Monster Hunter Rise - PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S - PC-Style Graphics Options! - DF Tech Review

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Жыл бұрын

An excellent Nintendo Switch game transitioned beautifully to PC and now - finally - we have versions for the rest of the consoles. In this video, we're taking a look at the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series machines - but it's not really the comparisons that are interesting, more the way that Capcom has allowed users to configure their own visual experience via a PC-style graphics menu. PS5 and Series X even get the ability to render the game at beyond 4K resolution!
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@ooze1982
@ooze1982 Жыл бұрын
The RE Engine is really Capcom's greatest achievement in the last and current generation.
@TheColdBloodedGamerS
@TheColdBloodedGamerS Жыл бұрын
It is, but this game is not as heavy as Resident Evil 8.
@w1nch3ster1
@w1nch3ster1 Жыл бұрын
It's been the best engine in terms of optimization since Fox Engine in my opinion.
@TacticalReaper56
@TacticalReaper56 Жыл бұрын
It's an amazing Engine. Little Glisteny but that's cuz everything looks "Wet" if that makes sense.
@w1nch3ster1
@w1nch3ster1 Жыл бұрын
@Farmertate I know what you mean. I think it'll continue to improve though as Cap gets more and more of a hold on it and how to use it. Look at REmake 4 compared to REmake 2&3. Has me very excited to play it.
@TacticalReaper56
@TacticalReaper56 Жыл бұрын
@@w1nch3ster1 THANK YOU FRIEND. I thought I was crazy thinking everyone is soaked in Hakan oil somewhat in their games ATM.
@ramonosuke
@ramonosuke Жыл бұрын
Wow. Capcom really outdid themselves with this port on the newer consoles. I play on PC, but seeing a good list of graphics toggles on consoles to tailor your experience needs to be implemented in more games ASAP. Good vid as always DF
@Tential1
@Tential1 Жыл бұрын
Because, they are getting ready for something new. There is gonna be a ps5 pro and Xbox pro/whatever. So games now need to scale further up but even more importantly, there's going to be a handheld Xbox and Playstation moving forward. I'm almost positive Xbox will do it. PlayStation, less so. Games will have to be far more variable on console. Microsoft, I'm 90% sure(my speculation) then will utilize the next gen amd apu to create a mobile Xbox series s. At that point, the Apu that AMD will have out will be faster than the series s allowing them to emulate the series s with a little bit of overhead. Microsoft isn't stupid. Shareholders demand that they have competition to the steam deck and it works perfectly with Microsoft's business model. PlayStation, has a much harder time doing it, not sure how Sony figures it out, but if it was me personally, I would just take the expense it and paid people to do it before I lose market share to Microsoft but knowing how executives are they're going to be too conservative. Infinite money Microsoft doesn't care. Gaming is extremely valuable. If Netflix is worth as much as it is, Microsoft games as a service is worth 4x that amount (350B to a trillion. You gamers are amazing cows to milk). Handheld is coming.
@borborkontri4837
@borborkontri4837 Жыл бұрын
Sony first party ps5 games(minus returnal) have options similar.. though not as extensive. Good stuff
@xXOriginalSin
@xXOriginalSin Жыл бұрын
@Maxwell Benz yea ps5 pro and xbox pro ginally hitting rtx 3000 levels, while pc is native 4k 120fps with rtx 4000
@Frank-vd1ml
@Frank-vd1ml Жыл бұрын
@@Tential1 wrote all this for like 2 people to read it fully 😂
@borborkontri4837
@borborkontri4837 Жыл бұрын
@@xXOriginalSin Now that you're starting to get true PS5 games. You start seeing 32gb recommend on PC to try to cope with ps5 Io system. Then the ps5 can fully load and scrub it's gpu on the fly. PCs can't do that yet. So you'll need 30 series card + beefy cpu to fully get similar experience.. $$$$$
@Pyro71666
@Pyro71666 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was hoping you guys would cover the Rise console Ports! Before i watch the video, my testing on the Series X gave me the impression that capcom gave us a completely unlocked framerate, with the presets simply adjusting the settings accordingly. I used the performance preset, increased image quality to 100%, texture filtering on high, shadows medium, enabled high resolution textures, and am averaging 90-120 fps on the lg c1 with freesync vrr providing a smooth refresh. Update: after watching the video, i will add on to the analysis by saying that ambient occlusion heavily impacts the framerate. Im sure if you use graphics mode preset and simply disable ambient occlusion, disable dynamic shadows, and lower shadows to medium you can keep the 4.8K resolution and retain 60 fps easily and then some.
@crazy-nephew_5857
@crazy-nephew_5857 Жыл бұрын
I get a true Stable 120fps with Shadows to LOW and Ambient Occlusion 'OFF' and everything else LOW/OFF. Happy Hunting!
@crazy-nephew_5857
@crazy-nephew_5857 Жыл бұрын
(and yes, I do have Graphics at 100% and High Res Textures to ON and always get 120fps with very rare drops down to, like 110fps, hard to notice)
@Kiwiiizzz
@Kiwiiizzz Жыл бұрын
But why would you want 4.8k Seems like a waste of processing power if you prioritize graphics
@Shredder2898
@Shredder2898 Жыл бұрын
I saw those graphics options yesterday and got really excited hoping you guys would have something for it!
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see how the last gen machines hold up now and what resolutions and fps they target
@biggie2chainz
@biggie2chainz Жыл бұрын
My brother plays on PS4 pro, it’s either 1080p60 or 4K30 and I imagine it runs similarly on the Xbox consoles
@MattySlagter97
@MattySlagter97 Жыл бұрын
I have both next gen Xbox consoles their good I plays mhw would good not surprised! That it plays mhr at 60fps on them as well
@Plusimurfriend
@Plusimurfriend Жыл бұрын
@@biggie2chainz No way any last gen machine even ps4pro can run the game at 4k 30 fps.
@ravagingvip3r732
@ravagingvip3r732 Жыл бұрын
@@Plusimurfriend the one x can render at 4k
@biggie2chainz
@biggie2chainz Жыл бұрын
@@Plusimurfriend Nope. It’s relatively stable but there are frame drops depending on how intense the scene is
@adraged2111
@adraged2111 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see graphics options like this become more common on console games, I think vrr has given devs more confidence in letting the player customise thier experance
@MonkeyDBenny
@MonkeyDBenny Жыл бұрын
there 's a thing called pc if custom experience is what you're looking for
@jesseshaver2262
@jesseshaver2262 Жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyDBenny I think you misread OP’s comment. I’m pretty sure he’s aware pc’s exist
@jaredjones1846
@jaredjones1846 Жыл бұрын
@@jesseshaver2262 that's just how these smug pc guys talk. Not everyone can afford a nice gaming rig
@Synkhan
@Synkhan Жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyDBenny Thanks captain obvious smh
@OneStepToDeath420
@OneStepToDeath420 Жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyDBenny We don't do that here.
@GnarpyOfficial
@GnarpyOfficial Жыл бұрын
I feel like the highly customisable graphics settings menu should be a option on most games
@Green_Stache_Productions
@Green_Stache_Productions Жыл бұрын
Agreed but probably not gonna happen since Consoles are more casual friendly than PCs and a lot of optimization would be needed meaning more time and money is wasted on developing the game which I'm sure most of the higher ups wouldn't want
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I'd put shadow in all games to medium or low.
@sdewey4152
@sdewey4152 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice but there'd need to be some sort of FPS readout toggle as well or idiots will just crank it and whine when it doesn't run as well as it should.
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 Жыл бұрын
It can't really happen. As the only reason this exist in rise is because this is a switch game. So they are using all the extra horsepower to give users options
@spiritwolfe771
@spiritwolfe771 Жыл бұрын
@@Green_Stache_Productions Is that not basically what they just said but reworded?
@Tubbst4r
@Tubbst4r Жыл бұрын
Great video but shame you didn't also cover the advanced graphics option, a lot of tweaking can be done from in this menu (except dynamic shadows which can only be turned on or off at the title screen) It would of been interesting to see what results we get when we individually tweak these options
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 Жыл бұрын
The load times on current-gen are hella fast, goddamn. Imagine MH6 being made with these load speeds in mind. And thank god the PS5 version has gyro aiming. That single-handedly made bows viable for me.
@zyrixis9650
@zyrixis9650 Жыл бұрын
I still have nightmares about the load times for MH World on my base PS4. Spent over 1000 hours on that, 200 were probably loading screens
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 Жыл бұрын
@@zyrixis9650 Don’t remind me, that was a nightmare. Even playing the old version of MHW on current-gen was a big upgrade in terms of load times.
@J0kerHecz
@J0kerHecz Жыл бұрын
@@zyrixis9650I moved MHW to my external SSD on PS4 (Still remains there currently with PS5) and it cut load times in half. I’m glad current gen is using SSDs this time, less load times but less time to read the tips and whatnot 😅
@rikou4214
@rikou4214 Жыл бұрын
tbf even on Switch it's pretty fast compared to World on base PS4
@MarbleThumbs
@MarbleThumbs Жыл бұрын
It loads fast no matter what you run it on.
@Bristow9091
@Bristow9091 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Graphics mode would give a locked 60fps if you set the image quality to 100% rather than 125%, or even somewhere inbetween if it's available.
@PrimarchNova
@PrimarchNova Жыл бұрын
It definitely feels smoother, that's how I'm playing on series x
@diligaf1000
@diligaf1000 Жыл бұрын
Capcom are killing it with current gen consoles. Recently played re2 and 3 remakes after the patches and they are such great games
@stanislavkimov2779
@stanislavkimov2779 Жыл бұрын
Capcom is really probably the single AAA publisher that I completely trust. Everything they do is gold.
@aerus3446
@aerus3446 Жыл бұрын
@@stanislavkimov2779 Except Exoprimal which could be bad, all the games they have produced in the last six or five years including Exoprimal are original takes on different genres, and do not try to make a cashgrab out of new trends like Battle Royale genre, and meet good standards that some people usually ignore, for example the games rarely have bugs on release and if they do they are patched out asap, also if a game port is bad they will attempt to fix it like MHW was a unoptimized disaster at launch and now it has plenty of options that were unavailable at the original release. As long as the games Capcom releases meets these standards and have lots of content/things to do (nowadays almost everyone releases games on a skeleton or shell state without many features), it will be a great future for this company.
@urbanstreet_4282
@urbanstreet_4282 Жыл бұрын
Well. The RE2 remake was certainly very good, but they really screwed up the RE3 remake.
@doyouwannarollwithme
@doyouwannarollwithme Жыл бұрын
@@aerus3446 They're literally milking RE till it's dry and practically gave up on older franchises lol
@MrTgrtgtg
@MrTgrtgtg Жыл бұрын
Have you guys tested default mode on ps5 with all the other settings at max, with the exception of motion blur. Will it still hit solid 60fps?
@ActionJaxonH
@ActionJaxonH Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite games of all time. 800+ hours on Switch OLED, and I still play Sunbreak to this day in the office in tabletop mode. Don't skip this game!
@Shvabicu
@Shvabicu Жыл бұрын
How is it compared to World? Gameplay etc.? I have 1300 hours in World and Rise is made by the B-Team at Capcom, so I don't know if it's gonna feel like playing a downgraded version of World.
@theoldpcgamer77
@theoldpcgamer77 Жыл бұрын
How TF do you play a game for that many hours. Fallout 3 and a few other games I played for just over 100hrs and they were classic open world rpgs that I ran all over the map.
@Tarets
@Tarets Жыл бұрын
@@theoldpcgamer77 They grind. It's got an MMO-like end game loop - you kill things, you craft better gear and that allows you to overcome even stronger versions of things to kill.
@tylervincent2559
@tylervincent2559 Жыл бұрын
@@theoldpcgamer77 sounds like he plays at work
@BBBerti
@BBBerti Жыл бұрын
​@@theoldpcgamer77 I got 3000 hours in Monster Hunter World and 1000 in Rise at this point. Monster Hunter are special in that regard, it's just so much fun that u keep playing
@darkywarky
@darkywarky Жыл бұрын
Very impressive range of options in this game, glad to see it.
@cynic5581
@cynic5581 Жыл бұрын
“It’s a bit of a surprise with the Xbox’s on paper teraflop advantage”. You guys should do a video specifically dispelling the “on paper teraflop” metric myth when it comes to other variables. You could use the 4 teraflop Xbox Series S and PS4 Pro as the example….you could even call the video “4TF Console Face-off Xbox Series S vs PlayStation 4 Pro: Elden Ring, Cyberpunk,…….”🙄 It’s like one step forward two steps backwards with you guys.
@lysandros765
@lysandros765 Жыл бұрын
I very much doubt that they will do such a video and i think we both know why.
@urmomma2688
@urmomma2688 Ай бұрын
​@@lysandros765 Is the saying : "heavy is the head that wears the tinfoil hat" true or nah?
@sawdust8691
@sawdust8691 Жыл бұрын
I was quite surprised how good this game looked booting it up on gamepass. Unlocked framerate with great performance? Decent HDR? High resolution? I call that a good port. Keep in mind that with a VRR display, you will be getting 100+ FPS with the default graphics mode. Default is definitely the way to go.
@alondite215
@alondite215 Жыл бұрын
The default HDR settings are kinda meh. I run Brightness at 20 and Contrast at 60 (saturation left at 0) on my CX and it looks significantly better than default. If the brights are too much, going 25/55 is a good setting, too.
@sawdust8691
@sawdust8691 Жыл бұрын
Ya. Some proper HDR settings would be nice. I think the game is asking for way too much brightness. It does generally give a good picture, though. I just left the settings on standard and used HGIG or Dolby Vision on my C2. Looks alright. Detail is blown out in the few highlights, of course. But overall, it presents well. Games really do need to have proper settings for HDR though. It's frustrating when a game has little to no settings, making it impossible to get HDR right.
@Bankoru
@Bankoru Жыл бұрын
Graphics preset + 100% res runs at 100-120, with VRR it's great.
@qixace
@qixace Жыл бұрын
Yes, im using the same !
@phase_1471
@phase_1471 Жыл бұрын
I think a vrr capable tv is gonna have to be my next upgrade.
@Plusimurfriend
@Plusimurfriend Жыл бұрын
@@phase_1471 not only does it need to be vrr capable, it also has to be compatible with your console because not all vrr tvs work with consoles.
@Bankoru
@Bankoru Жыл бұрын
@@phase_1471 LGC1 or LGC2 is great
@DieselJT
@DieselJT Жыл бұрын
What a great breakdown of everything!!!!! Impressive guys!
@BobBobOnYouTube
@BobBobOnYouTube Жыл бұрын
Do you often find guys impressive?
@summerofblake6461
@summerofblake6461 Жыл бұрын
Can you knock the image quality down to 100% in the graphics mode to hit the 60fps? rather than changing to default mode and losing the higher shadow quality?
@gabrielmenezes8206
@gabrielmenezes8206 Жыл бұрын
Yes you can do that
@ahsankhan-zg6gr
@ahsankhan-zg6gr Жыл бұрын
What a concise and enjoyable comparison. Tomas is always one of the best voices to listen to
@CrespoFTW
@CrespoFTW Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad Capcom opened up with putting this game on multiple console. Bought this game on switch and really wanted to see how this game would perform on a more powerful console.
@dookkelsall6409
@dookkelsall6409 Жыл бұрын
same! i sunk a little over 800 hours collectively across rise and sunbreak. i loved it. bought the ps5 version last night and played til almost 5am. it’s amazing
@ApotheosisDivine69
@ApotheosisDivine69 Жыл бұрын
Love Tom's reviews! He is the best reviewer in the D.F. team! His style and details described are the best, and he has a great voice in commentary!
@parazels83
@parazels83 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Tom and John Linneman are the best!
@marcelslofstra2157
@marcelslofstra2157 Жыл бұрын
@@parazels83 i dó enjoy Richards ‘deep dives’, like he did for the Steam Deck, though.
@ELmelfes
@ELmelfes Жыл бұрын
don't start now
@parazels83
@parazels83 Жыл бұрын
@@marcelslofstra2157 Richard is a patriarch of the channel, he is out of the competition!
@altramen7045
@altramen7045 Жыл бұрын
literally anyone is better than Alex 🤢
@valk5041
@valk5041 Жыл бұрын
The load times being instant for a game like this is absolutely amazing
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын
its crazy cuz i never found the switch loading times to be bad at all.
@stellarhyme3
@stellarhyme3 Жыл бұрын
Huh? The game is a ps3 level game graphically.
@valk5041
@valk5041 Жыл бұрын
@@stellarhyme3 I'm not talking graphically, mh world had so many long loading screens without an ssd and just mh games in general tend to have a lot of loading screens everytime you post and start a quest. Being able to instantly jump into a hunt after posting a quest feels great
@waitbalthy6342
@waitbalthy6342 Жыл бұрын
@@dnegel9546they weren’t bad at all but moving to an ssd you just can’t go back
@olivermendez4025
@olivermendez4025 Жыл бұрын
@@stellarhyme3 I had a ps3, and most of the games are so blurry and poor performance, you definitely don't know what you're talking about
@vampiszon6620
@vampiszon6620 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex, actually at 14:04 you could mention that another solution if you want stable 60fps in Graphics Mode, is to just decrease Image Quality to 100% from 125% and voila. Kudos to everyone who notices the resolution drop on 4k TV. I can't.
@oliviermox755
@oliviermox755 Жыл бұрын
that's exactly what i did too
@alondite215
@alondite215 Жыл бұрын
I doubt the difference is really noticeable unless you have a particularly large display. But yeah, setting it to the quality mode and then turning resolution scale to 100% is the way to go unless you really need those extra frames for some reason.
@Atonam_real
@Atonam_real Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this video. Digital foundry undoubtedly is the best technical game reviewer.
@OneLastScholar
@OneLastScholar Жыл бұрын
Only thing missing is some damn timemarks/summary comment like VGTech does.
@kickstartavalanche
@kickstartavalanche Жыл бұрын
Always good to hear Tom with the breakdown 🤙
@bigt4135
@bigt4135 Жыл бұрын
I hope they make a physical version when the dlc is out.
@therealbalto24
@therealbalto24 Жыл бұрын
Didn't know there wasn't physical versions.
@johnodaz1273
@johnodaz1273 Жыл бұрын
Great video DF. Playing MH: Rise on the Switch was very enjoyable indeed and Looked n Played fantastically well plus Playing it on the Go is awesome also. MH: Rise on the New Systems Looks and Plays brilliantly, i would probably go for 4K/60fps Default on the PS5 and 1440p/60fps Default on the Series S for that Smoother Gameplay Overall especially for that First Playthrough but that 120fps Mode does look Fun tho and the Extra Graphics Mode looks amazing. Would like too see a Video like this on No More Heroes 3, if you haven't already done one that is guys.
@SaigonBrit
@SaigonBrit Жыл бұрын
Always lovely to hear Tom. My favourite member of DF after Rich.
@AndyDo
@AndyDo Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent demonstration of cores v clocks. Great video!
@freddywayne
@freddywayne Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@WiseGuy3683
@WiseGuy3683 Жыл бұрын
It's cool to see this game being ported to PS5 and XSX|XSS and it's cool to see they did a good job with the port. It's just unfortunate that the game isn't cross platform play and cross progression. If they would have had this, this could have been something I'd be playing all the time with my larger group of friends. But because of that, the friends who wanted to play with and join my friends core MH group that started back on Switch, can't. It really sucks. I really wish they'd make these games with cross platform play being the center of attention in terms of multiplayer.
@demshirosan7311
@demshirosan7311 Жыл бұрын
Well a good thing is I can play with my sister (she's on ps4) and I'm on ps5
@adeyinkatobi
@adeyinkatobi Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom any word on last gen version
@killerfugu2659
@killerfugu2659 Жыл бұрын
Went to do comparisons vs PC but interestingly the "image quality" option on PC has no 125% option, it goes 100% then 150%. Seemed to run around 160fps at 150% image quality at 4k in the snow area at 17:26 where the Ps5 is 65fps and the Xbox is 59fps. That's running a 4080 and 5800x, what's nice to see is that PC now also has DLSS and DLAA, glad to see Capcom embracing a lot of technical aspects on every platform.
@corey2232
@corey2232 Жыл бұрын
It's still remarkable how amazing this looks for a Switch game. Capcom basically put out the best looking "realistic" style visuals on Switch with this game. Crazy how a game targeting simplistic, anime visuals with almost no environmental details/textures, low draw distance, reduced frame rate animations everywhere, and sparsely populated world like Pokemon still feels like it's running in slow motion... And even though MH Rise is popular, it's not Pokemon-level popular. Wish Capcom would be tasked to develop the next spin-off/side game like Pokemon Legends. In the meantime, I'm downloading MH Rise from Game Pass on PC right now. Can't wait! 😁
@alondite215
@alondite215 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it comes down to the engine, really. Capcom has more talented engineers, and likely 3D artists as well.
@jayg339
@jayg339 Жыл бұрын
It really does highlight how poor the graphics/performance of Pokémon Scarlett/violet in comparison to what capcom achieved on the switch with Monster Hunter Rise.
@FelixS.
@FelixS. Жыл бұрын
Comments like this are redundant. There is no comparison needed, Pokémon just looks like horsedung without any standard to put it up against. Almost every 3D Switch game looks and runs better.
@jayg339
@jayg339 Жыл бұрын
@@FelixS. I don't think its redundant. There were plenty of people out there blaming the performance/graphics of the new Pokemon games on the hardware of the Switch. Monster Hunter Rise was a great example that it's not the hardware, it is GameFreak(although the Switch hardware is getting long in the tooth).
@FelixS.
@FelixS. Жыл бұрын
@@jayg339 It is clear since day one of the Switch the hardware being competent enough to have vastly superior games released on it than Pokémon and we are debating this topic since Sword and shield now. And every time a competent or only decent game is released people repeat their mantras and assuring „now this is the example why Pokémon is bad“. Be it Xenoblade, be it Monster Hunter, be it Nier Automata, be it Fire Emblem or let it be ports of comparable 3D RPGs or let it be even older games like Dragon Quest XI or Zelda. There are plenty of evidences what the Switch can do. So while you are right of course I keep with my perception and say the statement is redundant at this point :)
@jayg339
@jayg339 Жыл бұрын
@@FelixS. Fair Enough
@uncario
@uncario Жыл бұрын
Great video! Looking fists to seeing this title used as a benchmark for composing console to pc
@markokuosmanen
@markokuosmanen Жыл бұрын
Anyone else noticed those odd green frames that caused the PS5 video capture to flicker from time to time in the comparison from 16:55 onwards?
@nick13b
@nick13b Жыл бұрын
saw that as well, not on Series X at all.
@sammydreamz9788
@sammydreamz9788 Жыл бұрын
I got it running so good and 60+fps by keeping the image quality at 100% , high res textures on , texture filtering on , ambient occlusion on , shadow quality high foliage sway on AND all the rest filters , dynamic shadows and DOF and film grain is OFF
@xikaryo6735
@xikaryo6735 Жыл бұрын
While the graphics aren’t exactly impressive, the graphics settings and instant loading definitely are. I love the effort Capcom’s been making lately.
@CheckeredFedora
@CheckeredFedora Жыл бұрын
Great video! A lot of interesting options. Did any of you experience screen tearing on the Series S version? I'm getting it on all graphics settings.
@VanTesla
@VanTesla Жыл бұрын
Hope the information for the last generation systems comes out still. Curious also about the PS4 version played on PS5 and what differences, advantages, and disadvantages it has. Also just curious how it plays on OG Xbox One and PS4.
@Zeegoku1007
@Zeegoku1007 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I don't remember when I saw PC style graphics customization options on consoles before...
@chasewills3320
@chasewills3320 Жыл бұрын
Warframe comes to mind
@danbooke2001
@danbooke2001 Жыл бұрын
And the PS4, Xbox One VCR, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, and PS4 Pro?
@dun06hpu
@dun06hpu Жыл бұрын
Could the graphics modes sub 60 frame rate on Xbox series S be saved by VRR or does it drop too many frames?
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 Жыл бұрын
Sell that trash and buy a real system, least you can do is get a Series X so you don't have to keep tip toeing around the lack luster capability of a system that belongs in last generation.
@wh5027
@wh5027 Жыл бұрын
The Series S can more than hold it's own, at least for a few years. While I have a Series X and obviously prefer it, I've seen the Series S in action and it certainly is a capable little machine and there's nothing even close for the price/value versus performance. It's honestly pretty incredible that the Series S is that price in today's market.
@nick13b
@nick13b Жыл бұрын
Series S is a beast for 200 bucks
@VanTesla
@VanTesla Жыл бұрын
I hope after doing the prior-gen hardware comparisons. DF does the recent ports of P3P and P4 Golden. As I've seen some technical "issues" with the AI upscaling used by Atlus for both ports, the sound compression in P3P, etc. So would like any at DF who perhaps like Persona to do a full breakdown of the pros, cons, and decisions used to port these two games for other systems.
@dynastes4938
@dynastes4938 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Capcom for going the extra mile here and providing this level of customization. If it was not already apparent from the Switch version, it now definitely is: They have quite the mastery over their current technology. Fellow companies like Square Enix should take notice :D
@Tarets
@Tarets Жыл бұрын
Current technology? XD You mean other developers should make current gen console games look like slightly improved versions of switch titles? Dude, these console versions have written "SWITCH PORT" all over them.
@dynastes4938
@dynastes4938 Жыл бұрын
@@Tarets Yes, current technology. They are using the RE Engine for several of their current gen titels, aren't they? ;) Also, a simple "SWITCH PORT" could be provided without any of the options that have been implemented into these versions. Forspoken shows you, how terrible performance can be on more powerful platforms, even though the game itself also runs on weaker hardware ;)
@griffgames9538
@griffgames9538 Жыл бұрын
It's cool that Capcom still takes some pride in the upkeep of a strong, competitive in-house game engine, as so many other devs are now bouncing to UE5.
@darthsreepa2820
@darthsreepa2820 Жыл бұрын
true, it's kinda sad to see great engines like the Dragon Engine among others be replaced by Unreal... which is great for devs that want to reduce dev times and reduce crunch but still, wish it werent this way
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx Жыл бұрын
why do you care about the engine? as we have seen plenty of times in the past, your game only has to look like an engine-X game if you don't bother to differentiate, and that is a dev problem, not an engine problem.
@griffgames9538
@griffgames9538 Жыл бұрын
@@xBINARYGODx - but there are indeed engine problems too, when some devs elect to try their own in-house solutions. Not everyone nails it. Capcom is one of the larger dev/pubs that has managed to produce a pretty efficient, full-featured in-house engine for many years. A credit to their technical teams.
@TPGKDUB
@TPGKDUB Жыл бұрын
How to do toggle graphic settings on Xbox series X, it was stuck on presets last night.
@dumpfuckery7909
@dumpfuckery7909 Жыл бұрын
you can change it in game, not on the title screen
@qixace
@qixace Жыл бұрын
With 120hz display and vrr, i think the best mode its graphics with resolution at 100%. What do you think ?
@Elysiumlost
@Elysiumlost Жыл бұрын
Comfirmed this is true. I’m Xbox series x I’m getting between 70-100fps on average. With vrr even though it’s highly variable; it is at all times BETTER than 60 fps with no visual downgrade. This is god tier
@stevenjohnson4122
@stevenjohnson4122 Жыл бұрын
All console games should have these graphics settings options.
@hepwo91222
@hepwo91222 Жыл бұрын
Capcom did great in getting the game to look that good on Switch. I mean a casual user might not even notice much of a difference between that version and the current gen consoles.
@FigmentHF
@FigmentHF Жыл бұрын
Is this the first console game with Pc like graphics settings? Can’t think of any others off my head
@AdamMerlin
@AdamMerlin Жыл бұрын
What I dont think I'll ever understand is how the 60fps cap on graphics mode has 50-60 frames and the 120fps cap on graphics mode has 60-80 frames.. Are they the same exact settings on both?
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing that they actually exposed all the PC settings and allow you to individually adjust them while still offering the presets. This is something I'd love to see in more games on console with the presets plus customizable settings like PC
@NeroTP
@NeroTP Жыл бұрын
Clearly playing in PS5 graphics mode, just putting scale to 100% should be the best mode to play
@cobobonzobobby
@cobobonzobobby Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid!!!
@danielbartolic1009
@danielbartolic1009 Ай бұрын
what is the song at the beginning?
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 Жыл бұрын
Jesus that's impressive. When I saw there was a native 4k mode alone I thought that was 30fps but it was the 60fps mode 😂 and even the 2700p mode targets 60. What would you get with 30fps? 6k?
@clockdownrme5598
@clockdownrme5598 Жыл бұрын
6k between the PS5 and Series X I'd imagine would be closer to a 30 fps target, but potentially still running above it given the tested results in the video. 8k would definitely be the true test of it, for sure. At that point it'd definitely bring the consoles to their knees. I feel like this actually serves as a good metric for nearly all Switch-developed games if they were to be ported to current-gen systems. Really neat to see this coming from Capcom, specifically.
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 Жыл бұрын
@@clockdownrme5598 I agree with you buddy. This type of thing is super interesting imo
@Scitch-et4vk
@Scitch-et4vk Жыл бұрын
Runs fine on ps5 love the game
@Arizen_XIII
@Arizen_XIII Жыл бұрын
would like to see the windows version of the game. i wanna know if its just a copy paste version of steam and what controllers does it support
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo Жыл бұрын
Tom, you’ve made us all very happy. Outstanding report
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo Жыл бұрын
PS All other publishers, follow Capcom’s video settings lead. You have nothing to lose
@Somnifuge
@Somnifuge Жыл бұрын
A nice upgrade over the Switch, and the advanced graphics options are great to see - shame it's once _again_ a game I won't buy a second copy of, because Capcom can't be bothered to just put in cross-save in new MH titles. It looks amazing, but not "start over and abandon 200 hours of Switch progress" amazing
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын
same. this game is way to grindy to be starting over.
@evidicus
@evidicus Жыл бұрын
Makes me wish I had held out for a better version. The Switch just can’t hang.
@yellowcard8100
@yellowcard8100 Жыл бұрын
Skill issue
@corey2232
@corey2232 Жыл бұрын
@@yellowcard8100 How does that equate to skill? It specifically states it's a TIME issue.
@stanislavkimov2779
@stanislavkimov2779 Жыл бұрын
That's why it's better to play on a PC. Can play the same game and same saves on any HW. Switch is only good for exclusives and indies.
@Braconara1981
@Braconara1981 Жыл бұрын
While not my jam, I'm impressed with the pc like settings, would be cool to see more of this on other games too.
@lyconxero457
@lyconxero457 Жыл бұрын
I'll be very interested to see how the last gen machines hold up in this game given what we've seen here on the current gen machines and Switch. The RE Engine (along with Capcom's devs) is really an amazing thing to be able to pull off one of the best looking and running Switch titles and then to scale the game up so beautifully to current gen consoles. However, given the minor struggles seen by the Xbox Series consoles in comparison to the PS5 I wonder if this is a situation where it is simply easier to fully utilize all of the PS5s CUs running at their higher clock speeds as opposed to having more CUs but clocked lower? We seemingly saw a lot of this towards the beginning of the generation and then things kind of evened out but with this game seemingly being incredibly well-optimized and offering PC-like scaling on consoles that allow you to easily push the machines past simply locking smoothly at a framerate it seems like this may be the case. I'll be interested if any current-gen only RE Engine titles offer scaling features like these so that this hypothesis can be better tested when the least common denominator is the Series S and NOT the Nintendo Switch. Actually, I think Street Fighter 6 is going to be on the PS4 but NOT on the Xbox One so maybe that'll be an interesting case to examine.
@JohnnyNocturne
@JohnnyNocturne Жыл бұрын
for regular console players how do you tell or display the FPS. can you only do it with a specific set up or equipment?
@gerboog
@gerboog Жыл бұрын
Video editing software and/or some TV's/Monitors have built-in frame counters.
@Marcuscaravan
@Marcuscaravan Жыл бұрын
LG TV's have a FPS display option. Triple tap the green button on the remote.
@veryDave
@veryDave Жыл бұрын
Seeing people mention about TV/monitor displays having this - they’re displaying their *refresh rate*, but misleadingly label it FPS display. If VRR is running it will be a rough indication as the refresh rate is set according to the frame rate, but it’s very rough usually in its display even then. If you have a PC and display the actual frame rate using RTSS etc, you’ll notice a monitor’s overlay is usually pretty rough. Mainly useful to check VRR is engaging properly or the ballpark of frame rate than serious measuring.
@agcz789
@agcz789 Жыл бұрын
I hope all games are like this in the future (especially SFVI and Tekken 8)
@Mr.Ltastic
@Mr.Ltastic Жыл бұрын
If the next MH game takes the best parts of World and Rise its gonna be a banger!
@lucasrodriguez8957
@lucasrodriguez8957 Жыл бұрын
Does a display only capable of 1080p at 120hz, do that change the result in any ways, because of the lower resolution?
@VanTesla
@VanTesla Жыл бұрын
From little knowledge, I know it won't change say the frame rate for better or worse. If decide to try upping internal settings beyond 1080p I believe it just supersamples for a more clean image. So less AA if on a lower resolution screen.
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that more developers don't offer more advanced visual options to push the boat out for gamers that want that, it would be a big selling point to upgrade to a mid-gen console or next gen console, especially with backwards compatibility as the developers wouldn't have to do anything as the game would use the extra power, just like how it is on the PC. It's the same on the Steam Deck, any game you buy on that, you can play at such a setting and when a more powerful Deck 2 is released, it will feel like you're getting a remastered version of a lot of games for free, but come to think of it, on consoles at least, some might want to market that as an optional paid extra, a bit like how Rockstar does it.
@das16thegoon
@das16thegoon Жыл бұрын
Seems like ps5 is starting to pull away in terms of power in comparison to xbox series x
@davidwooten7212
@davidwooten7212 Жыл бұрын
Really? How did you get that out of this content piece? Are you really pining that assumption on a port of a Switch title by Capcom? Come on.... 😉
@KazDX
@KazDX Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was waiting for, I played MHR on S, PC and now XSX and I wanted to see the breakdown on settings for the series x. Another great video!
@ketchup7867
@ketchup7867 Жыл бұрын
Wonder about unlocked frame rates on default settings
@Iamfirebird360
@Iamfirebird360 Жыл бұрын
I wish all other games were approached like this. 60fps baseline. Customized sliders for other settings. We need to move completely beyond 30fps imo.
@tired2Btired
@tired2Btired Жыл бұрын
I was waitnig for this video! Coming from playing this on switch,i was blown away on how better it was on ps5. Even more than i expected
@pleasuretokill
@pleasuretokill Жыл бұрын
This is a best case scenario win on every platform. The engine is the star of the show here for sure. Im playing on a 120hz TV with VRR and ALLM modes along with Dolby Vision on the XSX. VRR takes care of any drops and I have not seen a frame drop yet that was noticeable. Graphics and performance are phenomenal. A friend I play with has an XSS as he doesnt game as much as I do and just wanted a current gen system to play on. I talked him into downloading this on Game Pass and he cant believe how good it looks and play either... whatever Capcom did with this engine, they did it right...
@malazan6004
@malazan6004 Жыл бұрын
Yup it's a dream on my ps5 and LG OLED 4k 120hz really love capcoms optimisation. It's a shame Wild Hearts is the complete opposite of this!
@shadowraziel69
@shadowraziel69 Жыл бұрын
Thx a lot ! But which settings would be the best on PS5, I mean in advanced settings also. To get the best resolution and best FPS please.
@paulustrucenus
@paulustrucenus Жыл бұрын
Well, there are the default options. You question is confusing.
@Radek494
@Radek494 Жыл бұрын
Just use default mode. Native 4K, stable 60 fps and settings are high enough.
@shadowraziel69
@shadowraziel69 Жыл бұрын
@@Radek494 thanks a lot for your answer, no need to change some settings in advance settings ?
@funcreator1726
@funcreator1726 Жыл бұрын
Tom why is your audio / voice over always waay lauder than anyone else from DF? :D I always gotta lower the volume by 50% when you voice over
@raios-rogueboss-killer5853
@raios-rogueboss-killer5853 Жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed with capcom and my PS5's performance more PC like ports like this should become the standard of current gen consoles with so many options and every mode framerate can be unlocked to target 120fps only the frame-rate mode needs higher settings on PS5 as their is enough GPU headroom 16:17
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap Жыл бұрын
But you can turn up plenty of the individual settings, including the resolution!
@ajdaniel8128
@ajdaniel8128 Жыл бұрын
Most pc ports especially big AAA games are heavily unoptimized and run like crap compared to ps5
@yasirugimhan5841
@yasirugimhan5841 Жыл бұрын
16:55 Extra teraflops Left the chat 🤣🤣🤣
@bacardim390
@bacardim390 Жыл бұрын
Again, it depends on how the game is optimized. Don't be a clown, leave this comment on every video on DF that compares series X to PS5... but you can't, right, so shut up.
@yasirugimhan5841
@yasirugimhan5841 Жыл бұрын
@@bacardim390 why i need a xbox ? For what ? Ps5 has best games , best hardware and best performance
@frankiesab777
@frankiesab777 Жыл бұрын
The game is free on Gamepass, what other reason you need?
@killerfugu2659
@killerfugu2659 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit that 8% makes all the difference.
@yasirugimhan5841
@yasirugimhan5841 Жыл бұрын
@@frankiesab777 does gamepass free?
@jesseshaver2262
@jesseshaver2262 Жыл бұрын
So I can actually tell a difference when switching resolution between 100% and 125%. I didn’t think I’d be able to, but I can. Makes me wonder if eventually pushing resolutions past 4K may actually be worthwhile
@alondite215
@alondite215 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it will be worthwhile until AI upscaling gets closer to matching native resolution and we can render internally at lower resolutions and then use AI to upscale to save on performance, because sacrificing performance for raw pixel counts above 4K is like a cliff of diminishing returns.
@IchEsseHaende
@IchEsseHaende Жыл бұрын
4:17 what is causing this horrible shimmering/flickering?
@RobGMun
@RobGMun Жыл бұрын
What i plan to do is set it to the graphics mode and reduce the res from 4.8k doown to 4k, that should give it a solid 60fps
@paragon722
@paragon722 Жыл бұрын
I did this and it works great. I even added DoF on top and it looks great.
@MrKutKuGaruga96
@MrKutKuGaruga96 Жыл бұрын
Man, that's so cool. Give the chance to players to adjust settings like that... Best decision
@BaconTopHat45
@BaconTopHat45 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that just default with more steps?
@paragon722
@paragon722 Жыл бұрын
@Co Default is missing dynamic shadows and 1 other thing last I checked. So at worst its the same number of steps.
@yagami999913
@yagami999913 Жыл бұрын
I'm still IN AWE from the lightning fast loading times and the pc-style graphic options. I can't imagine myself playing without the "Classic" filter wich makes the game so beautiful.
@Aaron-od9ul
@Aaron-od9ul Жыл бұрын
Wait are the shadows no longer dithered? O_o If so that's a huge plus, and I hope the Steam release follows suit.
@veryDave
@veryDave Жыл бұрын
I would assume they still are, though live in hope. The dithered/hatched looking shadows not being a thing would be a nice uplift for the look of the game
@RobotPlaysGames
@RobotPlaysGames Жыл бұрын
That is so cool to see all those graphics options on consoles. I dunno, I'm a little torn. I worry that, if these options are widely adopted for console games, it might lead to devs spending less time/effort optimizing.
@Perpetuousdreamer92
@Perpetuousdreamer92 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic game and franchise and great port with an effective engine and great optimisation 😊
@vainbelmont6645
@vainbelmont6645 Жыл бұрын
Never seen a console game with so many options. Great port. RE engine does it again.
@jeremymiller3305
@jeremymiller3305 Жыл бұрын
I love hearing Tom's voice in the review. He speaks very clearly so you can understand him. He explains the graphics mode as easy to understand as possible. I want to try Monster Hunter Rise one day. I love the upgrades the PS5 and Series X bring. 60 fps is far better than 30fps plus it has more settings.
@VanTesla
@VanTesla Жыл бұрын
The great thing about how the game is set up is how it is already good for whatever next-generation hardware for the next console cycle. Well if there is one and if there is backward compatibility comparable or better. My long about point is that if the next system for Playstation and Xbox comes it can probably run all maxed. So 4.8K 120FPS locked with high shadow quality. So it has a long life outside most Monster Hunter games being long-lived already. Still, play World from time to time and Tri for nostalgic reasons.
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck Жыл бұрын
It seems that when Ray Tracing is not involved the PS5 consistently outperforms the Xbox series X console. This is a continuous thing as well. This goes to show that TFlops does not equate to theoretical gaming performance.
@lysandros765
@lysandros765 Жыл бұрын
There are games featuring RT like Ghostrunner (RT reflections) where PS5 outperforms XSX quite substantially at the same resolution. More recently in Calisto Protocol XSX has lower quality RT (later added) to be able to match PS5 performance/resolution profile. It will all depend on the engines and API/implementations, can go either way.
@danieldanoid9026
@danieldanoid9026 Жыл бұрын
Fps. Resolution is often higher on Xbox.
@deepinsight1175
@deepinsight1175 Жыл бұрын
@@lysandros765 these Xbox fanboys can't stomach the fact that ps5 is a beast. And as this generation moves forward the gap between the consoles will widen even further.
@jack_knife-1478
@jack_knife-1478 Жыл бұрын
@@danieldanoid9026 eh, what vids have you been watching 😂 you're seriously misinformed!😂
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Жыл бұрын
Marc Cerny told us. Guy’s a genius.
@subjectivereviews
@subjectivereviews Жыл бұрын
We need more of these options on other console games. Nice vid.
@MarlinAMB
@MarlinAMB Жыл бұрын
Everytime I see the capcom name, my mind is taken to the Goof Troop game and it`s load animations and music... pure nostalgia.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz Жыл бұрын
You should do something about the top end of your microphone when you edit the video. It sounds pretty grating!
@Nolasco.
@Nolasco. Жыл бұрын
So great to be able to play this at 60fps. Thanks Tom 👍
@AveryAwsomness
@AveryAwsomness Жыл бұрын
I love this game already
@lorenzovertemati4104
@lorenzovertemati4104 Жыл бұрын
I don't like the internal resolution scaler, I prefer the linear decrease in resolution, except in the case of fsr or whatever, because the image remains sharper even though the interface may slightly suffer
@shane_MK
@shane_MK Жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize it was coming out on the other consoles. I already played it on switch. The only way I could double dip is if my save data could be shared to another platform. And preferably at a discount.
@JuniusGaming
@JuniusGaming Жыл бұрын
Got it on the PS5 and its incredible
@rinaa6865
@rinaa6865 Жыл бұрын
Got it on Gamepass.
@wssayer
@wssayer Жыл бұрын
My son's has been playing it on my XSX with all settings on high. VRR is always on, so I wasn't aware the frame rate was dropping, and have been happy with the performance. I'm not going to start a game myself, as I've put more than 300 hours into the Switch version. Although the game looks better on the XSX, I've been perfectly happy playing the game on the Switch, and nothing I've seen changes my mind.
@squaresided
@squaresided 6 ай бұрын
While everyone is going back to World (UI is just too slow and clanky for me) I'm curious to see these Rise (way more streamlined) comparisons since I was on Switch when it first came out. My shiny new Series X will enjoy this Rise & Sunbreak now!
@Biyonzo
@Biyonzo Жыл бұрын
So what if i use Graphic mode on a 1080p 60hz screen? Does it still drop frames? On series X.
@MrKutKuGaruga96
@MrKutKuGaruga96 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because the game is still being rendered at an internal resolution, you playing on a 1080p monitor doesn't change rendering resolution to 1080p, it only affects output that's all
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