Model Railroad Update 92 (Turnouts...and the HOn3 Three-Way)

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5 ай бұрын

Taking care of a few problem turnouts on the layout and sharing some insights learned.
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@richardsmith4147 5 ай бұрын

Good stuff Dennis! Love the progress

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

@FunWithHOScaleStuff 5 ай бұрын

Interesting to watch. The 3way tuning was very instructive.

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@locolorenzo 5 ай бұрын

That was a great tutorial adventure Dennis! I learned a whole bunch of handy wisdom today. Thank you Sir.😊 Couldn't help noting the flow of James River during the curved turnout swap. Talk about bending notes! And at the end, I noticed something about the #41 from 38:39 - 38:46. The pilot wheels hop up/down and swing forward/backward a lot.😳 It reminded me of my comments in the Coal Trestle Structure Build 16 video about the #030 plumb-and-square tolerances being so important (really Lawrence?! are you sure?). Seeing the #41 definitely makes me re-think all that... Horse Puckey?🤔🤥🥴😵‍💫 If the #41 can do it, why not the #030? 🚂Lawrence

@OtterCreek 4 ай бұрын

If only there were an easy way to add a bit of weight to those pesky pilot truck, a lot of problems would be solved! (I don't know how I missed this comment before now)

@sierge1 5 ай бұрын

Hi Dennis. That is really interesting about the tolerances you need for the three way turnout. Something that I saw about your first curved turnout compared to the one you replaced it with is when you used the rail bender to get your rail radius's in the second turnout your rails were a smoother bend than the first switch. I don't believe it was the camera playing tricks. The second turnout I believe is smoother in transition.

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

Yes, I don't think I had a "rail bender" when I built the first one. I just used my fingers to shape the rail. Now I have a rail bender which makes things much easier.

@CM-ARM 3 ай бұрын

Hey Dennis its neat to see how you are overcoming the issues with your switches. The only thing im really wondering is why you did a complete rebuild instead of removing the switch and reworking it. Im just looking at it in a completely financial manner. Nonetheless it is great that you fixed the issues so everything runs smoothly

@OtterCreek 3 ай бұрын

I honestly thought I could do a much better job on a brand new one, which I did. The reality with the narrow gauge Three ways, they need a lot of tweaking to get working well.

@johndirkson6736 5 ай бұрын

I don’t know if you’re going hand crafted and that’s awesome, but you could design it perfectly in CAD (design it in software) perfect radius, etc, and then CNC it (machine the perfect mods needed) not sure what century you’re living in. Just a machine shop supervisor with mechanical design in CA doing fiber optic work, just showing you the way

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

I won't be CNC'ng anything.

@johndirkson6736 4 ай бұрын

@@OtterCreekit’s cool. Find the problems and overcome. Nothing should be given to you. You just seem technical, but you’re acting like you’re not. Just a machine shop supervisor with mechanical design in Silicon Valley, CA, doing fiber optic fab.

@OtterCreek 4 ай бұрын

@@johndirkson6736 Lol, I promise I’m not acting. I am by nature an analytical person, but I much prefer to work with my hands, in all things. I can envision how much time it would take to create a cnc’d version of a three way turnout. Not to mention there would be no point since the one I just built is satisfactory and all the others that I’ve built.

@randysrockandrollrailroad8207 5 ай бұрын

👍🤠👍

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Randy

@alanloizeaux4881 5 ай бұрын

Can you widen the gauge to its max limit on the new 3 way? Drivers with no L or R slop will do better.

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

That is what I did. I didn't mention it in the video but there were a few places I let the stock rail out just a touch. I found the specific spots where the bind was occurring and widened the gauge in those locations. I guess I wasn't clear about that. I don't know why I never thought of using a K-37 with the boiler removed. Figuring out exactly where the bind occurred was the game changer. The bind doesn't occur with a normal truck, but you probably already knew that! 😉

@bobharris5872 5 ай бұрын

That was a very interesting and informative video. Would you like to sell the curved turnout you replaced? Is it Code 70 rail? About 20” radius through the Frog? If so I could use the frog. I’ve hand laided four turnouts. Two Threeways and two #4. All stub turnouts. My three ways have 18” radius diverging routes. I too have found that a slightly too wide gauge on the diverging routes to be productive. My turnouts are moved with servo powered with Team Valley Products. You are quite right that the controller needed by threeways stubs are incompatible with your Tortoise system. Additionally after listening to your commentary of your engines walking over your turnouts I don’t think you would like them walking over the stub rail ends. It is very difficult to get the rails to line up perfectly at the stub junctions. Bob

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

Hey Bob, the radius is 19 diverging 24 non diverging. I don't think I'm interested in selling it, If I can fix it I'm sure I can use it somewhere else. If I can't fix it I would not feel comfortable selling it! I could use the Tam Valley system with LCC but not without a lot of effort in trying to figure out how. They way I'm doing things now with the Push Buttons, tortoises and LCC couldn't be more easy for me. I actually have a servo and a Tam Valley 3-way controller but It will be for a Semaphore if I ever get around figuring out how to integrate it.

@bobharris5872 5 ай бұрын

That's cool Dennis, Nothing ventured ............ I want to build a stub version of a double slip turnout in the middle of my warf/industrial switching spur. It's a challenge because four rails have to move in the turnout. I might have to get a high torque Servo for it. Additionally, because of room I have to use #4 frogs and one end of the turnout needs to be curved and the only curved frogs I can get my hands on are code 100 where I need cod 70. At least it's a sloooow speed and short train location.@@OtterCreek

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

Is it just a matter of building the frogs? I Could easily build a couple of three or four #4 curved frogs. Do you know the radius they need to be at? That would be the only trick. Send me an email.

@bobharris5872 5 ай бұрын

Dennis, that would be a great help. I just need one in code 70. A left hand 18\22 R. If you can work with code 55 I would be interested in a #4 right also. I would be grateful for the one in 70 but I do prefer my secondary trackage to be in 55. Also 55 is easier for the servos to bend. @@OtterCreek

@OtterCreek 5 ай бұрын

I'll see what I can do... How long do you need them to be beyond the point of the frog? I think I have some Code 55.