Yes, he's driving very well with what he has access to. I would be too stressed to either try to push the right foot through the floor or by constantly need to keep away.

Probably annoyed the Prius, though.

Exactly what I was thinking! Gotta admit it sound hella horrible tho hahahah

But it's not. It's more interesting than a traditional CVT.

@@toyotaprius79 What do you mean?

@@qwertz4035 didn't see your reply. It's a "planetary gear set" like a Ford Model T transmission, or an old school pencil sharpener. With only three parts; an outer ring gear - powered by the big electric motor driving the wheels, a planetary gear set that spins inside the ring gear powered by the engine, and a central sun gear controlled by the small electric motor - the combination of all 3 let's the Prius do what it does. It can generate (⚡) and use (🔋⛽) two different energy sources in multiple ways. The small electric motor not only generates electricity from the engine, it can instantly set the gear ratio of the engine at any speed (even as a reverse gear). For such a complex yet simple and fascinating gearbox in the Prius - it had often been over looked or willingly dismissed

But it doesn't even have one. It's a planetary gearbox, like a Ford Model T.

@Be Low Below yup, it's a eCVT.

Toyota HSD can be considered a type of Cvt, but it is not like the common variable belt type cvt.

The trick for this is keep the right foot all the way pushed through the floor and left foot brake

🤣

Wide open throttle for so much of the lap! Cars I learned to drive in were old/not much power, but fun to drive and you could do a lot within the speed limit :)

It sure doesn't like being driving like that, but at normal speeds, driven normally, it's actually very good. I've had my gen 2 prius for 10 years now, best car I've ever had.

It's not a CVT, it's a planetary gear set.

@@Oockeshoek It's even more than that, with two integrated motor-generators, but functionally I'd say it's a form of CVT.

@@SolarWebsite yeah, everything is attached to the planetary gear set. It’s a really clever system (I even got classes about it at uni)

Not a CVT

Do it and do a lap with Misha so we can all enjoy it !!!

This needs to happen!

YES

@@MrTchou Dont know if he will sit next to someone who only knows the 'Ring from the Sim even though the car won't be faster than 160kph.

@@churchi1338 that was my case.

It only has 99 PS (140 with electro) so it doesn’t matter.

I can prove that, i'm the co-driver... 😋🤣

What braking points? 😅

@@perwestermark8920 Recuperation points XD

The gearbox an the way it looks lol qn interior is horrible. They're just not a great car in general

@@Jacobtheunwise But the hate is less about owning one and more about their existence in general. Also, CVT was a victim of a few bad implementations and bad timing with the ICE->electric switchover. Theoretically it's the ideal form of gearbox. Even F1 had to ban it.

The "gearbox" is basically the most reliable transmission in a passenger car on the market, maybe ever. No clutching, no synchros, no fluid changes...

I passed 2 track cars and a Type R civic. ;-)

The 1nz-fxe in the old Prius is a version of the 1nz-fe which can go to more rpm. The Prius throttle body only goes 60% open max and 5000 rpm limited according to my scan tool

I tried… first lap we were 4 in the car and Battery was ded at Sabine Schmitz Kurve… ;-)

Bruh

Shhh. Let people enjoy things.

The original gen II hood is already aluminium, and wheels are magnesium, how much weight do you expect to save ?

@@MrTchou As much as we can, we aren't planning on doing much to the engine so we're hoping to basically go full lotus with it. The Enkei J10 wheels we have on it now already shaved a few pounds off the wheels but honestly we want the Advans for fun as much as we want to go even lighter

He definitely would go Multipla.

@@MiGujack3 i’d say 1000tipla even.

Both are horrible

@@aussieausdeutschland4245 it's fun to drive terrible cars, though!

Haha I miss the days when top gear wasn't arse pie

They'd make sure that was the outcome, wouldn't they? Top Gear (or... was) funny, but I'd take any "information" they presented with a large 50kg bag of salt.

@@SolarWebsiteTrue true

Is that why it was so slow? Ive driven one an it was way faster than this one lol

@@Jacobtheunwise don't trust the petrol heads to give a Prius a fair shake.

It was torture. The sharp braking and lack of momentum offered no regen or engine charge. When it gets to 0-1 bar, that's when you're stuck with 75PS

​@@Jacobtheunwise the prius was designed assuming most of your driving is at partial power. Highway holding steady at 65, or city streets at 40 for example. That's very easy to do for a 70hp engine, so it can spend a little extra power to recharge the batteries for the next acceleration. Going full throttle though forces the ECU to pull power from the battery until there's nothing left, and you're already asking the max out of the engine, it has none to spare to recharge the battery.

Absolutely. Keeping momentum is more rewarding than driving with both pedals at the same time.

I have a program on a pc that access way more data than what the energy monitor shows you, i guess next time i come there i’ll bring it with me.

@@MrTchou could you write the name of this software?

@@AlekR3 Hybrid Assistant on android with a good ODB dongle . You can find the list of the most adapted ODB dongle on the devs blog . It's possible to log all the powertrain and brakes datas .

@@ludovicbon5903 thank You, my mum will buy a hybrid So i will use IT in her Car.

@@AlekR3Prius Can monitor, it was written by a Japanese guy, runs on windows XP only, gets a lot of data, one guy from a french prius forum translated it to french, he gave it to me. i don’t recall if it’s opensource but he had the green light from the japanese dev to give it for free.

Brisk across paddocks and dirt. 2cv probably faster than a Prius in those situations haha

ive always thought the prius was cool besides how slow they are. i mean if teslas can be fast and a prius has less battery weight and a hybrid powertrain instead imagine how fast a prius would be with faster motors. maybe tune the engine to give a little more power too.

@@rabbitdrink that would defeat the purpose of a city car like the Prius is.

@@mastex5575 yeah, but in my taste the prius has too little power even in the city.

@@mastex5575 look up RAV4 PRIME

What a symphony though. Thing literally held 5000rpm the whole lap. Sounded like a weed whacker.

That’s why i got it, cheaper than my 60 hp polo 6n, more powerful, less noisy (on normal use it is) and way more comfortable on long haul journeys.

First-gen CVT, it's just like one big gear, modern cvts simulate gears now, more natural of a sound as it accelerates.

@@gpaje Stupid cvt:s simulate gears. Not all of them. If you are going to have a constantly variable transmission, its stupid to not constantly vary the gears.

@@banaana1234 They all do it now. They simulate shifts, but still have the constant gear when cruising, apparently the simulated gears doesn't reduce efficiency that much. They usually have an "Eco" mode, which removes the simulated shifts.

​@@gpaje None of Toyota's hybrid eCVTs do that, you know what you're buying them for. If you want to simulate gear shifts, wiggle your accelerator

​@Appletank8 makes sense, their gas ones continue to however.

Braking with hybrids utilizes the electric motor as a generator, simultaneously recharging the battery and slowing down the car.

But at that point there is no need for a cvt if you aren’t going to use the technology correctly

@@NatedoGP I think they stated the simulated shifts don't negatively effect the efficiency that much, the single rpm thing is only part of what makes CVTs efficient. Also, most of them also have an Eco mode, which pretty much removes the simulated shifts. The full efficiency is still there should you choose it, but still pretty efficient regardless compared to traditional autos.

@@gpaje But it affects the performance. When the cvt keeps the car in max power all the time, it accelerates faster.

@@banaana1234 Yeah, I'm not sure how it works, but the engineers who program probably know what they are doing. Most CVT equipped cars aren't sports cars it should be noted. Though as I mentioned, they can easily revert to no simulated shifts depending on the driving conditions.

It's not a traditional CVT transmission, Prius has an eCVT transaxle, that works with a motor-generator: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jbJpfMJ-sdCVkas.html

I guess something between 7 and 10 liter per 100 kilometer.

@@patricknintemann924 maybe. I've driven at 150-181km/h for over an hour in a Prius once. Average fuel consumption was 6.6/100km It was nice

@@toyotaprius79 That's impressive. I would have assumed more consumption. I thought the hybrid system only really saves fuel in the city. because the engine turns off when you are stoped and the electric motor gets you going. Thats when a normal car wastes the most fuel. In stop and go traffic.

​​@@patricknintemann924It's still a very efficient engine, though it's true that the hybrid system doesn't do much while holding steady. The idea behind a hybrid system is that it allows you to undersize an engine. An small engine working harder is generally more efficient than one being choked off through the throttle plate. Anytime you need more power, the electric motor can boost you through. Whenever you don't need the extra power, the ECU can move the engine load into a more efficient zone to recharge the batteries. Cars without hybrids need a much more powerful engine in order to cover every possible situation on its own, and is oversized for steady state. Which is why they only start to become efficient at highway cruising, where you're working the engine more. Eco-turbos are utilizing the same logic. You can undersize an engine for steady state, and spool up the turbo when you need more power. Though it's obviously less flexible since it can't bank excess energy

But this is not the ultimate in battery performance. The Prius has a small battery and is only using maybe 50% of the battery capacity (to reduce aging and to be able to keep the same performance in a 10 year old car as a new, since the lost capacity comes from the reserved oart and not from the end-user capacity) Different cars are designed for different needs, and a big top speed was not part of the goal for the Prius. It's like riding in an old car from former East Germany and use as reference for what a petrol car is capable of.

@@perwestermark8920 Prius top speed is actually limited to 170 kph due to MG1 (Motor Generator 1) rotation speed. On the autobahn it goes up to that speed without a sweat and stays there, fuel use at that speed is about 6L/100km. On the Lexus GS450h for example they overcome the MG1 max speed by adding a 2 speed gearbox.

It’s not dead yet, passed 249000km on the way back home, soon engine break-in will be over.

@@MrTchou Glad to hear that!

Good comment

I think they could make an exception for a lap time from this car - it isn't exactly stressing around the track 😃

I didn’t time it but fuel was about 9L/100km on the lap

@@MrTchou Normal city driving numbers for my 1.6 petrol Megane. 😂

I timed the lap from the video BTG was 11:54

@@MrTchou not bad for flat out

It feels like it too when your engine is redlined at 70mph...

(usually when climbing a mountain)

​@@FawfulDiedIt's good that the rev limit is set so low on this engine

They won't, that's the difference with most other cars....

I guess something between 7 and 10 liter per 100 kilometer.

When this car was new top gear did a test where they drove the Prius flat out around a track and an M3 was just keeping up results: Prius 18mpg M3 19mpg

Top Gear modified the Robin to roll more easily for content, so I wouldn't put much stock into their results.