Most Exhausting Player vs USTA 4.5 NYC (Atlanta)

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USTA 4.5: Tennis player in red shirt (Most Exhausting Player) is 7-4 in singles competition in the USTA 4.5 / NTRP 4.5 league for 2019 and 3-0 in Summer of 2020 in Atlanta. He played USTA 4.5 league in both Atlanta and Virginia. He also reached the final of a 300 points NTRP 4.5 Championship tournament in Virginia by defeating the #1 and #3 seeds in the second and third rounds. Green shirt played in the 3.5 league in 2012, 4.0 in 2014, and 4.5 since 2015. He started playing tennis at 32 years old.
Blue shirt plays USTA 4.5 in the New York City area. He has won one USTA 4.5 tournament, and reached the finals of another USTA 4.5 tournament. As a USTA 4.0 player in 2013, blue shirt won back-to-back USTA 4.0 tournaments and was then bumped up to USTA 4.5. As a junior, he played #1 singles for his high school team. During his senior year in high school, he came in 3rd place in the county and 6th place in the sectionals. Blue shirt is an elementary school teacher and teaches tennis during the summer. He has watched every grand slam final from 1987 to 2020.
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@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

What did NYC do differently to defeat MEP? Is this a strategy Ian at Essential Tennis can consider as they are playing soon- see Essential Tennis’ video for details on upcoming match: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/asx2mJSG3d_Mo6s.html

@forgeratorkhan907 3 жыл бұрын

A few things I noticed. 1) NYC was super fit and did not mind chasing balls in long rallies. 2) NYC had much better anticipation compared to other MEP opponents and was in great position to dictate play. 3) Most important - NYC's overheads were far superior to the other MEP opponents e.g. college student. He was consistently able to put away overheads not giving MEP a chance to gain the upper hand in the rallies. Overall I think NYC was one of the few players who was able to modify and mould his style of play to match and defeat MEP. This also means his Tennis IQ is pretty good compared to MEP's other opponents.

@danield.7359 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's obvious why NYC won. He played slow, powerless balls while changing sides, rotation and length a lot. Even his serve was super soft most of the time not providing MEP under no circumstances the kinetic energy he needed for his game. MEP had to generate power himself, but he's lacking a classic Tennis education so he doesn't have the technique to generate the swing which would allow him to play powerful shots while still maintaining control and precision. Hence so many unforced errors by MEP. He's going to lose again and again against any solid, well educated (in terms of Tennis technique) opponent who's ready to grind against a player like MEP. MEP could improve his volley and smashing skills which would make it quite harder to defeat him. But as he doesn't have the right technique soon he'll run into a wall where his progress will become insignificant over time anyway. If MEP really wants to drastically improve his game, he'll have to re-learn Tennis the right way, as brutal as it sounds. But on the other hand, why should he do that? In his own right he's successful enough, defeating many players who play levels above him. And we enjoy watching these matches :-)

@CindyC71 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like with all the drop shots/chips/slices that MEP uses, he's able to exploit the fact that most 4.5s don't have a very well developed net game. NYC has good groundies, was quick, and most importantly was comfortable moving to the net. Plus he put away almost every overhead, a huge difference from the other video matches. He didn't beat himself either. I think that and the combination of MEP having an off day. Fun to watch! 😊

@markh2044 3 жыл бұрын

NYC was patient and anticipated the drop shots well. He also anticipated the lobs well, staying near the service line, and didn't over hit his overheads. A lot of the times he was rallying from no man's land which worked well to quickly retrieve all the MEP droppers. NYC also employed way more slice than anyone else we've seen against MEP. I thought it worked well. MEP is a classic pusher style who loves pace and doesn't mind lateral movement at all. NYC crafted his game plan beautifully. That first set was very very close and could've gone either way.

@markh2044 3 жыл бұрын

@jp koell just to clarify, are you saying Essential Tennis is a overrated coach, player, or perhaps both? I don't think you can say he's an overrated player. He's a computer rated 4.5 and he doesn't claim to be anything more. I think he was one time a 5.0 but not anymore since he mostly just teaches. He puts out a ton of great, helpful content so I'm curious why you would say he's not a good coach/teacher.

@javace79 3 жыл бұрын

I am glad I found this. When I have insomnia and can't sleep at night I can just watch this. Thank you for the cure.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

welcome

@dustyshackleford6772 3 жыл бұрын

It was very kind of the GOAT to let the little guy win. He made his dream come true. The make a wish foundation is doing some fantastic work.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Funny : ] NYC earned it. Well played by him.

@lateralbeats 3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂 It's like watching Napoleon dynamite play tennis 🤣🤣🤣

@MEPTennis 3 жыл бұрын

NYC 4.5 played a great match here. He was amped up coming in and throughout the match, but didn't let that affect his composure. He was also amazingly consistent with his overheads. Although this match was in the middle of Atlanta summer, the conditions that day were more like NYC. I'm looking forward to seeing the rematch we had!

@francoislepicard304 3 жыл бұрын

This was a great game. I believe in the early middle of the match you relied too much on lobs, and allowed him to get confidence as his early overheads were more tentative. The first time I see you make what I believe to be a tactical mistake. Good to see it happens to you too. Your change of tactics at the end was successful, but a bit late. Thanks for this, it teaches me a lot.

@sewonkim2290 3 жыл бұрын

Cheer up!! Mr. Ben.. You are our real hero of amateur tennis players..

@MAELOB 3 жыл бұрын

Good job bro- both were gladiators

@davelee6002 3 жыл бұрын

Ooh, a little foreshadowing to a more grueling hot weather match then!

@MEPTennis 3 жыл бұрын

@@francoislepicard304 I think you're right that I relied too much on lobs in this match. I disregarded what my experience has shown me- namely that lobbing tends to be less effective when the sun is not a factor (it was overcast and/or drizzling during the entire match)

@5ammy13 3 жыл бұрын

They are so slow that they are literally walking and playing...

@joemarshall4226 3 жыл бұрын

That's why you hit a lob once in a while....to catch your breath...

@anacap007 3 жыл бұрын

This match highlights the need for a solid and consistent overhead. NYC stayed patient and covered the court and used the high ball to reset the point just like MEP does. This match was more mental and tactical than trying to overpower with winners.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I agree - NYC played his style and it worked out for him. He played his own game in my opinion.

@leebr2010 3 жыл бұрын

This match has more drama and excitement than Wawrinka-Murray match at Roland Garros today lol. I'm exhausted for both of these players. NYC ran down every single drop shot and lob and slice. A+ for effort!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Agree - I thought this was exciting and a close match. In my opinion, only a few points separated the two players in this matchup.

@primerib 3 жыл бұрын

MEP got MEP'ed

@danielhkhk7283 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! 😅

@tommyspina6302 3 жыл бұрын

He basically just beat MEP at his own game. I'm speechless

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Some viewers have said similar. This was a loooong match.

@headunits 3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone that can hit overheads and put balls away at the net. I think this and his patience won NYC the match.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

NYC's patience was key in my opinion. I hit with all the players MEP has played so far including NYC. In my opinion, the difference is NYC has more patience in this match, and rather than going for a winner on the first overhead, he placed it well and waited for a second or even third overhead that he can then hit for winner. Most players try to crush the first overhead.

@HawkOfGP 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel Good point. He was also just very solid and made possibly even fewer unforced errors than MEP in this match. He was also able to occasionally dictate with the forehand with some pace while remaining reliable. These factors plus pretty strong net game seemed to make the difference on the day.

@avib4073 3 жыл бұрын

As a player who just picked up a racquet for the first time since I was 8 and basically started from scratch this summer, I have never been so encouraged that I can easily be a 4.5 player within a few months. I’m currently about a 3.5 and made huge strides this summer. Blue shirts game is so aesthetically unappealing and will motivate me to be a 4.5 and beyond. I can’t believe my eyes as I watch this battle of unlikely athletes. I have never been so inspired to get better. Watching these 2 has given me so much hope to get better at age 30

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck - hope you achieve your goals.

@johnyang1420 3 жыл бұрын

Dont assume these guys are easy to beat......they arent.

@samueldunham4970 3 жыл бұрын

this was tough to watch, nevertheless, good match gentleman.

@tennisparisbrothers8001 3 жыл бұрын

Loving the long rallies on this video!

@danielhkhk7283 3 жыл бұрын

I think, MEP didn't like the soft strokes from NYC Player.

@K4R3N 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe MEP got a taste of his own medicine finally

@Cesarini77 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, fast shots with no pace and low bounce, since MEP is a tall player.

@MAELOB 3 жыл бұрын

Somewhat Disagree, MEP does not mind soft balls, I think it had to do more with using angles, varying spins and off course taking over the net. Also dragging MEP to the net and passing him. I would have preferred for NYC to be more aggressive with the mid court forehand but overall he pulled off.

@lhslguevara 3 жыл бұрын

With all due respect, and thanks for the quality of this match, and TennisTroll’s accomplishments, MEP reminds me of Terry in Reno 911. And not only did I skip to the end, I always read the last page of a new book first.

@lololmao7 3 жыл бұрын

Just imagine him with the roller skates! He’d truly be an unstoppable force.

@lhslguevara 3 жыл бұрын

lololmao7 I think there’s a special USTA category, or should be, “4.5 with roller blades.”

@mattfoley4128 3 жыл бұрын

13:35..... I'm using that in my matches from now on😂😂😂😂😂

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

That's a good one : ]

@tenboard 3 жыл бұрын

Another great match. I really enjoy watching all these different players and their varied games. For this match, NYC did a nice job of being patient and waiting for opportunities to attack the net. He didn't get bothered with MEP's array of chips/slices/drop shots/loopy shots that have thrown other players off their game. NYC doesn't have a power game but does have solid consistent groundstrokes and a feel when to attack the net and pressure MEP to come up with a passing shot or lob. Which BTW is an excellent tactic against a player like MEP. He did look like he was getting a bit tired at the end, but thats a function of chasing down all of MEP's shots and executing his own game plan which he did well to win at the end.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I agree - NYC appeared to be less frustrated and more patient than the other opponents as you said. I think that's a significant difference between NYC and the other players. The other players have also played NYC and video is being edited. It'll be interesting to see how they fared against NYC also.

@AcingTennis 3 жыл бұрын

Patience is a virtue. And that virtue is bestowed upon NYC. Well done. I knew when it was a 33 minute video that it was going to be a battle of patience.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

good point with the 33 minute video...good thing it was only 2 sets...

@AcingTennis 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel HAHA! That's so true.

@sophocles8761 3 жыл бұрын

paused roland garros to see this through ... they are both MEP I never thought that patience could be so compelling

@sewonkim2290 3 жыл бұрын

Well said.. This match is more exciting than roland garros slam.😄

@chewey3rd 3 жыл бұрын

@@sewonkim2290 LoL

@markh2044 3 жыл бұрын

I forgot the French started today... Oops

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

French Open started? I didn't realize. Being serious. Thanks for the info.

@jeremi7214 3 жыл бұрын

These guys are both exhausting to watch! 😴

@sohoshirzadi5633 3 жыл бұрын

Fighting fire with fire. Great match!

@oswjim 3 жыл бұрын

NYC did great, all other matches I've watched MEP's opponents commit lots of UE, probably due to his style of play --- NYC played cool, didn't get desperate and went his own way, made only a few UE plus some nice winners, to me that was key to beat MEP -- well done and again thanks to @tennistroll for the content

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome. NYC played a great match. He was patient - maybe more so than the other opponents in general and it worked well for him.

@rawtennis5902 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel Patient, but also excellent overhead placement, nice volleying, and good at returninging the few lobs that went over his head. Anticipates the ball well and thus doesn't overexert unnecessarily. Plenty left in the tank. Well played!

@Ayanami0001 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one three shirts! You can tell he was just out there feeling good that day. MEP was just a hair off this time. Would have been a lot closer match if he was on his A game too.

@boarini2003 3 жыл бұрын

Love seeing the clash of styles. It's what makes for interesting tennis. I'd say, more interesting than most slam matches.

@francoislepicard304 3 жыл бұрын

Fully agree. And more beneficial for our own improvements.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I agree and thank you for letting us know. It helps with future videos.

@lythgoec 3 жыл бұрын

Very entertaining match thanks for sharing!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. Helps us with future content and matchups.

@MAELOB 3 жыл бұрын

Wow great play guys that was a battle royale grinding fest 👍🏼if MEP develops a better transition to the net and volleys he would be even more of a nightmare. Great effort. I think this shows the importance of having a decent overhead and not afraid to coming at the right time.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent suggestions and thank you for complimenting the players : ]

@benkofi8570 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just going to say this: they are both great players in their own respective right and it was a great match to watch but NYC guy won because he was able to expose MEP's glaring flaws/weaknesses while pulling off some unreal shots himself. NYC guy was happy to grind which is essential against MEP and for once we saw someone use an occasional S&V and attack the net well for the most part. Some people are saying MEP needs to completely rehash his technique. I firmly disagree. Imho he needs to learn just 3 things: how to hit big topspin groundstroke lobs to help get him out of trouble on both sides and big topspin shots on both groundstrokes to put opponents under pressure and give them some different looks at times, how to put away overheads as that cost him at times and how to attack the net behind a good topspin groundstroke off the backhand wing when he gets a short ball on that side as the drop shots got a bit predictable. But MEP/Ben, don't try and change your core style as it works well just add a few things to take you to the next level. From one leftie to another, respect and good luck against Ian

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

great points. I agree - I feel he needs to build on what he has. What he does is excellent. Add some drive and a bigger serve (he is lefty also which helps) where he can win one or two free points and I think he can go to 5.0. My opinion.

@boffymcwizzles6716 3 жыл бұрын

Was watching French Open highlights of Sinner vs Goffin but of course, like others, have paused that to watch this epic battle ... always enjoy an MEP exhaust-fest! I think NYC got the upper hand through a combo of (1) staying calm and playing his own game (2) great overheads (3) a very good net game.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

great points. I think the first point is most important.

@gnohn9366 3 жыл бұрын

MEP was off his game today. NYC played a good match and didn’t try to go for too much.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's the key. Many viewers think to beat a style like MEP, you have to be super aggressive. Maybe the opposite is true.

@NN-rn1oz 3 жыл бұрын

Added to favorite videos.

@stimsingh9361 3 жыл бұрын

Most Exhausting Player/Green Shirt/Ben, it went south when you put on the muscle shirt... nice match, both players patient and steady.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

It's the shirt! I knew it.

@DietersYT 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like MEP was having an off day. He usually doesn’t make so many unforced errors.

@perakojot6524 3 жыл бұрын

Totally false. The is the first match where tennis troll showed all the point. In previous MEP matches he was only showing highlights creating a distorted image of a player that never makes any mistakes.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't show all the points. I removed the double faults and a framed shot or two as I have with the previous 3 matches. The only match of MEP that is more of a highlight video is when he plays me (first video).

@wesmat 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely something off. New racquet or hype making him tentative on lobs. Love the MEP and his many mepons. The pancake squash shot is a favorite. He was anticipating his opponent to overplay and hit behind him. That didn’t work today. I think it was the second to last game NYC broke out a mepon too with an overhead squash. MEP keep bringing it and good game NYC.

@nueznonuez329 3 жыл бұрын

couldn't handle the fame

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

@@nueznonuez329 Don't tell Federer this when he loses one match.

@keithsoifer3079 3 жыл бұрын

I've spent Saturday afternoons in the HD paint department that were more exciting.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

That must be an awesome paint department. I need to check it out cause I thought MEP and NYC was thrilling.

@avib4073 3 жыл бұрын

Thrilling? You should try going on a roller coaster one day

@rich.e 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel Thrilling? this is the dullest match on your channel... yet oddly compelling for those of us who've been watching MEP.

@Phoniq 3 жыл бұрын

I just scrolled to the end to see the result. Well done NYC

@UchihABitachi 3 жыл бұрын

I feel exhausted just by watching this. NYC player placed his shots well and moved MEP around more than MEP moved him. In the end that’s what won him the game. Both players used the court very well and were able to sustain long high percentage plays. I play well against people who use pace, but to play these guys, it will be a real challenge. Good work to all involved!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

UchihABitachi good points. Both played high percentage tennis. In the match, I did not really see any bad shot selections. There were points where the execution may have failed and that’s expected- we all make errors. The choices though were good by both players in my opinion. Good observation.

@surfjabroni 3 жыл бұрын

This was a very interesting one for me because I played someone similar style to Mr MEP today and what I lacked was execution on volleys and overheads and lack of endurance. Suffice to say I lost badly.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

the last one - endurance - is a must against players with similar styles. I think there are many other ways to win, but gotta have endurance.

@SClark-ww3vi 3 жыл бұрын

Loved seeing a ball go flying over the fence, made it very relatable...

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Check out 6:03 here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fM-GmtFer82yoKM.html

@Brandon-jw5cv 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed with some of the others, that was really really, *really* hard to watch, but well done nonetheless.

@dabassboss4734 3 жыл бұрын

U know the most exhausting player is playing when the highlights are 33 minutes long XD

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

So true.

@francislirios9730 3 жыл бұрын

So you’re saying even the highlights are exhausting? LOL

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Francis Lirios this is the full match minus 5 points or so.

@repoman7804 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this. Super interesting to see someone solve the MEP puzzle without having overwhelming offense to hit him off the court. IMHO, MEP's main weapons are: 1) super consistent; 2) drop shot passing shot combo; 3) drop shot lob combo. As others have pointed out, NYC's above-average overhead took away #3. One comment I haven't seen is that NYC pretty consistently made deep approach shots on the drop shots, and that mostly neutralized #2. Many comments about patience being the neutralizer for #1, thereby eliminating the unforced errors seen with other opponents. But I think equally important is that NYC's patience conserved his energy -- pounding winner attempts at MEP that keep coming back is both physically tiring, and mentally disheartening. Since NYC didn't burn a ton of calories on his offense, he had a lot in the tank to keep running down all those drop shots. I'd really love to see a rematch to see what MEP would change now that he knows what NYC will try to do. Kudos to both players for a very interesting match.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Good observations. MEP and NYC did have a rematch and we recorded it. We'll show soon.

@MEPTennis 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel Hurry, the suspense is killing me!

@jimj7333 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly about better approach shots. I just don’t hear many comments about approach shots against MEP. Short, or slow or middle of the court approach shots (basically weak ones) and you will lose every time. His accuracy and the ability to whatever he wants to a weak approach shot will kill you. NYC had strong, angled, deep and sometimes good paced approaches and MEP’s effectiveness and percentages of winners went way down. I’ve watched a lot of these matches and you don’t see very many short lobs from MEP. They’re usually wayyyy back making overheads hard or impossible. Ben couldn’t make thos lobs or passing shots nearly as often. Also, NYC kept his groundstrokes so much deeper than a lot of other players making it harder to put those drop shots in. He missed more than usual. Love Ben as he’s a fine player and great guy but I REALLY REALLY loved seeing him being the one running back and forth and being pushed around as he does to so many others. A little taste of his own medicine that he’s given to so many others.

@samuelfishman7418 3 жыл бұрын

Blue was helped by slicing the backhand more often than some of the other MEP opponents. MEP made a lot of errors when returning inside out slices to his own backhand.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

MEP did make a few more mistakes than usual. However, the player who tends to lose usually does make most errors.

@mkong88 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man MEP going sleeveless? NYC lucky he lives to tell the tale

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Funny : ]

@KrishnenduKes 3 жыл бұрын

MEP got exhausted in the 8th game of the 1st set!

@WaterfallWhispering 3 жыл бұрын

This was almost like watching pickle ball....so many slice shots...

@lordsneed9418 9 күн бұрын

wow mep actually did some topspin shots!

@Jimd317 3 жыл бұрын

He won by playing the net. He kept the ball deep, no pace so MEP could not feed off of it and he had great footwork to get all the drop shots. The real difference was playing the net and his ability to hit over heads.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

NYC appeared to miss fewer overheads in this match than the other opponents.

@junrylcambio908 3 жыл бұрын

I love the environment and beautiful places where the tennis court found

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you - Atlanta area has many awesome courts - most are free too.

@pylekate 3 жыл бұрын

They're both exhausting to watch! But, fun match!

@msolbakken 3 жыл бұрын

The shot at 26:01. Deep topspin to the backhand. Seems so simple yet rarely repeated in this match.

@ariurip3751 3 жыл бұрын

Well played

@carlspencerace 3 жыл бұрын

25:03 🤣🤣🤣 I totally felt that! Good game again, sometimes it's nice to take the pace off of a match and just enjoy it for what it is! Thinking they should change MEP to Most Peaceful Player!

@slimsim22 3 жыл бұрын

this is a really good perspective to take, I will have to try this the next time I play one of these slice pushers

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think that grunt was NYC. That was a person on another court being frustrated and yelling. It happened to occur at the same time NYC hit his shot - which is why he laughed.

@MarcoSolidx 3 жыл бұрын

What I see is that NYC was playing the similar style as MEP, but was patient to wait for good passing shots and volleys.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I think NYC is the most patient player to have played against MEP on our channel so far.

@oliverp8338 3 жыл бұрын

NYC Player is what most average players should aspire to be like. consistent ground strokes, good placement, not trying to do too much with any of his shots. bravo!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I agree - good comment.

@joshw7129 3 жыл бұрын

This is going to be an off shot but one thing I think blue shirt does really well here is how he times his footwork to the pace of play Other opponents MEP Has played including myself did not do a good job with their footwork. They got to lax with it Blue shirt Just seems really steady with everything about his game. It’s very composed

@MultiPwncakes 3 жыл бұрын

MEP: I fear no man. But that thing... it scares me.

@sewonkim2290 3 жыл бұрын

Somewhat NYC has similar playing style compared to MEP. He is another new MEP..!!! In this match MEP did more unforced errors than I ever saw before.. That's too bad..ㅜㅜ ^♡^

@MAELOB 3 жыл бұрын

The difference is that NYC is not afraid to volley and hit overheads that was the difference

@perakojot6524 3 жыл бұрын

I bet MEP is making exactly the same amount of errors as before, but TennisTroll with showing only highlights created totally distorted image of him.

@MEPTennis 3 жыл бұрын

@@perakojot6524 we may not have seen all the points from the other matches, but we've seen the final scores. What exactly is it you think we aren't being shown?

@perakojot6524 3 жыл бұрын

@@MEPTennis Are you really dumb or just playing dumb? We haven't seen that MEP makes maybe 30% of passing shots, and the rest are either out or played directly into the player on the net where a player that has some clue about net play (which tennis troll clearly doesn't) makes an easy volley winner. Instead ppl started thinking that MEP makes 90% of points with his "superb" passing shots whenever his opponent goes to the net. We also haven't seen that 80% of his lobs are just bad, and easy to smash if other player actually has some clue about smashes.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

yawn...as I've said to your other 3 or 4 comments...the last 3 matches MEP has played has shown every points except double faults and an occasional bad point such as a frame. The only match that didn't show every point (still over 10 minutes long for 1 set plus a half set) was the first match where he played me.

@joegojunkie5710 3 жыл бұрын

It’s really fun to see NYC beat MEP, MPP most passive player. NYC pinned MPP on backhand, and finished forehand, and serve volley too, good strategy.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

It's fun to watch MEP whether he wins or loses in my opinion : ]

@joegojunkie5710 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a fact most people don’t like playing a pusher.

@jasonsullivan4592 3 жыл бұрын

@@joegojunkie5710 It's more a fact that those guys are playing "smarter" tennis, and don't care what someone on the internet thinks. By the way, I'm quite sure that "pusher" could beat you (and me).

@joegojunkie5710 3 жыл бұрын

Believe or not, I just happened to beat one in similar fashion

@udaysamavenkata3092 3 жыл бұрын

What do you use to record these videos? I really like the quality and would like to use it to analyze my own tennis

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

and old iphone.

@kuruptgt 3 жыл бұрын

Question -> Do you use a GoPro to record? If so, which FOV mode do you use? Linear, Medium, Wide?

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I don't use go pro.

@GaneshVIyer 3 жыл бұрын

And then.. MEP met his right-handed clone.. Well done guys, even as this proves that nothing lasts forever, it Really tested our viewing stamina as well!!

@chinw4406 3 жыл бұрын

NYC did a great job with the short ball by returning it deep and following the next shot with a smart overheads. The overheads were not kill shots but effective enough. So even if MEP gets it back, NYC finishes it off with the second overhead. This pattern was the difference in the match IMO.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I see your point. Maybe the key is to have a consistent overhead - not necessary an overpowering overhead that is always a winner.

@chinw4406 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel I believe so. It's a two part.... first is the get the short ball deep and put MEP is a position to hit great lobs or great passing shot which he could not consistently do. Then to follow it up with the overhead. Thanks for all the tennis content.

@simulationman1 3 жыл бұрын

@@chinw4406 I agree with the point on the short ball. NYC had a good deep slice he used frequently. You either need to do that or have a really good counter-drop shot. If you hit the ball back without depth or a really good dropper, MEP will be able to hit the passing shot or lob.

@gb44509 3 жыл бұрын

Booo, NYC didn't read the script properly. The first rule of MEP club is....don't beat MEP. The second rule of MEP club is...DON'T BEAT MEP! :-) Good game though NYC, smart play. Great channel this, watched loads all the way through. Thanks TT.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Funny : ]

@chewey3rd 3 жыл бұрын

MEP didn't have the touch on the droppers in this match. They sat up way too high and Blue shirt was able to capitalize on the short ball with some nice volleys and overheads. Blue Shirt also controlled the tempo of the match. I think MEP would run into a lot of trouble against the higher ranked 4.5 players in most regions, especially Southern California but I still love his game nonetheless. Once again, thanks for sharing, it was a very fun match to watch @Tennis Troll.

@Einar2008 3 жыл бұрын

Which regions do you think are drastically better than Atlanta, where he IS one of the top 4.5 players?

@chewey3rd 3 жыл бұрын

@@Einar2008 California both Norcal and Socal, Austin, Texas and NYC. I played tournaments in all of those regions and the top 10-20 4.5 players are legit. I am NOT criticizing MEP's game. I am just speaking from personal experience. I played plenty of pushers and grinders at the 4.5, 5.0 level and in my college days and I consider myself a pusher most of the time. Blue shirt has only won one USTA 4.5 tournament and he totally controlled the match with MEP. I think MEP struggled mostly because he played someone who didn't hit the ball with a lot of pace and had patience to play against his limited style of game.

@Einar2008 3 жыл бұрын

@@chewey3rd Mid-Atlantic men won the 4.5 team championship. Atlanta is regularly ranked as one of the two or three top regions in America. Blue shirt "only" won one 4.5 tournament after being bumped to 4.5 for winning back to back 4.0 tournaments. All of that is besides the point. MEP is a strong 4.5 who would consistently win at 4.5 anywhere in the country, and we know that because he consistently wins in Atlanta. Your and my history at 4.5 & 5.0 don't come into it, so I'm not sure why you brought it up. If you want to provide your USTA # so we can look at your results, then it might matter.

@chewey3rd 3 жыл бұрын

@@Einar2008 It's only my opinion bro, chill out. I don't play USTA tournaments anymore. I live overseas now. I played 200+ USTA matches at the 4.5 rating and made it to a few finals and won some titles in singles. I was ranked in the top 20-30 in SoCal around 2008-2013. I only bring up my history because I played many pushers and it's only my OPINION (not a fact) that they were stronger than MEP. I think he is a solid player so don't construe my comments to benefit your argument. Are you one of the top players in the Atlanta region? I'm not here to argue with people so have a great day.

@Raidersscm 3 жыл бұрын

@@Einar2008 Atlanta is not one of the 2 or 3 top regions in America. MEP would not do anything in So Cal, Nor Cal, NYC, Florida. I once played in a 5.0 tournament in Nor Cal and played a guy who had moved from Maryland where he was no 8 in the opens there. I won the first set off him but he beat me in 3 sets. When you play a lot of tournaments you get experience playing guys like MEP at all levels. In Nor cal there are guys like MEP at every level from 3.0 to open. I did not play like MEP but if my opponent was like a lot of guys on here calling him a pusher then I would play like MEP. I also think a lot of people calling him a pusher are just giving themselves a excuse why they would lose to him.

@KrayzListerine 3 жыл бұрын

This was an extremely difficult game to watch. Anti-tennis at its finest. Feel like both players massively played into eachother's hands. It seems the way to beat MEP is make him move a lot, draw him in to the net and then play a passing shot.

@Jamsome59 3 жыл бұрын

Your right tennis is only meant to be played one way. Because everyone who plays is going for high light worthy shots. Most points end in unforced errors, so of course it makes no sense for a defensive style to be developed into a term coined as “pusher”. Especially when competitive tennis players who only play to win are in the minority. Not to mention setting aside most peoples opinions to focus on doing the one thing you get a point for in tennis. Clearly that is not how you should play tennis 🙄

@1RA787 3 жыл бұрын

Good match. The only way to beat MEP is to stay out there as long as you can and play the same game (bring a lot of shirts). Very difficult because you have to produce your own power which tends to make one over hit their shot. Again, good match. I almost was about to order a green shirt😂

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Being in excellent shape is a requirement to defeat MEP in my opinion.

@jacambrianmadlock2078 3 жыл бұрын

I’m still trying to figure out who’s the 4.5 and how. They both look like 3.5

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Ayee I guess everyone on the eastern side of the United States is a 3.5

@AtobeTanhausser01 3 жыл бұрын

Unless Ian gets his fitness back, this is definitely NOT the strategy for him. NYC played a great, patient game and actually ended up MEP'ing MEP. On serve, he hit over his backhand more, but when returning he adopted a waiting game strategy with more slices and opted to rally and grind his points. His willingness to also force MEP into giving him easier overheads with deep volleys was another factor. People have been afraid to approach the net against him, but there are many openings he does give to safely approach. NYC recognized that, and wasn't discouraged after being burned a few times. He also was willing to commit to the net when drawn in by MEP and play a good directional shot and/or not being afraid to hit some topspin as opposed to just chipping it. If MEP had committed the net more and also got a little better direction on some of the shots he did play at the net, I think it would've been closer. This was a fun one to watch.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. Excellent point - a strategy that works for one type of player may be not the best strategy for another person. I'm thinking Ian will have his own set strategy in place and we'll see what happens. I'm excited to find out.

@vitaliestirbu9607 3 жыл бұрын

Are you guys hitting aces , kickserves or winners at 4.5? We do that at 3.5 in Texas

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I thought Texas and SoCal did that at 3.0.

@HoverboardClub 3 жыл бұрын

Its not 4.5 level fot sure. Thay play like worming the body before game

@ProfessorBoooty 3 жыл бұрын

The secret to winning Ben is to change 3 shirts in 2 sets

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Good one. That did work.

@markh2044 3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@roccodemaro4305 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like this match was played at 50% speed lol Tip o' the cap to the competitors, as always. Good luck to MEP vs Ian!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to watch that match. It'll be exciting. Kind of wish it was in Atlanta - could have Ian play many players over the weekend. One day : ]

@roccodemaro4305 3 жыл бұрын

TennisTroll Channel After watching MEP closely today, I think he'll have a lot of trouble with Ian. MEP doesn’t move well, and isn’t really as dexterous as he'd need to be with that style vs. an in-shape Ian. Just my two cents! Expecting a 6-2, 6-2 kind of result. p.s. I thought your game looked as good as I’ve ever seen it in your most recent match. Really making good progress :) Keep playing better competition, and work on your fitness & explosive movements.

@davidfox9875 3 жыл бұрын

We need to get the West Coast involved

@ericshine1 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel I'm thinking having Ian come to Atlanta is a really good idea!!! I'd like to be a part of that!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Eric Shine I’ll pay for his trip if he can! However, he does have a lot going on with Essential Tennis so for him to come down for a weekend may be a challenge. I’m open to it. Can line him up with some excellent players on a stadium court.

@JohnnyChowder 3 жыл бұрын

MEP NOOOOOO :( Anti-MEP has a viscous overhead, it took away MEP's most vital weapon, the lob.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

NYC does have a solid overhead.

@Hunteratloppshop 3 жыл бұрын

Did NOT expect MEP to come out sleeveless. 🤣🤣

@NN-rn1oz 3 жыл бұрын

OutMEPed 3:02 3:27 13:28 18:27 19:01 27:53

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

New google word? OutMEPed

@narutolee5037 3 жыл бұрын

This guys play the same way I punch in my sleep lol

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

hopefully no one is next to you if you tend to punch in your sleep.

@goplaydrums1582 3 жыл бұрын

Serve and drop shot volley seems like a good tactic. Also drop shots in general and use of angles seems like the best way to get MEP uncomfortable.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the suggestions. It's a good strategy for MEP and other opponents - moving opponents from baseline to net is just as important as moving opponents side to side. Sometimes we focus on running opponents side to side and forget to use the rest of the court.

@Missinabella 3 жыл бұрын

Always play at their level. The tendency if you're a much more technical player is that first you'll get frustrated then end up over hitting then it's just downhill from there. Level up or Level down and have fun.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

This is good advice - with the most important part - have fun. Think some people including me forget the reason we play tennis. It's fun.

@brendonwynford2703 3 жыл бұрын

A great match to watch.NYC with better technique than MEP knew he could outlast MEP.He also knew that due to poor and limited technique MEP if given no pace could not hurt him at the back court and due to poor technique has no net game.Since NYC has no major baseline power he knew he had to come to the net to finish points of and patiently waited for his opportunities.These 2 players have higher tennis IQ than most players out there.They fully understand what tennis is about and play to win , within their limitations but will happily sit back and let opponents destroy themselves.There are many players out there who can hit better than these two but will lose in shock against them as they have not learnt how to play against counter punchers who provide no pace on the ball.People who say this is anti tennis need to go and learn the rules of the game and be humble and respectful of the players on show. Again a great tactical battle.

@joemarshall4226 2 жыл бұрын

MEP has marvelous technique.

@rattata30 3 жыл бұрын

MEP needs a vintage racket to complete the look he is going for

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting : ]

@jeff3257 3 жыл бұрын

I think I have PTSD from watching that match. I can so relate. Been there many times just to beat myself. Takes patience to play against a pusher.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine playing him : ] Every shot is coming back. Don't how many times I said to myself...is it going out, is it going out....crap.

@kenharris7194 3 жыл бұрын

NYC player showed alot of poise and patience. He was able to adapt well to the pushing style and is the better player. NYC must be completely exhausted and will be really sore the next day!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

NYC was poised and patient - he may have been the most patient of all the players that have played MEP on our channel so far.

@danield.7359 3 жыл бұрын

I thought blonde hair (green shirt at the beginning) is the MEP. Anyway NYC outsmarted MEP by playing soft baloony balls, changing length, sides and rotation, forcing MEP to run a lot and into actually generating power himself - at the cost of control and precision. While NYC remained patient and held on to his strategy, MEP at some point realized he's going to lose if he doesn't change something. In his despair, MEP decided to go to the net more often where he actually doesn't feel comfortable at all. This is a great lesson how to defeat an autodidact who compensates the lack of Tennis education with his strong will to never give up a single ball and to run as if there's no tomorrow just to hit that darn bowl back somehow. This was a highly interesting match to watch and kudos to both players.

@msolbakken 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, tough to generate pace when use to working off opponents pace.

@davced1 3 жыл бұрын

End of 2nd set was probably the best I have seen so far from MEP and he still lost, says something about the level of his opponent.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

NYC is a good player. NYC and I had a good match as well. Makes very few errors.

@DanTuber 3 жыл бұрын

like watching tennis in slow motion

@ripleypipe 3 жыл бұрын

NYC managed to close MEP down a lot of the time and had endless patience to carry out a convincing win. Although MET was not at his best in this encounter, NYC had the right tactics to get the job done. Interestingly when NYC hit a full blooded backhand winner, his roar was one of relief at being able to hit a proper stroke successfully, in match that dripped with chess based interplay.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Agree. However, the roar was actually not his. It was from someone else showing frustration on another court. Well time roar though - I think that's why NYC laughed : ]

@alwaysprepared 3 жыл бұрын

I think MEP pretty much played his normal game. Perhaps a smidge off his best form, though, probably due to NYC playing a consistency game, also. I think the key to the match, to me, was that NYC had no mental issues playing the consistency game with MEP so he didn't get frustrated. That combined with being opportunistic with his offensive shots, moving MEP around and putting Overheads away when given the chance made a big difference in this match. NYC seemed to have a good game plan to beat MEP and stuck with it. NYC also changed things up from time to time with serve and volley, particularly in the second set and also had enough stamina to not get too tired. Once NYC got that first set, he loosened up a bit and was more aggressive overall and was successful with that style, as well. Honestly, initially I thought NYC would be in trouble because he didn't have any overpowering shots, but he proved to me that was not an issue if you could play the consistency game well enough.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I agree - it appears NYC was not as surprised/shock by MEP's game. Maybe he has a practice partner that plays similarly? Or maybe he knows he needs to be patient and consistent. Good points you make.

@Tennisbull-match-statistics 3 жыл бұрын

I liked NYC’s serve and volley, could have used more. He could have come to the net more often on some of those weak floaters. Plus a chip&charge off the weak serves? Good match, looking forward to Ian playing him

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

NYC played well. His strategy worked in this match. On camera, the serves from MEP appear weak, but in reality, they are well placed serves that are difficult to attack. They bounce low and always on the backhand side. Not easy to a low, backhand return for a winner/attacking shot. MEP has played 4 players on video and I don't think any of them were able to attack his serve consistently.

@nightowldickson 3 жыл бұрын

This match was a test of everyones' patience - for MEP, NYC and the viewers

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Funny : ]

@cldavis33 3 жыл бұрын

After the first game - yes the 1st game I was like....."and two years later...." That's some slow tennis.

@thestuff8023 3 жыл бұрын

Is it me that Blue shirrt toned down his first serve? Great game, MEP did struggle in this match.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure - he did play me prior to this match. I'm curious - may compare and see.

@johnsuttoniiijs 3 жыл бұрын

I do a drill like this match. 2nd serves only and cannot use topspin as the receiver for 10 strokes then when you cross the 10 stroke barrier then you may hit topspin and go for the winner. It's to help w defense and transition from defense to offense. These guys could benefit from the last piece of the drill. Troll this was again painful to watch at the 4.5 level. Hard fought match for sure and NYC guy proved the point that MEP is only MEP to those who shouldn't be at the 4.5 level in the first place. Nice hard fought match guys.

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I remember doing a drill you is referring to. Something similar and had to keep it cross court.

@Jygzaw 3 жыл бұрын

bruh what camera are u using to record? is it expensive?

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

iphone 7 with a broken screen

@Jygzaw 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel thanks! i tried using my iphone too. its not bad. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n6mZgqqAkq66o6c.html

@robertjonathanrobins3957 3 жыл бұрын

How old is MEP? Moves like he i fifty but could be younger. Great patience by bearded MEP 👍

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

I think he anticipates very well...therefore he doesn't have to sprint/run. He appears to have a good idea of where the ball will go before the opponent hits it.

@dennishergenreter9021 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how the green shirt strategy, strokes and shot selection would translate to doubles.

@williambeeker5501 3 жыл бұрын

This is the spider man pointing meme, but tennis

@pakchu2 3 жыл бұрын

was it raining the whole time?

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

On and off in the beginning of first set. Had to stop once.

@spider1019 3 жыл бұрын

Was hoping Essential Tennis would be the first on KZfaq to take down MEP

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

If he takes him down : ]

@spider1019 3 жыл бұрын

@@TennisTrollChannel I have my money on Ian for following reasons: 1. Ian's main strength is his volleys / overheads. I believe he was playing doubles when he got bumped up to 5.0 many years back. 2. Ian's life is tennis. He doesn't have a 'regular job' holding him back from being on the court. His full time job is essentially training to be better at tennis and then monetizing it on youtube (in addition to his academy work and of course all video editing work). He has more available hours to keep his skills sharp, which should result in less variance for best performance / worst performance days. 3. Similar to point 2, Ian has been training not just with the college coach, but also has been dedicating specific time to overall conditioning. He's already athletic, inarguably very lengthy, and mentioned he has been running to improve endurance.

@kikenjien 3 жыл бұрын

NYC literally looked exhausted against most exhausting player but well done! He could hold his pace untill match point meanwhile MEP was straggling to keep up control and pace. I wanna see MEP vs TT(tennis troll) again!

@TennisTrollChannel 3 жыл бұрын

We have been practicing. Haven't recorded. In my opinion, I think viewers want to see MEP play other opponents. Maybe in the future we can.