Mountain Bike Dropper Post Install | GMBN Tech Essentials Ep. 10

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Mountain Bike Dropper Post Install | GMBN Tech Essentials Ep. 10

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5 жыл бұрын

Dropper posts are the order of the day in this episode of MTB tech essentials. Dropper Posts enhance your mountain bike ride by moving the saddle out of the way with little to no interruption at the start of a descent, lowering your centre of gravity and allowing you to ride in a more dynamic manner without any risk of getting caught up on your seat.
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@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 5 жыл бұрын

The info just keeps getting better. This is this channels best contribution to cycling by far. Doddy knows set up, and its critical for mountain biking.

@gmbntech 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@awesometuscaloosa7203 5 жыл бұрын

For years I refuse to get a dropper post... then my new bike came with one and is awesome, I am getting more fore my other bikes, thanks for the tutorial Doddie,cheers!

@briancunningham1975 2 жыл бұрын

Probably the best purchase for a bike you’ll make

@JeffMcAhren 2 жыл бұрын

I've resisted getting a dropper for all these years, I just never felt like I needed one. I'm installing one on my XC tomorrow, I hope I find it as 'essential' as everyone says they are! Great install video Doddy. The part about measuring the cable still isn't 100% clear, I assume you measured the 165mm down from the original 'frame' mark, and that 165mm amount was based on your dropper length inside the frame, but I'll make sure to measure multiple times before cutting.

@peterwilliamson4296 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining the cable. Other dropper post "experts" never mention it. Your video explaining things so clearly is unique and absolutely outstanding. New fan.

@spankervideo 4 жыл бұрын

All adult males that attempt to make instructional and informational videos, this is the standard by which all others should be judged. NO bullshit, NO headbanger music, NO childish graphics, NO animated stupidity, just INFORMATION. Thank you GMBN Tech.

@billrose2339 Жыл бұрын

Got my hands on a Ragley Big Al 2.0 without dropper this year. Ordered a Brand X dropper from Chain Reaction Cycles and used your video to aid in my install. Thought I would not say the install was 'easy', your video really made my install relatively headache free. Was very careful every step of the way, especially cutting the cables, so your video was a huge help. Thanks!!

@LogieT2K 3 жыл бұрын

I rode a bike with a dropper for the first time recently, they are game changing bit of kit

@deuce9624 5 жыл бұрын

That is a good looking bike your working on. I almost ordered one. Great color

@lukerisser9163 4 жыл бұрын

Me as well. Went with commencal meta ht instead tho

@skiiines 3 жыл бұрын

@@lukerisser9163 what color i got the sand

@lukerisser9163 3 жыл бұрын

@@skiiines same lol

@juluisreyes9094 Жыл бұрын

I used the wire cable itself as a guide. I inserted it first on the bike frame along with the remote lever and protruded it out of the seat tube. Next is I slide the housing cable into the wire cable that is already inside the bike frame thru the seat tube and up towards the routing coming outside of the downtube. And viola, the upper end of the housing will automatically fit to the remote lever as you pushed. Finally is setting the wire cable length with respect to the housing cable using the plastic piece protector that came with the droper post to fit to the engagement of the dropper. (Note: I did not cut my housing cable as I estimated the stock length is appropriate for my frame)

@davidmillar6948 2 жыл бұрын

Found this vid useful. Good solution I used today to install brand x dropper post cable internally on my 2021 vitus hardtail is to feed a length of wool - yes wool - down thro the top hole in the downtube, put the hoover nozzle over the hole at the lower end of the downtube, which sucks out the wool. Tie a length of decent fishing line to end of the wool, tie other end of fishing line around the end of the outer cable, just below the ferule/end cover so it has something to grip, wrap tape around this to prevent the knot from snagging on the hole(s), making a conical shape so the end is streamlined for smooth egress from the top hole... feed the outer cable up the downtube, pulling the fishing line at the same time... Et Voila... the outer cable pops out the top hole and has been successfully routed internally thro the downtube. Wool works well as being light and 'fluffy' it catches the air better than string/bootlace etc which I also tried without success. The wool and hoover method worked first time for me. The outer cable then easily feeds up thro the hole at the back of the seat tube behind the bottom bracket on my bike - others may be different - the rest is straightforward, follow product instructions. A good spin on the bike followed with dropper post working well :-)

@austingeorge6659 Жыл бұрын

"...Won't hit you in the stomach... or anywhere else... " 😂

@palicar 5 жыл бұрын

I got a cheap one with the lever under the saddle. I have to take my hand off the bars but it's ok. So far I have no real issues with it. Clean cockpit.

@willhooke Жыл бұрын

As a former Tradesman this video was excellently done Concise yet with all needed information 👏 Thank you Doddy 👍

@nox1010 4 жыл бұрын

That cable routing tool is a great idea, but I needed one in a pinch so I knocked one up, used a small tie rod end from an RC car with a screw in it tied to a length of string and a magnet inside a sock (using a clean one is optional), then a paper clip to hook it once you're on the port, worked a charm and cost nothing!! Any questions gimme a shout!!

@danielbromley849 3 жыл бұрын

Mate you're on to something. Can you post a photo somehow?

@nox1010 3 жыл бұрын

@@danielbromley849 I can't post a photo unfortunately, basically you need to tie something made of a metal that the magnet will grab and small enough to fit through the ports to the string, pop it in the port, then cover a good strong magnet in fabric so as not to scratch the frame and pull the metal along to the exit port then hook it out, then back to where you went in, attach the loose end of the string to your cable outer with a couple of wraps of tape, it needs to be able to fit in the port, so not too much tape (good idea to put a knot in the string so it can't pull out from under the tape), pull the string through and the cable outer will follow, once that's in thread the cable inner through and the hard bit is done

@ambalee 5 жыл бұрын

It's worth to take into consideration your bike's water bottle fittings on the seat tube.

@garygilbert1127 5 жыл бұрын

as a complete noob a few years ago on a hardtail I knew the single most important upgrade was a dropper, that and tyres that grip and dont puncture by looking at them.

@diogo8500 2 жыл бұрын

1:06 "Anywhere else" is a nice way to describe it.

@Mgrant8163 3 жыл бұрын

I would die to have a shop that looks like that! All the tools match, clean and no son to make off with the wrench that i need the first time I need it. Great video. Thanks.

@townley1017 Жыл бұрын

I am that son

@klisurski 3 жыл бұрын

A catch with this specific model: 9:00 minute: when you stick the grey cylinder into the post you have to turn it clockwise to the limit (lock point) and only then tighten the black lockring, otherwise when the remote cable is in its released state the cable-side rotor gets to its most-clockwise position, but the seatpost-side rotor doesn't and the dropper doesn't lock completely.

@khfjbfjvxjdk 4 жыл бұрын

5:55 here you go

@mr.e0311 4 жыл бұрын

Fkn thank YOU!!!

@TheButlerNZ 4 жыл бұрын

1:38 actually a problem I had was the lack of information on the actual DEPTH of the seat post. I have a Giant Faith 2010 and had to do a bit of manual measurement with the old seat post, dropping it as far as it would go, (which is actually not all that far in my frames case) to get the maximum depth, then measuring the old post at its highest ride height for me.. (109% etc) to get the maximum length overall that could fit... Then it was just a case of finding the best drop I could get within that length... and there actually wasn't many options for my budget or even no price limit.. with factors like no internal cable routing option etc. due to the kink and pivot halfway down the seat post tube. I went with a Zoom Tequilla (100mm drop) from the cheap range to make sure the calculations were right etc. I have about 20mm unused depth with it at the correct height... but if I really need it, I can always drop the body and run the day with a short max height, but gain the extra 20mm drop. (There wasn't a post that gave a better lower position without loosing upper, or bottoming out before the upper most position was at my riding height (which would have ment having to constantly adjust the seat to get the correct climp position rather than it just being set at full extension. Due to the frame geometry, the exposed post to the seat is almost the same length as the depth from the top of the frame tube to the suspension pivot they ran through the center of the post tube to ensure it was impossible to get a longer post in. What I need is a 2 stage telescopic post to get more than the 100mm but the design would have to be heavy to retain strength over the joints...

@KG-jr8lc 5 жыл бұрын

the reverb is more like "the mad king" of hydraulic posts

@addsy6396 5 жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks Doddy. Appreciate this but showing the cable routing technique without the cable tool would have been handy to. Its an expensive bit of kit that I’m not likely to use that often...

@gmbntech 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Addsy, Find an old spoke and bend the end creating a hooked pick tool and then poke this into the cable exit hole. Feed the cable through until it passes through this and then pull it out. Hopefully this helps you 👍

@mortonfrankfire5400 5 жыл бұрын

Man I could have done with this on Friday morning when I was fitting my new crank brothers dropper lol. All in and good now though 🙂

@roncooke2188 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, I like feed some lub. through a cable like you did but i have been told not to, been doing it for over 30 year with no problems so far and when some of the bikes i service are never kept indoors

@gladyshughes8497 Жыл бұрын

Set up in my garage. Sure comes in handy. Works great

@Larpy1933 4 жыл бұрын

Totally excellent. This could not be more useful. Thanks a lot.

@YuunaAndCuddles 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. I'm planning on having a dropper post on my next paycheck, and I have absolutely no idea on how it will be installed. This video gave me insight on what to expect. Now I'm not doing any trails, but I live on an area with rough roads.

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@yourfatson8262 4 жыл бұрын

My buddy found a dropper from a company called brand-x he ordered it for $100 with free shipping it works great and it has 150mm of travel it’s actually good especially for the money

@EllyCamperChic 5 жыл бұрын

This is very useful thank you 😊

@gmbntech 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@JinNani224 Жыл бұрын

Why does this seem so complicated

@Iridebik3s 2 ай бұрын

It is 😭😭😭

@boombachucongi5797 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think I’m just going to bring it to a bike shop

@erpol9258 5 жыл бұрын

Can you do a how to mantain a dropper post pls ?

@Butterfly07949 2 жыл бұрын

Or for anyone who cant afford a more modern bike and the specs are not available (my bike was made in 1999) is to use a venier caliper to measure the seat tube diameter.

@iwanttoliveinthewoods 2 жыл бұрын

Good god I can't wait to install one. No more shouting "illll catchhh upp"

@chrisallsoppmtb8452 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info I just replaced my cable and lever today but got carried away at the start and pulled the old cable and housing straight Out so I had to feed a piece of string with a bolt tied to the end through then tie and tape that to the new housing and pull it back

@AlvaroQF 5 жыл бұрын

I love the external routing, installing the Reverb on an internal routed frame must be freakin difficult.

@IIJAMZYII 4 жыл бұрын

Cable related stuff gives me the fear. 😬

@YalikemyTigerBeat 3 жыл бұрын

It a bloody cable what the worst that happens?

@IIJAMZYII 3 жыл бұрын

@@YalikemyTigerBeat have you ever cut a cable to short with no spare? Horrific.

@mikelafferty5253 10 ай бұрын

Im having a heck of a time getting housing thru my frame without it shredding the outer housing up. Ruined the first one already. Gonna try a Jagwire Pro kit as it serms the outer housing is smaller diameter and more flexible

@mikelafferty5253 10 ай бұрын

The holes at the bottom of each tube seems really sharp

@andrewscott1253 3 жыл бұрын

I've fitted a dropper post on my bike, I've also fitted a gas lift cylinder on an office chair. It seems to me they are basically the same thing.

@mountainlessmtb9940 5 жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@gmbntech 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Thomas👍

@skyreznik7368 5 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video for bleeding sram guide brakes?

@baileydillon7809 3 жыл бұрын

Step 1. Buy codes

@skyreznik7368 3 жыл бұрын

@@baileydillon7809 that’s what i did

@jonbrown1371 Жыл бұрын

Oneup has a 240mm dropper

@Mulberry2000 8 ай бұрын

Good video but what if you cannot put the cable inside the frame and seat post?

@robbennett9163 3 жыл бұрын

Great Channel! You are my goto for Mountain Bike Setup! I am building a Carbon Scott Scale. My Question/ Concern is, I am adding a Dropper Seat and it requires a fully cased cable terminated under the Dropper itself and at the Control Lever of course. So First question is it ok to drill out the frame entry (Hard Plastic Grommet insert) to have fully cased cable from control to Dropper... Second Concern is Rear Derailleur enters frame "Typical" Left side... Dropper Control will be on the Left Bar and enter the frame "Typical" Right side... I feel like its going to result in an In-Frame cable crossing (Rubbing?), as the Scott has a bare interior cable setup for the rear Derailleur that exits "Right" side under Bottom Bracket! Left over to right! Dropper will be Right to, up the center Seat Tube of course? Whats your thoughts?

@robbie5411 2 жыл бұрын

Thnxxx man

@thhogs 2 жыл бұрын

Could you use a teflon coated cable instead or wouldn't it give you any benefit?

@diluxe 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful thanks 👍

@backinthesaddle4861 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Doddy, I recently mounted an RFR Pro dropper post on my hartail Cube Reaction hybrid. now I have read that There is a maximum rider weight recommended for this dropper. I am not a light weight rider myself and my own weight is sitting against the max weight of the dropper, which makes it not so pleasant, I am afraid that I can damage the dropper if I ride on it. I was wondering why I don't see this in any of the dropper videos? Is this something I should take seriously or just an indication? I wonder how many people have had any problems with this.

@matejovik1351 5 жыл бұрын

What about external cable dropper posts? Some older frames just dont have internal rounting.

@FredGtn 5 жыл бұрын

You can use the Magura dropper seat, a bit expensive but without cable

@matejovik1351 5 жыл бұрын

@@FredGtn Yes, but there are also dropper posts with external rounting, and they are cheaper.

@th_js 5 жыл бұрын

It's way easier.

@conman1395 5 жыл бұрын

What about them? You just put it in your bike

@matejovik1351 5 жыл бұрын

@@conman1395 yes, i think like DODO didnt say u can use it, so a lot of people can think there are only wireless or internal rounting

@Sparvar1 3 жыл бұрын

Very useful as always, thank you

@BoBByQc444 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Doddy, dropper post is the upgrade i would do anytime .. but unfortunately .. got to wait a little bit more .. as the prices of the upgrades are out of my reach for now. Thank's for the video .. always a great help ;-) Cheers !! ;-)

@yenhobz 3 жыл бұрын

How you pot the cable on the housing

@adambg02 3 жыл бұрын

What if your bike doesn't have internal cable routing?

@C00ltronix 2 жыл бұрын

...then get a dropper post with external cable. There are plenty.

@matthausfrick5971 3 жыл бұрын

What could be the reason when an dropper post dosen´t come up on it´s on? Could it be the cable tension or is it more likely the cartridge

@DemonicVelocity 3 жыл бұрын

If you can pull it up while actuated, it's probably the cartridge.

@surfjat15 4 жыл бұрын

I'm confused, instead of all this measuring can't you theoretically just insert the dropper with the cable and cable housing already ran through the bike and connected to the dropper, set it at the proper height for the way you ride , then pull the slack out at the top then just pull the cable tight and secure it at the lever?

@Dietrich804 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I did when my bike was delivered with the cable all squashed in the bottom.

@johnf3326 3 жыл бұрын

I want to fit a dropper post to wife's emtb. She finds it hard to get on and off with the seat at the right height for 'straight leg down' when pedalling. Have 20cm inside seat tube but need absolute minimum protruding above top of seat tube with dropper down. Getting info for available droppers is a nightmare!

@quincee3376 Жыл бұрын

thx!!!

@stevenjalopnik1342 5 жыл бұрын

I like lyric because it’s red, I do not like whole wheat bread, I don’t want to go to bed, Maxxis assegais that I have had for about 2 weeks already have no tread,

@lilbiker5040 4 жыл бұрын

Steven Jalopnik nice gotten from lil barnacle- porn 🙃🥴

@ahlikemuself 4 жыл бұрын

I've read what you said. Ooooh those Maxxis are dead.

@chicagodrill3705 3 жыл бұрын

I have a specialized stunt jumper 2009 there is no hole for the dropper cable to go threw would i need to drill one

@AmogusSusAmongusSussyBakaAmogg 3 жыл бұрын

i have a scott aspect 760 2016 and there is two bolts on the seat tube. and the were blocking the seat from going all the way down, so i removed them. but no there are still some weird cylindrical things in the seat tube so i cant get a dropper post. pls help.

@lionsmusic004 4 жыл бұрын

great video, thanks

@sarikshaikh-upadhye6279 4 жыл бұрын

GMBN Tech can you do a video on the possibility of setting up a dropper post remote for a 2x setup?

@igormitrovic8050 2 жыл бұрын

Should the dropper have some air? Since my Fox dropper has a little bit so I don't know if this is normal or should I service it?

@silverarrowmtb Жыл бұрын

Is this man a robot?

@SeanSawander Жыл бұрын

Nice

@ImBradz 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t have holes in my frame for the cable how do I do this? I have a gt avalanche elite 2016

@m.pence1575 4 жыл бұрын

so he has an internal cable routing system on his bike . your bike sounds like it is external so make sure you order a external dropper.

@hobinlobo 4 жыл бұрын

See kzfaq.info/get/bejne/js17oLunlqm1k5s.html

@chantalfarr7743 11 ай бұрын

The bike is solid and my Ebike conversion went great. kzfaq.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Very smooth ride at 30mph with no problems (135 miles ridden so far). The picture is a bit deceiving - there is WAY less space in the center of the frame than it shows. The suspension connection takes up the entire thing. So I needed to attach my battery on the bottom of the frame and my controller on the top. Instructions for assembly were lacking but honestly it wasn't too hard to figure out even though I have very little bike knowledge. Watched some youtube videos on adjusting the disk brakes but that was it. Still, I am loving it and very happy with the purchase.

@ewanduplessis9682 Жыл бұрын

I heard the custom drop post that dont come standard sometimes get or are a bit loose, leading the post/seat to rattle? Is should this be this case once installed?

@19brian55 3 жыл бұрын

That’s great, but how do you get it to work if the bottle cage mounts (without screws) block the seat tube halfway down?

@TheInevitableBanana 7 ай бұрын

Can I cut the cable at the end

@scottmondell7824 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I find the internal routing assisting tool?

@richardaitkenhead Жыл бұрын

I plan on getting one but I'm confused on price, I really don't want to pay 350 for one but don't want to waste money on a rubbish £50 ,any advice ?

@MikeGlorfindel 3 жыл бұрын

Help! I can’t get the Park Tool assembly paste for love nor money and can’t seem to find an alternative in the UK. Just got a 200mm dropper but don’t want to instal it and over tighten so is there any other assembly grease for ali frames as I don’t want to fit my £160 dropper only to over tighten it on the first attempt.

@iliriano6 5 жыл бұрын

Did he just undo that bolt with a torque wrench. @11:07

@finnpeall1393 4 жыл бұрын

It looks like he’s tightening it

@bienamorpesa 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. I have a merida big nine 200 2021 model. Can i install a dropper post for this bike?

@cwuzii 4 жыл бұрын

Did you just crimp the end cap with needle nose pliers even though you clearly have actual crimpers that are made for the job on your wire cutters?

@Tryinglittleleg 4 жыл бұрын

doesn't matter at all.

@cwuzii 4 жыл бұрын

Tryinglittleleg the crimpers will do a cleaner and better job every time. Also, worth mentioning in case they don’t actually realise their wire cutters have the crimpers...

@cataca91 3 жыл бұрын

This tutorial is good but made with an easy to mount seatpost my sdg tellis is a pain in the ass to reinstall because my cable was too long and now everytime i pull the lever the cable either loosens or the cable dislodges from the seatpost :/

@Gumpa2 3 жыл бұрын

Well, what should I do, when I cannot put cables through the frame, as there are no holes?

@mjbbell 5 жыл бұрын

You didn’t show how tight the collar at the bottom is to take off out of the box. I gave up trying to unscrew my one when installing my dropper seat post. But I like the crank brother seat post a lot better that the rock shox that came with my T-130s

@unzulaessig 5 жыл бұрын

next video: how to get rid off the annoying wobbeling of dropper post´s!

@th_js 5 жыл бұрын

You can't

@wackybuds9315 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there I have bought a brand new bike around a mouth ago I have used it today at a bike park for the first time I have rode it in the past by only on small trails, now my cable dropper post will not stay lock down it keep rising up by its self and the lever for the post feels stiff, is there any Advice you can give for me to fix it thank you

@notapplicable6274 3 жыл бұрын

I’m disappointed Doddy. Your opinion of Rockshox Reverb as the best dropper IS NOT SHARED BY REAL MTBEERS🍺🙏🔑✌️

@RobertSundgren 5 жыл бұрын

You need to address the pain that is cabel management on a external dropper post. Excess amount of cabel close to rotating tiers.

@gmbntech 5 жыл бұрын

Yes internal routing through the seat tube is much neater and keep the cable out of the way.

@markreyes2354 3 жыл бұрын

What is the best and affordable dropper seat post for allow frames?

@georgemacdonald6805 4 жыл бұрын

Hi All. I have installed a dropper but it seems to drop a bit when I sit on the seat. Any reasons why it would do this. Thanks in advance.

@Justin-yx4bq 4 жыл бұрын

Checking your pressure would be the first thing to do.

@flippy66 3 жыл бұрын

Boomers in 2009: "Dropper posts are a fad" Boomers in 2021: "Dropper posts are a fad"

@Jack-zd6dn 3 жыл бұрын

After installing this would it be easy to pull apart and add to put on another bike?

@Kenevoslcomp777 2 жыл бұрын

I’m having trouble figuring out how far I can can push my dropper in the frame I want the seat slammed when descending I was going to buy one up but they’re no help they just give me information to figure it out on my own like condescending bike nerds

@awesomeperson8092 3 жыл бұрын

Does the dropper post come with the cables?

@linemedia666 3 жыл бұрын

depends what you get

@thecan4202 2 жыл бұрын

Soo what if the nipple needs to be on both ends then how would you go about that?

@slabbyrider8665 3 жыл бұрын

My 400mm bizango seat post can drop 250mm into the tube. Would I be able to fit a 170mm dropper (274mm insert including actuator) with 30mm left below the collar? So 244mm inserted in the frame. Just curious as the measurements say yes yet I've read someone saying you can't even fit a 150mm post. Maybe they're just assuming a full insert.

@the_life_of_thang_nho 2 жыл бұрын

Anybody run into the issue with the waterbottle anchor inside the frame limiting the space you have to insert? This is for a medium 2021 Specialized Rockhopper. Was hoping to throw a 200mm inside, but may have to settle with 125mm

@guitarman1234567891 3 жыл бұрын

8:22 so do you just push the wire cable through the housing? Will it go around that sharp bottom turn?? @gmbn

@thearoom 3 жыл бұрын

Help... Can you hang your bike from under the seat on your car rack with a dropper post fully extended? My bike is small and only one arm can go through the frame the other allways attached to the seat post but now I have a dropper...What to do beside getting new platform rack?