Right?! Sign me up! I'd love to race my Road King in like a stock class or something lmao.

As of right now in 2021 they are going to have a three race series.

I’m in

It would be another rally spot for bikers. And it would be awesome

It would be harley's last stand, they are in so much financial trouble.

Think this was bad...watch some Monster Jam. I swear they got those guys programmed on a soundboard. They never shut up and I just wanna hear some big V8 power. But yea, the one guy doesn't shut up in this race either. But, it's also their job.

Dont take me bad, I love having Roger Hayden as a comentator with the rest of the crew. Couldn't do without them. It's just that the engine sound was almost muted.

Yeah gotta admit american commentators tend to do it way over the top. Shutting up should be a required thing

This is awful. These commentators are great. But I want to know about the engines. They missed the mark completely, and I'm so irritated. Nobody cares about the crowd, or the riders. WE want to want to see the engines!!!!!!!

Pet peeve: sports announcers

Push rod/air cooled = new

@@davidmathis7030 mathis=douche!!

@@TheBustedNut ouch you hurt my stupid feelings.

Absolutely.

ha! Still will never buy a Harley. Rented a newer one with 1,900km on it and it broke down!!!

@@NightdreamerMagazine that use to be typical for older HARLEY AMF. I THOUGHT THE NEWER EV MOTORS BETTER

You're exactly right. Food ol competition brings people to the dealership. Also, these bikes need to handle better for a better ride experience.

Remember when we could compete and win at the world leave... this is us going backwards.

@@davidmathis7030 Well, now they know they need to catch up. This is the best thing to happen in a while.

Mahalo 🤙

This is why the usa can't compete at a international level... willful ignorance. Shameful.

@@davidmathis7030 Can you explain a little? Thanks.

richieg parrett they only race harleys and Indians. If you let other baggers compete they will never see the podium

Hawaii or Hawaiian? Loved it while I was there, now I have to plan visits.

bring back the two strokers too, they were fun to watch

nah its lame as hell. It will be boring after 3 races

PumpkinSpiceLatte no one asked for your opinion and nagging. I bet you can’t even ride a bagger lol.

@@liammoodyfilms Riding a bagger is a beginner bike lol.

Way more relatable, makes you feel like your out there on your bike.

4 of the hogs, one never started, were DNF from mechanical failure as well. Interestingly, that's a 37% mechanical failure rate in their field which actually kinda lines up with Harley reliability over the initial 3 years of ownership according to CR.

@@mattshaggs2931 HD's is 26% not 37%, and its 4 years not 3. 33% is ducati, 40% is BMW.

@@FranBunnyFFXII Oh, yes, thanks for correcting me. This must mean Harley reliability is going down considering the ratio in the race. Thank you for making that point! Now, remind me, where was Victory in that study? Somewhere closer to half of Harleys rate than to parity?

​@@mattshaggs2931 I'm not sure this can be a reflection here, HD didn't modify or assemble these engines? i.e. the teams buy a bike air-cooled so not run recent engine technology in comparison to the Indian WC, fit aftermarket parts the teams manufacture themselves or buy, build the engines themselves and its HD's fault they blow up??? I get it. I think HD must be the most hated marque available and most people pretty much no what HD's reliability rating is so i doubt they need constantly reminded and for HD to sort out. I don't know why some people cant enjoy what is going on here rather than ruining it for themselves, Its meant as a fun series. Instead wouldn't it be great for other teams to include baggers from other manufacturers in the series or maybe all Indian to suit the HD haters!

@@nightster6378 I was pointing out some irony and intentionally went sarcastic when someone took my "tongue in cheek" comment too hard. To Harley's credit, the 131 in second place was a crate engine straight from Harley...and it finished the race. The Indians were also factory assembled.

I'd watch anything at this point as long as harley would bring back the Bronx. I'm still hurting for that bike man.

@@AndrewDemonbreun me to 😢

@@AndrewDemonbreun they canceled it because they are likely going to come out with the custom. expect an announcement for a 2022 model. Has the bigger version of the new motor that is the same as found in the pan America, 150hp. excited to see it

@@AndrewDemonbreun Harley is a dying manufacturer of their own doing. Screw Harley they refuse to innovate for the sake of a boomer base that is rapidly declining.

I’m not so sure. Indian taking over American Flat Track, over the last few years, hasn’t been a wake up call. Harley-Davidson almost quit AFT because of it.

Wake up call? Indian is bringing out 3 new models..the Scout produces @38% more horsepower than the comparable Harley.. HD losing dealerships..shrinking in every market,discontinuing many models..ouch @31,000 electric motorcycle that has already been recalled!! And a big dual sport that makes BMW buyers cough at the price

Absolutely

You are so right! HD is going to have to step up their game to produce a product that is not just riding on it's name! (Proud owner of a Roadmaster)

Problem with HD they are just a clothing merchandising company that happens to make bikes. HD's are the only machine that turns fuel into noise. They have spent the last few decades assuming they are cool simply because of their name, so they have become arrogant and up themselves knowing full well that there is a certain demographic that will buy a HD just because of the name despite the shit quality.

I was thinking the same thing. Harley porn

When you take something and put it in a competetive situation it wasn't intended for its usually good to watch. This didn't dissapoint.

Right?!? That's what I was thinking! I love my 2020 SGS!

I have to agree with you.

IF I were to give a thumbs down, it would be for the incessant yammering of the commentators......seriously, STFU!

@@rebelguy9487 It's their first time, they were overly excited.

Yamaha...

As a proud American, this is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen.

@@davidmathis7030 why’s that? It’s new and exciting, shows what the bikes are capable of. Would you rather Harley rest on their laurels until they finally go bankrupt?

Harly is welcome to make all the big touring bikes they want, they are good at that but when they need moto America to drag there name through the mud so they can get a participation award. I as a proud American motorcycle racing fan will call it what it is. A demonstration of what ingnorant enthusiasm gets you. A bagger race at the bottom of a deep self dug hole of shame.

@@davidmathis7030 this is literally a class Harleys are made for, why are you so defensive about it? Are you bitter about their involvement in flat track racing too?

Bitter about them stealing flat tack yes I am.

I think your wrong. Nicky wanted the usa to be taken seriously not a side show to real racing to sell fat men slow bikes.

@@davidmathis7030 I think Nicky just loved to ride and as for slow did you notice that O'Hara was only 12 seconds off Beaubier's lap record? On a bagger.

Whats that like 2 seconds slower than a stock ninja 250? Slow.

@@davidmathis7030 Well, it's obvious that you don't like them and nothing anyone says will change your mind. However, you might want to take a look at the rest of the comments on here and note the overwhelming support. It seems to me that anything that gets more people watching can't be anything but a good thing. Oh, and by the way, pole lap for the twins cup was a high 1:31. Less than half a second faster. Now I'm sure you know best but an SV650 is just a bit faster than a 250 Ninja.

@@davidmathis7030 I’m an 18 year old normal ass guy and I ride a street glide. they don’t all end up being rode by fat old men as you say. This was an awesome event and it’s awesome to see something different from sport bikes during a time many people may want more online entertainment than usual but there will always be people like you hating on things for no reason

Yeah the production quality was poor but the racing was fun.

I'm not sure what the Indian had done but im pretty sure from the smoke, they built it for a few laps.

@@jamiebassell9225 the smoke was from leaking rear brake fluid onto the exhaust

2 seconds isnt several seconds.

Also keep in mind that the Indian was the only bike out there with full factory support. There was more time and money dumped into that thing than any other bike there.

liquid cooling is dam good.

I wonder how the 111 Thunder Stroke would do? Air cooled vs air cooled.

Yeah hopefully we gain a few air cooled Indian teams..

yea this water cooling feels like an unfair advantage. the basically stock Indian can just wipe the floor with these crazy modified big-bore/turbo Harleys. but on the other hand, there isn't the aftermarket for the air-cooled Indians to make them competitive. maybe the water indians should stay and the harly teams just gotta step up their game. if this going to continue I dont want this to become a one manufacturer series.

Harley’s are faster on the straights but just have shit handling

Yeah but check out the pipes. They cut them up high. There is NO way on this planet these bikes, ESPECIALLY Harleys can go round corners this fast with standard height pipes.

This is a good race to you?... moto3.

@@davidmathis7030 Yes its a good race to me.

That’s exactly what I was thinking

Really......STFU commentators!

Utter non-stop blathering for the whole thing. Unwatchable with the sound on.

If I wanted to hear loud baggers I'd just go about my life thre is always some fat man making gasoline into noise without the unwanted byproduct of horse power in any town.

@@davidmathis7030 Haha, it`s called the male menopause and arrives to some in their twenties nowadays. Bald head with big bushy Mo beard to try to compensate for their follicly challenged bonce, quadruplets bear gut, Village People bike gear, farty old V that a 250 can outperform....then they go home so grumpy from garnering zero approval from anyone and no satisfaction for themselves, so strip to their tent-sized shreddies and wife-beater vest, slump back in their oversized armchair and demand the missus bring them a crate of bear.

Yeah, as soon as I watched this video, I got sweaty palms. I love this class of racing!

👍👌🍻

@@Jonathan-L I know bro. Every race is personal

Definitely i am looking forward to the new technology, lighter bikes, bigger breaks and more power out of the box 😎. Road glide rider and im not bitter Indian took the first W. Im stoked to see whats in the near future

@@nothingbutpokemon2145 Hell yea, this is the type of competition we need. Its only gonna bring the best out of both companies and create a whole bunch of goodies to upgrade our bikes.

Not a Bagger guy either but love it.

Looks like it was a good idea! Thanks for watching.

@@MotoAmerica Next time make them all ride 2 up with a girl on the back. It's a bagger race, my man. Do it right.

We ride heavy bike. !!

Agreed. They're fkng flying. Ben bostrom hauls ass and he was only in 4th till bike took a shit.

The stock Indians would crush all the harleys

They actually do a lot better than you think. A British guy took a big twin harley to a track event and he was smoking a lot of other bikes.

You won't. They'd get lapped and ripped apart by Honda wings and beemer 1600Bs

As per the rules The Indian challenger engines are stock. So aside from slight modifications it is a production bike! =)

@@tubatravis some of the Harleys on the field ran a turbo so I don't see that on the parts catalog... 😆

All the bikes were highly modified.

@@06standard1 roland sands bike modified the suspension, exhaust ,air intake,tune and that's it

@@mondragon078 Harley could run up to 131" and Indian 108" for displacement. Internal mods for sure. You can't buy a Harley or Indian pushing around 150-160 horsepower straight from the factory.

Exactly my thoughts. 👌😎👍

Awesome to see this happening. We the greenwood posse love these bikes , to have races with baggers is finominal.