Cross brand pairing = BIG source of confusion for everyone. Made this to help out on that....regardless what brand you own just keep this in mind! If it has "universal intercom", this is how it's doing it.
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@SierraScout24 жыл бұрын
As someone in the market and trying to learn how all this stuff works, thank you. You’ve given me an answer to the question that was holding me back.
@MotoChooch3 жыл бұрын
This is THE best video on the subject I have ever seen and explains so much! Thank you!!!
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!!
@Igizeh5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video! Now I understand why it failed to pair my Packtalk with Sena all the time!
@dennisnicholson27294 жыл бұрын
That was such a surprise and so helpful. I now know why on my last 2 bike lessons I failed to pair Senna with my Interphone. Looking forward to trying again next time.
@damansarajaya887 ай бұрын
5 years later and still making a difference. We had an issue this morning trying to connect Cardo to Wayxin intercoms. Couldn’t figure it out and this video helps a lot. Will try when we next ride. Thanks for this tip
@alejandrodominguez87323 ай бұрын
Man, thank YOU! I spent a couple of hours trying to figure it out but had both in Universal Pairing; followed your advice and bam! All works now. I can now enjoy intercom when riding with my daughter =)
@ScifoM3 жыл бұрын
I really wish I seen this BEFORE struggling to pair my Cardo with my friends Sena 😕 Great Vid! 👍
@rookielicence12125 жыл бұрын
Great video, I appreciate the explanation of cross brands. As I’m getting a Cardo Slim but my 2 friends have senas
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So until your friends see the benefits of DMC Mesh (😊) it will be one of them who uses Universal Pairing Mode to “hack into”/pair to one of your Mobile Phone Pairing slots. Enjoy!
@StupidTeenageVideos4 жыл бұрын
The real take away from this is, friends don’t let friends buy non cardo units.
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
😂👏
@LIFEINSPEED3 ай бұрын
The only guy on KZfaq with a brain Thank you!
@mimcquee03112 жыл бұрын
Although you did not cover my brand, your video helped me figure out Fodsports MS1 pro to Sena 20S.... Thank you
@darlenehemstreet8234 жыл бұрын
This video solved my communication issue using 2 Sena and 2 Cardo devices. Thank you
@arielban14 жыл бұрын
Hello Darlene, how is this working for you? Two of my friends have Sena and I have bold? Wondering if I should just buy a Sens Evo to pair up with the two
@stevewest1315 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I have to say I didn't know, or understand, why pairing different brands was so hit and miss..... I do now, thanks.
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
Steve West Thanks for the feedback!
@ChosenBlood15 жыл бұрын
Jezus this needs to get more views!
@Magicinstalls2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done a lot of experimenting with cross pairing brands. I’ve concluded that Bluetooth it’s just a crappy technology and produces static every time it’s used. I do not recommend cross pairing brands only mesh between the same brands. What’s further hindering is a phone connection pairing is only meant to go between the phone and the headset which is usually around 2 feet away from each other. Now you’ve taken that headset and put it on another rider a quarter-mile away and for sure is going to get static and drop out. When you introduce a Bluetooth headset into a clean connection mesh system, you cause static for everybody. Not cool. Cross pairing is a waste of time just get the same brand units and mash them together
@jongavilamusic3064 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. It's crappy idea to connect with other brand. Big waste of time. For sure, this guy doesn't even experience what he is saying. It only tells us things about connecting to other brand but doesn't really experience it himself.
@jag1963 Жыл бұрын
I pair with my cheap Lexin to a cardo and we can be a hundred yards or more than 5 vehicles apart and hear each other clear as a bell.
@user-of9mh5ov6d11 ай бұрын
@@jag1963- I've found my Packtalk Bold works really well with some of the cheap intercoms and I too can achieve some decent distance and still be able to hear clearly. I really rate the Packtalks even in Bluetooth mode.
@graemeshaw97164 жыл бұрын
Very, very well explained. Thank you.
@hallstuart66045 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Thank you so much! It’s so difficult to find a video that explains this so well. Thank you sir.
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
Hall Stuart Right on, thanks!! Glad it was useful 👍
@ReferenceFidelityComponents Жыл бұрын
Problem is range. As with all bluetooth phone pairing, range may be less than 30m.
@jackstrawfromwitchita59782 жыл бұрын
thanks for this much needed video and using comon terms to explain it, we have been trying to include our friend for the last year but the quick start guides dont explain this very well.
@IEVLV85 жыл бұрын
this is why all brands should be regulated to use the same signal system, DMC should be cross platform while still keep the bt link to you individual phone linked
@ToddBryantsr4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean like getting the government involved?
@khaccanhle19304 жыл бұрын
"regulation" is not necessary. Almost all electronics use USB system. Not because of any regulation, but because of the flexibility of the technology and from consumer demand. Regulation is an intellectually lazy option that usually freezes technology on a device that no one eventually wants.
@swatz224 жыл бұрын
Great description on this! Just got my packtalk slim and I'm new to these helmet headsets and i have a friend that has sena but i was really sold on the packtalk slim and really wanted to get something i wanted and not something i didnt want and i have another friend who's also looking to getting his soon and idk if hes going sena or cardo (most likely cardo) but connecting with 1 another due to different brands was something i was afraid of but this video helped out alot with all the detailed information and answered my questions I was getting ready to ask lol
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
Awesome and thanks for the comment @Hector Roman !
@chadwicoff6378 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy ..maybe they have something better for the new systems but I have these older ones. 2 sena expand 2.0 sena10 and packtalk bold. After some hours and frustration.... I've been able to get them all working 2 times but it was a miracle both times. Thanks for this video. I believe I will delete all pairings and connect all the sena via intercom..then add the packtalk via its Bluetooth. 🤞 . High concern with messing it all up again but I will report back.
@chadwicoff6378 Жыл бұрын
Got it. Thanks ! Just as stated .
@AndreasOtte Жыл бұрын
Highly appreciated introduction and explanation!
@DatBikerDude3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, except the Chinese vnetphone v8 bridges between two different brands. So you can have a sense, v8, cardo and they'll all be in a conference
@fernandotiani69253 жыл бұрын
Hello MotoGeek, Greetings!! I am in a group and we have 01 Packtalk Bold (this will be me on Bluetooth mode) 04 Cardo Freecom4 + 01 Senna 20S + 02 V6. When we connect all cardo's only, we have no problem, but when we try to get all brands connected than we have a problem. Perhaps would you help us to find the proper way to get all these different brands together listening/talking? we could never get more than 4 connected I appreciate your videos, very helpful !!!
@coryperemsky3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. All the manuals make it seem like you put both devices into universal pairing, nowhere does it mention that one has to connect like it would a phone... I have a sena and my friend has a cardo, we struggled to figured it out but this video solved it. One thing though I noticed is that it only works when the sena goes into universal pairing mode and the cardo until is connected via phone pairing, they will connect if the cardo does universal pairing and the sena connects via phone mode but neither of us can hear or talk to each other. Just have to make sure the sena is the one in universal pairing. Now to try and see if I can add my other friend with a senna to the group at the same time... Manual says you can but it is not very clear.
@artiecisneros46912 жыл бұрын
Great and simple explanation even I am able to understand, thank you.
@fanatic17634 жыл бұрын
Very informative! My friends have some CellularLine (italian brand) intercoms but i really want a cardo. I still can't figure out if those intercoms support the universal pairing but at least i know there is a way
@avramlubliner-walters58673 жыл бұрын
Off all riders like to listen to music through their phones while they ride, does the rider who is in Bluetooth mode lose the option to listen to their music?
@wernerft Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot.. you ve shown it perfect. and at last switch the inertc. button.. thats why it does nt work here. now it fits.
@streetrider115 жыл бұрын
All my friends got senas but I want a cardo. Doesn't sound like it would work out very fell for group rides tho. Maybe I'll just get the solo cardo one and stick with hand signals and yelling at stop lights
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
lol! Convince those cats to go with Cardo's DMC Mesh and they'll be able to talk without spending an hour in the parking lot getting paired-up every time!!! 😎
@anselmodaosta25183 жыл бұрын
very helpful video! i have a packtalk slim and my girlfriend a sena 3s plus, i'm going mad to paring them... but if i connect as a phone sena to cardo and make the same procedure viceversa, will i be able to start the conversation not only from cardo to sena but also from sena to cardo? thank you!
@VaBraAnton2 жыл бұрын
So me and my friend has a brand called Interphone. This has Bluetooth, but not mesh capability. 1. How could we both talk to a small group of Sena users? 2. And how could we add in a cardo user or two? Should have bought the same brand yes, but now this is what we've got :P
@MathieuTechMoto2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice and clear explanation
@MotoGeekFreak2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cartmen5014 жыл бұрын
Great video, wish i had seen then while i was attempting to pair comms between my brother and I. had a questions though which i have not see anything out yet for it. Firmware now allows sena's to multitask however after pairing with each other i can't seem to get the multitasking to work on either systems. I have a Cardo packtalk slim and my brother has the Sena SRL.
@tobymansourian3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation easy, well done and thank you. Could you recommend a bluetooth remote control for Cardo Packtalk please? Many thanks 😊
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Only bluetooth remote control I'm aware of for the Packtalk is the "Cardo Connect" mobile app. Check it out if you haven't already...it acts as a full-fledged remote control of the headset and actually works well.
@tjrunlimited4 жыл бұрын
Great video and discussion that follows. Here’s my question. Three riders, each with a different unit. One is a new Top of the line Sena, one is a cheap but otherwise fine Lexin BF4-FM, and the third is a late model Cardo PacTalk. If at all possible, what is the sequence to connect all three for communications while riding. Thanks.
@Ladosligese Жыл бұрын
just use Discord .. or conference call via Phone .. and done you wont have the low range req
@TremourSphereMotovlogs4 жыл бұрын
me and my lass have this setup and we both find the quality pretty bad and very quiet too.. would it be louder and better if we both had bluetooth with a cardo unit?
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Cardo-to-Cardo is DEFINITELY a better experience than Cardo-to-Non-Cardo regarding intercom quality. For sure.
@andreleclair4921 Жыл бұрын
Hi, i have paired my packtalk slim to a cheap Bluetooth set. But we cant hear each other...seems like we're paired and thats all....
@tyty101696 Жыл бұрын
You Sir are a KING
@priyangh2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I tried to pair BMW communication system with Sena SC2 (for Schuberth C5) did not work. BMW is not visible to Sena. Any thoughts? Thanks
@doingstuffwiththecards44462 ай бұрын
Trying to do cardo freecom 4+ to a Lexin b4fm. I go to cardo gateway pairing and then mobile pairing on the Lexin and can’t get them to pair. Do I need to turn Bluetooth off or the cardo app off or stop cell connection to cardo? I am struggling….
@earlebird4262 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you. You said that DMC mode is far superior. I'm assuming you mean superior to Bluetooth intercom. What is your opinion of DMC mode vs Sena open mesh? Do you have a video on that?
@MrEd60664 жыл бұрын
So I can't listen to music on my cardo AND be in comunication with the SENA because the Sena is the 2nd phone audio source.And the Sena can't listen to music for the same reason. Is that right?
@edwardishaq4 жыл бұрын
Thats my understanding too, but would love to hear a confirmation from @motogeek
@senatechnologies4 жыл бұрын
Hi. If the Sena headset supports the Audio Multitasking or Audio Overlay feature then that will allow someone to be talking over the intercom with a non-Sena headset and listen to music at the same time.
@vincentcaballes50503 жыл бұрын
Hi sir. In my understanding, if you have 5 cardo and 5 other non cardo, they can still talk simultaneously together to each other, right? For this to work, we need each of the cardo to connect to each of non cardo via BT mode, bring those non cardo into the table and simultaneous talking will be obtained. Is that correct? We came from Cardo but sold it to buy a cheaper intercom. Our other friends still use cardo and we wanted to know if we can still talk simultaneously even if we use a non cardo device.
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Yes you nailed it, that is exactly correct 👍
@freshconnekt5 жыл бұрын
Cell phone pairing uses BT so would that not pair with the restrictions of BT. So I can see it working as long as you stay in the limited range of BT?
@2Ronin6664 жыл бұрын
1.thanks for the video,great job. 2. If it’s a pack talk bold & a sena 20,paired like that, what happens next time they see each other? Same process? Thanks
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
1. Right on, thank you! 2. Theoretically, and if neither of you have paired to someone/something else that would have taken that same "pairing slot', then you would already be paired and set to go next time you see each other. However, because Universal Pairing from any brand will rob the mobile phone pairing slot of one of the headsets, most people will end up pairing their Actual mobile phone back to their headset after the ride, in which case blowing out the pairing to you and you'll have to use this same pairing process next time you meetup. Hope that makes sense.
@2Ronin6664 жыл бұрын
MotoGeek Freak thanks for the reply! Follow up: cardo has 2 slots right, but so does the 20S? So shouldn’t they be able to work w the phones fine and then pair back up?
@tonygill6734 Жыл бұрын
Hey, am trying to pair a blue tooth push to talk button, dongle attached to my walkie talkie (yaesu FT-4x) to a Sena SPH10H-FM headset. When I push the PTT the radio connects but the audio doesn’t transmit. Any ideas?
@HumanStateOfEmergency4 жыл бұрын
Ok so if four of my friends have Sena 20s I'll be able to join them with my cardo bold as long as one of them pairs with me through universal mode?
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's correct. If one of them goes to "Universal Pairing Mode", then you would HAVE to go to "Mobile Phone Pairing Mode" (because that's how universal pairings work) and that'll work. All 5 of you should be able to talk once the intercoms are opened up.
@HumanStateOfEmergency4 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak nice thanks for the quick reply I'm gonna buy the Cardo instead
@earlebird4262 Жыл бұрын
What is the range like when Sena is paired to cardio?
@jasonfeazel38063 жыл бұрын
Great video super helpful thanks so much 😁
@brucesteele2235 жыл бұрын
Paired my Packtalk with Sena 10S as per your video but pairing dropped out after 20 secs. Only kept pairing alive by pressing mobile phone button on the Sena. Same thing happens with a Sena 10U in a shoei gt-air helmet. Any ideas why?
@VlcAlexx Жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained, thanks!
@demonlunk74922 жыл бұрын
I know this video is a bit old, but I'm having issues connecting my freecom 4x to my friends sena.. she put her sena in universal pairing mode, I put mine in phone 2 pairing mode, but nothing happened. They both kept searching.. Thoughts?
@papajulietromeo-650 Жыл бұрын
Same problem with a Scorpion Exo-Com (made by uclear) and a Sena 30k. Scorpion will pair to any mobile device or PC, Sena will pair to any Headset, but they just won‘t connect to each other.
@dp4racing Жыл бұрын
My wife has a bold. Wants to ride with a Sena equipped group. I probably won’t be there to help. I plan on teaching her to put the Cardo in phone pairing mode & have someone with a Sena 50 pair with her & bridge her to the group. Can you tell me how to put the Sena into the correct pairing mode? I want to hand the instructions to her so it gets done right. I’m thinking the Sena owner probably won’t know how.
@richstewart1 Жыл бұрын
Are you saying one rider has to give up their cell phone in cross brand pairing? So one rider can't listen to music and such from his cell phone? Can you use Bluetooth to communicate?
@MrMuhdhaiqal11212 жыл бұрын
Awesome video explanatiom! Just a question, what if there's 3 different brands of intercoms? Can all 3 be paired together?
@davidserretti1794 Жыл бұрын
Its exactly he said on video... I think nope...
@adriantabor2079Ай бұрын
Hi my packtalk is paired with a Nolan ? How do I add a packtalk bold
@georgemeads80192 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Between the two communication devices, which one do you prefer and why? Thank you for your time.
@ELPECEE4 жыл бұрын
I have a PackTalk and all my friends have Sena. I know how to pair them (I'm usually the one in Universal Pairing Mode because around these parts Sena users don't know how to operate their device, and I know how to set a Sena to phone pairing mode). The problem is, once paired, the mic stays hot like you are in a phone call, and doesn't drop unless I disconnect the "call". But then I have to push the button again to open the channel again. No too handy. This hot mic issue may be caused by wind noise or engine noise causing the sena mic to vox open, I'm not sure. Do you have any idea what the problem is and if it's fixable?
@coreydouglas15124 жыл бұрын
I cant get a ejeas v6 to pare to a cardo. Any help would be appreciated.
@rekhachauhan41013 жыл бұрын
I would like to know about this to.. I have a V6 and my friend has a Cardo g9
@mrhienlq9 ай бұрын
I can not pair my cardo in universal intercom with the V6 pro in mobile mode.
@rickiekm5 жыл бұрын
So, if the Sena is connected to the packtalk as a phone, then does that mean that the Sena can not be connected to their own phone at the same time. I am thinking that the Sena owner would have to disconnect their phone before this is tried. by the way, I love your videos...
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes for the most part you nailed it. However, if the Sena you are "hacking into" (universally pairing with) has the ability to pair with 2 mobile phones, then that person (the sena user) COULD pair to their actual phone as well. Example: "Mobile phone pairing 1" would be taken by your Packtalk, and "Mobile phone pairing 2" would be his ACTUAL phone. Your Packtalk will be treating the relationship with the Sena as a true intercom connection, and the Sena would be treating the relationship as a "mobile phone" connection. Hope that makes sense and answers the question!
2 жыл бұрын
Connects to my BT-S2 intercom device and starts a functioning audio connection, but after maybe one second the cardo shuts down and must be restarted manually. Any solution for this problem?
@alexanderking3971 Жыл бұрын
I still can't figure out how to connect my sena 10c evo to a group of cardos...
@nj40402 жыл бұрын
We even managed to connect cardo to cheap chinese tcom-sc somehow, but only for few times.
@ferrarihodnett2 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway of listening to music too when both cardo and sena are working together
@aminrafiq1324 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you.
@rosmotovlog13574 жыл бұрын
can you help me on how to connect a BT-S2/S3 to a Palcktalk slim? I have tried all the options you mentioned as well as the instructions on the cardo manual and no success. They achieve connection for 1 second and then the Cardo shuts off suddenly... every time. Do you know what the deal is?
@KevinJones-ut6tg Жыл бұрын
My bother has a Paltalk Bold. Is there a way i can pair my phone or perhaps just the Bluetooth earbuds to his system?
@algee82284 жыл бұрын
Tried connecting Packtalk (not Bold) with Sena SMH10 with Universal (Bluetooth). They connect fine, but at any more than about 50' apart I lose 1/2 the connection...I can hear the Packtalk from the Sena, but the Packtalk can't hear the Sena. It sucks. I guess range is the issue? Am I doing something wrong?
@krishkrithivasan9592 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you!
@MotoGeekFreak2 жыл бұрын
Right on thanks!
@paulelkouss5 жыл бұрын
Very illuminating!
@rawrchicken0084 жыл бұрын
Once paired, Sena and scala, could you click the button for switching to music and back? Or does it only work for Comms and once pressed it cancelles?
@jcabuan2 жыл бұрын
If your “hacking” the other unit by thinking that’s it’s connected to a Bluetooth device, how far can the range possibly be? I can imagine if it was a rider and a passenger, it wouldn’t be a problem.
@MotoGeekFreak2 жыл бұрын
In my experience, any time you have one brand pairing to a different brand the range is DEFINITELY pretty tight. You have one side treating it like a phone (super short range) and the other treating it like an intercom (longer range), and where they meet ends up pretty short range.
@BillReitz5 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks.
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don’t think it’s ever been made clear before by the manufacturers and almost everyone I run into struggles with this aspect of their comm setup, so hopefully this helps out and they come across it at some point! Lol
@BillReitz5 жыл бұрын
Would you mind if I share your video with the members of my Club the South Coast BMW Riders Club ? We motel / camp monthly plus day rides and this would help keep up together. I await your answer before I do anything.
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
Bill Reitz Thanks for asking and yes, absolutely. Most of my vids are on Packtalk (it’s the best d@mn intercom for motorcyclists by far) but I made this one to help out the riding community in general because it’s a real issue. So yes, absolutely!
@HugoHamaoui4 жыл бұрын
HI MototGeek, Thanks for all the valuable information, it is great!!! Quick question when pairing with my friend who rides with the GT-Air II specific SRL 2 Bluetooth Communication System by Sena We pair great, but if we are just maybe 500 feet it's start to disconnect, is there a way to get that miles going or not really!? Thanks again!
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
@Hugo Hamaoui Thanks!! Unfortunately, anytime you're pairing one brand to a different brand, the intercom range REALLY takes a hit. The only real way to solve the range-issue when dealing with different brands is to call each other through your phones...but then of course you need to be within service range. Sorry to not be more helpful but hope it helps!
@HugoHamaoui4 жыл бұрын
MotoGeek Freak that’s perfect thanks 🙏🏻 !!!:)
@MotoMasterAccessories2 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak we can also try a discord server option...
@YBGuy3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation MotoGeek!
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Right on, thanks!
@Fee.13 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak so the “mesh” headsets can only do the mesh deal with coms from the same brand ?
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
@@Fee.1 Yeah mesh-to-mesh can only be done within the same brand. BUT, say we had 2 Packalks connected in DMC mesh and 1 Sena 30k (sena mesh capable headset)....we could get all 3 headsets talking, but the relationship between the Packtalk and the 30k would be a Bluetooth connection, not mesh. Hope that makes sense!
@Fee.13 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak yep makes sense thanks, just ridiculous it’s implemented that say when Theresa no technical reason or excuse for not making them compatible, one or both companies have decided to take that route for max profits (which i imagine is backfiring) and that’s not cool
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
@@Fee.1 I feel you on that!!
@fzmxtg3 жыл бұрын
We tried this with my friends Senna, but this seemed to lose its connection to my cell phone and connected as a headset to his, so now I could chat to hi but now was unable to hear any music on my phone. Should this have been done following the steps for adding a 2nd cell phone ?
@ducatininja38663 жыл бұрын
So i tried this method and yes it connected, but after about 30seconds the 2 units disconnected. Any idea why?
@MegaHorse73 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to pair a sena1 (Schubert helmet) to a freedconn t max unit, can you advise, I have both in pair mode but I can't get them to pair?
@raybrdjr3 жыл бұрын
Man, i tried pairing my sena 20s evi with a buddys cardo following this and couldnt get it. I then went to cycle gear and they told me to keep holding that back button longer to get to bluetooth. Is that right?
@LeadingEdgeFitness14 ай бұрын
So are you saying that if I connect intercom between one unit to say, a Sena, the first unit can have intercom and a phone connnection for music, but the Sena can have intercom only - no connection to a phone for music?
@MotoGeekFreak4 ай бұрын
As described in this video, yes. BUT, there's been an update from Cardo since I made this, and that update allows the Cardo and Sena to pair together using their standard Bluetooth Intercom Pairing on both sides! If the Sena has BT v4.1 or higher, then disregard this video and pair them together using normal intercom pairing on both sides (Cardo and Sena). If it's an older Sena, or some other brand, then this video is the way you need to do it. Hope that helps!
@LeadingEdgeFitness14 ай бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak Thanks so much for taking time to reply. I am having no luck. I am trying to connect a Fodsports M1S pro to a phone, a Sena SMH 5 to a phone, and then the two to intercom. The Fodsports is ok. But once intercom is connected the Sena will not connect to a phone, and cannot intiate an intercom call. Videos keep saying press the jog dial - no matter what length of time I press the jog dial for, the Sena just goes in to a continual double beeping.
@michalispolyzos13 күн бұрын
great video! thanks man
@abrahamgalloway51635 жыл бұрын
so i successfully paired and rode with a buddy using his senna 10s(although there were some major issues), when i have a non cardo unit paried do you lose the ability to listen to music? of course we firgured out later as well that his 10s had vox turned off so it was a constant on mic which drove me nuts
@ernestocavazos45075 жыл бұрын
Hello, very good video, my family have 3 Cardo pack talk bold and we met with 4 people who have the Seine 20S evo Harley Davidson, we can all put them pair or just a few and what would be the solution to communicate all? Thanks in advance
@ddrand23 жыл бұрын
AWESOME Video!!! I wish we would have watched it first before banging our heads against the wall trying to figure it out. I have (2) questions, My Cardo (Universal intercom pairing mode) is paired to a Sena(Phone pairing mode) as explained in your video. But (1) the Sena can't use it's intercom feature. It can only call me just like they would call for a pizza. Is that right? Hence the "Phone pairing mode". And (2) Even though we are connected. When my Cardo intercom connects to talk to the Sena, the call drops within seconds of the connect. Can this be fixed?
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! (1) That's correct. When paired as you described, the Sena "thinks" it's paired to an actual phone, hence they would have to tap the mobile button in the back to start/end intercom with you. If it was paired the opposite way - Sena (universal pairing mode) to Cardo (mobile phone pairing mode) - then it would be the other way around, the Sena would use the Intercom wheel to activate/deactivate intercom, and the Cardo would have to tap the Mobile button to start/end an intercom session. (2) I've had this happen as well. Try doing a master reset on the Sena and attempt again. No idea why, but most of the time that works out the issue. Hope that all makes sense and helps out a bit!
@thepesener3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a question, I am using 50s, my friend is listening to music in the background during a conversation with the 20s intercom. I 50s music is cut off.
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Is your friend using a Cardo or is this all Sena involved?
@thepesener3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak my friend sena 20s i sena50s
@videobandit4 жыл бұрын
My Cordo Freecom 2+ connected to the Sena 20S via phone bluetooth connection as you described. If I push the intercom button on the Freecom 2+ it opens a intercom connection with the Sena. BUT how do you initiate an intercom call from the Sena ? Pushing the phone button or the intercom button does nothing.
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
Ok cool, if you've got the two of them connected and talking that means you paired them up right (good job). In your case, to open up the intercom from the Sena you must use the phone button (don't even bother with the sena's intercom button, won't happen)...BUT, as you said, that's not working. I hate to say this but do a Master Reset on the Sena 20s, pair them up again the exact same way you did the first time, and that should fix it (you should then be able to initiate the intercom from the sena as well by pushing the sena's phone button once). Hope that helps!
@Duniamotorcom4 жыл бұрын
We sell Sena's, great info.
@drewtucker69233 жыл бұрын
Do I understand you correctly, if two bikers are communicating successfully with bluetooth intercom one rider will not be able to use his cellphone with it?
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
If you have two people with different brands communicating successfully via bluetooth, they yes, one of them will not be able to use his cellpone during that intercom session because their headset already thinks it's on a active phone call (as a result of the way it is paired). If their headset can only pair to 1 mobile phone, then they won't be able to pair to a "real phone" at all. If their headset can pair with 2 mobile phones (most modern headsets) then yes they could have their "real phone" paired as well, but would not receive anything from it while talking to the other headset. Hope that makes sense!
@cameronb19074 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Perfect.
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@susierebelryder4924 жыл бұрын
Problem is the one headset that has to give up a paired device. Many pair to a phone and GPS or CB bluetooth device. If so how to pair to another headset? Shouldn't have to give up a pairing.
@MotoGeekFreak4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree but yes unfortunately that's exactly right. If you're going to pair 2 headsets together that are different brands, then ONE of them will be giving up a "paired device" (like phone, GPS, etc.). Since conception, this is how every brand has obtained "Universal Intercom"........one goes into "Universal Pairing Mode" (and that one doesn't have to give up a device pairing) and the other goes to "Mobile Phone Pairing" because it's being tricked into thinking that it's pairing up to a phone. Hopefully that will eventually change!
@mzgskater3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to pair a Bluetooth-only Device like the Cardo Freecom 4 to another Cardo and a device of another brand at the same time and have a 3-way-communication? Everytime a try that arrangement, I can only talk to one of the two other Devices at the same time.
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Yes you should be able to do that and have all 3 talk at the same time. Here's the way it should look: Cardo-to-Non-Cardo - Put the Cardo into Cardo Gateway/Universal Intercom pairing mode. Put the non-Cardo into Mobile Phone pairing mode. Once they pair, put the non-Cardo aside. It will be a single tab on the Cardo's Intercom button to open/close the intercom with this unit THEN Cardo-to-Cardo - Pair the two Cardo's together on their "Rider B Pairing" channel. It will be a double tap on the Cardo's Intercom button to open/close the intercom here. SO, to get them all talking, take the one Cardo that's paired to both the non-Cardo and the other Cardo. A single tap of the intercom button should open comms with the non-Cardo, then do a double tap on that same Intercom button to open comms with the other Cardo. At this point all 3 should be open and talking. Sorry for the novel and hope that helps!
@ggggmotovlog2 жыл бұрын
Question. What if I connect my cardo spirit (2 way) to cardo 4x but the 4x is also connected to other 4x. What will I hear on my cardo spirit? Will I hear all other 4x?
@MotoGeekFreak2 жыл бұрын
Yes - you will hear them and they will hear you, will work great 👍
@kristiandaugaard74953 жыл бұрын
I have a cardo packtalk slim and a cardo freecom 1+ for my passenger. However they wont pair when i try this. I have the slim in cardo gateway and the freecom in searching for a mobile device. However they keep flashing and not connecting
@MotoGeekFreak3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Since the packtalk slim and freecom 1+ are both Cardo headsets, you don't want to be using "cardo gateway" pairing mode (that's only for when pairing to a NON-cardo headset). SO, on both units, press and hold the "Intercom" button until you see the LED start flashing red. This will put both of them in the correct pairing mode. Once the LED goes solid red, then returns to a normal/slow blue flash, the units are paired together for intercom. Good luck and hope that helps!
@drewyager40204 жыл бұрын
And you still sit in the driveway trying to get them all to talk. Lol
@skis04472 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@kzmotovlog988 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much this video is very useful for me
@PAPPABIATCH5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation as it is very hard to find his info from either Cardo or Sena. So just to confirm. I want to buy a Cardo Packtalk Bold. One of my friends has a Sena SMH10 and the other a Sena 10S. So for me to communicate with both of them in a group. I would connect to either one via bluetooth, with one of my Sena guys (hacking) treating my Cardo as a Mobile Phone, then my Two friends would connect to each other using their intercom function?
@MotoGeekFreak5 жыл бұрын
@Gran Turismo Arena yes that's right, you nailed it. One of the Sena guys would use Universal Inercom pairing mode, and you would have to use Mobile Phone pairing mode...that would get you two connected. Then the two Sena guys pair with each other using the native Intercom Pairing. All 3 of you would be able to communicate at that point. When the time comes for the guy with the SMH10 (that thing goes pretty far back) to upgrade; should he get a Packtalk as well, that would change everything for the better. The 2 Packtalks would connect in DMC Mesh and you would just Bridge the Sena 10s into your convo. Sorry for the long answer but I think you've got it!
@PAPPABIATCH5 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGeekFreak Thanks very much for your in-depth reply, and for clearing that up for me. I really appreciate it,.