Slave owners and land owners did as such for centuries. That is how the big house and lavish lifestyles were paid for.

It doesn't though: their business model is connecting drivers to customers for a percentage of the fee.

@@seriouslyshortofnormal925 That’s pure Kool-Aid speak.

that's every corporation in america

@shacktime I have a very simple fix for this issue: let the drivers choose their rates and bid for jobs. There could be a 3-5 minute bidding window that closes with the lowest bid and Uber gets a standard percentage, or they could even change to a monthly subscription fee to use their infrastructure. No one forces anyone to drive for Uber.

So DON'T drive for them.

join a union

Get a taxicab license or a taxi driver license. Like the people you stole their bread did.

It’s insane to read these comments. I can’t wait til your job starts eating away at your pay and seeing ppl tell YOU to just “go find somewhere else to work” ALL of these jobs are eventually going in this direction. We ALL need to be fighting for equal pay. You don’t think your jobs are taking note on profitability?

Then find another job. Sorry, that's just the way it is. Get a small business loan, buy a stupidly expensive black SUV, and become a chauffer. I talk to the ones around where I live pretty often. They make 85-100k a year (granted, almost 80% of that goes into expenses - chiefly insurance). Try to avoid chauffer companies, they're as bad as Uber if not worse.

Now in bed with those taxis companies to make more

@@christhayer5498 Of course. Because that's capitalism baby!

Facts

@@FuelDropforthewin No, that's not capitalism. That's profiteering. Just one more way that people can mislead others to blame their actions on something else.

A 'monopoly'? Uber doesn't have any competition? It's more like Uber drivers are looking for the 'get rich quick scheme' but don't read the contract. "A monopoly is characterized by a single company supplying a good or service, a lack of competition within the market, and no similar substitutes for the product"

Don't forget your employer taxes as well. (Social Security and Medicare)

Uber had a policy of cutting driver pay every 6 months when I finally gave up. At a point where the car was costing more to operate than I could make after taking into account all vehicle expenses. That was before the pandemic. At this point all these companies are operating on the idea that drivers and their vehicles are easier to replace than maintain.

Yep, Uber and Lyft kept the prices really low until they destroyed all the local cab companies. Then they put the screws on us. It's dirty and rotten. I'm glad states and cities are banning the apps. Rich people suck😊, eat them!

I hope you have been building a little black book of customers who can contract with you directly ?

@@rrmackay technically illegal. Taxi drivers can do that but not Uber or Lyft Drivers. This is a huge part of the problem. Drivers for these companies do not have commercial licenses, are not subject to state or federal regulations on licenses for driving passengers and do not even have to conform to rules about criminal background checks. That is not even getting into all the fake accounts where one person signs up, but another person does the actual driving. The entire plan (like airbnb) is to not have any overhead or responsibility as they don't own the vehicles or owners' properties but to profit like they are real hotels or other actual businesses. It is the new way to scam the middle class for major profits for you or your stockholders.

why should they subsidize customers and drivers forever?

Because these companies take the money out of the company and funnel it to the boards crowd fund through he stock market never turn "profit" then look for a bailout from the government while also taking government funding to cover startup costs. It's criminal stock buybacks should be illegal.

@@kennethb6211 Saying anything should be illegal is lame, our nation is run by criminals, they craft laws to protect their criminal cronies from the public not the other way around.

What this country needs is competition for the market.

Go ahead and try build a cheap and fair version of Uber. It seems like you already got a lot of willing drivers in this comment section. Next up you just need to offer cheap rides to consumers

Yup. Rich gotta rich. 💪😎✌️ Poor gotta serve, suffer, and submit.

They need to he reigned in

I wish there were uber whistle-blowers

@@SalamHerbs-db5ntthey might get the Boeing treatment

Yup. If you ain't rich, powerful, influential, and well-connected, then you ain't nothin'. Get rich. Be rich. Else, you must serve, suffer, submit... and OBEY.

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And they’ll spend all of their profit trying to build Machines to replace humans rather than just paying humans a decent wage.

Part of their scam is getting the drivers to cover the cost of ownership, insurance, maintenance, gas, etc. If they owned self driving cars they would have to cover these costs.

There have been many fatal Tesla FSD crashes. Not to mention Chinese cars...

@@animusadvertere3371 A Tesla is not a self-driving car. Despite the name of the feature, it needs someone behind the wheel at all times.

@@gordonmills2748 There is no real self driving car yet. It's divided in 5 levels and the highest we achieved so far is level 4, where self driving is possible in very specific roads. Tesla is level 2. I think Mercedes had level 3 and stopped R&D on it, as level 5 is not feasible at the moment. The truth is, and most people who know anything about AI will concur - true FSD requires a GP-AI, and we have no idea how to get there. There is no prototype, no paper, no public hypothesis on how we can reach general purpose level in AI. We have to get there first, before we can talk about level 5 FSD.

XL vehicles must hold minimum 6 passengers plus a driver.

More like charging uber suv price and driver getting uber x fare Yes, that's happening coz stoopid drivers buy a leather seated car for uber x and xl where the riders actually paying for uber black and suv

The wealthy, powerful, influential, and well-connected control everything. If you're poor, weak, and unknown... you ain't sheet! 😂 You gotta serve, suffer, and SUBMIT. There's a word for what that is, too. 💪😎✌️

It’s literally like a 2 dollar difference. And you rarely get XL requests. I was doped into getting a SUV thinking I’d get more money. Boy was I wrong. Just paid more for gas. Uber are thieves!

Gotta give an exciting title for the youtube numbers. The system incentivizes scandal.

I would have been shocked if they planned to look after workers and pay taxes. Anything else is not shocking.

"The answer will NOT surprise you, it's capitalism, it's using investor capital to dominate market share and then squeezing". Come on guys, is this video title for people who've been in a 50-year coma?

Came to the comments to say this. It's been said, so I'm just going to leave a thought. The elites are eating up the country from the inside out. Leaving America hollow and weak.

yup..... Who would have thought? companies making profit by screwing over employees? damn.... the actual definition of profit is "Salaries that have not been paid"

Damn straight!!! Full time, Union, or bust!

Please boycott these industries. Their employees should have 0 income

Uber drivers are actually not contractors. They’re employees that are misclassified as contractors. More like employees on flexible schedule. They don’t have the full autonomy to do their jobs like contractors do.

Contractors - TRUE contractors - should be allowed to be what they are. Temps/Seasonal/Part time should have a limit of 90 days. After 90 days (not consecutive) it should be required by LAW that they be taken on as W2 employees. The whole 'part time with zero benefits' should be illegal. Even if they can't find use for an employee more than 20 hours they should be given the same benefits as those who work full time. And executive pay should be limited to no more than 200x that of the lowest paid employee in the company. (for a $10/hr minimum employee wage that's 2 million a year - MAX - for executives). What's left goes into the corporate coffers and are then taxed appropriately - and can allow reduced cost of product, improved employee benefits & wages. So, for the executives to get a raise they have to raise the lowest wage in the company - TO INCLUDE UNPAID POSITIONS SUCH AS INTERNS. Which means if they employ interns they get paid 200x that... All benefits such as stock and profit sharing should follow the same multipliers, with 'consultants' and other non-corporate positions maxing out at 25x.

And all while completely violating the employment guidelines that define each of these categories.

yeah it would be nice if the engineers of this company just ran these in each city for a small profit it could be called Austin Rideshare or NYC Rideshare, becuase this is a software company that's it, but if someone did that they would probably end up like the guy who used to work for Boeing.

Most of their losses are legal fees to keep drivers pay low. That how shitty elites are they rather lose money than help anyone out.

Uber and Lyft can’t make money keeping almost 50% of the fair but the drivers are supposed to be able to Pay all the vehicle expenses and still have a wage?

Yes, Uber is not a value add and only exists due to regulatory capture and anticompetitive practices. They are a technology platform that could be replicated for zero cost, and has in the past been subsidized by the state, meaning the source code should be seized and implemented on a public chain with 100% revenues going to drivers.

@@dustinbicknell2690 Yes , they would rather spend billions looking for new drivers rather than paying the current drivers

the stock market demands you treat your employees as a valueless commodity. as long as shareholders are involved, they will be the true reason for all business decisions

They are predatory

It's not a valuable skill. That's why the best advice is to get out. In order for both of them to stay competitive they both have to have the same business model.

Drivers become a valueless commodity the moment they say yes to their shitty deals, then expect "help" from the outside in the form of regulations or unions. It's absurd. I quit the moment I saw my profit going down because of competition from other drivers that they purposely hire there. People need to grow common sense!

@@japprivera3129 Exactly, being an uber driver is like being a fast food worker. You are not a valuable member of the team, just a commodity to be used to make a profit.

This is what I hate about monopolies. They destroy all the small business competition and then your forced to use the service or go without. It is a ridiculous practice and should not be allowed. We all knew what would happen after Amazon took over. There are fewer places to shop outside of the biggest stores to buy anything and prices are the most unaffordable they have ever been.

@@margaritoamargo6347Uber is also burying public transit too…so it’s worse because of all this too. And traffic is worse because of all the deadheading that rides gare causes (driving without a fare).

The market was never free

we need to start looking at any company with over 10% of the marketshare to be dangerous, and not allow it to happen. if monopoly isnt the right word, then we need a new word.

​@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr "Oligopoly"

No no. See 40% IS monopoly territory unless it is a duopoly. At 40% you get to set the prices for every service hands down, and the standards too boot. Again, unless someone has more market share nationwide. We should be worried when anyone has 2% of the market share by area covered. (I.E. to adjust for population and local costs by only looking at area covered and what percentage of that total landmass is served by the companies in question) That might sound absurd. Until you look at US history. From before the declaration of independence was signed until 1979 multi-State companies where fully illegal. For a reason. You had to export across state lines. the reason? STATES ARE NATIONS. The united states are a collection of 50 Vassel nations. Not pick an choose when its convienent 50 vassel nations, but always 50 vassel nations, under whats supposed to be... leaderless governance of treaties, by treaties and constitutions.. plural. with mutliple constitutions and each nation is supposed to be a true democracy at beck and call to the popular voice therin. The only things States aint supposed to be allowed to do is limit rights prior granted to people, leave the US, and violate the constitions amd treaties, and those treaites are the highest law of the land period end of story. Like. fricken heck the entire US went slowly crazy these past 45 years. And its all been over greed. And its all just a repeat of 1890-1930. And its all just increadibly stupid. and that include Uber. Sorry to vent.

@@AnonymousAnarchist2 no need to apologise. It's perfectly understandable and you comment extremely informative

any type of completely free market will 100% of the time tend to a monopoly. Competition is nice while no one has won it... but somewhere down the line, someone will.... and even if "someone comes and beat them" comes true someday, the monopoly will still be there, just being exercized by someone else. Competition in free market is a myth.

Austin call their bluff over background checks and when Uber left Austin locals started ride share companies to fill the vacuum. Any large city will see this happen. We don't need Uber.

From what I read, Minneapolis is also establishing some alternate rideshare companies. Three have been approved.

@@puggirl415Yes , they need to go out of business.

100%

They are independent contractors, which means the drivers can make deductions on business expenses.

Yeap.

@@ryantetreault3447 , yes but those deductions are less then 1/2 the cost of doing business.

@@ryantetreault3447 If you think the drivers are genuinely treated like independent contractors you have no idea what that actually means and entails.

Drive the bus instead, its more fun.

My friends visited Boston for 3 days and racked up 285 dollars on Uber. If they had gone with Green Cab, they would have saved 175 dollars. It didn't even occur to them to check local taxi prices. When I pointed out the difference, they were astonished. They paid a hundred dollars to take an Uber 5 blocks away. They literally could have walked to the place in ten minutes.

They’re taking 55-63% of fares. Current driver, here. The only way for us to determine the actual take rate is to ask passengers what they’re paying for their rides. I began asking over the course of this last month, and can confirm that their take rate has increased exponentially. It’s out of control! The fact that he lies with such ease reveals everything you need to know about his character, morality and ethics. I’m leaving and focusing on my own business.

The US government is failing the working class, PERIOD, FULL STOP. Until those holding the money have it stripped away and redistributed (which would never have been necessary prior to Reagan and all of the polices that have been carried down ever since - by BOTH parties) the working class will always get f*cked over.

Look up who Tony West is.

Then stop dealing with them

Why don’t you quit your job too ? Why should I have to not deal with them when their the one’s breaking labor laws. They need to change not me.

@@joegug4751 first they are not breaking any laws. And second, you are a crony. You want the government to use force to obtain from others something you can t earn on your own. The proper response to not getting the deal you want is to decline it, not to use the government to extort what you want.

​​@@maximemeis2867 They are in fact breaking many laws, but the government refuses to hold them accountable.An they obviously have you fooled.

​@@maximemeis2867this guy all over this thread defending uber lol what a LOSSSSERRRRRRRRRRRR They dc about you toolbag

Drivers will do that in the US also

@@ErkanAkaltun I really hope you guys do. And make it open source so that unions in other states or countries can also use it.

@echooscar5241 Yes, we designed global software structure with localization, which means SaaS . Some people call it MaaS. Indeed there are difficulties to name the model because it is not commercial. Btw, where r u located?

@@ErkanAkaltun😯 what is it called? I hope it gets widely adopted! I'm from the southern part of India.

@echooscar5241 only taxis can work on rideshare platforms in India, right? Private cars already banned?

Meanwhile, make sure you tip your drivers.

@@Arthur-Silvano

@@Arthur-Silva I wish your answer was less tipping. Tipping is out of control and we need to make that clear.

@@rarephoenix Whether tipping is out of control or not, if you take rides without tipping: you are the problem.

@@nikidelvalle Uber spent the first two or three years very, very diligently and carefully training their passengers they did not have to tip. Drivers made more than enough. After that it was set in stone.

Uber eats is a joke.

They dangle that carrot and people keep chasing it.

I try to!

@@Anne2u the pay is horrible I would rather use a cab. At least the person gets more. Here in Atlanta a cab is cheaper anyway.

@@Anne2u Most drivers I know are on multiple apps at the same time. If all uber usage goes to a different app they'll either already get the same ride or just install that one too.

The drivers are doing it to themselves.

If you want to help drivers, don't stop taking rides, support alternative ridesharing apps that treat drivers fairly and use them when they become available.

So profit after exspenses is ? 20$ 15 $

Good god that's robbery

Which makes you bad at math. After a leased is paid a taxicab driver would keep a whole lot more after expenses.

@@serafinacosta7118 k

i thought employers taking your tips was illegal

@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr it technically is. They didn't tip tho

As someone who's never thought of driving for Uber myself, what is making you and other drivers stick with it? Because you are actively losing money on that, after all the car, insurance etc costs money too. It feels like you'd be doing better covering some shifts in a minimum wage job - not that I'd recommend that, but it does serve to point out just how bad a deal it is.

Yes Uber is taking to much money from each fare. However, why are you driving around without a fare? Drive to the nearest hot area after dropping off a fare. Park and sit there and wait with your car off. Driving around doesn't make you more likely to get a ride. Heck, honestly, I bet you'd still make more money if you just even drove a block away from the dropoff spot and parked there. ... as long as the drop off spot wasn't in BFE.

@@csr7080 Uber runs very elaborate scams to lure drivers. For the first month or two you actually make decent money. Then they rip the rug out from under you and leave drivers who invested in the job to twist in the wind. Also, Uber’s (and Lyft’s) executive boards are staffed to the gills with former Democratic appointees and the like. Look up Tony West.

No, anecdotes aren't proof. Data is proof

@@Wesley-rn7oc The data can be found in their trip receipts and ride manifests. Then you run that against their operating costs. Many drivers operate in the red, which is why the churn rate in “ride share” is among the highest ever in any industry. That fact alone proves there’s no money in the job.

You did well.

No Uber, no Skip the Dishes, no Air BnB and no Hello Fresh for me.

@@nadinegriffin5252 same here sister :)

@@nadinegriffin5252 old fashioned gal.

Or maybe because of the government involvement in creating a medallion market in the first place that costed millions of dollars ! I never understood why someone has to pay a million bucks to drive other people around !

Not just NYC.

Why was there mdeaillion if not to reduce supply and capture a market by regulation?

The medallion system was a monopoly as well.

@@dontbeafool Without the medallion system, NYC would have been drowning in taxis and fares would be undercut. It wasn't a perfect system but it did ensure that cabbies got reasonable fares and there weren't too many of them to undercut one another.

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Except these CEOs are devout Marxists

I feel like we need more Steinbecks and Upton Sinclairs

Criminalize the poor and defend the rich.

Also, exploitation of their customers. They don't give a crap about any of the people who actually use their services. They only care about scamming as much money as possible for their shareholders, who they see as their REAL customers.

Uber is a centralized business indirectly sponsored by the state and a middleman overcharging everyone, it's as Soviet as it gets.

CEO’s and shareholders have a lifestyle to maintain

Uber was paying for a good portion of each ride, paying the drivers more than the riders paid so that they could monopolize the market. Once they have a monopoly, they can do whatever they want with prices.

Need to add the incompetent customer service people they hire in India to handle problems drivers or customers have

And your driver got 7$. I'm Uber driver

That was the catch when Uber started. All I ever heard was, " you don't have to tip". An I thought to myself it's a service industry, so why wouldn't you tip ? It was a hook , line and sinker move obviously.

Most likely a company that is just using the Lyft name charging your CC they got ahold of.

Would be better if you cancel your order and pay cash. If Uber charged you 40$ driver get around 15-18. So pay the driver 30 and all of you would be happy

I have one year old daughter. Today I was driving in Chicago for 8 hours. I earned 118$. 100 miles. We have to sleep on one bed in one room. Tomorrow I go to the shop and buy cheapest food for my daughter. Thank you Uber

Or, you can say it'd be a more perfect union.

There are several companies spread across various cities. You just have to find out which one is in the city you’re in.

Co-ops really need to go mainstream worldwide.

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Unfortunately too many people refuse to stop working for these scam companies. If everyone just stopped doing Uber than Uber would either have to start actually hiring drivers or go out of business. Sorry to state the obvious. Seems redundant at this point

@@stevenotero2627 Ah, welcome to our current economy, where people are suffering so much economic anxiety, they're looking for gig work. Most Uber drivers aren't full-time drivers, they have full time jobs and use Uber as a means of earning enough money to make ends meet. So, yes, people shouldn't work for Uber, but if you want that to be the case, you need all the rest of corporate America to decide to pay their employees living wages so that gig work isn't a viable industry.

Uber put the taxi company in our town of business. There's about 100k people in the city limits and another 200k in the suburbs and outskirts.

Or a video about the fact that they pay pretty much all the income taxe

Unfortunately politicians won't allow that. You know they are on the pay roll