I'm an old fart -- 68, to be exact. My hearing, after years of playing rock and roll, is not going to make any distinction between analog or digital. It's just not worth spending my hard-earned money for another copy of what I already own.

Hey dude, you f%+king nailed it here! I'm not an audiophile by any means. I just like good music and preferably on good sounding vinyl. I love vinyl. It's my preferred format. I don't care if the record is analog or digital, I just want a good sounding record at a decent price, nothing more. My ears are my ears and no one else's.

Taken from a digital copy of the original analog tapes is what they were doing is my guess. But it seems it may have been a way to mislead collectors.

You are spot on man. In their video they specifically said when they cannot use all Analog the border of the album cover says Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs vs Original Master Recording. They have duped people, overpricing their product and misrepresenting them since 2011. None of their literature shows DSD step in the chain.

For me, the Mofi issue, is a non issue. A DSD transfer of the original master tapes is still from the original analog master tapes. MoFi is a reissue company as long as the music is treated with respect and the records of SACDs sound good, I'll be happy.

You make very good points about MoFi that I have not heard yet. Thanks.

You are right, Analogue Productions and Chad have stated that they go to great lengths to get the best master available and will not settle for anything less. If they can't get it then they don't consider doing the title. The vegan analogy is excellent.

Hi. Nice to see a new channel on this hobby. I don’t really follow what you were trying to illustrate with the Pink Floyd example. The tapes didn’t have to be accessed as Guthrie and Plante had already made the hi-res digital remaster from the tapes for the 2009 CD release. For the 2016 lp, Grundman cut the reissue from that remaster. Guthrie is the Floyd’s go to man for all this kind of work (see the upcoming ‘ Animals’ remix due next month, for example), so he would have no trouble getting his hands on the tapes. Therefore, using this to illustrate how MOFI’s reasoning doesn’t stack up doesn’t really work. Don’t get me wrong - I’m not making excuses for them. What MOFI did was bang out of order. However, their engineers are not hired by companies such as Sony to make reissues; they are licensed to do so. On the other hand, Guthrie and Grundman are hired for a job.

You're Awesome dude! Love your channel. My 2 cents is this: the early years MOFI's sound noticeably better than when they started up again with the crappy Anadisc junk. And you need to do a segment on 180 gram versus standard thickness audiophile discs.. I have ran across "audiophile" 180 gram discs only to find that the sound quality was crap. (Simply Vinyl in the circa 2000-2006 time frame is the worst offender here.) We need to call out the jerks that are just making their so called audiophile discs thick and then not putting any quality into the actual pressing. I'm at the point where I want standard thickness audiophile pressing over 180 gram ones because the standard thickness has to stand on pressing quality instead of how thick the record is. Thickness is probably the least important aspect that dictates sound quality anyway.

I have a few of the PF Bernie Grundman records, I assumed they were all analogue as the sticker states.....but maybe not! SDE has made enquiries about the forthcoming Pink Floyd vinyl reissues with regards to the mastering and whether the vinyl is cut directly from analogue or via digital files… We can confirm that these vinyl reissues do use brand new remasters from the original analogue tapes, but they are not cut directly from analogue. The vinyl reissues are created from the digital file of the new remaster. This information comes directly from the label, via the PR company. Are we looking at another MOFI???

Totally agree with this video. We never seemed to have "Listener fatigue" until we got digital recordings. Now, it's common. Mo-fi's attraction was multi-fold. 1) master tapes were used. Better sound, fewer generational copies. 2) Limited numbers. The more you have of something, the less it's worth. With the Michael Jackson Thriller DSD file, MFSL can make unlimited numbers of CD's or vinyl with theoretically no loss. People who are pro digital, I think support the ideology of the technology. As a recording engineer of decades, i've used both analog and digital formats. Digital is FAR easier to mix and edit. Analog simply sounds better. Those who say "Mo-fi used digital sourced vinyl and no one heard" are delusional. No one heard because they didn't have an all analog version to listen to. MFSL didn't offer both. As you mention, when listening to analog vs digital on vinyl, the analog almost always wins. My simple view on recording is most instruments are analog. Every sound in nature is analog. Microphones are analog, voices are analog, speakers are analog. DAC's take those 1's and 0's and turn them back into analog. Yet the pro digital guys will argue it's somehow better. They argue that not only is NOTHING lost in the process, the anti aliasing filters, the dither, the noise shaping, the error correction, it's somehow BETTER. Digital audio is SAMPLED. If digitally sampled audio was better, then sampled drums should be better than real drums, sampled piano's should be better than real acoustic pianos, sampled strings and horns should be better than real strings and horns, sampled voices should be better that real voices. Yet none of that is true. These are probably the same people who will be telling us engineered meat is better than real meat. Great video.

I fully agree with you sir ,I do feel betrayed ! I did not know about multiple lawsuits . Excellent video , Thank you

The only people that were really miffed were the ones who steadfastly claimed that all analogue was better by right, only to find out that some they were championing was digital.

That Mingus is more than likely cut from digital even though it was newly mixed in analogue. It doesn't specify that it was cut all analogue and no mastering engineers are mentioned anywhere which is typical for MOV digital pressings.

The Beatles box set by MOFI which was released in 1982 I believe to be taken from all analogue sources.

This is why I only buy used OP vinyl from Academy Records in Brooklyn.

I agree fully with you about everything you said in your videos. You made great thoughtful examples and presented the issue in its proper light. I think there is no need to say more, you said everything needed to say and those who still like to poke and have fun at these things - well, good riddance. I hope to see more content from you.

Very good points, I have the Kevin Gray version of Marvin Gaye and it is much better sounding and with the extras, a better buy overall than the Mofi One-step. I'm lucky that although I owned Mofi in general, hybrid cds, regular cds, regular Mofi before the One-step and One-steps, I never forgot my roots. I didn't pay full value for the One-Steps and always caught deals. The UHQR, were no deals to be had. I even have some Craft Recording One Steps. Some people only own the audiophile pressings, like Michael at 45rpm and can't appreciate were vinyl came from and where it evolved too. Michael 45rpm stated he will now try to find the originals to make comparison, but there have been rumblings in the community before all of this that some of the One-Steps weren't that good and some of the original pressings sound better than the audiophile ones. Any lawsuit, if won will result in you maybe getting, 5.00-20.00, because the lawyers will eat up the rest. The interesting question is how will this impact current values and future value. The problem is some audiophiles put themselves in a corner by saying that they were Analog only and looked down their noses at digital and now they look stupid and are angry. I own Mofi, UHQR and others, but I stream, listen to and enjoy, cds, cassette, Reel to Reel and all forms of audio and what Mofi did is wrong, but never pick a format over the music itself. The examples that you gave about being deceptive were fine, except the Vegan, because if you have not had meat in your diet for months to years and someone does what you mentioned, it might not show up for the first 30-45 minutes, maybe longer, but that person will be extremely ill afterwards and suffer symptoms similar to the Flu, temperature, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, headaches as the body fights what it thinks is a foreign body.

Great channel! I subscribed. Lawsuit?lawyers will make millions and you will get a free download in high resolution that came from the original master 😂

I enjoyed your take.

Streaming miss the artwork.

Analogue productions has the opportunity to outshine Mofi. I still buy Mofi, but I now wait on the One Steps to see what the people's reviews are. I agree that I am not shelling out 125 for one steps

They make a copy of the master tape, and that is what they use to make the lacquer, out of which the mother and fathers are made to create the stampers. Either way, it comes from the original master tape. This ain't rocket science.

Great video 🤘🏽👍🏽🤙🏽

I agree totally. I only own 2 Mofis but I'm not buying anymore. However I do have a nice analog production collection.

What kind of speakers do you have ? mine are bostons & klipsch

The Beatles In Mono vinyl box set 2014 got a digital treatment as they mentioned in leaflet for Please Please Me. Thus, this is not an analog mastering at all. Don't be fooled by the name. All the vinyl purists have been exposed as a bunch of liars.

Are you thinking the Pink Floyd is from the master tape? That's just marketing language, same bs as with mofi. In fact worse, because they used way worse digital resolution, however they are going for a fair price. But the sound on those new Pink Floyd is not for me, I'll get the vintage ones. Don't know about the Jimi Hendrix one, if that's analog. The blue notes are analog, but that's because they are "basically" mastered at their location. The tapes are worth caring for, they cannot let everyone make masters of it, we should understand that.

I really hope the toothbrush story was symbolic!

Great examples about why MoFi was wrong for doing what they did. I think the people who are trying to deflect criticism of this deception realize that all of their confidence and rationalization won't stop us from losing respect for their opinions.

Subscribed.

They did a cash grab and banked on thier name, which means shit these days😂