Microsoft edge hates minecraft mods

@@thecommentato4 lmao

@@thecommentato4 i mean jar files are really sus. Even chrome hates them

This.

@@marranin007 edge is based on chromium. Firefox is bette

The ratio seems alright

I'm sorry, but the number you have dialed is out of service.

Lol I had 400 open just a month or two ago. I've whittled it down to just over 100 now though. I only have 32gb of ram and only at most used up slightly more than half of it with 400 tabs open.

Most tabs get set to inactive when too much are open. Linus Tech Tips made a video about it.

@@anotherone3284 ^ This I also use a tab suspender kind of thing when a tab is inactive for more than like 10 minutes or something so I don't eat up all my resources as I regularly have a crap load of tabs open 😂.

Or "sub %eax,%eax", which is the same length and very similar in its bit pattern. Anyways, testing independent browsers like Brave and Palemoon is important for any comparison to be fair.

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certainly one wouldnt want to just use this method to test whether a browser is secure or not but as a proof of concept python script i think its ONE way to test your browsers security features which can spoke interest, discussion or inspiration like with what you mention, and that's the real value of this video, in my opinion.

I would go even further and say that the test itself is pretty pointless: It's not testing how secure the browser is, but how good the blacklists are. Scanning for malicious files or sites is merely a bonus to assist the low brow users from _downloading_ malware from suspicious sites. Doesn't help if the browser is susceptible to HTML-based or Javascript attacks (i.e. malformed images or javascript exploits causing buffer overflows etc), and you can't test these with some file downloads, even if you try it with a million files.

I think it's the point of the test. Between the browsers, to see which one keeps up with these the best.

the most used browser will be targeted the most, so maybe we can expect firefox and edge to do best ?

@@artbell259 That... doesn't make sense. "The most used browser will be targeted the most, therefore the second-most used browser will be the best, i.e. not targeted at all". Following your logic, it should be a completely unknown browser. As for whether completely unknown browsers actually are safe, not really? Unless you have already patched every single bug in that browser, which is practically impossible to do, all you are relying on is security through obscurity, and if there's a cross-browser exploit, who will care to patch the unknown browser?

Firefox lacks a robust smart screen. But using norton safeweb addon for firefox has changed changed the game literally. It even filters out most phishing links, which is impressive.

@@himankan firefox doesn’t lack a proper smartscreen, it has one built in, and norton sucks.

@@doge7831 I've been using firefox for more than a decade and have recently tested it against a good number of malicious links. Then I went testing almost all security addons, including BD Traffic light, mwb, wot, safeweb, avast/avg, emsisoft, avira etc. Safeweb was the only one that performed on par with edge. The other addons failed miserably, even with ublock origin and https mode enabled.

And dont forget the vertical tabs. I cant use any other browser now.

Firefox has vertical tabs extensions, I've installed and I'm using it since I learned that from using Edge at work.

@@eeka_droid firefox uses more resources in video decoding. About twice as much on my laptop. Which decreases my laptop's battery life a lot. That was my main reason for leaving firefox.

Try CCleaner Browser and Adguard security extension (with security filters enabled). After using them together, you won't go back to Chrome, Edge or Firefox.

My beef with edge is how strongly Microsoft tries to force it on you. Even just "updating" settings to trick you back to edge. I used edge for a while on a windows s machine and it works but I don't think it's better or worse than chrome. (Other than Microsofts attempts making me hate it)

I know where your coming from, I've been using Firefox with a lot of addons for years, I wish I could find them all for Edge!

I used to use Firefox then i moved to Edge, I couldn't stay long as it didn't even hava a good enough proxy extension so moved back to Firefox.

@@neunzehnvierundachtzig Yeah, Firefox must have the most extensions out of all the browsers, thanks for reminding me, I thought there might be a DuckDuckGo browser for Windows but nope, I would be installing it right now since I just I searched for it... =8^/

There are rumors that Google will stop funding Mozilla in 2023, so I'm curious if Firefox can survive with a $450 million hole in its financial budget.

@@DevishMend It would've after the manifest v2 thing by Google but they delayed it and so yea monopoly brrrr

@@DevishMend me waiting for the lawsuits for Google being monopolistic, anticonsumer and having to break up 👴

Mozilla is a WEF partner so I’m sure they’ll be fine

@@avpr1c Uh-huh... Because saying things you were told by unreliable people who have hugely antisemitic tendencies, is such a needed thing, I guess🙄

Norton safe web addon for firefox performs way better than browser guard and almost all browser security addons I've tested so far.

@@himankan Please stop trying to shove your norton addon down people's throats. You spammed every comment with your addon. We get it, you either work at Norton or you know someone who does. But that does not mean you can harass for your own personal gain. Malwarebytes is all we need, thanks.

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior I, or anyone I know have no remote relation with that company. Secondly now you're promoting another av addon. The reason why I'm saying what I've been saying is because people hate norton and rightly so. I have hated them for their recent practices too. But the performance of that addon surprised me when tested against real world malicious links. Now when I say this, it's not to promote but hopefully somebody will give it a thought to test it for themselves.

I agree it would be interesting, but it wouldn't be representative of anything that is useful to derive information from for standard users. Standard users are only in the past several years even deciding to download different browsers aside from the default, much less changing DNS. And most users familiar with such things aren't particularly in danger of these malicious links in the first place.

Double it and give it to the next person

edge is actually really good now you should try it

I love firefox

@@ad1340yt Not OP but but thanks. It’s based on Blink and I don’t want Blink and WebKit to be the only rendering engines in town. The dominance of Blink is bad enough as it is. I’ll use Firefox and support them as much as I can because I don’t want one company to completely dominate the Internet as Microsoft did with IE. Companies have a terrible history of abusing that level of power.

@@RU-qv3jl no blink should take over the world

@@RU-qv3jl agree with you 👌

I'm pretty similar to you, but with regular Firefox and Edge without ever installing Chrome on anything, lol.

Yes, I have tried it, but it would just be too slow for the purposes of making a video as the multitude of links would be stuck waiting in the queue rather than downloading parallelly.

Now imagine how long it would take. You can blast your browser with 300 pages in less than 5 seconds, or wait for page to load which also can take up to 10 seconds. Even if it takes 1 second to fully load the page, it is 300 seconds = 7-8 minutes. But most sites take at least 3 seconds to load, so its literally half an hour to check 300 sites compared to 5 seconds.

@@pcsecuritychannel maybe make like 50 threads such that 50 links are open at the same time?

Vivaldi always considers every exe to be "possibly dangerous" and asks if we want to discard or keep it.

Don't know how he would do tor browser. I think the urls are just a lot of random characters like letters and numbers, and I don't know if there is a repository of tor browser malware installation links. Plus I don't think there are any safety measures to prevent malware on tor.

Vivaldi in an Opera?

​@@glowgold868 Tor is also widely used for "normal sites" and is also the browser with the most safety measures against malware and hardening out of ALL common browsers, because that is the point of using it in the first place.

@@zun1uwu I see. But I think the results of testing the tor browser would be a waste of time if you could estimate the results. If its hardening of all common browsers, I think it would miss at max 10.

@@glowgold868 yup

Chromium plays no part in the security right here. Edge has its own protection against malware.

@@xE92vD I think what he means is that Brave might have extra protection like Edge

Thanks Asux - I get that. Brave focuses mainly on privacy and blocks cross-site trackers, third-party cookies, fingerprinting, bounce tracking, and malware/phishing attempts, but I don't know about download security. It's not that easy to test this yourself, so I think it would be an interesting topic.

@@yna50bc THX - That's exactly what I've meant 😅

@@simimik. What about brave adblock 🤨

This. False positives matter, because if they're too common, it will only teach the user to ignore the warnings.

​@@enemixius exactly

@@enemixius i use edge and download many programs and never had a false positive

Same. I don't think it's "false positives", I think there's some quirk about how this is being measured where it measures edge as having a 100% detection rate when it actually doesn't, and I think if we used legitimate addresses it would "protect" against all those too (even though in reality it's not protecting against nearly as much).

@@Person01234 its the hash that is important if it detects one or not

Exactly. Whenever I get this warning I just copy the download link and paste in online virus scan to check manually. My ratio for these files is 50-50. 50% of the time it does help me avoid downloading something I don't trust already.

ba dum tss! 😀

My pc got hacked years ago when i was using comodo... Hope they've improved lol

Heck no. Never use AVG stuff, comodo is not that great as well.

Those aren't exactly obscure, but yes more browsers would be good Also Safari if they can somehow get a Mac VM

Brave is pro-NFT, constantly gives crypto related popups, and steals profit from sites by redirecting URLs to ones they profit from. Just another phony privacy browser. I'll stick with Firefox and Tor.

That sounds like a really good tool if you have older people or children using the browser

@@HanabiiiUwU It’s better to have something like that in the browser than nothing

it don't block verified files tho.

No

@@wooshbait36 thanks for you detailed contribution

I'm also interested in a DNS test.

Add pihole to the mix

@@guiorgy no

DEFINETLY not Yandex, Opera and Edge for example are very different even in terms of using RAM

Firefox was the drawback here. The other browsers could do 500+ no problem.

@@pcsecuritychannel I'm not too surprised lol. I mean I don't think it's servers were made for that kind of number. It's enough of a test for other browsers that have more market share and money. Also maybe it's just my computer but Chrome on mine would probably tank at like 100 and Firefox would tank at maybe 70. Idk how you got hundreds on any of those

It's worth noting that there's a difference between secure, private, and anonymous

Yeah you can't have it all in the internet world and it's all only so private. But it's sure nice to reduce the amount of metadata you hand over to the tech overlords. If we don't post it they don't need to know about it. That's my philosophy anyhow.

@@hotrodjones74 Same goes for me.

Edge is getting better by the day imo. i initially liked it because i was living in china and it was easy to work with it, unlike any google software that was blocked, and also i could work with the windows/android/edge/cloud microsoft provides for free. so i kinda get an all in one 2FA/password manager + cloud on all my devices, that alone eliminated so much hassle when it came to security management. now i see this, edge better at blocking malwares, and the recent news about chatGPT being included in the next Edge builds. i feel like not using Edge would be a mistake, it seems to be a superior browser in so many ways. If you use windows, login to your microsoft account on a reinstall of windows, your edge browser on first start is already configured with your settings, and even your extensions you had installed. so you have almost nothing to manage or reinstall everytime. such a time saver.

@@jobslolo7387 Edge is defo getting better each day, the other day they announced a whole new ui update. Same with bing, bing chat and image AI is incredible

TOR is Firefox.

@@TheStevenWhiting It is a modified version of Firefox which is why I am curious if there is any differences.

@@TheStevenWhiting Yes, but it's significantly modified particularly for security purposes, it's likely that certain changes such as javascript being blocked by default would increase the success ratio for blocking

@@fotnite_ True

If privacy is your concern then you have to use Edge because malware is a much bigger threat to your privacy than any browser, so you need to be sure you're blocking every threat.

@@macsuibhne02 if privacy is a concern, use your brain and don't download random BS...

@@macsuibhne02 Cookies and ads do worse privacy wise in everyday life. Yes malware is bad, but it's also on the user to be smart and use critical thinking when looking at links and files. Of course protection is good and Firefox has a substantial amount. The rest is on the user. Personally I'll take 7% less detection for the ability to also keep my general everyday privacy too. Malware doesn't happen to the user everyday. Cookies and ads can if you don't have sufficient adblockers which is why I'll take Firefox over Chrome and Edge.

@@zrainyday5266 Cookie and ad blockers can be installed on any browser. If taking steps to protect your privacy is your solution, there are things you can do to protect yourself on any browser equally. If you think that you privacy is protected on Firefox, which is 90% funded by Google and has ads built in by default, you're a fool. You really think advertisers would be happy to hear their ads aren't targeted? Where do you think the ads are served from. Also, if you're so worried about your daily browsing privacy, why are you logged into a Google account right now? Bet you have a Facebook account too. If you think your daily browsing is secure, you're a fool.

@@macsuibhne02 Idk if it's really worth replying considering how needlessly aggressive you're being lol. But I'm going to anyway. And no, no Facebook. Too many pedophiles and such a disgusting app in general. "Cookie and adblockers can be installed on any browser equally." Not in January. V3, remember? Only non-Chromium browsers and/or browsers with fundamentally built in blockers will retain this. So that, in my personal opinion puts Firefox above Chrome in terms of privacy. You can now but what about in just a measly few months? Without web request adblockers won't work properly. And V3 is not fully fledged. It has more exploits than V2 currently due to it's infancy and without adblockers and cookie blockers, you just know malicious ads are going to get through and use those exploits. Hackers will eat that shit up. And I'm aware that Firefox is still taking on V3 but the difference is, it's also keeping web request meaning adblockers, no, all privacy extensions will remain usable and stop said exploits to an extent. It's not completely fool proof but it's better than what Chrome is becoming. Of course there are. Doesn't change that Firefox has objectively better privacy settings than Chrome nor does it change the above paragraph. It's funded by Google as is everything else web related. It doesn't change their current business model. They are still a separate entity with a different company, you know that, right? Mozilla has a different goal in mind. Of course they still want money, that's just business. But their goal is to make a more secure and privacy focused browser whereas Google primarily wants to cater to advertisers and be the leading company on the web. It's likely why the settings for cookies takes much more going out of the way to look for than Firefox's cookies settings. Same with adblocking extensions. Google gives you a brief paragraph that they exist and that's it, the rest is on you and the average user won't bother. Firefox practically serves it on a silver platter lol, being one of the first customizable options it presents to you meaning the average user might take a look. I'd give this more merit if this was only recent but this has been the case for a long time and yet Mozilla is actively breaking Google's models and wants. Probably why Google wants to cut funding tbh. Um... So does Chrome and even Edge? Almost every browser does. Not a problem with blockers, which again, won't exist on Chromium in January unless it's one of those specialized browsers with built in blockers. And no, advertisers aren't happy, it's probably why Google wants to severe the line. Because I need it. I have no choice. Firefox also lets you sync. If I had a choice, things would be different. But it's needed for important things so I have to use it.

He wasn't objective. At all. He called Chrome and Edge "this file is unknown and weird" warnings "detections", which is stupid and blatantly shows you the biggest difference between these three browsers: that two of the three of them are openly spying on their users and sending data back to Google and Microsoft on downloaded files and god knows what else. Even without having to spy on its users, Firefox still detected on 93%. And I mean actually detected, not "hurr durr this file is weird none of my spyware data has noticed it".

The internet memes are trust breaking, now i trust swiper the fox more than the internetters

@@8xus_ Swiper, no swiping. Swiper no swiping. Swiper... aww...dang it...

I been using brave for along time it's truly amazing

Brave is pro-NFT, constantly gives crypto related popups, and steals profit from sites by redirecting URLs to ones they profit from. Just another phony privacy browser. I'll stick with Firefox and Tor.

@@taxicabcole7264 lmao you do you I like my security when I'm on the internet

I've been using Brave for years on both my Linux laptop and Android. It's pretty good. As anything on the internet it's only so private. Firefox with the right settings and plugins is the only other viable option it seems. Brave is my preferred Android browser for now.

@@Moochi4 firefox and tor especially are literally way more secure than brave is the thing

they're on point for the technologies they bother to develop, it's just the problem is that they drop a lot of their own tech seemingly out of nowhere sometimes. off the top of my head, Silverlight and XNA as examples

It can't really be "much" better than Chrome because Microsoft switched to Chromium relatively recently, Chrome's open-source engine. Before the switch the old Edge could not really keep up competitively, now they run about the same speed wise.

@@freecomkcf Windows Defender SmartScreen has been around for a while now, and Windows Defender even longer. Originally Windows Defender was an embarrassing anti-virus but now it's really good and probably has a massive database of signatures. As far as Edge goes itself, it's literally just modified Chromium, so they probably only touched 1% to make it work, and added 10% more to make it Microsoft.

For me, a Firefox user, the main reason I refuse Edge is purely because MS tries to shove it down my throat every oportunity they get, perhaps if they stopped doing such things I'd actually try it out and make an objective desicion about it.

@@Felipe_9999 Even MS Office will archive user data until an internet connection is established then send it to Microsoft. That means Microsoft is logging what you do even when offline. Get outta the rat trap that is Microsoft Windows. I'd love to say switch to Linux, but most people don't take too kindly to that nowadays, even though it's way better.

DuckDuckGo sells your data though.

Your chances of getting malware from a browser on linux is probably near 0 unless you're trying to get some

The beauty of Linux. It's come a long way in the last few years. Team Penguin forever!

Here's the thing tho, almost all safe files I've downloaded do not warn on Edge, and when they do, it's either unsigned or from a site that's known to also host viruses, even if it's not the file you downloaded. Also, if people click "keep" than it adds a human variable to virus detection which is impossible to effectively test. The person behind the screen is the weakest security link.

You just sound like a boomer who doesn't understand technology. Yes, you can use adblocker on chrome and I've never had any of my chrome settings reset in the last 10+ years I've used it so that sounds like a you problem not a chrome problem.

I've tried all of them and norton safeweb addon came out on top. Literally nothing got past it, not even phishing links.

@@himankan Can you provide the list which extensions you have used?

@@hadestemplar1467 Malwarebytes browser guard, norton safe web, web of trust, bitdefender traffic light, AVG/Avast Online security, Emsisoft security, Avira Browser Safety, McAfee WebAdvisor to name a few. McAfee did perform decently but it needs another program to be installed and I've had bad experiences with their AV, so I stay away. Kaspersky performs well too but you'll need the complete AV suite for it to work. I expected bitdefender to perform well but it failed in filtering newer phishing links. Note: ublock origin was always turned on and https mode was turned on for firefox in all the tests.

@@himankan and may to hear in which way testings where done and to which elements where primary focused?

@@hadestemplar1467 the first test was against phishing links, if they could identify and block random phishing websites that promised free btc or ether and contained links pointing to malicious crypto wallets and fake giveaways. This is also the most common method for the elderly to fall for support scams. The second test was against sites with invalid or expired certificates, if it could identify and warn users, (Trust score). Most websites hosting pirated content don't have legitimate certificates. The third test was regarding websites containing dangerous download links, similar to whats hosted in eicar, if it could block the website or the download of such content.

Theres settings you can tweak

MS database stored locally and online

Wasn't putty infected recently? Something along those lines.

@@ardeof Very true, ya..

@@ardeof I thought it was only a modified infected version of putty that was being distributed around, but not an official version.

@@pikenote Ah yeah now that i'm looking at it, it's a "trojanized version of putty" not the putty source itself that was affected.

@@ardeof that's ok, the point still stands, just with SolarWinds instead of putty. To be fair, i don't expect a browser to be a 'security control', but if we're testing it as one, we might as well enumerate its practical impact (which message/warning fatigue is a big part of when not blocking).

Based on my experience, edge strictly warns user for unpopular .exe.

Probably any .exe that isn't popular has that warning, which is counted as a detection in this test. Considering Chrome was also doing this and had a lower detection%, I'd say Edge is safer for this purpose.

Opera gx Is great but the clean UI in edge is timeless, after you get used to opera gx initially great features you start to feel... Weird using it, you start to notice all the details and how super hyper gamer it looks... I don't know how to explain

I use streaming services, mainly Netflix, on PC. Edge is the only one that allows streaming at higher than 720p resolution.

@@Kepitano You can set Netflix to 4K too. Will it be actually 4K, though? Netflix only allows higher-quality playback on Safari and Edge since it can make use of hardware-level DRM on these browsers. Chrome uses software DRM which Netflix views as a risk. There is an add-on for Chrome that let's you watch Netflix at 1080p, but not higher. And I don't use Safari. So I stream in Edge. It takes a single Google search to find this out yourself. "lol"

You do realize that Microsoft tracks everything you do on Edge, don't you? Edge is not secure at all, even less is Chrome because they do the same.

@@HeavenlyWarrior microsoft are smart, they know that if they did that, their reputation wouldnt even exist anymore He lies, case closed

@@8xus_ If they did that? It's not if, they do that. lol

did you ever use it or just making the claim from thin air, it doesn't block every exe only suspicious ones. I literally checked it rn by downloading 10 different authentic exe files.

Yes. I would like to know the false positive rates

It doesn't tho, did you test it. I tested it just now and it doesn't warn for legitimate exes