Adding CO2 to an Air-to-Air Intercooler! | Engine Masters | MotorTrend

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9 ай бұрын

The guys explore the benefits of an air-to-air intercooler in terms of power and detonation resistance. They also test out external CO2 foggers that keep the intercooler extra cool, presented by AMSOIL.
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@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 9 ай бұрын
What lengths would you go to keep your intercooler extra cool?
@Aheitchoo
@Aheitchoo 9 ай бұрын
Doesent one of the hellcats use the air con system to freeze the intake?
@HaloACE56
@HaloACE56 9 ай бұрын
Water-methanol injection, how has this channel not done this yet?
@kallsop2
@kallsop2 9 ай бұрын
Back in the 80's during the Turbo era of Formula 1 before the start of the race the would put dry ice in the inlets of the side pods in front of the intercooler to cool the charge. Not sure exactly how effective it was but if helped them gain a couple of positions at the start it was a benefit.
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 9 ай бұрын
The lengths of admitting I should not have left youtube.
@999Lucas
@999Lucas 9 ай бұрын
a water sprayer costs about 50-80 bucks if you wire it properly and use a washer tank. Id go with 5 seconds on the relay and the fine mist greenhouse sprayers. Also, chemical intercooling via water injection/methanol injection. Ive seen them just mist it upstream of the throttle body on the cold side of the intercooler.
@carculture3376
@carculture3376 9 ай бұрын
This little trick has been around for years. A cool story from down under. Year: 1989 Location: Bathurst Car: Ford Cosworth Sierra (Turbo 2L inline 4 engine) Peter Brock qualified on pole position after having ridiculous speeds recorded on the two longest straights of the track (mountain and conrod straights). During post qualifying inspection it was found that the onboard fire extinguisher (CO2) was plummed so it pointed at the intercooler, and Brock let it off going down the long straights, giving the engine more power resulting in a quick lap time. The result stood because their was no rule against it.
@ShaunHensley
@ShaunHensley 9 ай бұрын
You’d think it would fail for no longer having fire suppression
@carculture3376
@carculture3376 9 ай бұрын
@ShaunHensley Yes, it was the 80s and things were much more relaxed back then. Playing devil's advocate, I guess you can't make it against the rules to "activate" the fire suppression system.
@BrandonBurns1985
@BrandonBurns1985 9 ай бұрын
Need to continue this. Subaru used liquid sprayers with good results. Also, I wanna see a water to air setup followed by a killer chiller setup using the cars A/C setup.
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 9 ай бұрын
The original ford lightning used its AC to cool the blower charge.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 9 ай бұрын
​@ricepony33 Just being pedantic, but the original Ford Lightning didn't have a blower, but used a mildly spiced-up 351. The supercharged 5.4 truck Brian drove in F&F 1 was the 2nd-gen.
@dylanzrim3635
@dylanzrim3635 9 ай бұрын
@@JETZcorpdid it ticklike my 5.4? 😂
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 9 ай бұрын
My memory is like a trap, nothing enters and nothing leaves ;) @@JETZcorp
@timtamtom920
@timtamtom920 9 ай бұрын
Mighty car mods made a video about this a few years ago
@RuckusGarage
@RuckusGarage 9 ай бұрын
Definitely revisit this using liquid sprayers. It’s not uncommon for folk to run water/washer fluid/vodka/methanol on A2A intercooler sprayers 🤘🏼
@riccocool
@riccocool 9 ай бұрын
T the vodka half to intercooler half to me.
@snapon666
@snapon666 9 ай бұрын
slight fire hazard spraying that stuff in an already hot engine compartment with the potential of over spray hitting the exhaust but could be ducted away to ground or vertically out the hood
@RAPXZibit
@RAPXZibit 9 ай бұрын
@@snapon666 Water provides no fire hazard
@Ko_deZ
@Ko_deZ 9 ай бұрын
It should be something that arrives as a liquid and phase changes to gas. Liquid Nitrogen would be really good, and alcohol of course, but water absorbs a lot of energy even without changing phase to gas and is not explosive.
@snapon666
@snapon666 9 ай бұрын
OG says water washer fluid (alcohol) vodka /methanol @@RAPXZibit
@shawnwhitman5482
@shawnwhitman5482 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know what to expect but I am surprised at the same time. These results are fascinating. As always another great episode.
@tonywhite7753
@tonywhite7753 9 ай бұрын
Ive seen people use solid chunks of C02 stuffed into the intercooler ducting pre send down the 1/4mile. As the C02 changes from solid to gas it can take alot of heat with it. Which is great for an intercooler.
@mikebrown8065
@mikebrown8065 9 ай бұрын
Very good episode! Back to the drawing board for more ideas and research 🤔. Thanks for another great video!!
@-Just_Justin-
@-Just_Justin- 8 ай бұрын
Great information, i was just considering this on my supercharged miata. The intercooler made a massive difference. It goes without saying that plumbing diameter, length, and size of the intercooler can directly result in a measured pressure drop.
@600wheel
@600wheel 9 ай бұрын
Windshield washer fluid is cheaper and easier my Evo came stock with it and it works really good after I’ve been driving and have saturated my intercooler with heat
@KSwapTheWorld69
@KSwapTheWorld69 9 ай бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing all you have to do is re route the windshield washer pumps to the intercooler
@600wheel
@600wheel 9 ай бұрын
@@KSwapTheWorld69 in the vid they said chilling the cooler doesn’t do much but they started with a cold intercooler when you’ve been driving for a few hours or it’s the middle of the summer and you’re on the highway doing a roll that thing warms up quick windshield washer fluid cools it right out but I think one benefit to the CO2 is you’re not risking getting water or methanol somewhere you don’t want it. You’re right I’ve seen a lot of guys just do that you got a mess with the sprayer on the end of it to get a good misting effect but it works very well and it’s basically free that CO2 set up or using nitrous is absolutely not the cost of nitrous is why I put a blower on my car I was burning through a bottle a day just out having fun. Compared to nitrous that blower paid for itself in a couple of months. And no more nitrous backfires turning the butterfly in my throttlebody into a clam which is also very expensive
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing 9 ай бұрын
My SRT4 came with the same set up with the turbo toys option and it works well....I also use wiper fluid in my SNOW brand water/meth kit because it's chemically the same as the 30 bucks a gallon boost juice they sell...all works great and a must have if you want to run a good amount boost without killing you daily...👍
@KSwapTheWorld69
@KSwapTheWorld69 9 ай бұрын
@@CraigBrosRacing look at the ingredients to windshield washer fluid it's got some Methanol in it, it's not much but it's there
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing 9 ай бұрын
@@KSwapTheWorld69 true that...the car can't tell the difference between industrial glass cleaner and SNOWs boost juice and the graph isn't any different between the two when doing dyno pulls..👍 easier on my wallet is the only difference I can see so far...
@RBGgermanKX250F
@RBGgermanKX250F 9 ай бұрын
The big drop in boost pressure between the run without and then with that you're seeing is the resistance of the intercooler as well as any difference in density. Also likely the spray may have worked better without airflow as many of these systems are designed to quickly help rid heatsoak vs actually decreasing temps significantly. Heat exchange is always delta temp and delta time in very basic terms. So actually giving the CO2 time to spray and "sit on" the cooler may have helped. But again mostly for getting getting rid of heatsoak after sitting.
@leafydialupking1
@leafydialupking1 9 ай бұрын
You’re right on the pressure drop but not the CO2. The CO2 tank they have isn’t a siphon tank so they’re just spraying gas and not liquid. They’d have needed to invert the tank to go it right.
@donalddarbonne779
@donalddarbonne779 9 ай бұрын
Gale Banks would agree that density is better than PSI.
@danielcox3983
@danielcox3983 9 ай бұрын
If you want to make consistent boost pressure, why not put the boost line to the waste gate closer to the intake plenum so the turbo hits higher pressures before aftercooling? Also, if you want to see better results on using cryogenic cooling, try wrapping the coil around the discharge line on the intercooler with smaller diameter lines. You'll increase your surface area to volume ratio and increase the cooling capacity of the CO2 while also decreasing the amount of gas required per degree of cooling.
@phillippresley4741
@phillippresley4741 5 ай бұрын
Love you guys, great info..yet I've got one for you...co2 with water injection..both on fuel and intercooler. Can even over tube the intake tube...way denser air...
@randywestrum6416
@randywestrum6416 9 ай бұрын
I’ve thought for years about a closed loop low pressure (R-12) refrigerant “tilt coil”as a charge cooler. Only moving part would be a mechanical pivot at the bottom of the coil. As refrigerant liquid flashes to gas in the tilted side of the coil the superheated (cold) gas would migrate to the coil high side condense to liquid, the coil would tilt and start the process over. The only requirement is warm airflow passing through the coil.
@glennarnold3970
@glennarnold3970 9 ай бұрын
guys use the spray nozzles that you would use on your garden vegy patch the small ones that you put in triclon hose and use a soda stream bottle upside down that is what you would use in a drag car small and light and activate the solinoid when the car goes into boost cheers from down under
@Joeameturexpert
@Joeameturexpert 9 ай бұрын
You guys should have added cold can fuel cooler to the mix. Nearly frozen gasoline helps a lot
@yehnahthx
@yehnahthx 9 ай бұрын
You would need to confirm with an actual Chemical Engineer, it requires a lot more energy to change phase from a liquid to gas than it does to raise it from its melting temp to its boiling. For example, water requires 7x more energy to get from 100c to 101c than it does to go from 0c to 100c. The phase change of the fuel is doing a huge amount of cooling of the combustion chamber already. You would be way better off changing to something like E85 so you can add more cooling through fuel evaporation rather than installing a fuel cooler
@michaelclanton1152
@michaelclanton1152 3 ай бұрын
I want to run co2 instead of water in the intercooler in my car under a roots blower using a nos solenoid. Thanks for the tip on using the solenoid.
@suprakillavr4
@suprakillavr4 9 ай бұрын
you 100% can air to air intercool a roots style supercharger. In fact the Thunderbird Supercoupe had that exact configuration.
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. These guys are goofs sometimes.
@pd2340
@pd2340 Ай бұрын
Comment I was looking for.
@racebiketuner
@racebiketuner 8 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@7mgte490
@7mgte490 9 ай бұрын
Great episode right here
@usefulemptiness2410
@usefulemptiness2410 9 ай бұрын
Sudden end to that video. Did you upload the right version? Would have been nice to see the difference in temp compared to the earlier runs for the last pull as well. Any rule of thumb for how much lower octane that can be run per degree lower of temperature regarding detonation? A knock sensor and pump gas doing it all over again, pushing it right to the edge of detonation, would be really interesting to see.
@junieserrano7098
@junieserrano7098 9 ай бұрын
God bless all you guys huge names for me. And what you guys have done for me aside from entertain but the knowledge. Thank for your time and knowledge over thee many years. You guys are already Legends📓⛽️
@jamesmoore8900
@jamesmoore8900 9 ай бұрын
I wish you guys would just post screenshots of the dyno results. The camera on a tv thing doesn't show enough definition, and I can't tell the colors apart.
@robertsrt
@robertsrt Ай бұрын
THIS
@mikestreet4339
@mikestreet4339 Ай бұрын
Was very interesting, and I'm glad they got to all the resolutions we wanted to see. But man I was worried for a second there; this video almost ended as abruptly as an HBO series.
@v.e.7236
@v.e.7236 9 ай бұрын
This set-up looks like something I could use to help cool my Corvair engine's cylinders down.
@roberth.4074
@roberth.4074 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely love to see a cooler with plenums on the long sides. Down with pressure lag!
@ISuckUnderPressure
@ISuckUnderPressure 9 ай бұрын
The pressure drop you experienced was likely due to adding the intercooler vs not having it. Intercoolers are known for dropping pressures…
@steveallen1340
@steveallen1340 9 ай бұрын
Correct. Turbulent flow inside the intercooler is necessary for as many air molecules to come into contact with the aluminium as possible. If the flow is laminar pressure drop will be reduced but most of the air will not touch the aluminium. As air is a poor heat conductor the molecules contacting the aluminium will insulate those that do not, therefore most molecules will not lose heat. Intercooler design is about finding a balance between restriction and heat transfer.
@Acidalley
@Acidalley 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@catastrophic82
@catastrophic82 9 ай бұрын
I found it interesting the fuel-to-air had to be changed for the differing test conditions.. I was thinking of replacing my factor inter-cooler (my car has a known rod knock fault) but now I'm reconsidering.
@filyarauz0912
@filyarauz0912 9 ай бұрын
excelente video ❤
@MINIMOTOMADNESS
@MINIMOTOMADNESS 9 ай бұрын
dudes im in the uk,we need more roadkill garage,motortrend please,dirt everyday too,the best 4x4 show in the world,
@samus40glock
@samus40glock 9 ай бұрын
I live in Arizona. I bet it would make a big difference here in summer.
@america1723
@america1723 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see a custom inner cooled NA run vs N.A. cool air intake comparison
@grandnatty172
@grandnatty172 9 ай бұрын
I always wanted to try this
@PMDW53
@PMDW53 8 ай бұрын
The lower boost pressure with the intercooler can also be attributed to pressure drop across the intercooler if it's restrictive. You would need to measure boost before and after the Intercooler to know for sure.
@TheLeonmafioso
@TheLeonmafioso 4 ай бұрын
Maybe, but remember, not always boost means something, air density really means something. Some time ago an engine builder explained that, pressure doesnt mean boost, if you increase air temp you create pressure but also reduce density. Lower temp reduces pressure but increase density (More density More Oxigen, more fuel can be injected more power).
@josephmatuszak3855
@josephmatuszak3855 9 ай бұрын
Well, a plenum mounted belt/chain driven supercharger can be cooled, but I believe based on where it is based on the throttle body/carb and the boost component it's called "Intracooling" which is what an LSA is using. The difference being it is water (or some kind of coolant) to air.
@TopFlightWR
@TopFlightWR 9 ай бұрын
Great video, would this work for a supercharged vehicle with a heat exchanger?
@MustGoFasterVR4
@MustGoFasterVR4 9 ай бұрын
Put the inter-cooler on an NA engine with the C02 chiller. Artificial cooler air / DA modifier. Would be interesting to see if cooler air would out weigh the intake restriction.
@ElPants21
@ElPants21 9 ай бұрын
The gains are pretty minimal without boost. If you live somewhere where it gets cold your car doesn't just become an animal in the winter despite sometimes below freezing intake temps. Side note: most modern vehicles run heated coolant through their throttle bodies to prevent them from icing up in the winter
@Kx5hundo
@Kx5hundo 9 ай бұрын
i would have liked to see the intercooler dipped or bathed into liquid nitrogen for fun to see if there is gains/diminished gains at extreme low temps
@zorbakaput8537
@zorbakaput8537 9 ай бұрын
Been around since pre WWII. Water injection was used on a number of the faster fighter aircraft for all the positives including air density increase.
@jackass123455
@jackass123455 9 ай бұрын
I'd revisit again but run until the intercooler is heat soaked. I think where these kits shine is bringing the intercooler temps back down after being soaked with heat. I know after a run my intercooler is quite hot I would think a lot like this would return you intercooler temps to a more reasonable temp mlquicker now obviously a fan going to radiate that heat out just as well but if your in the staging lanes this could bring your temps down a bit before your run
@rol1in0n20s
@rol1in0n20s 9 ай бұрын
Did the trigger spray 807 not also have the fan tho? Like you still need moving air to force the co2 through the core and help cool the charge air...
@karrackhalcyon8826
@karrackhalcyon8826 9 ай бұрын
Most sprayers are designed to help temps after several runs when everything is heat soaked. Not necessarily helping your peak numbers at fresh.
@cheapscifi
@cheapscifi 9 ай бұрын
oh the ending was so worth it! 😆🤣😆🤣
@Pippy626
@Pippy626 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see what we could get in my Kia stinger 3.3 v6 TT I’m at 473/505 on a stage 2 tune with intake exhaust and downpipes. I know with a bigger turbo they got 707
@oldmusher
@oldmusher 9 ай бұрын
A few years ago the wife had a Mazdaspeed 3. We live in Minnesota. Took her car out on a nice crisp -26 degree morning, down the on-ramp and nail the throttle to "merge." Yike... like turning on the nitrous.
@billballin6948
@billballin6948 9 ай бұрын
Also, yes there are air to air intercoolers for roots blowers. The ford t bird super coupe had one as well as there being aftermarket options to install them on GM 3800 engines.
@pd2340
@pd2340 Ай бұрын
Just curious of what company sells aftermarket air to air intercooler specifically for gm 3800s? I pretty much only do 3800s and was only aware of zzps water to air and a couple other smaller companies with similar water to air. I know of a few KZfaqrs who had air to air setups, just thought they were custom though. Very much appreciate any info. Thanks.
@billballin6948
@billballin6948 Ай бұрын
@@pd2340 yella terra or mace? I’ll check. It’s only for the rwd Australian guys. Probably why you haven’t seen much about it in North America. I saw one inbred hick from Nebraska who flipped his m90 upside down and went to an air to air, which is easily the dumbest thing anybody could do lmfao.
@jameshess9530
@jameshess9530 8 ай бұрын
Thought about this very thing for years and now I know. 👍
@tristankrager9789
@tristankrager9789 9 ай бұрын
I wanna see this on an air to water intercooler that is generally SUPER hot (like most factory supercharged vehicles)
@josephhawkins-ur4iw
@josephhawkins-ur4iw 9 ай бұрын
I recommend to put the line set going thrue the intercooler. An coming out again.that way it will cool the air sufficiently....it will work then....Joe Hawkins says that Alabama, Blount co. 😊an or add line set off the ac unit in the car to drag race an see...😊
@michaelmain1990
@michaelmain1990 9 ай бұрын
I bet if you mod a roots sc water intercooler to have c02 cycled through it might chill it more, through r32 from the ac compressor might do it to
@ElPants21
@ElPants21 9 ай бұрын
Did Brulee put any more timing in it in lieu of the lower intake temps?
@mgreenesco9955
@mgreenesco9955 9 ай бұрын
I posed the question in my head years ago but never attempted it. Could you use an a/c compressor with the system circulated through the jacket of a intercooler??? Any thoughts?
@trevortasin4934
@trevortasin4934 8 ай бұрын
Do deferent size spark plug wires make more power?
@DirtE30
@DirtE30 9 ай бұрын
It would be worth it on a 100 degree track or on the street in GA. lol. Your temp differential in the dyno room is sweet, no so much against 130 degree pavement.
@woolyant9417
@woolyant9417 9 ай бұрын
what if you add a fan to the spray? should help really getting those temps down
@uknterror508
@uknterror508 9 ай бұрын
The CO2 benefits in extended runs, not short bursts or in areas of high heat like Arizona. If youre hot lapping your car, even with the best A2A intercooler youd run into heat soak issues, C02 can help extend those laps or rounds and can be set to activate when a certain IAT goes over a threshold, to keep it in check.
@toycoma98
@toycoma98 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I was thinking of getting a co2 intercooler kit, but its not worth it. Plus you have to somehow carry a co2 bottle in the car. I'm gonna try windshield washer fluid and a garden sprinkler nozzle to spray my intercooler.
@Underpantsniper
@Underpantsniper 9 ай бұрын
just disconnect your windshield washers and run a hose with a nozzle to your intercooler. Thats what a couple of my friends did.
@aeroflopper
@aeroflopper 9 ай бұрын
windsreen washer jet's get some newer ones are an eco spray type
@maxiumgolf1
@maxiumgolf1 9 ай бұрын
I know it’s mainly a gas engine channel. Could you do something like this for diesel. 5.9 24 valve
@danielmarquis7469
@danielmarquis7469 7 ай бұрын
In a real under hood environment it makes a much larger difference because of heat soak, liquid sprayers will bring the temperature down to where your testing was but from a much higher starting temperature
@deadguy237
@deadguy237 9 ай бұрын
water sprayers work good on an air to air... with air flow... can you guys test it
@panagiotis1519
@panagiotis1519 9 ай бұрын
Side mount Rootes blower on an inline engine can run an air to air intercooler, Dave.
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 9 ай бұрын
Might have missed mention of it, but it's also important to avoid the CO₂ being drawn into the engine.
@user-cd3vg8ix4g
@user-cd3vg8ix4g 8 ай бұрын
Snow performance for the win.
@justinr9297
@justinr9297 9 ай бұрын
just because i like to stir the pot what about runing a intersooler on the intake of a NA car to get colder air temps ( i think it would not make very much diffrence in temp or power but you never know ) also wouuld just having a air compresser and a tank inset of co2 or nos in the sprayer be any better or worse
@davidjames766
@davidjames766 9 ай бұрын
Would like to see a air to air vs a water to air intercooler test. Trying to decide if the added weight and hassle of the ice is worth the power gains
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing 9 ай бұрын
Depends on if it's a street car, street race car or straight race car...if it's driven more than raced than A to A is the way if it's main purpose is to be a race car then W to A is the way...W to A gets you the coolest charge but not practical in a street car..
@CraigBrosRacing
@CraigBrosRacing 9 ай бұрын
Most super expensive hyper cars (example - BUGATTI CHIRON) has A to A intercoolers..most drag cars have W to A..
@davidjames766
@davidjames766 9 ай бұрын
Drag and drive/no trailer cash days style build.
@Underpantsniper
@Underpantsniper 9 ай бұрын
@@davidjames766 Just go Air to Air for street/strip setup. And if you want get a 50hp shot of nitrous or a methanol injector for when you go racing.
@tylermallory2504
@tylermallory2504 9 ай бұрын
depends on the apparatus making the boost too. I have a water cooled brick under my roots style blower!
@rute1745
@rute1745 9 ай бұрын
it's crazy see just from simple airflow over the intercooler does the grunt of the work on cooling the charged air and adding in the CO2 didn't help much. i'm wondering how cool does the air have to be to reach that plato?
@ibnthani
@ibnthani 4 ай бұрын
I used to have the Evo6 it used to have the intercooler spray and it used to make a difference specially when you’re driving a bit.. I change the water bottle into icebox that was much better made much more horsepower IN lower boost numbers in hot climate
@999Lucas
@999Lucas 9 ай бұрын
It would be cool to be able to heat up a chamber around the block and water pump to underhood temps with meal holding that heat there. What about water/ethanol mist? I think an extra washer bottle misting on the intercooler with a fan blowing gets the fins cooler than the CO2. With that kind of setup, it only cools on the surface of the metal and disappates quickly whereas an alcohol mist would make more contact with the fins and evaporate, causing it to cool. That is why its more common to see water sprayers than these co2 things, and the same applies when moving over to a air to water. A metal water tank will just soak up the heat, where as a plastic tank or yeti cooler is made of a heat insulator.
@user-jr1qy4rv5u
@user-jr1qy4rv5u Ай бұрын
Do a test with the inner cooler with dry ice in the top of it.Make a hole in a cap and fill up the top and dry ice
@Ill06Taco
@Ill06Taco 9 ай бұрын
The guys missed the fact that this in fact does apply to roots superchargers; yes you cant apply this directly to the intercooler itself but you CAN apply it to an auxiliary heat exchanger it could be connected to
@joshvega4906
@joshvega4906 9 ай бұрын
You can use an air to air in a roots supercharger. They are just rare. Thunderbird super coupes have air to air root superchargers.
@caritechsolutions9382
@caritechsolutions9382 9 ай бұрын
The change in boost is most likely pressure drop across the intercooler
@kevinjohnson9372
@kevinjohnson9372 8 ай бұрын
I know the front mount is for the test but can't you put a lil charge cooler in that intake I know there's tops for super chargers and carbs but I think a charge cooler could go in that holley Intake
@tomj6941
@tomj6941 9 ай бұрын
Under a hot hood and with out that super fan I bet this would get good numbers
@robertbone5057
@robertbone5057 9 ай бұрын
I dont understand why there are no split turbos like they do in f1. I dont feel lit it would be hard. Where the 2 snails are separated and connected by a spinning shaft. Boost side up front by the intercooler and hot side back by the headers. Have you tried that? I would think the separation would make a big difference in heat soak.
@captainobvious9188
@captainobvious9188 9 ай бұрын
There was a build trend for a long time to have the v-mount intercooler with the air filter inlet above the intercooler. It always really bugged me.
@Bearded_SARTECH
@Bearded_SARTECH 9 ай бұрын
Adding piping and intercooler dropped the pressure at the manifold. Also, bleed valve controlling is a small boost leak and isnt consistent between setups. Digital boost controllers shine in this department and keep the leak sealed off until the last minute which equals faster spool ups.
@american7169
@american7169 9 ай бұрын
I think the co2 cooler would work more efficiently on the fuel rail. Fogging the a2a with water or methanol seems to drop iat much better so you might try that also.
@ElPants21
@ElPants21 9 ай бұрын
The water is really the key there. The latent heat of vaporization of water is roughly four times larger than CO2 by weight. Water absorbs a metric buttload of heat energy which is why it's used for engine coolant in the first place. When you mix in evaporative cooling with that also you get even more
@bennyfactor
@bennyfactor 9 ай бұрын
Maybe at a drag night you could have that snake thing attached to your intercooler, hose it down with a big welding bottle like you had for a couple minutes, then do a run on the strip? But certainly otherwise this system does seem kinda superfluous compare to just a good A2A intercooler.
@doodlebroSH
@doodlebroSH 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think the colder air effects the pressure drop as much as adding volume to the system does (by adding the intercooler in the first place)
@jeffpolakiewicz2277
@jeffpolakiewicz2277 9 ай бұрын
What about water condensation from humidity?
@christopherjohnson4733
@christopherjohnson4733 9 ай бұрын
Will the intercooler on a normally aspirated engine make more power
@bgoodellynp
@bgoodellynp 9 ай бұрын
I don't understand half of what's being said, but I enjoy it all.
@NOTSOSLIMJIM
@NOTSOSLIMJIM 9 ай бұрын
I remember when these came out in the 90's
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 9 ай бұрын
The ecu should be adjusting the mixture based on the air density which is temperature dependent. I dont understand why they should have to adjust their tuneup unless it was an incomplete tune to begin with.
@KARR
@KARR 9 ай бұрын
Well you could remote mount roots supercharger and run a front mount
@mikevalverde2861
@mikevalverde2861 3 ай бұрын
Can you add an intercooler on a naturally aspirated?Feel ejected and chevy truck
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 9 ай бұрын
I would have tought you'd gain way more power. Specially if you're always keeping the same boost pressure. Another point about vortech superchargers, the colder the air, the less boost pressure, less pressure means less resistance meaning the supercharger is easier to drive.
@lennyinne
@lennyinne 9 ай бұрын
I always wondered why no has used dry ice with either methanol or ethenol in intercooler systems that use an ice bath
@DuxTrucks
@DuxTrucks 2 ай бұрын
I am surprised you didnt do " back to back" runs to see how it did with heat soak 😮
@yourmomsaman
@yourmomsaman 9 ай бұрын
You guys should start doing start doing jdm engines. I see all v8 power, and that's great, but I would like to see some 2jz and RB and maybe a b13
@fishfoodbiscuit
@fishfoodbiscuit 9 ай бұрын
Why can't we get the motortrend app in the uk anymore?????
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 6 ай бұрын
Im actually curious what the results would be like for a car with a top mount intercooler getting plenty of hot air but also has a small amount of fresh air flowing through it
@bruni5289
@bruni5289 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see Gale Banks react to this and get his opinion. It also has me wondering about the setup on a project car I'm working on again, which is never good for me because of how I do my BOM and keep track of the design
@KingSMW
@KingSMW 9 ай бұрын
why? Ive heard Bank's opinion go against dyno and street tested data.
@jasondreams202
@jasondreams202 9 ай бұрын
The cooling effect of the intercooler alone was already enough… had they run higher boost or a smaller intercooler I feel that it would of had a greater effect
@martinllanos4998
@martinllanos4998 9 ай бұрын
The only reason you had a drop of pressure is because you added a restriction to the airflow. High quality mfg will note the pressure drop you should expect out of a particular intercooler model.
@TimberTrainer
@TimberTrainer 9 ай бұрын
The spray should help cool the radiator as well.
@vitaliivanov77
@vitaliivanov77 9 ай бұрын
...установил кулер вода-воздух om628 на мотор om606 superturbo - зверь!
@Pwc5oh
@Pwc5oh 9 күн бұрын
Will this not warp the metal?
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