I've got a 2014 SE model with the quick shifter, the first of the part water cooled ones. I absolutely love it. As a bike to ride all year round in the UK's climate (except when there is a hint of ice, I'm not that stupid!) it is just fantastic. Superb fairing, heated grips, heated seat, optional larger touring screen, it really does look after you. Some of my best rides have been around North Wales in the pissing down rain and the way the bike handles is just awesome. I've always used Michelin Road Pilot 4 GTs and the bike feels so planted even when it is sluicing down. I believe from reading reviews on touring tires on the market now that the Road Pilot 4 GTs have been bettered. I'm a bit of stick in the mud and was reluctant to change as I new what I was getting with the Pilot 4s and I had total confidence in them. Only just put new front and rear on, had the bike dealer serviced and was looking forward to getting some good rides in when Boris announced another lock down, doh! My only criticism of the bike from a riding point of view is that its weight and size can make it a little tricky to manoeuvre and peddle around on nadgery little off-camber country lanes if you happen to take a wrong turn. Done plenty of that! But that's only to be expected on such a big bike. No reverse unfortunately. The bike had a few warranty claims in the first three years of ownership that needed sorting out and I must say that BMW were very good at seeing to them. Mine is now well out of warranty so it's fingers crossed. As for the new model. I'd be a liar if I said I wouldn't have one. But my 'old' one is still doing all I want from a touring bike and I just could not justify the expense of changing. I didn't mean to write so much but I hope my comments have struck a chord with other owners and have been useful to anyone thinking of getting this brilliant bike. You may even be able to snap up a good deal on the outgoing model before the new one hits the showroom. Stay safe everyone.
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
Hi, same year here. I love it so much 😉 Once I stopped aside a vibrating backfiring Harley chopper at a traffic light, the guy looked at me and said "mine is almost as comfortable lol", I started "Bad to the bones" on the audio, we went laughing and 👍✌ Biking is a life.
@reddog955i63 жыл бұрын
Have 2016 , love it and its paid for , in us you cant buy a base model ,,,,,
@cyclistman63583 жыл бұрын
My style of riding is to “intervene manually” all of the time when on my bike!
@pjp9673 жыл бұрын
That's a way to enjoy the machine but you miss the real joy of riding. Try it! Put you fake manhood to the side for a minute and learn from doing so. Try an a dct from Honda you plus eventually one day the adaptative cruise control and you will never go back to the previous century type of riding. But hey to each is own, I am not going back to manual gearbox anytime soon I enjoy riding 10 times more.
@letitrest46623 жыл бұрын
@@pjp967 If we keep at it, NO ONE except the one percent will be able to afford a vehicle, of any kind. Which of course is the plan.
@pjp9673 жыл бұрын
@@letitrest4662 keep at it or not we're screwed anyway haha
@289wolf3 жыл бұрын
What is not mentioned is that when you load up a motorbike with all the electronic goodies, not only does price and complexity go way up but what about a few years down the road when the drivetrain is still perfectly capable of many more miles and some electronic accessory breaks down and the cost is super high to replace it ? Do you toss a perfectly good bike because it's actual value is not worth sinking a thousand dollars or much more into it ? Or after 7 years or whatever the gov't requires from a manufacturer, critical electronic parts are not available . Some of these electronic features are very alluring but for what they are asking for these new bikes, you would be wise to think long term before you lay your money down.
@chrisrobertson9264 Жыл бұрын
Yea their bikes are a lot like their cars plastic junk They might have exciting electronics but they don’t hold a candle to my 73 /5 in quality and durability
@theonlyredspecial3 жыл бұрын
Cracking bike. Almost bought one but went for the k1600 for the engine and other goodies. Another good presentation mate. You are the best at these news style motorbike videos on KZfaq. Id love to see you doing videos on the mcn news or something similar every month even though tmf does it too. To get your take on breaking news .
@user-cx2bk6pm2f3 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it that inline 6 was developed from alien technology. Sooooo good.
@andrewd75863 жыл бұрын
Having adaptive cruise on a couple of my cars, being old school, ok old, I still don’t rely on this system! Having said that it, the system on cars works brilliantly & I’ve actually used it to come to a complete stop at traffic lights without me intervening. Scary? Hell yeah! But again, it does work! So no qualms with buying any bike with this feature.😎👍🏼 Thank God they’ve added the TFT.... FINALLY!🤤
@R12gsa093 жыл бұрын
All safety aids, at least for the average Joe like myself, are game changers. I’ve been riding bikes since 1987 (Bultaco 360) and I’d say that the absence of blind spot warning such as the one in Ducati or KTM, is a big miss for the big Beemer that wants to be synonymous with safety and riding experience.
@Visionery13 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how every new model is the best thing since popcorn... until the next model.
@ridewherever3 жыл бұрын
Rich retired travelers are buying this bike, so the cost doesn’t mean anything to them. If I would ever hit the lottery I’d buy one. It’s an awesome bike.
@skipwalker32693 жыл бұрын
I truly dislike the shift toward angry designs. Give us some HAPPY looking bikes!
@bryanthompson123 жыл бұрын
agreed...thats my only critique
@eddisc42053 жыл бұрын
seems like EVERY bike these daze has to look like it just got off camera from a TRANSFORMERS movie set - yuk
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
@@ron_grimes Which appear once your ass is on this bike 😁
@directlinkrexx44093 жыл бұрын
The market wants aggressive looking everything
@BadGuyDennis3 жыл бұрын
The previous version has a good balance between aggressive and cute look (with those big roundish side lights). I also don't like that iPhone 15 as the dashboard. I still prefer some gauges.
@circlekings3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Motorcycle Folks. Dispense with the naysayers and sour grapes - I ordered mine today. Shall sell current bike and car to afford it! One Life 👍❤️☺️
@stevesharkey33123 жыл бұрын
What’s delivery rime scale? Get it by Feb corroded by next Christmas...
@johnnyfortpants14153 жыл бұрын
Hope you really enjoy the bike mate.
@jsprite1233 жыл бұрын
Needs 2 things to make it perfect: Reverse gear and Blind Spot Monitoring. I'd trade the active cruise control for these 2.
@yankieko3 жыл бұрын
Bro that is basically a car
@mw99843 жыл бұрын
Sold the wife and my kids for this bike and I’m still 26.000 short...
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
I'm not happy with it, do you accept return & refund ?
@louteix99813 жыл бұрын
I will cover that deal with the girlfriend!🤣😂🤣
@vmax42dave3 жыл бұрын
How the H. did we survive the 70' and 80's on Rice burners and air cooled bmer's - oh yes it was fun and cheap :)
@eugeneteo96643 жыл бұрын
i want a radar that tells me where is the speed trap.
@nairbyad71883 жыл бұрын
and jams it
@sowen12743 жыл бұрын
I just hope to see some of this tech as well as the new TFT screen be on the K1600 line. The current dash on the K1600 line is dated and they have that amazing TFT screen, so, why not just put it on??
@1200743 жыл бұрын
Not interested in adaptive cruise control on a motorcycle but luv it in my truck
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
I like the back radar though.
@ronniefranks43513 жыл бұрын
I love BMW and have owned two. Let my last one go because there aren’t enough dealers and it was way too far to go for service. If I had a local dealer, I’d be riding one.
@TonVerkleijT33 жыл бұрын
I'm still not so sure about adaptive cruise control. I had it in my Ford Mondeo and I had some hairy moments with it especially when cars changed lane just in front of me, it was to slow to react. Furthermore the harsh on- and of reaction was not really pleasant, and when approaching intersections it sometimes lost track. When BMW has designed a true adaptive cruise control for it's motorbikes then I would suspect that at least the flaws I described has been solved.
@67daltonknox3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a new 2020 KTM 1290 SAS out the door for $16,500. I don't think paying an extra $10,000 for adaptive cruise control would be a good deal.
@throttlechaser5413 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal bike, incredible tehnology. I say that BMW is 3-4 steps ahead evry other bike manufacturer
@johnnyfortpants14153 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob. Always enjoy your vids.
@iveywin2 жыл бұрын
Nice ride although not sure how many owners want to ride motorways or yield control to the moto. Still prefer “angry owl” xenon headlights to “ironman” LEDs and not sure Rider Mode Pro technology is necessary as part of the joy of riding is direct throttle management. Only thing missing is integrated voice activated technology to unite and fully integrate the moto and rider! BMW Motorrad needs to change its slogan from “Make Life a Ride” to “Make Your Ride Complex!” Will stay with the 2018 cruise missile K1600GT and upgrade to the 2021 space shuttle GTL instead, for my next ride because of the additional power over the boxer while keeping my ride simple! Thanks for posting!
@Jodyrides3 жыл бұрын
Simple/reliable is what made BMW famous in the first place. Motorcycles that could be serviced by the owner. bMWs have increasingly become complex. You have to marry the dealer when you buy a BMW now.. last time I was at the BMW dealer to buy filters for my k1200 lt,,shop labor rate was $110. @ hr.. there was a k1200 lt in the shop for a clutch replacement due to the slave cylinder leaking fluid on the clutch..i asked the mechanic doing the job the cost...$4500... and that was in 2009... my best friend has had 3 bmw cars..every scheduled maint visit to the dealer cost between $800. and $2000... I currently own a gl1800 gold wing and a Moto Guzzi Norge.. I recently did a 15,000 mi service to my Norge.. everything from clean/lube the steering head bearings, fork oil change the clutch and brake fluid, adjust the valves, clean and re-greased the rear suspension pivot/ linkage bearings, lubed driveshaft splines, change in the gas tank fuel filter,I even inspected the oil pump ..Simple I went out on that limb one time buying a BMW. Never again. My BMW K 1200 LT was the most flawed quirky motorcycle with that weird front end that I ever owned and I have owned dozens of motorcycles.. One sidenote. I struck a deer at 70 miles an hour on my BMW K 1200 LT. Both mirrors flew off and went straight to China. Those mirrors 12 years ago cost $492 each..Total damage was $5500, but the cost of each mirror alone was an eye opener..Those BMW mirrors were almost exactly the same as on my Honda Pacific coast. I checked to see how much the mirrors for my commuter bike, the honda Pacific coast cost at that time. $72 each..That pretty much sums up the reason I’ll never buy a BMW anything. The cost of the parts, and the scheduled maintenance costs that you cannot do the scheduled maintenance chores yourself..The ones you can do, Like change the clutch and brake fluid, you need special bmw tools to do those.. all of this ultra complexity makes bmw less and less desirable to me.. I don’t go for the gadgets. I’ve had two ventures, BMW, and now a gold wing, I never even turn the radio on, never..I just want a motorcycle, not a 767..I am very interested in when Suzuki reintroduces their all new Touring machine with air conditioning
@phillipmitchell58793 жыл бұрын
Good review - thx! - I'm not a tech fan. As 'wonderful' as these tech advances may seem, they equally open the door for more to go wrong, & more complication. I'd prefer that these clever engineers concentrate more on the bike's dependability, longevity, handling, clean styling & such.
@TheGreatestBeyonder3 жыл бұрын
I had a 5 series that had this feature. It works well. The new bike looks very nice, but sitting on a motorway for hours sounds painful to me and to be avoided at all costs!
@neilwatson58643 жыл бұрын
ACC will be a great addition for the long range rider. Took some getting used to in my car, but wouldn’t be without it now.
@UncleWally33 жыл бұрын
With respect to the grand touring bikes, there’s an emergent demographic - ahem - that is being drawn to the current “automatic” (DCT like) transmissions and reverse/forward crawl speed options. I hated DCT when it was introduced, but Honda’s 2020 examples are quite brilliant. The features I once mocked are, sadly, now much more appealing. People change, so does technology; getting the right fit between the two is no small challenge.
@david911hd93 жыл бұрын
Merci Bob pour cette présentation J’ai la Rt 1250 actuelle et c’est vraiment une super moto , très protectrice. Pour faire de la route il me semble qu’elle est un must. Pour les plus petits trajets je prends ma Harley.
@inspectorchicken3 жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed that the BMW Press material is made with the K1600, which is not available anymore in 2021?
@mobeyond3 жыл бұрын
Make dct available on this bike
@MsDenver23 жыл бұрын
I think the adaptive control is good but as I found on my vw Tiguan car it can catch you out in certain situations. So I always cover my break on my car . For instance if there’s a line of moving traffic ahead it keeps the set distance. But if the first car ahead suddenly changes lane it doesn’t always pick up the next car ahead of you . I found it tries to excellerate in to the next car and I have to take over. I don’t know why it does that?
@ram64man3 жыл бұрын
Honda please release a updated pan European to complete a dct shaft drive euro 5/6 would be great
@kevincraig82573 жыл бұрын
that 719 model reminds me of the Moto Guzzi Italian pretty sweet
@padwah3 жыл бұрын
beautiful bike. now for the fully electric or hydrogen rt
@davidgreve10813 жыл бұрын
The BMW R/1250/RT is a nice touring bike as it sits. The hill assist, and the cruise assist is quite interesting and would be a welcome feature on this bike. Its a Bike that you can put it in the wind and ride for hours without fatigue. What more would you want on a bike that offers so much in touring pleasure?
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
Hill assist is included since 2014. I use this bike as a "commuter", it's the most secured I ever had. Even it's cylinder saved my foot once.
@paulclarke12333 жыл бұрын
Hi moto bob , I think the naked version you mentioned would be the one i would go for because I prefer nakids and would be the one I think would be the one I could afford and as you said would make a good tourer
@BrusselsSouth3 жыл бұрын
the wide screen is intresting. will this be on the next GS ? if so, no Motorrad Navigator VI needed.
@keithrobinson57523 жыл бұрын
How often is it the case you run into the back of a moving vehicle as opposed one that is stop which this does not work for ?
@CarlosTilbury3 жыл бұрын
I have active Cruise Control in my Golf and its superb, not sure I want it on my bike though.
@aaronharris52753 жыл бұрын
For me there has to be an element of cheapness and economy when considering a motorcycle. These bikes must be lovely to ride on a long run but at the same time huge and expensive. Dropping a bike like this would be write off. It's hard to get in and out of a garage like mine. I think money would be best spent on a nice car if you have this kind of budget. Then just have a simple bike for fun or hire one for the touring. Interesting tech all the same but very car like with vehicle following radar etc.
@mverick54443 жыл бұрын
These bikes are lifestyle products. They are designed to fulfill a niche market which demands luxury and comfort features on two wheels. The US especially dominates this market. Elsewhere in South and south east Asia, motorcycles are cheap commodity and are used for daily errands and navigating broken muddy roads. You will be surprised how people in Africa and South Asia improvise their tiny 100 cc motorcycles by making it a trike with wooden cart and bicycle wheels.
@9999plato3 жыл бұрын
My idea of cruise control and riders modes is the right wrist.
@gregorgman3 жыл бұрын
I want to drive my own bike, not have it driven for me. I love my regular cruise that I have had since 2009. Just enough.
@ski34353 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@57lieu3 жыл бұрын
Honda should take note of this dash. Looks brilliant. I think the dash on the new (2018 on...) GW is sorely lacking in comparison.
@AlexVitoriano3 жыл бұрын
Here in BR is impossible to have, but if I have the amount of money, living in EU, is one bike to have!
@AJG763 жыл бұрын
I’d love one of these 1250rts ( I’ve currently got a F800GT) but I can’t help feeling there is an element of ‘ massive scooter ‘ about the look of the front. All subjective tho I guess .
@JeffMarcum3 жыл бұрын
I like the TFT upgrade along with the removal of the 1980s antenna. It would look even better if they would have redesigned the flat rear end of the panniers. This bike from the rear looks like an Amazon box. 🤣
@DavidSmith-ve5kj3 жыл бұрын
Does it still have shift assistance and hill hold?
@davidspez72673 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike. Great additions, only bmw pushes the boundaries for bikes like Volvo in cars/trucks.
@mavho1393 жыл бұрын
i'd like BMW to put the antenna back. there is a boring area at re-designed front fairing.
@willvenlos94983 жыл бұрын
As an avid fan of RT's..... (I've owned 5 from Airheads, Oilheads, hex heads, to a 15 Water-cooled, etc) they are incredible machines but have fun working on them with all of the technology..I guess I'm an old fart but some of BMW's "improvements" over the years I find to actually be counter-intuitive...I guess they depend heavily on Yuppies without any mechanical chops to pay for $1400 American for an Inspection 2.......
@bobuk57223 жыл бұрын
Not enough dealerships. BMW need to have their car dealerships take these bikes in for service and arrange onwards transport to a service centre. There's no dealership anywhere near enough for me to consider this manufacturer. BobUK.
@JohnMiller-ub8dy3 жыл бұрын
That is the best idea i have ever heard for BMW . Stubborn germans probably will ignore this great idea .
@PInk77W13 жыл бұрын
Does it burn oil ? I read somewhere the R nine T burns oil ?
@Covid-oz1rg3 жыл бұрын
I prefer "R" to be more simple and less plastic.
@gerardoesquivel99193 жыл бұрын
Whats the weight of the bike? Is it the same or more than the last?
@LK-bz9sk3 жыл бұрын
Those huge Brembo brakes!!
@lolitacajucom19673 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful motorbike. Top high standard and absolutely high quality brand..very impressive motorbike.
@letitrest46623 жыл бұрын
From one who has both owned and repaired 11 motorcycles in my 60 years, including two different BMW's , the "quality" is more marketing, than truth. BTW, I've been an aircraft mechanic for 33 years.
@jamesdumas66023 жыл бұрын
I have Adaptive Cruise Control on my car, I find, that I seldom use it. What I'm waiting for before I buy a new bike is a Reverse gear, like the Honda Goldwing has. If the Goldwing had a bigger gas tank, tour pack, and top-loading saddle bags I'd be looking at buying one.
@michaelbayliss17943 жыл бұрын
The 2021 GW has a larger top box now , went from 50 liters to 61 liters . They didn't change the gas tank tho. They claim it will carry two full face helmets. With a full tank I can get about 260 miles on my 2018 GW , depending on how I drive of course. It will out do my bladder , so I have to stop before the bike needs to stop . Ride safe .
@chetlovesamerica67833 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbayliss1794 I still ride my 1986 GW 1200,,185,000 MILES ,,I had to modify a Toyota alternator with little effort over 8yrs ago.still runs like new .tires & oil change & cheap gas .HONDA RELIABILITY is Amazing ♡,lol...
@vanislerider73113 жыл бұрын
I'd like this on my bike. I don't want to buy a Beemer but I like the idea of active cruise control.
@57lieu3 жыл бұрын
It will also be on the 2021 Super Adventure. Front and rear. Same basic system. They’re all made by Bosch. Good stuff.
@vanislerider73113 жыл бұрын
@@57lieu Nice.
@viasevenvai3 жыл бұрын
So, animation says k1600 wont get the new screen but it will get the radar....in 2022 I guess. That helps as Im debating how hard I should slap myself for not getting one now.
@_audacerider38383 жыл бұрын
To answer your question about tech I would say yes it definitely helps just looks at MotoGP thouse bikes are riding computers and you dont see the riders complaining about it! I last year I was burying new (to me) motorcycle and I must say the final verdict went in fervor of my Moto Guzzi California Audace 1400 that has switchblade tracion control, 3 riding modes (rain tour sport) and cruise control! All the other bikes i was considering didn't have that so it was a big plus for the Guzzi. Plus if I want to burn rubber I can swich TC off and leave big black lines behind me! But with a big Vtwin heaving TC is a plus especially on a cold wet mornings or evenings where the grip is limited. Yoi don't feel ot but you sometimes see the TC light flashing on the dash. Extra safety is always a good thing. Same as the cruise control I always thought it is a gimmick until i did over 40 miles on a motorway with an average speed limit. My god what a blessing it was! Now R1250RT is probably epick but for my needs it is a bit to big and a bit to expensive. I would get the R1250RS and so should the 70% of all the tarmack only GS roders out there. But if you know that you gonna be doing two up touring all the time then RT is the best choice for you from the R1250 line-up
@bruceleong95343 жыл бұрын
Great, in-depth review Rob. What I really want is a 43” TFT screen synced with Apple TV and Dynamic Autonomous Mode so I can watch The Bachelor instead of the road. I’d probably specify the optional Jason Recliner Rocker seat with heated doona so I can have a little nap whilst the bike navigates the twisties for me too. Do you know when this will be available?
@avitarmageddon17213 жыл бұрын
It's here and it's called the 1 series! They've cleverly added two wheels and extra seats. Performance is a bit off but with the extra features you don't need to give a fuck about what's going on around you!
@bruceleong95343 жыл бұрын
@@avitarmageddon1721 😂
@chrishawkley4003 жыл бұрын
Fabulos review, really helpful
@lpete5313 жыл бұрын
Very very nice and long over due.
@bikedude59113 жыл бұрын
For me the issue with adaptive cruise is that if the system is so sensitive and reduces power very gradually, you sometimes don't even know you've slowed down. This happened a number of times with our new car and it did it as such a distance that you never felt it. Drove me bonkers. I would rather it slowed down deliberately so that the driver/rider notices the reduction in speed and adjusts. I would rather have dynamic cruise where it is able to maintain speed over varied terrain (up or down).
@motobob3 жыл бұрын
I get what you mean - at least could be made really clear on the dash as you don’t want it slowing down too deliberately...
@spkuse3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the adaptive cruise control. Do not like it in cars either. It’s called “pay attention when driving” folks. Antilock brakes, LED lighting, slipper clutches, cruise control, heated seats, ride by wire, tire pressure ready, are what is needed on bikes. This adaptive stuff is just super extra stuff that is not needed.
@pknzevenaar56953 жыл бұрын
To me riding a bike, any kind of bike, is about controlling it, playing with the ability and skills I have (or not). If the bike takes over a lot of these abilities and skills where's the fun.....
@paulg24473 жыл бұрын
Only if you want it to, turn it off....
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
Cool. That is why we have all sort of bike, roadsters, choppers, trails ... But if you ever get your ass one of these, you'll be surprised at it's abilities to be fun.
@louteix99813 жыл бұрын
WOW,....just got to convence my bank!
@tylernelson79953 жыл бұрын
Most of this is optional. And even if your bike does have cruise, you don't have to use it.. I've never seen so much whining in a comment section. 😂😂
@Glockcustom3 жыл бұрын
R1250RT, best new bike of 2021 and my next bike.
@lambo28173 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can get the 10” tft retro fitted to the current 1250gs getting rid of the nav system? Any thoughts?
@joshrandall52973 жыл бұрын
Don't bet on it. BMW wants you to buy a new model.
@Nialsy9993 жыл бұрын
Any gossip on a possible new BMW S1000 naked?. Might fancy a change from my 1290 SDR next year. Kawasaki gets good reviews but it's quite ugly, hated the Mt 10 and Ducati is just silly money ,plus I don't think I would buy another Ducati. My old Diavel was rather problematic.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f3 жыл бұрын
The S1000R is due, isn't it. That and the K1600 are the last to get the update treatment this time around.
@rottieman3473 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my old R1200RT thanks. More electronics, more to go wrong. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. For a colour scheme on a new car, expect to pay £600. Why over £1000 for less than an 1/10th of the surface area of most cars. Another BMW (Bring More Wallets)
@f.w.vonjunzt33493 жыл бұрын
Curious when I will see the first cop on the new Version.
@harvestofsoulsforchrist12583 жыл бұрын
How can I buy one? I am in Nigeria
@InfusedBiker3 жыл бұрын
Weight reduction would have been much better!! And what about giving it a reverse gear just for those awkward manoeuvres that sometimes bikers get into.
@davidsaunders11253 жыл бұрын
I believe it does have reverse gear. Operated with the starter motor. I am pretty sure I have seen a review mentioning it.
@bmwrider-nl8in3 жыл бұрын
Technology has finally run-a-muck adaptive cruise is not necessary
@chetlovesamerica67833 жыл бұрын
I sold my 2014 rt ,,very comfortable, loaded,radar det,,abs,traction control,cornering traction SCARED the sheet out of me while making a high speed pass thru a mild curve .The suspension &traction control,went crazy and made my rear end loose and now,not into high tech on ANY BIKE .I now ride a new roadking STANDARD 107 just abs. ,,needs nothing.i m looking at the new r18 ,,,I'm a BMW boxer engine guy ♡
@MajorHazzard3 жыл бұрын
There's no doubt- its a great bike, but for me, IMHO for myself only, its too big, too heavy, too expensive, astronomical service costs and needlessly electronically complicated. Yes to traction control, ABS, basic cruise control , for me there are other bikes that do the job at a far less price. and- I own a BMW!. , albeit not an RT.
@keithrobinson57523 жыл бұрын
Lots of nice toys , but best git rid-off before the warranty runs out or you will be breaking the bank when you HAVE TO take to the BMW dealer to fix any of them.
@robbikebob3 жыл бұрын
It looks comfortable, no doubt about that, but it's a lot of money to spend on a bike, and way too heavy for me to be happy with. I never thought I'd hear myself say this but if I wanted a touring bike I'd buy a superscooter like a Burgman. It's basically a 90mph armchair with no gears and loads of storage. Bikes are getting way too much tech. If I was doing loads of motorway miles, cruise control would be a plus, but you should be concentrating 100% on the road and I fear dynamic could make some concentrate less than they should. I'd never trust it either for that one time it might not 'see' the back end of a lorry. Even the best technology sometimes has brain farts!
@Youtuberngajelas3 жыл бұрын
Test it on india trafic
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
So ? I use it 20000 km a year around Paris, and it's pretty savage conditions. The bike does wonder.
@Trevor_Austin3 жыл бұрын
The system no top end motorcycle manufacturer has ever offered is an auto-wallet replenisher. Supply one of those and I’ll have one.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f3 жыл бұрын
The display needs to be better integrated into the dash.
@philiplee76043 жыл бұрын
Far too much electronically to go badly wrong, just look at the avalanche of recalls on electronic modules in European cars over the past 3 years, Ducati, has also been a ‘ problem child’ with several serious electronic recalls over the last couple of years. I like to be in TOTAL control of my bike as my inputs are based on decades of experience and I’m still here today!
@willdavids70753 жыл бұрын
Like the looks of it. Looking kinda thicc for a sport touring bike 😂
@larrys.39923 жыл бұрын
Don't care for the high tech bs. Maybe abs but forget the rest.
@robbikebob3 жыл бұрын
Never even had a bike with ABS, in fact, the technology on my bikes hasn't even got beyond carbs to the wonder that is fuel injection yet! My only engine warning light is a red one marked 'oil'! 😅
@user-cx2bk6pm2f3 жыл бұрын
Try it, you'll love it! I'm totally spoiled now.
@jeffames62923 жыл бұрын
Love the bike but why oh why did they drop the red colour!
@davidsaunders11253 жыл бұрын
Totslly agree!
@warnom3 жыл бұрын
I would.
@jean-marcknight88163 жыл бұрын
The R has the same engine yes, but just add crappy wheather and rethink. Same old, the best bike is the one that fit your purpose and your wallet.
@hakankillberg60433 жыл бұрын
Lovely bike but to pricy. Waiting for the review of the Triumph 900 GT Pro but it has to come with other colors just like that green one on the Rally Pro. Come on Triumph put that color also on the GT Pro and im home
@ianward32783 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, BMW lost its way when the original RS was dropped, still one of the nicest bikes ever, these new ones look Japanese, Not German.the RS was a bike that from year to year you knew what you bought., I still look for them
@roadglide3 жыл бұрын
If safety is so important, and it is, then why doesn’t BMW put backlit handlebar switches for night riding. And the R1250 GS/GSA needs a real and horn like their K1600 series bikes and handlebar switch lighting. But the colors and design they got that in spades. I like use of tech in concept just have to see how invasive it becomes with a test ride. Motorcycling must be organic and free. Safety is paramount.
@ski34353 жыл бұрын
There is NO WAY I want adaptive cruise control on my bike! I want to be in control of my bike's speed when I'm approaching a slower vehicle. I want to determine when to disengage my standard cruise control. I don't want the bike to put my brakes on for me! How dangerous is that? I have adaptive cruise control on my car. It inevitably activates my brakes too early no matter which mode is selected. Plus on a four lane highway, when going around a left hand bend in the road, if I am in the left lane overtaking a slower vehicle in the right lane, it sometimes thinks the slower vehicle is coming into my lane and will apply my bakes!
@petewebb69523 жыл бұрын
The high tech specifications are secondary. You’ve got to like the actual bike in the first instance. E.g. I had a Honda Civic Sports car with all that cruise technology, but it wasn’t enough to make me keep the car which i replaced with a car more suitable for my needs but lower technology. The same applies to motorcycles. Choose the bike that suits your needs first then get the highest spec you can afford. Having said that, if my aim was to use a bike for lots of two up long distance touring i would choose an RT, if i had the money that is (just because I’ve had an RT in the past and i know what great tourers they are). For local riding around English lanes and softer touring i would choose a lighter, cheaper, bike such as the new Tiger 900 GT Pro, or the Yamaha Tracer 900, which still have high spec technology.
@MightyMick883 жыл бұрын
All the help you can get on a bike has to be a good thing having said that you can't educate an idiot. That's a fact.
@TheTripleDubya3 жыл бұрын
A bike that might brake suddenly when not expected !?! Ahh yeah, no thanks. My 5 series would see the odd ghost and brake suddenly without warning. It was a great system but on a bike !!! Newer systems are better, especially those that utilize cameras over radar, as from my experience so far they have less false alarms. Each to their own but for me that cruise is one step too far for a bike.
@letitrest46623 жыл бұрын
A BMW.... the initial cost, is just the first taste of having your wallet vacated.
@dennism19193 жыл бұрын
I do like this new RT. Of course the updated cockpit is super nice. But waaaay too much tech for me. And I will pass on the RADAR. I'm sure it works well. I simply do not want it. I would go with something a bit more basic if I could, but the way these dealers bring their bikes in around here, you cannot find one with more basic accoutrements. And I can only imagine what this new RT will cost. They have been trying to push this thing up near 30 Grand, and I think they might get there with this bike. Then there is the maintenance. And BMW's are just too sketchy for me. Reliability is known to be crap. Doesn't matter, I can't afford one anyway. But I like it. Honestly, what I would really go for is the S1000 RR engine in the R1250 RS chassis. With a bigger fuel tank. I'm not a huge fan of the boxer engine and The XR just doesn't quite do it for me, either. Ah hell, I'll just keep my Trophy SE. She still rocks, looks like new and she's paid for. Cheers!
@asdfasdffdcd3 жыл бұрын
looks like suzuki's GW250
@vanislerider73113 жыл бұрын
I'd like the extra money. Too many nice bikes out there for far less and far less to have serviced. For those reasons I will not purchase a BMW.