Happy to help!

Tour is razor thin, made for pros, no pros play the 2x3s. Tour was originally made for Koepka.

@@CoryLancasterYTive had the 900 and 921 tours and love them. It’s just the long irons I struggle with when I’m not swinging as well but I wouldn’t say they’re razor thin. Def easier to hit than blades. It’s just interesting I never see a comparison with the tours vs the 223/243. I also bought the 921 before the 223 came out.

the Mizuno Pro and JPX lines "leap frog" each other in terms of forgiveness if I remember correctly. 241 > JPX Tour > 243 > JPX forged > 245 > other JPX clubs. JPX forged and 245 are very similar clubs, main difference is 245 is hollow body

@@LegacyAirTechthanks! I love the tours but I’m only confident from 7i thru p. I struggle on off days with the long irons. Prob going to switch to the 243

Thanks for the kind words! Being outside is a plus for sure and imo super important when testing clubs. What irons are you currently gaming?

243'a are such a solid iron. I agree, feel + forgiveness is exactly the way I'd describe them. All you can really ask for imo!

Didn't try the 241 but the 243 short irons are very stout chunks of solid forged goodness. And the long irons feel the same. What an achievement by Mizuno.

Thanks much Brent! Is there anything specific you’d like to see in terms of testing/reviews for 2024?

@@TheEquipmentJunkie I enjoy the comparison videos especially from better players - whether that be similar clubs across different brands or even like you mentioned briefly in this video comparing a blade to a players club with more forgiveness - maybe see how many greens you hit with a T100 vs your blades or even vs i230? Also, like this video and several before it, doing reviews on new products or new product families is always appreciated. Some ideas for the future: maybe create some kind of power ranking system for club sub-categories with a point system (forgiveness, feel, turf interaction, etc. as metrics). Have a category for blades (P7MB type), player cavity backs (P7MC type), player forgiveness (P770 type), player distance (P790 type), etc. You could potentially track this over the years and update a spreadsheet for ranking these clubs which could also track improvements over time, occasionally coming back to re-test the previous years' kings of the sub-category to see how the new stuff stacks up. Also, if you have fitting experience, educating people on shaft profiles, weights, stiffness, etc can be interesting.

@@brentjones6019 Fantastic response Brent and some great ideas here!! I’m going to work through this and see what I can come up with in terms of content. Thanks for the help/support!

Appreciate the support Kevin! 245's are a really solid iron and probably one of my favorite hollow body designs of the last few years. Which shafts are you gaming in your 245's?

@@TheEquipmentJunkie I was custom fit into the modus 105 regular flex.

Modus 105 is a fantastic product, Nippon makes great stuff!

Kevin , you still enjoying 245? I'm currently in i230s and miss forged

@@Foregrlz go with the Mizuno 245 irons. The Pings are good. The Mizuno’s are better

Thanks Daniel! Hey I mean at some point you only live once and when you hit those 241's out of the center, it makes it all worth while imo 🙌

Oh yeah? Have you seen the Mizuno Pro Masters Edition? Brings a tear just thinking about them.

@@webbdelasteve True! Those are something special, for sure.

how are you liking them? im a 12 handicap and im stuck between the 245s and the 241s

Appreciate the kind words! Hoping I can test the 243's bent weak here soon, absolutely could be💰

4-5-6(?) in 243 bent soft and 241’s 7-8-9-p Gapping should/could be playable.

@@golfbike Gapping would likely be no issue. Only thing that concerns me is getting the offset and bounce to stay progressive. It’s likely not a big deal, but I tend to me OCD about that stuff and would personally want to test it before making a decision.

Happy to see this review outside and on grass.

@@golfbike Glad you enjoyed! More to come 👍

Thanks as always Scott! WITB is coming soon both on here and Instagram, so you'll see what I am currently gaming shortly! That said, I'm considering putting the 241's in a head to head test vs. the Srixon Z-Forged II here on KZfaq... Is that a video you'd like to see?

@@TheEquipmentJunkie I’ll be your caddy…

Yessir, about time tracers were added! 245 UT could be a sneaky weapon for sure 🤧

Go with Fli-Hi instead!

@@CoryLancasterYT 👀

Love it! Thanks David!

I have a set of 919 tours. Nice irons. But they are not 241’s. Tried the 923 Toura nice but the offset was a little too much for me.

Appreciate it!

Thanks much! Appreciate the support 🙌

243's are Cash! I love the little bit of help they offer in the longer clubs without being a hollow body design.

Love that setup!

@@TheEquipmentJunkie honestly doing it also for a gapping session to match my new vokeys at 50 54 58

@@Fitter4life Now we’re talking! So important, and very overlooked, to get everything dialed in gapping wise.

Thanks for the comment John! New video drops tomorrow where I build out my ultimate combo iron set using the ENTIRE current Mizuno players irons lineup, so stay tuned for it!! That said, I think I'm going to film a Mizuno Pro 241 vs. Srixon Z-Forged II Blade Battle video! Is this something you'd like to see?

Yes! I just saw those the other day and they look like a great and possibly more forgiving blade. Looking forward to it!!

I don’t find the 919 Tours all that great thru the turf. Actually they get pretty stuck in the PW and short irons. I still have sets of MP 33 and 69’s almost new. The MP 33 is an awesome iron!

Also in the bag are 5-PW Miura TC 201’s! So, that says a lot for the MP 241’s that I think are fantastic! There is a pre worn leading edge in the TC 201’s. They don’t get stuck. The old JPX 900 had the same leading edge.

I would say, specifically in the long clubs, the 245 just allows you to have a wider shot pattern across the face and get away with it (in terms of land angle/carry). A good idea for you could be to blend the 243 and 245, (I was considering this also). That said, I would definitely test both before making any decisions; Additionally, don’t be scared of bending weak to hit the launch/spin numbers that are optimal for your game. This is very common practice, especially for a high-end forging like Mizuno.

@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thanks very much for the advice! I will indeed try both, and I will also consider getting the lofts adjusted. After 20 years, it's high time to replace my trusty MX-20s!

I absolutely think it's a possibility. That said, and as you mentioned, the HMP is stronger lofted than the 245 so you may lose a hair of distance; But on the contrary, you will likely pick up some height which imo is worth the tradeoff. In terms of the forgiveness, it really just depends on how comfortable you are with finding the center of the face. You can definitely get away with some heel and toe strikes with the 245's, but if you really struggle to find center decently often then the HMP may be a better option.

Those sound like some crazy conditions! I actually just made a new video where I build out a Mizuno 240/JPX combo set, so definitely recommend checking it out! Cool idea could be adding a 3 iron into the rotation to keep under the wind. Let me know what you think of the video and hopefully it helps answer that question 🙌

For everybody! Offset is for moving the ball left and higher. Just the opposite of what a good player wants.

We seniors need spin to get and keep the ball elevated. Shafts can have a minor effect on trajectory. But it still helps some.

I would definitely consider the 245 more forgiving than the 243. That said, I think if you are comfortable with a smaller shape and find the center more than the heel/toe, then the 243 is very playable in the long clubs. To me it becomes more so a question of height and distance control on the mis-hit's With the 245 I think (at the same loft) it is gives you more height and distance than the 243 on a mis-hit which is really important in your longer clubs imo. Me personally, I was considering a 245/243 combo set with 245 in the 4/5i and 243 6-PW all bent 1-2* weak. This would give me a hair of help in the longer clubs and then more control in the shorter ones which, on paper, sounds like a darn near perfect set. I'm comfortable with my ball-striking, but finding the center is always difficult with a 4/5 iron in a smaller head and I think the 245 just offers a bit more help which I do really like.

Just get a FliHi 4i, forgiveness is highly overrated except at the far ends of the spectrum. Speed and desired flight should drive iron selection mostly!

@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thanks for the response, that’s what I currently play in 223/225 and will probably do the same with the new set. Appreciate the great content!

@@rickbautista2593 Happy to help!

Really depends what you need! Both are great heads but they perform differently. 241 requires precise control over low point and strike point but imo offers the most consistency and control. 245 doesn't require as much precision, but on the contrary doesn't offer quite as much ability to manipulate curve/ball flight. The 243 is nice because it pretty much sits right in the middle, have you had a chance to test those?

Also curious about this, and feel!

Guys I have 0317T and 225’s and the 225’s are much much more forgiving and feel softer/muted with strikes overall. The 0317T when hit right on the sweet spot nothing feels like it. So I’m guessing the 245’s vs 0317T be similar to what I described above.

Thanks for the kind words Scott! I would say they are actually relatively comparable overall, just in slightly different packages. The 245 plays with a bit less bounce than the 0317T's, which is something to consider. Feel wise, it's close but I think I would give the edge to the 0317T's. They just don't feel hollow to me at all, which is really impressive for a players distance iron. Forgiveness wise, I think I would give the edge to the 245's, especially in the longer clubs. Looks wise, I prefer the 0317T's in the shorter clubs, but the slightly thicker look of the 245's in the longer clubs. Overall it's genuinely quite close and just depends what you are looking for. I would really recommend testing both before making a decision.

Appreciate the feedback. Sounds like a true pillow fight no pun intended. Great site.@@TheEquipmentJunkie

Think it just really depends what you are looking for. 241’s will pretty simply be more demanding in terms of ball striking compared to the T100’s. Additionally the height on good strikes but also mis-hits will be a factor to consider, with T100’s likely to be a bit higher launching. Lastly, T100 plays with very low bounce in my experience, whereas the 241 sits in that more mid-bounce category. That said, the T100 is a wider soled club vs a narrower sole in 241. I personally prefer the 241 in the short clubs, but appreciate the forgiveness of something like a T100 styled club later in the set.

@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thank you!

I think the 243 would definitely be your best bet in the Mizuno lineup and T150 in terms of the Titleist lineup 👍

@@TheEquipmentJunkie appreciated!

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I absolutely think you could combo the 243/245's. In fact I was thinking about doing it myself because, on paper, it sound like the ideal blend of distance and control. From my understanding LD plays his 245's bent a few degrees weak to get the launch and spin in a window closer to where he was with the 221's. That said, it really is shocking to me he is playing the 245's thru his full set and not combo'ing, especially considering he came from blades previously. My initial thought is that the X100 iron shaft's are something he doesn't want to switch; And as he's gotten older/lost some speed, rather than going to a lighter shaft he felt it would be better to move to a higher launching head.

@@TheEquipmentJunkie awesome thank you

iBlades are a class iron! The new Blueprint S definitely has my attention though as a potential successor… Have you tested/considered the new BPS at all?

Delofting by one degree would increase offset and decrease bounce a bit. Given that the increased bounce is a big selling point of this new line that would be an unfortunate consequence.

Was thinking about this today actually. 245's bent 1-2 weak in the 4/5 and 243's bent 1-2 weak in the 6-PW sound absolutely sick imo.

​@@TheEquipmentJunkie would it not bother you at home different they look if blended?

@@TheEquipmentJunkie This would be a no brainer if Mizuno made the 243 for lefties. Shocked they chose to make 241 lefty instead of 243.

I haven't measured it in a while, to be fair, but on Trackman I want to say in the 93-96 mph range.

I would say this is more off a sponsor/money thing then performance.