Can you get them in yellow 😁

@@jamesjack6769 no but you can wrap it

Far superior Launch control (LC of the focus is a useless mess) and a far superior transmission. The DSG is just utterly insane.

The problem with this testing is the i30 gear shift is tuned... The focus is adaptive and dependent on how it's been driven 😕

what are you talking about? the I30N is literally a 2019 Model year, Same with the ST. Basically no difference except the I30N DCT is now quicker.

Focus ST need a driver Mod

The automatic slushbox kills the Focus ST's performance. The manual version sprints from 100 to 200 km/h in around 14 seconds whereas the auto does it in around 18 seconds. Above 200 km/h the manual will keep piling on the numbers whereas the auto makes an otherwise excellent car feel gutless. It's a shame Ford didn't bother to develop a proper DCT for the Focus ST, especially one that works unlike the PowerShifts of old...

@@mikerelvas - that is not the issue, the actual gear ratios/final drive ratio are since the final drive is fixed at the transaxle whereas the i30 with its automated manual the final drive shaft can be either tall or short which has massive benefits once speed has gone beyond 80km/h all the way to around 165km/h. Ford does have a DCT that it could use which is "wet clutch" design however Ford made it very clear that torque converter was the only option here for the Focus ST and its the same transmission beefed up top handle more torque (can easily handle 600Nm) so there is lost of room for improvement especially at more higher revs, Ford have clearly tuned the engine for launch and top end while mid range suffers.

@No more words Not sure. Seems strange to me. If you see a i30N dct on a dyno it shows consistently more than factory figures

Sick car pal, congratulations. Did you get it in the new Mean Green?

@@mikerelvas hi cheers yes matey March delivery tho

@@performanceworld02 yeah, all models are delayed due to halted production. Good luck with her when she arrives, absolutely love the new Mk4.5 Focus.

@@mikerelvas cheers dude 🙌🏻👍🏻👌🏼

You still could change your mind and order an i30N

Be the first in the world to get a custom conversion done!

Sure does. It’s a rocket

Gearing in this auto box is pretty bad, it completely kills the power. The manual is about as fast or faster, which says it all really.

Haven't come across this vid or your comment before. Yes indeed the ST does need the M330 why I installed it on my orange fury ST 2020 I bought from new the map later after a fwe miles on the clock. At that time Ford thought they were still going to market the RS so purposefully detuned the potential of the ST. With hindsight a terrible mistake and now effectively you can't buy a new Focus ST edition perhaps 4.5 defo so.

😂😂😂

Spoiler alert - GR wins, no contest

@@relentlesspursuit6894 everyone lnows that the question is how much from a dig and the second is how mich from a pull...

I’m a N fan myself, and I know the GR is an overall better performance car.

@@brandonanderson4117 each to there own

Good shout, that would be a very, very close match!

Performance cars have definitely come a long way in terms of raw performance in the last 10 years or so!

Well yeah as you expect but not over the XR6 Turbo just yet but over the XR8 and the SS (GMH V8) for sure.

@@351tgv - I think you’ll find a large number of XR6 and even the FPV will struggle to get in the low 5’s. A lot of them have shit tyres, worn bushes and transmissions that have past their optimal working efficiency. 6 secs is the average. - to the disappointment of their owners. This is the fundamental basis why the domestic owners have not embraced dragys or Vbox’s - and relied on dynos as a KPI

That's not saying much as it's power and weight. Anything you can think of with a v6 or 8 was much heavier than these vehicles.

What's funny is, the neon srt-4 was that exact same thing, 18 years ago.

Nice buy, Cooper. You’ll love the i30. Yes, we planned to do another roll before the tyre went pop. Sadly an errant screw ended our day early

Pick mine up Thursday - NGS will definitely make a difference

I for 1 wud never say that the i30N is a better car. I felt the DCT is stupid in i30N. Its fast when U go in straight line and the engine has more top end power than the Fords.. But the STs TC auto felt far more like an honest and regular predictable AT than i30Ns. It also felt like it handled long and mid sweepers better than i30N, i30N felt superior at short twists though. Also the manual ST I drove felt like it was going at least a sec faster than i30N Performance despite having less hardware to do so. It also felt like more mature handler than i30N/Performance

@@1989rs500 agree to disagree. Extensively tested both cars and the Focus ST didn’t hold much of a candle to the i30N. Even just the Custom N mode makes a world of difference compared to the Ford. The Automatic in the Focus is also terribly geared, the ratios mean the manual ends up being much quicker past 100kph, and 5th gear is practically two gears in one. Should also mention that the DCT is incredibly intuitive, being able to automatically recognise whether you’re putting around town or driving around on a track, it will change the way it behaves. i30N does practically everything better in my books: • Drivability • Sound • Looks • Acceleration • Comfort • Handling

@@cooper9777 In ur book ok.. But not n my books.. I ve been a hot hatch owner for past 13 years.. gTi and Fiesta St owned. So for me the Ford s more dynamic and more capable car. I do agree the AT Ford is sluggish.. But the manual is ever so slightly better than Hyundai

10 horsepower

@@gusc.7728 exclude

you can do 2 runs in an electric car before it needs a charge.

Wouldn't sound half as good though 😂😂😂

I have a Toyota Crown Athlete 3.5 that has the same engine and transmission as the is350 and it smoke's those i30n easy as and pulls away easily they would be no match my old is350 did 4 seconds flat to 100 kmh videos on my channel

@@lexman8678 What mods did you have?

I had IS350(stock)before and believe me i30N is faster, can't wait for my i30N coming for the next 3 weeks.

There wasn’t a noticeable difference in the 0-100 times Reuben. Track surface and getting the perfect amount of wheel slip play a greater role. We wanted to test NGS in the roll race but sadly the tyre went flat before we got a chance.

Does NGS provide more HP? My understanding is that it does for 20sec, so it should then do a slightly better 1/4mile time? Please do a test using NGS

Hyundai says when using NGS you get a 7 - 10% Performance boost . Better shiftig etc . I asked my dealer because i want to get one myself

@@reubenstrydom2543its a 10HP and 30NM Boost

Good chat though

I let people learn when they're in my N dct :)

sure on the track but in day to day real life situations? Good luck with the maintenance repairs, someone said close to $8,800 due to clutch pack shitting its pants. But yeah don't let that stop you.

@@351tgv The dual-clutch system is a robust, smooth and efficient transmission. If used properly, it should last 10 years without a problem, even with hard driving I have i30 turbo diesl dct,already 225k and not single problem

@@BlueSky-sz9pz - Yeah and if you don't change the fluid and clutch sensor? Big difference with a DCT that is designed for turbo diesel over a performance turbo petrol. DCT are junk regardless if wet or dry, they fail and when they di they are expensive to repair, FACT.

@@351tgv well seems like u know more than porches or Ferrari engineers😉

The auto does not pop in any mode

@@niklaschmid Yeah I figured. Honestly I think it's a bit cheesy anyways. At least the manual st isn't as over the top obnoxious as the i30n. That thing pops like 6 times even at 3000 rpm.

@@cy9nvs A friend drives the ST, myself the i30N. I think both are really good, but I don't like the sound generated by the speakers in the interior of the ST at all. The manual I30N doesn't pop as often as the DCT and if it gets annoying you turn it off in the settings. The interior of the ST looks better, but unfortunately the typical Ford quality...

@@niklaschmid I deactivated the sound symposer with an OBD II Adapter. Personally I liked the interior quality of the ST more. I test drove both but went for the Ford mostly because of the interior. At the end of the day neither is great though.

@@cy9nvs That's an improvement for sure, the real sound is good enough. Unfortunately, I'm not satisfied with Ford, at work we have a few normal Focus station wagons, sometimes with just a few Thousands of kilometers and the coatings on the interior door handles come off, the panels vibrate and the air conditioning often causes problems. But I like both cars by their performance, I don't really care about the interior. Ultimately, I liked the i30 Fastback N better because of the exterior design and a more "raw" feeling. I wanted some fun before it's just bland electric cars.

r003 potenza best tyre

Michelin tyres are junk, completely terrible

@@Madest_Max What? The P4S are the some best non semi-slicks you can get and they last for a VERY long time, compared to sth like Continental (20tkm vs 50tkm!).

@@xXYannuschXx Michelin tyres may last longer due to the way they were made (soft shell, hard filling). However they don't give you as much grip due to that. Continental tyres may not last as long, according to you, but are far more reasonably made. Same with Good Year tyres. Good Year's are bloody brilliant.

@@Madest_Max And yet they have the same lap times according to Tyre Reviews. Why should I buy a tire that destroys itself far quicker, without any performance benefit?

Its more the way the torque bands are tuned the flat power in the i30N allows it to pull for longer and ealier too... the NGS is a secret weapon not sure if he used it though

gear ratio and final drive, the DCT has two different final drive gears which explains why it can pull more speed at higher revs.

@@351tgv what do u mean

The i30N likely won because of the bad gearing on the ST actually. The manual is the same or quicker than the auto, which pretty much says it all.

@@xIcarus227 that's like saying the BMW beat the Benz cause he had more power... whose problem is that? Ford made a product which is not great... Hyundai are making leaps towards VW and Honda the two kings of the affordable warm to hot hatch market

They already have done dragrace on both

Both are great cars but the i30 is superior in a few key areas. You’ll love it. Did you go for an auto or manual?

to further add to the gear ratio and final theory here are the gear ratios and final drive for the i30 N 1st: 3.714 - Final Drive: 3.800 2nd: 2.261 - Final Drive: 3.800 3rd: 2.174 - Final Drive: 2.714 4th: 1.621 - Final Drive: 2.714 5th: 0.927 - Final Drive: 3.800 6th: 0.767 - Final Drive: 3.800 7th: 0.878 - Final Drive: 2.714 8th: 0.698 - Final Drive: 2.714 Info provided by the i30 N specifications PDF Which explains a few things 1: launch appears to be torque limited in 1st and 2nd gear which explains why the Focus with the conventional torque converter gets a better launch, by 3rd through4th gear (so 2 gears) the i30 N has a taller final drive which probably allows full torque (and thus BOOST) which explains why it's catching the Focus down the 400m run and then 5th and 6th it has shorter final drive which allows it to stay in redline even though the gears are over-drive. I can't find the Focus ST gear ratio and final drive ratio but to me this explains why the i30 N has a somewhat sluggish launch but catches the Focus ST with more speed. But of course Motor and Wheels are not what they used to be and this level of fact finding is lacking, insgtead we get "oh look at what I am doing" instead of providing info which backs up what we are seeing.

Or the dream science package to get it to 365 👌🏻

@@performanceworld02 definitely. I believe Mountune also do a 365BHP upgrade also.

Because Motor Mag hates Ford's, they always deliberately drive slower so any other manufacturer is quicker.

@@miguelfigueiredo3910 😂 cry some more

42k for 2021 ford focus ST? No, cheapest is 51k.....

In Australia

Do you own a Focus ST??

Hyundai is a trash car company..

@@RSV4_GOD Lol, Hyundai is living rent free in your mind.

@@JohnLee-db9zt no one lives here do IL without paying the feer

@@RSV4_GOD Not even close anymore mate.

Ora la Hyundai I30N non è più in vendita. Ma normalmente costava circa 6000 euro in più. Con 6000 euro rendi la Focus ST molto migliore

That’s a very big (and I’d have to assume fairly biased) statement, “in every way”. It’s certainly geared to be faster off the line in most scenarios than Focus ST with these upgrades, but in other ways the international motoring press praise the superiority of the Focus. Hyundai have worked hard with (German) engineers to upgrade what is a fairly basic architecture under the i30 for the N, whereas the C2 platform under the Focus is widely considered to be the best (and one of the most expensive) mainstream C-segment platform available, so it’s base dynamics are stronger. I don’t own either but have test driven both and I find the Focus to have a stronger feeling of “solidity” that only cars designed in Europe seem to have - the i30 feels tinnier - that’s purely subjective on my behalf and not “superior in every way” though…

@@sjb2471 lol

Dreaming

@@fale892 yeah nar peanut educate urself before making blurting out embarrassing garbage. Do you want a few lessons in trolling to make urself relevant?

still waiting for that video from 1990

Obviously never drove the i30n, stick with your xr6t

@@335i_Max I’ve driven the ST and the I30N, there’s a reason I’ve got the ST, it’s a better car, the Hyundai is like a cheap copy of it.

@@thatfocusguy far from it, bud

@@Madest_Max I’ve never driven the automatic version of either as auto hot hatches are pointless, manual vs manual the ST is better, the interior is nicer, the seats and infotainment system are crap in the Hyundai. The electronic diff in the ST is better and the ride is better, I’m pretty confident I’d be faster in the ST. Plus it’s got a lot more tuning potential. Mines just been rolling roaded at 334bhp with only a stage 1 map and an induction kit.Best of all it’s a lot cheaper on a PCP deal.

@@thatfocusguy well... I did watch another hot hatch test in which the i30N still had a DCT and the Focus ST a manual and the Focus still lost, as the i30N just has that little bit more punch to it.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong again

@@mickcundall4036 that's because you are a Ford fanboy