Mounting a horse in 15th century Armour

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airnt

airnt

Күн бұрын

Viewer request,
some stats:
Horse: 15hh2" (158 cm), andalusian gelding
Saddle: 'bravante warsaddle' as per 15th century, probably about 1470, made by Marcin Ruda
Armour: 1470s German 'italo -German composite style'. Full mail shirt, 3 mm breastplate, total weight 29 kg (64 Lbs)
I am myself 193 cm tall (6'4")

Пікірлер: 30
@Velkan1396
@Velkan1396 2 жыл бұрын
I found myself just gazing at the reflections in the armor. A nice polish is the way to go. Thanks for the content Arne.
@93xxlolxx
@93xxlolxx 2 жыл бұрын
You rock prophet
@brandonhood1936
@brandonhood1936 2 жыл бұрын
He’s back
@rubberdc
@rubberdc 2 жыл бұрын
This video is just amazing and thank you for taking the time to film the mounting and editing it etc . I admire you greatly for looking absolutely STUNNING in a suit of armour . Fit, strong, masculine and slender and handsome. All qualities of a knight .
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
it si a really simple boring video, really, but people really wanted it so i did a quick one between the prep for the event next weekend
@rubberdc
@rubberdc 2 жыл бұрын
@@airnt for me , to sit and watch as you get up on the saddle in such amazing armour , it more than a simple video and so not boring at all. I very much , appreciate the fact that you harnessed up and made this for us to watch . You are SO fit and slim and beautiful in the armour !Thank you .
@docstockandbarrel
@docstockandbarrel 17 күн бұрын
👍🏻
@caramel7556
@caramel7556 2 жыл бұрын
you should do a video doing a complete overview of your kit, the time it was used in, the location of which it'd be used in, what sources you used to make it (whether that's art or real artifacts) and the social status of someone would be wearing such a kit. Oh and if you have a soft kit an overview for that would be cool too.
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for the idea, i really can use a lot of these suggestions. It is a little bit more of a mish-mash than i would like, as it was more designed to understand a series of design considerations in terms of effectiveness and capability rather than a 'darstellung' or presentation of a homogenous typical example.
@am17frans
@am17frans 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see things here again! Made me happy!
@jeffnorsegod8080
@jeffnorsegod8080 2 жыл бұрын
Another wonderfully informative video, thank you for sharing this information and making it so easily accessible.
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
my pleasure
@GameboyMega
@GameboyMega 2 жыл бұрын
Can we see you mount with a lance? I'm curious to see it in practice!
@mullraugh2571
@mullraugh2571 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine a retainer or soldier would simply pass the lance up to the knight after he's on the horse.
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
there is two ways, hold it in the left hand with your saddle and reins together, as you mount, this also allows you to use your left arm a little more to lift you, as you support yourself from the butt of the lance. he other is to have it in your right hand, and your push off the ground with your right armand swing the butt off the lance around the tail of the horse as you mount. This last method seems to have been depicted in art, but is ratehr tricky in armour, i find. alternatively stick it in the ground, mount, pull it out of the ground. a very reliable horse... you can lean the lance agaisnt the horse and just mount, this is done with garrochas, but it can be risky with mounting and dismounting.
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
if there is a retainer going free. Often a retinue was meant to be combattants themselves. a 'valet' might accompany a group of men-at-arms, but there might be as few as one valet for 3 men-at-arms, or they can be missing altogether. moreover these are often seconded for other duties, like holding the hore of the mounted archers, like they do in the burgundian army, or sent to deliver a message. Staff should be busy. however, if you are changing horses, you might have the valet holld both animals and the lance and then you mount and they hand it up straight away, that is a thing. you just cannot rely on it, as you might very well need to mount by yourself in many situations.
@TrishBlassingame
@TrishBlassingame 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@burebor9940
@burebor9940 2 жыл бұрын
Ey you live :D
@sh36
@sh36 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, at 5'5" I can just barely mount my 16.3hh horse from the ground without armour. I think I will stick to the mounting block for now 😅
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
mounting blocks are a REALLY GOOD IDEA it is a thing in war that you would need to be able to get on your horse, but in the modern times we haave the luxury to not need to do that. Mounting from he ground can be fine, but you do have to get it right, otherwise you might jank the saddle over and all that, so don't sweat and just use a mounting block
@Bubim1
@Bubim1 Жыл бұрын
Hey I just found your channel really interesting stuff. Love the experimental approach. I have a question about the use of the war lance in the late medieval period. We're they a single use item and expected to break or be dropped after a charge? There is a lot of strange and fun stuff in the fechtbücher, but not really anything about what happens after you hit. Would they just break on impact? What if i hit and pierce a soft target. Especially with a couched lance on a lance rest, I can't imagine pulling the lance out of a target like you see in later cavalry drills. Was it just one hit and then move on to sidearm or return and get a new lance?
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
pulling out like in the napoleonic practice can be done but is often very tricky due to the length, weight of the lance and the use of an arrêt potentially. most originals i have seen would difinitely break on impact, despite even the use of langets holding on the head. also we have depictions of riders coming back form a lance chaarge holding up broken lances albeit in 1616 we also read of 'the duke valiantly charged and broke his lance' in descriptions, often frustratingly tha tis literarlly all they tell us. but descriptive accounts of actual use in battle seems to assume you break your lance as you hit. a lot of the more complicated techniques in the fecning treatises allow for retention, like using the butt to hit with or less forcefull thrusts might wound but not get too stuck, especially in more complicated plays, yet many do 'go for broke' with horses powering into one another and the lances will definitely break. also in the fencing treatises is the assumption to quickly transition from lance to sword and potentially to warhammer and dagger as well. so there is that description that you will lose/break your lance in the encounter. when fencing with lances, they often will not hit home and then a repeated attack is very possible, when you have displaced one another and not hit home.
@srinjoyroychoudhury7034
@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 Жыл бұрын
Who made the Bardings? I have have been looking for someone who makes full bardings?
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
isak krogh, with help from Augusto boer bont. the shaffron and crinet were made by roman terechenko and then adjusted by Lars and then again by isak.
@Lokarsh21
@Lokarsh21 2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting, thank you. I do not know if it is something worth testing, or what sort of danger it might entil, but would it be possible to vault on the horse? I seem to recall a source mentioning that a "proper" knight had to be able to mount without touching the stirrup, somewhere... might be misremembering, though. All the same, great and informative content, thank you again!
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
yes that is a mention somewhere as a 'cool thing' and i have had to do it in the past. (100% succes rate!) This horse is the very maximum height of horses of the period, and most warhorses were a little smaller, this would make it just that little bit easier. (every inch adds exponentially more effort to such a vault, especiaally in armour with a hore standing still) the horse might be a little startled, so there is a downside. Vaulting normally uses the movement of the horse as well to help, this makes it much easier to do with larger horses. In armour , however the slipping the torso over saddles and horse is aa really big deal and it seems to be meant to be done with a horse standing still. to some degree it is simpler than first fishing for the stirrup, just more dependent on the jump by the rider and the use of his arms pushing up on the saddle. this is a matter of technique, as sideways pull is pretty uncomfortable for the horse, so you should push yourself straight up from the saddle and then swing your legs around. With the additional weight of the armour this is still quite doable, the flexibility of the armour is a major factor, in that certain positions are important to see just how much strength you need. protrusions like arrêts are a real thing, and they could cause problems so a bit of awareness is really important stirrups are, however widely used in period, they are the norm
@vickielittleton6373
@vickielittleton6373 Жыл бұрын
What about the dismount in armor? Is it possible to vault off or to kick free of both stirrups before one foot huts the ground?
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
we usually have the foot in the stirrup to make sure we clear the saddle with all the parts of the armour, like the fauld and the arrêt, but yes it is possible, and not even that hard. the key is to use your arms to support you over the horse, then swing legs cleaar aand push off from your shoulders and upper arms to clear the horse. in fact practising this can be important as horses can fall and that can be dangerous to be stuck in the saddle.
@TB-qe1bg
@TB-qe1bg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx Arne! There's no reason to mount a horse any other way than you anyway. I always do it like this. Even without armor.
@airnt
@airnt 2 жыл бұрын
i presume the question wasa that people wanted to see if i could do it without a mounting block, because at events we essentially always use aa mounting block. there is some other options, you can also face back aas you put your foot in the stirrup, then turn around as you jump on, as opposed to coming from behind, but i have pretty long points on my sabatons so this makes sense. as you reach for the stirrup with your foot the sabaton points up, so you can tickle the horse and it can step away, but this way it is easy to avoid that. having a lance you need to handle might be a factor, i would prefer to hold those in my left haand with the pommel and the reins, but we do see it done with the lance in the right hand in illuminations. moreover you could vualt without using the stirrup altogether, which is mentioned as a virtue a knight should have. I have only ever done that once in my life, but at least i haave a 100% success rate!
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