle
@Osok21
@Osok21 Жыл бұрын
Which is a pretty neat attention to detail, since he was a member of the French Foreign Legion.
@angelocaranza3359
@angelocaranza3359 Жыл бұрын
Yes this is the Revolver that he used in first Mummy Movie along side the 1911, Lebel 1886, and Winchester 1897
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography Жыл бұрын
Yep. Double fisted.
@chadrichard6388
@chadrichard6388 Жыл бұрын
I will never pass up a minute of Mae . Really liked your wall gun .
@chadrichard6388
@chadrichard6388 Жыл бұрын
I will never pass up a minute with Mae !
@sharonrigs7999
@sharonrigs7999 Жыл бұрын
I have one converted to .45 ACP I'm not crazy or stupid enough to feed it hardball. I handload lead bullets and download it close to .45 Schofield pressure. These are overbuilt beasts, but still have to be mindful of 1880's metallurgy
@JChan880
@JChan880 Жыл бұрын
I have one converted to .455 Webley. It shoots like it was designed for that round! If only they had done that from the beginning....
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 Жыл бұрын
@@JChan880 Very often, the converted Chamelot were modified by the French Resistance during WW2, as 45ACP or British Webley cartridges, sent in huge quantities by the Allies, were then more readily available than the 1873 ordnance cartridge, and also because the caliber was roughly the same. And it's also true the Chamelot was a very strong revolver, plagued by an underpowered cartridge. But beware of modified ones, as they will sooner or later break, as there's a thinner part on the upper side of the frame
@selmevias1383
@selmevias1383 Жыл бұрын
@@laurentdevaux5617 Because the French gov' back then had too many bills already, so instead of rolling with the far superior 12mm "Marine" version of the Chamelot Delvigne they kept the lackluster 11mm "Army" version, lackluster at range obviously, 180 grains from a .442 bullet @700 FPS isn't something you want to receive center mass from a guy mounted on a horse also wielding a sabre. Cible, a French magazine, made an interesting article on how to adapt any 11mm Chamelot Delvigne into a 12mm Marine one, I made the modification myself and it's quite an upgrade indeed yet the pressure is lower thanks to the proper engineering: 235 grains .450 bullet @825 fps.
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 Жыл бұрын
@@selmevias1383 Quite true, but in fact that's not so simple. The French navy always have been independent from the army and chose its own weapons. The navy was the first to adopt a metallic cartridge revolver, the Lefaucheux 1858, while the army still used the percussion pistol 1822 Tbis until 1873. The navy was also the first to adopt a repetition rifle, the Kropatschek 1878, well before the Lebel though it still fired a black powder cartridge. In 1870, they adopted a new revolver with a powerful cartridge (in 12 mm). They finally switched to the 1873 in 1877 when the army got fully equiped, but still with the 12 mm cartridge, until 1886 when they received 1873 revolvers in the same asthmatic caliber just because the stocks of 12 mm cartridge were all used up and no longer manufactured. A pity indeed as the 12 mm cartridge was much better than the 11 mm. And also a proof that the 1873 revolver could withstand more powerful cartridges...
@selmevias1383
@selmevias1383 Жыл бұрын
@@laurentdevaux5617 Thanks for the clarifications. Mais j'ai bien peur de déjà être au courant! Je vous invite à lire l'article de John C.Frost dans le magazine "Cibles" numéros 358, il a un article sur le chargment 1873/2000 que j'utilise sur mes Chamelot Delvignes 1873, il faut hélas joué de l'alésoir (un sacrilège pour certains) mais les résultâts sont présents!
@JChan880
@JChan880 Жыл бұрын
These are quite popular in Canada, usually converted to .455 webley or .45 ACP, because we're running out of options.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
And that 11mm French Ordnance is no longer manufactured.
@gijoe508
@gijoe508 Жыл бұрын
If I’m not mistaken Brendan Frasier uses two in The Mummy
@fhorst41
@fhorst41 3 ай бұрын
Correct. And I'm mildly obsessed with that gun roll he whips out onto the table aboard the boat.
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 Жыл бұрын
I like this revolver, and as always thank you so much Mae.
@09stoneheart
@09stoneheart Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend having two of these if you plan to read a black book conveniently hidden in a booby trapped statue.
@user-tx9ls2nh6o
@user-tx9ls2nh6o Жыл бұрын
Отличный для своего времени револьвер. А слабый патрон можно было заменить на 45 кольт)))
@catyear75
@catyear75 Жыл бұрын
Love this pistol ! Bring it on , Mummy !
@dp-sr1fd
@dp-sr1fd Жыл бұрын
Beautifully engineered, you can take them apart very easily as a small lever depresses the spring which allows you to take the mechanism apart.
@BrockvsTV
@BrockvsTV Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@josefroland3515
@josefroland3515 Жыл бұрын
Díky Mae. 👍
@tacituskilgore5372
@tacituskilgore5372 Жыл бұрын
So cool, i hope some time Mae fires a lafaucheux "officier" M1858 revolver or the lefaucheux M1864/98, they were old but they are classic pieces of art
@ommsterlitz1805
@ommsterlitz1805 Жыл бұрын
Lefaucheux*
@tacituskilgore5372
@tacituskilgore5372 Жыл бұрын
@@ommsterlitz1805 thanks pal
@ommsterlitz1805
@ommsterlitz1805 Жыл бұрын
@@tacituskilgore5372LefaUcheux
@tacituskilgore5372
@tacituskilgore5372 Жыл бұрын
@@ommsterlitz1805 thanks again
@rgbgamingfridge
@rgbgamingfridge Жыл бұрын
le four show
@brianfoster4434
@brianfoster4434 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@notnowchief.3089
@notnowchief.3089 Жыл бұрын
Yay a min of Mae ❤
@brandonkibbey2
@brandonkibbey2 Жыл бұрын
I now know what the little pocket on my jeans is for! 😂
@clearcreek69
@clearcreek69 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was for storing washed matchbooks that we forgot to take out of our jeans.
@ryanthorne5432
@ryanthorne5432 Жыл бұрын
Commenting to help persuade KZfaq to pay Mae and Othias.
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 Жыл бұрын
So am I. This is one of the favorite minutes of the week.
@cplassen2138
@cplassen2138 Жыл бұрын
I've watched your entire Minute of Mae series and love them. Every word is chosen carefully, and delivers maximum information in short order. Absolutely great. The camera work is also great. Some of those angles make an old guy like me slightly uncomfortable with the lens so close to the muzzle. Well done and I'm going back through every one of them to give them a like. One thing though...I'm left wondering about that wrap-around trigger finger technique. Every time I see that, my brain is annoyingly saying in the background, "High. And to the right. High. And to the right." Does that method really work for you? If it does, how do you overcome the biomechanics? My hands shake like a leaf, so I need to anticipate weird breath-holding and timing to get good accuracy, but I manage it. I get that unorthodox techniques work for some people. How does that finger curl work for you?
@noahbianchi1920
@noahbianchi1920 Жыл бұрын
Yes but the “Single Action” was the Colt 1873 which is still a favorite for many.
@LatinFR
@LatinFR Жыл бұрын
His amunition was superior to the chamelot delvigne but in term of mecanic work the chamelot delvigne is better
@kevinforget549
@kevinforget549 Жыл бұрын
@@LatinFR you can also increase the power of the 1873 11mm round substantially since they can take 15000psi. basically you can safely push 200 foot pounds vs the original 71ftp or the 140ftp when they updated the round in the round in 1890.
@LatinFR
@LatinFR Жыл бұрын
@@kevinforget549 I’m french so we use metric system here i will convert all of that. Thanks for the tips my dude.
@paulbervid1610
@paulbervid1610 Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@bob-fs1ue
@bob-fs1ue Жыл бұрын
I love Minute of Mae
@rkirschner7175
@rkirschner7175 Жыл бұрын
The Mummy. ❤🙏👍
@Lomi311
@Lomi311 Жыл бұрын
I’m Chameloving it!
@manfredpf6017
@manfredpf6017 Жыл бұрын
Always wondered what the little pocket in my jeans was for.
@blank557
@blank557 Жыл бұрын
Want. Mae is the ultimate firearms saleslady. Now if I only had the money to buy those exotic guns she demonstrates on the videos...*sigh*.
@douglasfrompa593
@douglasfrompa593 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be cool to make the ending blend seamlessly with the beginning so we could loop the video?
@jorgechalub8930
@jorgechalub8930 Жыл бұрын
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 Жыл бұрын
Good video Mae, not a fan of French firearms, but you made it shine.
@vinnyj4897
@vinnyj4897 Жыл бұрын
Mae I Love So Much Your Magical Smile In Final!:)
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 Жыл бұрын
Hail old wheel guns !
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
Where do you find all these obsolete and exotic cartridges?
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB Жыл бұрын
They make them
@jonh101
@jonh101 Жыл бұрын
@@LadyAnuB making them does sound easier than scouring the internet for them
@gratefulguy4130
@gratefulguy4130 Жыл бұрын
They panhandle with an alms bowl. You can see them out every night in their home town, asking you to please spare a bit of some exotic ammunition.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
@@gratefulguy4130 Thank you.
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
@@LadyAnuB Thank you.
@pcysneros
@pcysneros Жыл бұрын
I found one in my attic... How much are these worth? I was going to polish it and keep it if it's not worth much
@dgundeadforge17
@dgundeadforge17 Жыл бұрын
What is rough fps of this, a lot of these older revolvers had fat but short cases.
@everhanson6598
@everhanson6598 Жыл бұрын
So...this is what love feels like.
@munkbok
@munkbok 11 ай бұрын
I've seen some of these in 45acp
@chaserobinson4315
@chaserobinson4315 11 ай бұрын
This was a great revolver I’m not gonna lie. But the problem with this was the round it fired. It was a big hefty 11mm round but the downfall of it was that it used black powder in the cartridge so it didn’t really go fast. The fps was only around 350 to 425 so you could hit the target, but the bastards wouldn’t always go down.
@cheesenoodles8316
@cheesenoodles8316 Жыл бұрын
Cool.
@williwonti
@williwonti Жыл бұрын
Who doesn't love getting Minute Mae'd?
@user-vs8yu9fy2c
@user-vs8yu9fy2c Жыл бұрын
Mae, please tell me what kind of knife is in your pocket?
@WalterBurton
@WalterBurton Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@Lavthefox
@Lavthefox Жыл бұрын
I wondered why I wasnt seeing your videos., KZfaq unsubbed me. Figures...
@thecount5558
@thecount5558 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely curious on this one, but other than a more potent cartridge... what other advantages could the Colt SAA have possessed against the Chamelot Delvigne? It seems to me that the Chamelot Delvigne was simpler than the Colt, just as reliable, easier to fix, and had the benefit of being a double/triple action revolver. You also loaded both revolvers the same way but I suppose the Colt SAA was a tad bit smoother to operate? (I'm no firearms expert, by the way, so I'm just going off what I've read and heard about both revolvers)
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 Жыл бұрын
You're totally right, in fact the Chamelot had much more advantages than the SAA, in particular it fires in double action, it is really easier to fix (and to disassemble, with the tip of the cylinder rod, who can also be used as a screwdriver) and most, its springs are much more strong than the ones of the American gun, known to be rather fragile. And overall, it's a very strong, very well made and reliable revolver, so strong that some were converted in 45 ACP by the French resistance during WW2. It is also still very popular among shooters in France. But anyway, the Colt had an enormous advantage against the French revolver : its cartridge, really much more powerful. The French 1873 never had enough stopping power, even after the new, more powerful cartridge was adopted in 1890 (and not in 1914, sorry Mae). By the way, the 1873 finish is polished, in the white, and not blued (only the 1874 version for officers was)
@thecount5558
@thecount5558 Жыл бұрын
I've read around the Internet that the 11mm cartridge for the Chamelot Delvigne was indeed quite underpowered... but perhaps it's only considered underpowered because people view the cartridge with more modern and potent cartridges in mind? Perhaps taking a look at the historical context and comparing the 11mm Ordnance with other European cartridges (.450 Adams, .442 Webley, 12mm Lefaucheux, .380 etc.) of the time, it would have been considered as an... adequate cartridge, not too weak but not too strong either. Or perhaps it really was underpowered even by the standards in Europe in the 1870s... (I do consider .32 ACP as perfectly adequate for self-defence so I may or may not have a bit of bias towards these "low-powered" cartridges. (Also, would there be any more data of the velocity and energy of the 11mm that aren't from the ones shown in Wikipedia?)
@marksommers6089
@marksommers6089 Жыл бұрын
France DID Have " Standardized" Firearms, Long-Guns, and Handguns, But they were " Muzzleloaders" , From another Time in History ........... Anyway, Great Vids!
@johngulyas695
@johngulyas695 Жыл бұрын
Mae! Mae! Mae!
@desert_jin6281
@desert_jin6281 Жыл бұрын
Neat
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ Жыл бұрын
I definitely get the impression from these vids that 90% of European revolvers and automatics up to the Luger were balanced like a brick on a thin flexible stick. This detracts from a lot of their usefulness compared to the Colt SAA even when they have superior loading, unloading, cartridge, quality, and production features.
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 Жыл бұрын
Quite right. I also think, though I'm French, that the Colt SAA is a much more elegant, handier gun. But if I had to choose a revolver on which I could rely in the hardest situations, I would surely prefer the Chamelot. If you keep it clean and take care of it, it will never let you down. I'm quite sure the Colt won't be as reliable, though its cartridge is definitely better
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this channel has had any issues recently like other gun channels have had. If not, is it because all the firearms featured here are very old?
@basitkhan4241
@basitkhan4241 Жыл бұрын
I am Pakistani I like your video very much
@captainvladmir7535
@captainvladmir7535 Жыл бұрын
I can't watch one of these without really wanting to smell that 'just fired an old gun' scent.
@salvadorsempere1701
@salvadorsempere1701 Жыл бұрын
If youput the speed at .9, you get 6 extra seconds of May!!
@jameson7276
@jameson7276 Жыл бұрын
Something something Mummy Brendan Frasier
@nicholasmessina6406
@nicholasmessina6406 5 ай бұрын
Rick Occonels revolver of choice
@larry1824
@larry1824 Жыл бұрын
Well looks business like
@Pcm979
@Pcm979 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Camelot DeLorean.
@SHADOWACTUAL
@SHADOWACTUAL Жыл бұрын
Nice weapon. Now NO ONE wake up Imhotep again. I know he’s in Hell, but just don’t!
@impliedtomato8760
@impliedtomato8760 Жыл бұрын
Odd looking pistol, still like it
@josephdriesenga2730
@josephdriesenga2730 Жыл бұрын
Patreon is actively preventing me from pledging to you guys.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal Жыл бұрын
How?
@josephdriesenga2730
@josephdriesenga2730 Жыл бұрын
@@Candrsenal I went to update my payment method and it allowed it to go through for another creator but denied for you guys, then several more times when I tried to update it.
@catursyarif1330
@catursyarif1330 Жыл бұрын
Hi....🖐️
@cazou7944
@cazou7944 Ай бұрын
Very good revolver, more interesting than colt..
@thetexasrat
@thetexasrat Жыл бұрын
Still waiting on the 1911 ... ... ...
@chadrichard6388
@chadrichard6388 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mae ! How about an 1897 winchester shotgun !
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
They already made a video on that.
@Sman7290
@Sman7290 Жыл бұрын
I still don't have one.
@pcysneros
@pcysneros Жыл бұрын
I'll sell you one..
@gratefulguy4130
@gratefulguy4130 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but our single action was the Colt SAA..
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
Ah I see, you like target shooting.
@MarkAndrewEdwards
@MarkAndrewEdwards Жыл бұрын
Yeah, speaking of the US adoption of 1873....
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 Жыл бұрын
Perfect for anti-Mummy use.
@Gunsbeerfreedom87
@Gunsbeerfreedom87 Жыл бұрын
Give brass.
@illicitaction3862
@illicitaction3862 Жыл бұрын
First!
@merlinwizard1000
@merlinwizard1000 Жыл бұрын
18th, 26 January 2023
@lesliealexander5600
@lesliealexander5600 Жыл бұрын
pewpewpew
@josephgioielli
@josephgioielli Жыл бұрын
And the SA America adopted is still being made to this very day. Unlike that piece of crap.
@seethebutter
@seethebutter Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
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