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this is so underrated

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Explains the tyrabites

He is the 10th dentist that doesnt recommend other toothpastes

Lol

damn criminal

The dentist gave him a toothpaste that has 10% more fluoride then is allowed to be sold over the counter.

@@Dreamweaver_Skunkbag any evidence it wasn't the other way around? What if he was the first who posted the comment? What if they both had the same idea? You all "stealed comment" guys are nothing but clowns

Maybe he IS the 1/10 dentist

Underrated 🤣

Ok

@@staringgasmask Yes, if you scroll down there is a comment by a username Tensio from 1 year ago, 10k likes. It reads "ling is hiding a toothpaste 10/10 dentists reccomend..." and in that comment thread, Evan Radford comments "He is the 10th dentist that doesn't recommend other toothpastes". These comment are all from 1 year + ago. This posters comment is from 6 months ago.

"Accidentally"

@@isiahaf1359 Yea, that's a bitch of a word alright, it caused me some confusion a few times recently because the spell checker doesn't even flag it. accidentily (flagged) accidently (not flagged) accidentally (obviously not flagged) But I think I've got it down now!

@@JoeBob79569 Well... Ling was dentally challenged! 😉

Yes. I think it may be considered having 2nd thoughts [sic]. Oops.😶

Me when I trip and fall and accidentally code up bootleg Netflix

It seems like the creepy names might have been a scare tactic to keep things on the down low

I was totally thinking he just had all Disney movies on that website

Miimikyu Idk Wouldn’t you want to instead have them be boring names so people don’t get interested?

That’s one way to think the guy who had the site might have thought differently

Yeah but, he was actually using it to pirate movies so you would think hey might want to keep it

Jesus I think you just might be correct about this.

“Not dead but dreaming” Yeah I thought something similar lol

Folks forget how different the web was in the 90's. And life before torrents. Napster was king and you needed storage space for files.

@@masterluxu1 and it was on Cthulhu.net

@@johnnygreenface4195 Yeah, it's like no one researching this mystery has ever read lovecraft. That reference was pretty on the nose.

So there's also probability ling store his patient info (illegally)? Like tooth formation and stuff

Precisely. thank you Dr Z. Mortise (or Mortice) acts as a bridge between his video server and circle of family & friends. Speaking of Ling: the interior side of each tooth (closest to the tongue) is called the 'lingual' side..

@@SoulDuckling126 I suppose that's a possibility. But it seems like the genesis of the website occurred long before digital x-rays and electronic medical records (EMR) were commonplace. Medically speaking, the only thing that could realistically take up as as much data as the server was reported to contain would be tens of thousands of uncompressed, high-resolution digital radiographic studies. Seems well beyond the scope of a single dentist's practice. Regardless, what would be the upside for Ling to create a pirate EMR system? Convenience? Would definitely be outweighed by the insane number of man hours required to scan individual x-ray films into the system. And I doubt his office(s) had the tech resources to even make use of such a thing in practice at that point in time. Besides, I don't think anyone would be willing to risk their career for something that trivial. But, that's just my two cents.

Interesting!

Unrelated, but after seeing your username, I'm imagining that your MD (or DO) degree is printed out in all c̷̢͓̗̍u̸̗̓͗͑r̵̛̺̉s̴̩̰̊̅e̸̛̗̦̻̾d̷̛͎̈́͒ ̷̲̙̭̏t̵̯͇̎̓e̶͓̝͓̒x̶̘̅ẗ̶̪̺͕͌̂ and there's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise.

I've been on the receiving end of something like this, it was horrible.

This comment seems very forced, is there someone pointing a gun at your head? From the way you use commas I deduct that you have MS and a scar on your left middle finger while you wrote this. I will contact the police now at 5am to your house to send help

@@greenblood2313 lmao

@@drumslayer27 hmmmm would love to know more

West Dakota?

Honestly when I first heard about the big sized, locked files and the FBI possibly being involved, my mind went straight to child p*rnography and other types of illegal and morally corrupt things, none of which were pirated regular movies, I'm a bit ashamed of how panicky paranoid that first reaction was lol

I'm sorry but the "hosting a network of ripped movies so they can stream them on a video player on the website and it was shut down by the FBI" is possibly the single most retarded "conclusion" you've ever come up with on this channel -- especially when you consider that you would have to literally download the file > re-upload it to the video player > be online to watch it. This would be possibly the most tedious, retarded, and impractical thing a single human could do. Also, you really think a "movie file" would be 25GB? A fucking movie file? What was it recorded in, 40K?

@@sirdamned9272 A "lossless" blu-ray rip would be about 25GB and those movies are only at 1080p. 4K UHD blu-ray movie rips are around 50GB+, but such discs weren't around at the time; let alone rips.

@@sirdamned9272 ...well, why not? Back in those days VHS was still fairly common. Dude just ripped his movie collection to a private website so he could watch anything from it while in a hotel somewhere, probably using a wired connection on an laptop of the time. Clunky and slow, but better than carrying a ton of videos around, and probably not much worse image quality (my "HD" movie ripper refuses to rip VHS to anything over 320x280

480th like

hm....

Harvard boutta offer you some fat scholarships

*The FBI wants to know your location*

My fav comment

That made me genuinely laugh, thank you!

i think it was a very common name a hundred years ago but less so now. apparently the most popular guy's first name now is liam

only one I know of is that dude from pocahontas

There's actually an in-universe lore for Doctor Who that says The Doctor using the alias of John Smith everywhere over the course of the universe's timeline is actually why it's considered common. Most John Smith's are actually just him. Obv just fiction, but it's a very interesting mythos!

I met 1 his was white we went to 6th grade together. I only knew his last name was Smith because some is mine and whenever it came to name in order he was right b4 me

It isn't a common name, it's a generic name used by many companies and businesses

Ohhh makes sense. The dentist i went to had no tv though. Just a bright lamp and some piano music lol

Nah, they just told me to "say ah if hurts" then yanked my teeth out while I screamed. Fucking dentists... Well, I probably would have thrown the headphones away in the strugle.

The website must be full of the Lorax and the Ice Age movies

This is exactly what I thought

When I first started watching and heard about the other things connected to Thomas Ling, I immediately thought snuff films hidden so him his and fellows can avoid the law but as everything started being pieced together, this is really the most likely situation. Dude probably had a shit ton of media on there, probably films and personal things. He probably saw people digging and didn't like people digging into his life, so he got rid of it.

I'm sorry but the "hosting a network of ripped movies so they can stream them on a video player on the website and it was shut down by the FBI" is possibly the single most retarded "conclusion" you've ever come up with on this channel -- especially when you consider that you would have to literally download the file > re-upload it to the video player > be online to watch it. This would be possibly the most tedious, retarded, and impractical thing a single human could do. Also, you really think a "movie file" would be 25GB? A fucking movie file? What was it recorded in, 40K? Was "Drive Angry" by Nicholas Cage 15 hours long?

@@sirdamned9272 "most tedious, retarded, and most impractical thing a person can do" have you seen what people do to get their kicks.

@@sirdamned9272 An MPEG-4 1080p video with lossless audio encoding is 20+ gb. Most blu-rays are around that size. If it's 4K or particularly long you're looking at an even larger file size.

@@sirdamned9272 Srsly? 25GB is perfectly plausible for a movie unless you're only downloading low bitrate crap from public trackers. I have plenty of 20-30 GB pirated movies and some 40+ GB longer ones.

Ryan Pants it could be a bunch of movies all thrown together in one file

*Exactly*

I guess it just aint for all of us

It sounds like a dad name

Dude was a domain squatter and decided to put one of his domains to work for a bit. I'm not sure what's so mysterious about that, especially in the context of the land grab for common word domains in the late 90s

@Alexander Supertramp no u

Someone hack the acCOUNT NOW NOW NOW NOW

@@divastarz5039 WE NEED TO GET THAT MICROWAVE! WE NEED PERFECTLY COOKED DUMPLINGS WITH NO COLD CENTERS!

Jude Keirt J it’s time I don’t use a steamer for my steam buns because of my lazy ass

Finally a worthy opponent for my Hot Pockets

I dont remember making this comment.

I agree. Really enjoy his content.

Here before this channel blows up

Absolutely agree 100%

Sean Yager there are a few channels that grow this fast and they’re all owned by YT...in other words, YT employee manning the channel so YT can reclaim the ad revenue it pays out...then they kill off other channels doing the same subject matter by issuing out citations on the basis of violating its policies...this way the channel has less competition...no way does a channel grow this fast organically.

its happening, hes gaining subs rapidly

The Cthulhu site refers to Cthulhu

​@@calliecalamity8787no shit.

For such an unoriginal comment, I’m surprised you don’t have hundreds of likes!

Duckroll

@@croquemaster314 Thank You!

@@croquemaster314 He has now

Florida man is not one person, he is a Hivemind stored in multiple persons

yea. A family man ahead of his time just trying out the interwebs for movies, dentist biz, and personal websites for each family member

ぽぴぽろPopiporo it’s just a ”cool” word.

ぽぴぽろPopiporo Given the logical explanation provided, there are two logical reasons: (1) He was truly an HP Lovecraft fan and Mortis/Death is part of the morbid theming (2) if he, and others, were actually working on a Netflix type player / service they intended to one day go get capital funds for and such, it’s quite common to use a code name for such a project and such a code name could be personal, or mean something - in this case, if ambitious, “Death of the DVD industry” (i.e. he thought they were on to something so significant that it would spell doom for traditional industry).

Richard Ludwig okay... doesn’t explain the other websites though, like crossfitdiet lol

Star Pillars - It does if it means this person is an entrepreneur. Some people have a million business ideas and start companies or start planning companies as a matter of course. It could have easily been a situation where he registered 10 domains - four for family, three for business, and three for hobbies. They may not actually have any connection to each other beyond the desire to start new ventures. Some probably sat stagnant while work proceeded on others. That’s the way some people work. You see this even in the patient space - get ideas, sketch them out, file patients, see what sticks, and let the others sit - then maybe one day a company actually produces something and you sue for patient violation. Point is, based on what’s been uncovered, it seems like he had some ideas, and didn’t want anybody snooping around his ideas.

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down

LMAOO, terabites of information which is just the link over and over, thats actually hilarious

Or it could be the video edited to make itself play about a million or so times.

the reason why it's in terabytes is because its incredibally high quality sound and video. instead of taking it from the master they produced a very close copy of it, even going as far as getting rick himself to sing, in the highest possible quality. the video was either taken from film (if the original music video was created on film) or as the sound was completely re-created in the most incredible quality. Tom Ling is possibly one of Rick's ex wive's cousin's close friend's son. idk tho he might just be some random dude.

That's probably the whole idea here! Nobody seems to know the whole picture. Some people have different pieces of the same puzzle. Maybe, they could share notes and put it together. Thanks, Man..

That man needs to be found

Those are readily available though?

@@justinlast2lastharder749 No, humanity is far from achieving such levels of forwardness.

People are SLEEPING on this comment. Cheers man.

You might be onto something but somebody in an earlier thread named doctors they said that in the dental industry there is the word mortise and it is probably short for that and it means a bridge ... such as a dental bridge .

xD no he's hiding the finished product to Bubble Bass's order

this one. yes this one

Chemical x from powderpuff girls

Ravioli ravioli, give me the formuoli

Original ans underrated

shut up

@@yourboyedsel5803 Chill out.

TheTimoprimo shut up

@@FylMarite Chill out

@@jbrown59 shut up

That's when he got the domain, not when the files were there.

I think your math is off, it would take way longer to download 40gb on a 28K modem! 39Gb is 40894464Kb. 28.8 kilobits is 3.6Kbps. 40894464 / 3.6 = 11359573 seconds or ~131 days

This is an underrated comment.

cicada is calling me

@@luxotiica4223 CICADA

😁

Wtf

Lol, true true

Damn no replies for 4 months tho hmm or maybe some ppl just got their replies deleted

This was one of the few comments that was clever and made me laugh, thanks

"Homework"?! For what? Quantum physics? The comments are better than the video itself. Funny as shit! Thanks, Man..

@@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache Probably right. I've seen some of mine vanish. Good point!

makes sense, my friend's dad is a photographer and when i went to his house there was a shit ton of sd cards

It could also easily be a misspelling.

It could also be mortice, as in mortice and tenon joinery

AKA a deadbolt lock?

Jase Sandefur same thing, different spelling (US vs U.K.)

Mortis is also latin for dead

Sporange: the part of a fern that produces spores

That’s it.

orange 4 inch door hinge

Eminem already have the answer.

Listen to Eminems Brain Damage, Brainless and Buisness

but what about the ad revenue

That's what I was thinking too, I knew it was a Lovecraft reference

Indeed, it is. I have the Donaldson version of the Necrononicin and that version goes into detail about this. The smaller, black version most people are familiar with doesn't. I have both. Something else - both versions are referring to the Ananakki. That's the reason I boeught them. I'm not a satanist. I was interested in Ancient Aliens and, one day came across it at BAM. Flipping through, I noticed the 'Book of 50 Names' and from reading Sitchen's 'The 12th Planet' knew exactly what it was. I had never made that connection before. It also connects them to the Tower of Babel - 2 other chapters contained within. You are correct! Some good comments and sharp people here! Thanks, Man..

Dead to eyes, But ever dreaming is from The Black Dahlia Murder

@@derrick15 Really? I did not realize that fact. I should known that too because I'm..well, I thought I was pretty familiar with that case as it's as notorious as it was! That's a small tidbit only an in-depth read could provide. Do you remember what the name of that particular book was? Ya got my curiosity peeked now. What I, myself was referring to was a specific chapter of my 'Donaldson' version of the Necronomicon. That version talks about the underground/water location of the 'resting' place of Cthulhu himself, under the ruins of Babylon, if I remember right. The book's downstairs at the moment. But..he's described in detail in that iteration. Our local brick n mortar "witch's shop" has many versions which makes it confusing as to who is closest to Lovecraft's original script. I bought this one for it's story on the events of the completion (and activation) of the tower of Babel. Apparently, it was built by the Anannakki with men as slave labor. The account mentions 4 cornerstones made of a mineral not of this earth and engraved with strange symbols. These, obviously, were placed at it's base and it was 'alledged' to have been a portal..or, stargate. Upon activation, it glowed strange unknown colors..but, a white beam then shot straight down from the heavens directly into it, causing it to explode killing all the workers and their 'masters' too, like a nuclear detenation! Whether that story is true or not, I don't know but, it did put an interesting spin on this whole ordeal. Especially, when you consider places like Mohenjo-daro in the Indus valley in India. There's vitrofacation EVERYWHERE and bodies are still in the streets, frozen in time - like a nuclear blast took place! Trinitite is the name given to the 'glass' found at detenation site like the Glass Lake in Los Alamos. It's name comes from the project "Trinity".. digression, I know..but, it's needed to fill this picture I'm drawing for you. Back to the Necronomicon. The small, black, more known version I also have and that's only because I learned it contained "The Book of 50 Names". These were the 50 in charge of the 250 Anannakki that were alleged to have to come to Earth from Nibiru. Each one has its own symbol to represent it. Putting the dots together, it dawned on me that I'd seen these before - and NOT on Ancient Aliens either! These are the same symbols used to invoke or summon demons! That's all it is. The same old demons, playing the same old games, lying to humanity..only, today they now have a modern day paint job. Now, they're 'friendly space brothers' from Zeta Reticulie. Mm, hm. Sure. They got groovy new hotrods too..that defy physics and do impossible manuevers and everybody's happily waiting for their arrival - because they told ALL of those ancient cultures (Maya, Egyptian, Sumarian etc) that, one day they will return. Well, the way it's looking in this hell hole, they never left! Thanks for letting me talk you to death. I know. It's long. I'm famous for making commentary instead of comments. There's a huge (literally!) difference an I really should be doing this on a blog or somewhere more appropriate. For that, I do apologise. I do thank you very much for the cool piece of trivia. I learned something today already and I haven't been outta bed for a half hour yet!

@@duanemcclure8324 Ever heard the real reason why Iraq was invaded? I'm talking about the museum that held some type of energy source in the basement. Whoever invaded that museum whether it be Special Ops or some other affiliation, skipped all high price valuables such as gold and all sorts of gems and went straight towards the basement where this energy source was supposedly hidden. They got what they wanted and got out of there in a rush with black hawks

Crazy funny

LMAO 😆!🤘🍃

audibly kekd

🐕🐕. 🐕🐕

Lmfao 🤣

Mauve maybe he just really likes the book and decided to reference cthulhu for cthulhu.com and the dead people for mortis.com. Also maybe, (a fact stated in yhe video that im surprised was never mentioned again) him being an artist is what he references as the dream that is dead, ”but still dreaming. “

@@kimquat_ cthulhu did target artists most of all

@@lordtoademort8124 yes that too i overlooked that part D: man, mr. ling must have been driven to insanity too

Kim Elaydo cuh lulu

@Ryan Dupee s t o p

Don't apologize for art.

It is he who couldnt Dentist

Loui I just laugh spit milk all over my shirt...it came out my nose... thank you...

Phil_ling sound like filling?! That's something to try

@1 2 shitdick im crying

Damn, didn't thought of that!

Big brain moment

@@theonewhobullies BIG BRAIN

You’re smart dude

Smart comment son

My dad did the same thing.

Jake Hankins My dad used to come into my room at night for ‘special time’

Maybe you all had a same dad. But you never knew.

@Jafet_iv statue of limitations for piracy is five years. I'd say we are pretty safe for that.

@@justamanofculture12 and he's hiding under Thomas Ling.

Piracy sites have been there from the start

Ento: The Chesnaut Knight people who downloaded torrents are usually internet dwellers. They probably would have come accross this mystery and die laughing knowing it was for torrents 😂

@marsxo prolly

Nah dude. This theory is utterly retarded and makes 0 sense. Frankly, his speculation in this video is lazy and irresponsible. All he had to do was stop for 4 seconds to consider what he was saying. Literally, his entire theory about this was based around the name of 1 file that was TWENTY FIVE GIGABYTES. Good lord... you think a movie is going to be 25GB? Is the movie 15 hours long?

@@sirdamned9272 It's 1997, movie files in a good quality back then were generally storage eaters.

I really like HP Lovecraft, he's just a hard read sometimes.

@@Ironwind1972 Agreed he's a VERY hard read. Most of the time he's worth the wade, though.

Don't google the name of H.P. Lovecraft's cat.

Yeah, that's common knowledge, but it's do kinda spooky to find that randomly on a mysterious website with literally no other text on it.

Thank you. I was a little put off by the fact that he didn't look it up and it definitely rang as Lovecraftian to me.

Yes, it seems to me like people on the internet really wanted this to be more than it is. As if a dentist with a family is going to be hiding terabytes of child porn on a website that can be linked to his name.

I don't know much about hacking into things, so would the difficulty in breaking into the website be an anomaly or is that normal?

​@@liyre4189 this website had no security features other than a login page. Considering the people trying to break in were just random Reddit users manually brute-forcing, it's not really surprising nobody got in. If you don't know, "manual brute-force" is literally just typing in random username/ password combinations until you get one right. Most people now have bots that do it, and it's very popular for phishing paid accounts, but I doubt any Reddit user has ever known how to make a brute-force bot. Brute forcing is a sure-fire way to get access to an account on a website like Netflix, with millions of users and lists of known emails associated with Netflix accounts. This website likely didn't have over 100 or maybe even 50 users, and nobody had access to even a single username associated with it. Considering the fact that random Reddit users were able to find file names of media that was uploaded to the website, it's safe to say this website's security was nothing to be amazed by. A simple answer to your question, no, the difficulty of breaking-in to the website was nothing out of the ordinary. As for why he had a login page and refused to let people into the website, he was probably storing terabytes of movies that he was pirating to a few customers under retail price, which is a federal crime.

@@liyre4189 Pretty normal. To put it simply, most code is only written once then reused. So any website safety features have been written for other professional uses, this guy (probably) just used that same base code that had good safety features.

Cracked it!

We wanna see some spicy wedding photos dawg

Imagine having TERABYTES of wedding photos. I know a photographer and they don’t even have that many photos.

@@ultimatewolfexists2378 Exactly, just 1TB can be up to 2000hours of footage(provided it's not great quality), or around 100hours if it's 4k HD with super crisp audio, which would still be more than 4 whole days of nonstop filming.

@@ultimatewolfexists2378 a terabyte in the 90s wouldve been like having multiple exabytes of data today, most pictures and videos had small file sizes because hd wasnt a thing

@@liyre4189 what’s more astonishing is that they weren’t videos. I’m no expert but I assume photos take up a fraction of what one video would. That would mean that they have thousands upon thousands of photos.

He probably took it down and took his photos somewhere people won't try to steal

almost as if 4chan was leading the investigation not reddit but ok funny man

@@theclitcollector That's the joke he was saying that Reddit likes to play detective even though they don't know what they're doing.

@@zacharyturner2944 actually ye, that might be it

I hate that I laughed at this

"In his house at R'lyeh, *_dead_* Cthulhu waits *_dreaming."_* That's the source of it. But yeah, it still sounds pretty edgy.

"Dad But Dreaming"

@@boxcarz yep. Cthulhu is often referred to as dead but dreaming

Dead but Dreaming sounds like a song you’d hear in MCR’s Black Parade album

Dibs on band name.

>has an old pfp of pewdiepie >implies everyone is being uncreative

Zaiko LeBolsh ok

@@zaikolebolsh5724 Its OG Loc!

YOUVE BECOME THE VERY THING YOUVE SWORN TO DESTROY

Oh, Bikini Bottom, we pledge our hearts to you, As faithful, as deep, as true, as blue, Bikini Bottom, we love you!

Or "In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming"

@@rykehuss3435 Glad someone posted about it, I was about to.

I think you got it dogg

You said a lot of stuff I lack firsthand experience with, and it seems just convoluted enough to be real. I cannot be bothered to fact-check. I clicked the thumbs-up button.

do you still use usenet? and are there usenet archives dating back to the very beginning? how does one start a usenet service?

@@yudosai Yes, I still use Usenet. There are not archives going back to the beginning for the newsgroups where files are posted because the sheer quantity of data is too large. Many terabytes of data is posted daily. For the text discussion groups, there are archives going all the way back. How far back a usenet service keeps things is referred to their 'retention' and its measured in days. I think 5000 days or so is common now for even the high-volume groups. To get started, you'll probably have to read up a bit. At a minimum you need an account with a Usenet provider. ISPs used to provide free usenet access for all users like they provide email accounts, but it got way too expensive and few were using it. So now you have to pay for an account, usually $10 a month or so. I use a company called Newshosting, but pretty much every company is the same in what they offer, although there's some differences like Easynews provides a good web interface while with most you will need a Usenet client application (a newsreader). Newshosting makes their own newsreader and its really good IMO. Once you have that, you might want to look for an 'indexer' which is a website that catalogs what gets posted where. Otherwise you won't be able to find the things with weird encoded names. There are many free indexers, and some private paid ones. Indexers usually offer NZB files you can download which contain a list of postings you select and then you load that into your newsreader and it will download the posts, decode them, join the files (they are posted very split up), repair any missing pieces, etc. It's really quite complicated compared to something like torrents just because it's so old and has been going for such a long time. The usenet servers themselves are basically peer-to-peer with each other, so things posted on one spread to the others after a few minutes.

Wow great to see I am not the only "old-timer" here on the web ... I joined Usenets way back in fall of 90 (first year of university)

38 gigs being a very common file size of a full HD uncompressed file

@@Tential1 he was ripping 4K Blu-Ray back in 1998??

@@salvatronprime9882 i was doing that in the 50s

@@BeeHatGuy Thee fool! I hast been doing so since the 1500's!

The MP4 and MP3 codecs werent very common back in the late 90s, so there's a good chance that they are raw AVI files, which can take up a good deal of space.

@@stonksmcmeme All due to its name being the Latin word for death.

That you didn’t link… :(

@@georgesracingcar7701 just do a whois lookup

C64 BBS boards, while not the earliest, were pretty common pre-www internet domains

I’m so proud of both of you

Frank LoTurco I’m pretty sure Epic Games uses Commodore 64s as its servers for Fortnite.

+ a family man lol weirdly wholesome

And the anime guys

It's somewhere down south.

90-60-90 gotcha m8

r/sep20

They’re holding the Kyles hostage

Yup. I love wanting to know the truth about these things more than actually knowing it :)

That's the charm of it,as the saying goes "It's not about the destination,it's about the journey"

This reminds me of Geedis. That turned out to be so anticlimactic after everyone found out what is was.

Basically, conspiracy theories in a nutshell. Especially the obvious ones, like Bigfoot. Many love that creep-down-your-spine feeling

I like the feeling of knowing. Something about the journey tbh

Since you're someone who was there from the beginning, I'm curious what you think of Sociable's theory. To me it lines up pretty well, but what do you think? Also, what were the most common theories back then, if you remember?

I was there in the Skype group! I was the 4chan poster that went by the handle John Wilkes Booth in 2011 and I think Greaterkamudo in the Skype group. Every time I leave a comment on here of my involvement, it disappears. You're right though, Thomas was the one who shut the site down, he came into the wiki irc chat after someone posted about it on /b/ and they started brute forcing the site. Barely socialable says there's no evidence of other businesses being associated with ling, but what about Jerry and the parking lot in Pennsylvania, and their connection to the lamp company together. The lodge in Washington State too! You remember, right?

I’m sorry, I’m not very into the scene culture so could you explain what a old guard is?

@@ChapoChaos it's just another term for a veteran, meaning he's been doing it for a long time

Yep, came to the same conclusion.

So the piracy community i'm assuming would give out the username and PW to access the site and download the ripped movies, music etc? Cause if that's the case why hasn't anyone who used that site for that purpose come forward about it, I mean its over 20 years later its not like they're gonna be getting in trouble for that now. But furthermore what about the security for the site, it was able to withstand hundreds of attacks and attempts to access it by hackers so i'm assuming it was pretty top grade security for the time so how/why would a dentist have any knowledge about that kinda stuff?

Matthew Combs tbf the piracy community is really tight knit-- you can't just pass info about certain sites or you get your invite revoked or you're basically not allowed to download anything anymore plus with the large gb files, and relations with usenet, it's probably more likely that the login screen wasn't even a real login at all just speculating, though

I can make that voice

Mørtîs

Bortis

SMØRTeeS

@Propelli that's from _Faith,_ right?

Hosting 39Gb of files is NOT cheap, there is definitely something there. The movie theory makes the most sense with what we are presented here

@@ErinLynagh It's not cheap, but it's not overly expencive either depending on the time it was being hosted, where the files are being hosted, etc. I would bet, if it wasn't movies, it was just a way to draw attention to the site in an effort to sell it off later. A popular site with the name "MORTIS" that has a pension for being creepy? Would rake in quite the dough.

Nah, it was a piracy site

Roderick storey Probably not. Mortice is an extremely rarely used word. The Latin “Mortis” (meaning death) really fits here.

According to the other comments here, this theory is pretty bs.

Makoto Itoshi THIS

It’s filled with bootleg movies, and that’s illegal actually.

Its actually quite hard to bruteforce the site if it has a huge random password with numbers and symbols in it.

just dont ask me why I know it and were friends xd

mpeg-2 is the real horror story here

@@helloofthebeach it truly is lol

@@yugimumoto1 it's not mpeg 2 it's mpeg 1 audio layer 2.. just like mp3 is mpeg 2 audio layer 3

The domain name woukd lead you to think it's snuff films but finding terabytes worth of those in the late 90's seems a bit of a stretch lol.

@@dentistguba The domain name just makes me think he was a goth at some point, or maybe into Norweigian goblin music and forgot that's two i's rather than one

Very possible. Plenty of login prompts are designed and abandoned every day.

More importantly constantly shifting passwords and usernames

That's feasible. It's not hard to hide the login under a different URL entirely, though I don't know how easy it would've been back then. Currently, with a Wordpress website, you have to go to wordpress.com/admin to log in by default. I wonder how many people it would drive insane to put a just script together that is nothing but a fake login/password screen that doesn't actually connect to anything at all lol

You mean just a homepage? Something designed to make people do exactly what we're all doing here - running in circles? I wouldn't dismiss that. I've seen stranger. Good point!

@@bmtphoenix Exactly! That's what I'm saying too. Something specifically made to make people run in circles. It wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened! It's amazing how much of a stir it's caused right here alone. How many others have already wasted countless hours on this? Definitely sounds feasible! Thanks, Man..

*that gives me an idea*

@@yuricock wtf what’s the idea?????

@Mathspiracy Admittedly not a very good one; but I'm pretty sure that was a joke

39 gigabytes? I think not

@Mathspiracy They could just put a login form that always fails

I was thinking the same thing. I remember mp3s sometimes taking hours to download a single song on a 56k modem. On my 120mb hard drive.

Broadband in the US was first available [not in all areas] by 1996. It was expensive; and only schools and big businesses could afford it. In 1997 you had somewhere between a 20k-to-30k internet connection. A 56k modem was invented at this time (which means 40k-to-50k actual speed) but wasn't widespread until at least 2000 then went dead on arrival as broadband took off. I'm more curious about the data center this guy had. Large hard drives weren't cheap I had an 800 mb harddrive. A 20 GB harddrive in 1997 probably would have set you back $500 and those were more than likely enterprise drives so it may have cost more than that. Whatever this guy had going on he had a lot of cash on hand to afford the disk storage space and broadband connection.