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Model A won't start. Always something! What's wrong?

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Outdoors with Cam

Outdoors with Cam

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Model A will crank but won't start. How to find a short. Blown fuse. Model A electrical troubleshooting. electrical short circuit troubleshooting. How to troubleshoot a Ford Model A that won't start. Electrical Issues - How to Troubleshoot a Ford Model A. How To Find Electrical Shorts. Model A rotten wires. Fixing a Ford Model "A" ignition and lighting system. #modela

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@joostderidder
@joostderidder 2 ай бұрын
Nice vid. I really think that it's time to rewire entirely. Those connections and the state of the old wires is something asking for troubles.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Just can't seem to find the time. Every wire seems to have a splice and very poorly done. No telling who did it years ago. I had planned to buy a wire wireing harness and do it over the winter but never happened.
@joostderidder
@joostderidder 2 ай бұрын
@@outdoorswithcam on a 6 VDC system, splices and connections will almost always lead to losses. Plus ... more risks of corrosion ... hence bad contacts ... hence entire electrical system acting crazy !!! lol lol Especially when the "main contact" to the chassis is only "so so" (in this case the plus). Well, sir ... summer is almost there ... maybe it's now the time to do what really needs to be done ... lol If I would live next to you, I'd come to help you out with it ... But Belgium isn't really nearby ... and my private pilot is on holidays !!! hahahaha Good luck !!!
@KenFullman
@KenFullman 2 ай бұрын
@@outdoorswithcam Seriously, the wiring on that car is so simple it would be easy to just run every cable from scratch. You could add a fuse box to make things easier to trace in future.
@armandorojo4113
@armandorojo4113 9 ай бұрын
Perseverance pays off! I'm about to start working on a '28 Tudor sedan, who knows what I'm going to encounter.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 9 ай бұрын
They are fun! New modern mechanics don't have a clue what points are...
@armandorojo4113
@armandorojo4113 9 ай бұрын
I drove a 1970 Mustang Mach I in high school back in 1983 (I still have it), I got very familiar with points, cap and rotors.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 9 ай бұрын
Yup I am old too... talking to new young mechanic that don't know what a dwel meter is. They plug their scan tool in and replace the part it tells them to. I think points and carburetors are so cool. Ask a new mechanic to rebuild a carburetor...
@deanjernstrom3760
@deanjernstrom3760 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the body's were set on wood blocks.May i suggest you get in touch with Paul Shinn.He got a ton of videos. He's a wizard.Good video.the ele issues can be in the harness.They dont cost to much and could be worth it.And as you know positive ground.Check the base of the steering column.Undo the bail and its another possible place to check .Good luck.Live my 28 LATER
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comments and advice. Yup you are right need to rewire this thing. BUt thats a winter project. YUp Paul Shinn's videos are great. I thought about takeing the bail and looking there. Just sort of figured it was a dead short to the frame and it was...
@joealbert7773
@joealbert7773 2 ай бұрын
The key swtich on a Model A provides a connection point between the coil and the points. With the key off, the points are not able to ground the coil so the engine will not run. I didn't realize that the coil is provided power at all times, but that's the way it is. With the key on, you should have battery voltage at both coil terminals when the points are open. You will have battery voltage at only one terminal when the points are closed. So, won't it hurt the coil to have it powered at all times? No, because there is no complete circuit until one of the coil primary terminals is grounded allowing current to flow through the primary winding. The points are what provide the circuit.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I love talking to "modern" mechanics. Some of the young ones don't even know what points are. I recently got a buick started that had sat for 40 years. Turns out that 2 swipes with a ignition file over points and started right up. There was white oxidation on points keeping it from make contact
@mafcawebmaster4237
@mafcawebmaster4237 2 жыл бұрын
Model A's run best WITHOUT an air filter. Especially if the engine pans are installed. Putting on an air filter restricts air flow and may be a fire hazard if the carburetor every dumps fuel due to a sticky float valve. Save your money - buy something else.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and advice! I won't put an air filter on it. Thanks again!
@westho7314
@westho7314 Ай бұрын
It's a FoRd, so you have to expect troubles. hence the old cliche FORD-= "Found On Road Dead" Had a '31 i bought 20 some years ago when Hollywood Studios liquidated some warehouses and yards filled with hundreds of of old cars & trucks and vehicles used on movie sets and in films for nearly 100 years, vehicles from 1905- 1950's. My Model A Ford was from the Waltons TV, show supposedly the episode when John boy drove his 1st car, i never watched the series but had a COA that came with that POS. I still have & drive my old nemisis a ''41 Chevy 1.5t dually/ short wheelbase flatbed, Daily driver for over 50 years with over 700k miles on the clock It's on it's 3rd engine now with an upgrade to '59 235 inline 6. The rest of the driveline is all original. It's traveled the Hiways, byways & backroads in all states from Colorado west.Though these days impatient people are just in too much of a hurry to enjoy the slow scenic drive, They are always Honking, finger waving, cutting me off, passing on the right to the point of "whats the use" I live in the desert southwest so i do still have local roads i can drive around on without speeding idiots to contend with & i use it for dump runs, but being 10 years younger than the Truck itself, driving and maintaining anything is more of a pain in the butt, than a pleasure to behold.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam Ай бұрын
WOW that is so cool! 700K! You should do the Great Race with it. These new cars won't last that long...
@jayo3865
@jayo3865 Ай бұрын
I have the same thing on my ford model a carburetor problems
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam Ай бұрын
I keep getting advice to switch to a different style. I am really good with 70s and 80S carburetors even boat carbs but this one has got me. Guess its to simple
@jeffreykropp7664
@jeffreykropp7664 27 күн бұрын
If the wires are full of splices, and you want reliability, bite the bullet and install a new harness.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment! Do you know where I could find a harness for a 90 year old car. You are right needs to be replaced...
@jeffreykropp7664
@jeffreykropp7664 27 күн бұрын
@@outdoorswithcam Snyders is a good source I have used.
@mafcawebmaster4237
@mafcawebmaster4237 2 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor: rewire the car back to original. Get rid of those new fuses and use ONLY ONE on the starter switch. Who knows what the previous owners have done to the wiring.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it needs to be rewired. BAD! But thats a winter project when I have lots of time to do it right. All these "butt" connectors and splices. If I was going to use them I would have put heat shrink on them or liquid electrical tape. Thanks for the comment and advice. YOu are 100%
@sallysilva3121
@sallysilva3121 Жыл бұрын
When the key is off the flow of electricity stops at the coil so both terminals are on then when its on,the positive side goes out cuz the electricity goes to the distributor so your switch is working properly to the coil
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. I just diagnosed a 60 buik coil and points. This Car is opposite. I have such a hard time understanding this Positive ground and how stuff works on this Model A
@sallysilva3121
@sallysilva3121 Жыл бұрын
@@outdoorswithcam lol I did too model A's are simple but complicated at the same time if you aint used to it
@sallysilva3121
@sallysilva3121 Жыл бұрын
Does your cut out on your generator turn on the test light when the key is off on your model A? Im working on my model A and the test ligjt turns on when the key is off
@mikecross4350
@mikecross4350 Жыл бұрын
Don't seem to know much about your car
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam Жыл бұрын
Nope it was born way before me.
@mikecross4350
@mikecross4350 Жыл бұрын
@@outdoorswithcam but is so simple
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam Жыл бұрын
@@mikecross4350 I leave the keys in it because no one could figure out how to steal it.
@outdoorswithcam
@outdoorswithcam Жыл бұрын
@@mikecross4350 Ask a new 20 year old to work on it. they don't know what points are. No where to hook a scantool up. The + ground really flips them out to...
@edwardhalpin7503
@edwardhalpin7503 Жыл бұрын
@@outdoorswithcam a manual transmission is the new theft deterrent system
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