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@LeChevalierAnglais 6 күн бұрын

Even a pike block wouldnt stand a chance against a squadron of barded lancers

@airnt Күн бұрын

pike blocks, known at the time as 'gewalthaufen' (violence heaps) were absolutely huge in order to try and withstand them. We are talking about up to 11000 men in a single unit. but there are definitely examples of pikeblocks being pierced by cavalry charges, from bouvines in 1214 to Gavere in the 15th cenutry, and others. yet usually the huge formations were not the main target of cavalry charges, who mostly were concerned with other cavalry. the thing is... several thousand men huddled in a heap... are not necesarily doing anything usefull on the battlefield, so they can be left standing there whilst the cavalry attacks more important objectives. when large formations manage to coordinate attacks, like the swiss did in the burgundian wars it gets much more complicated. but even there the burgundian cavalry attackd in squadron strength im promtu charges and penetrated the pikeblocks, 'and had their hands on the standard' yet they did not defeat the Gewalthaufen and had to retreat and lost the battle. Inpavia the cavakry runs over an infantry block almost by accident, yet retreats after anyway (though that is a flank charge, i think) but yes, pikeblocks could be breached by barded cavalry

@LeChevalierAnglais Күн бұрын

@airnt very interesting! I didn't realise a pike block was so huge... I doubt any squadron sized force could route one of those! I was thinking of a pike and shotte sized pike block (the sort that winged hussars ran down many times) lol. But can I see how effective barding is now

@airnt 23 сағат бұрын

@@LeChevalierAnglais the winged hussars attacks with very large units. a squadron was usually 20-25 riders. Having said that medieval lance charges were often 300 or more riders, but the ideal was often about 1500 at a single charge. Azincourt is a good example, where the French intended to select 1500 riders for the initial charge (before the main assault on foot), but only could find 300 riders in the event. conversely at the battle of Tewkesbury 300 lancers from the woods behind the hillock attacked somerset in the back of his formation and sessntially won the battle.

@LeChevalierAnglais 21 сағат бұрын

@airnt ah I see that the cavalry squadron has varied in size greatly! In more recent times, about 120 men, and in Alexander's era, more like 300. Thanks for the information

@pillepolle3122 10 күн бұрын

How much did the horse armor DLC cost?

@airnt 8 күн бұрын

most of it was a trade, so i paid 1000 and 300 euros I think... the whole project was about.. 8 years?

@Jjjuserjjj 13 күн бұрын

I love your armor and how horse eating things frequently. I also taking photo with horse in 21 century uniform so I'm jerious to you have such a nice horse! patient,calm,and well-trained.

@airnt 8 күн бұрын

thank you very much, i love him dearly

@erynd2524 29 күн бұрын

Wow that’s amazing!

@NoBSSurvival Ай бұрын

Ok weird questions but what accent do you have?

@airnt Ай бұрын

i was born in the netherlands, lived in yorkshire for a while, and currently in germany, but i travel a lot, so my accent shifts with where i have recently been

@sirdrip1313 Ай бұрын

I wonder how they trained horses for battle? I'm guessing they have agressive instincts the could be used? Did they know to seek and chase enemies? Are they in tune with the riders intentions or dis they have to me managed all the time?

@airnt Ай бұрын

we have a few mentions, like training where the infantry first runs away from the horses giving them confidence, there is a lot more to it. you place every hoof all the time, really, as footwork to your martial arts, this is why the dressage is so important

@oscarsalesgirl296 Ай бұрын

Bravo! Giel!

@zekeolopwi6642 Ай бұрын

Underrated video. Why aren't more people running these kinds of tests?

@lscibor Ай бұрын

Well, Isaak Krogh made mail coif, so not very big piece, out of rather big (~8mm ID) rings, and wanted to sell it for 1500 without tax few months ago. Plus very few people make somewhat authentic mail ,so there's lot of waiting. Add in the rest of equipment (never mind horses, like in this particular one) and it's definitely not something easy to organize for everyone.

@notfeedynotlazy 2 ай бұрын

I usually reenact the transition betwen the XIII and XIV centuries (in medieval Castille) and found that if you place a XIII-style integral sword belt over a XIV style plate cuirass, it becomes basically impossible to re-seathe the sword once drawn without doing a complicated series of steps.

@airnt Ай бұрын

the set up can indeed give fairly serious issues. i don't know if there is a good solution. The 14th century corrazina has a fauld, or do you mean a globose breastplate? the plate faulds do come in before 1400 but really become established by 1410 or so.

@notfeedynotlazy Ай бұрын

@@airnt breastplate. And the solution was to put the sword on a new swordbelt (which made me make a SECOND scabbard for the same sword, something I wanted to avoid). Such is life.

@maciekbojarski3624 2 ай бұрын

Great vid. , now I have a visual to what I've been reading in cavalry sources. I've sat on the horse maybe five times in my life, about 30 years ago, this faint memory is what I had to go by. Now seeing your videos (this one is not my first) gives me validation of my understanding and better comprehension of mounted combat and much more insight to cutting technics. For the past 8 years I've been researching Polish fencing tradition, I am reluctant to call it a cross-cut art, because it is only, a part of the whole. After all these years, I still don't know how was it done exactly, but I'm convinced that I know what it was. In general, it was a mounted fencing, (a pink elephant in the room, that all the re-creators, but one, that I know of, are ignoring, in their models of Polish fencing. ) Finally over a year a go I was able to translate, from French, Ivanovski's manual for new system of saber for french cavalry 1834. (Reading Ivanowski gave me a whole new perspective) Since then, I've been piecing together this jigsaw puzzle, in the cohesive system. I am convinced that I can confidently claim that I've understood the underlying principles, and I can feel the flow of movement of the governing mechanics of Iwanowski's system. In other words, I've been swinging that Sabre in the air for over a year now, following Ivanowski's instructions for offensive and defensive technics. So finally I got that eureka moment, "Oooo! That's what he means". Essentuly Ivanowski is saying, to no surprise, everything you are saying in this video, about safety of the horse, impotence of balance, and hand movement shown in the instructional figures. ( because of this video, I understand some of the reasons why he curves the path of the hand ). Studying Ivanovski, and applying the principles, I've noticed discrepancies between drown figures and descriptive text, which creates doubt, in my interpretations and more questions than answers. Even practical applications, with a partner, do not clear the confusion. ( on foot of course) Because the instructions were addressed to a seasoned cavalier, certain aspects, that may be so obvious, escape me. So all of this winded introduction leads me to my question, I am stuck at the point of my limits, I need help to clear some doubts, would it be possible to contact you through other channels of communication, and most importantly, would you be willing to help me with Ivanovski, with some of the questions I have? I understand you may be busy, but I could not pass this opportunity.

@lindabaron4584 2 ай бұрын

This is amazing

@airnt 2 ай бұрын

thank you

@chardelraconner7324 2 ай бұрын

nicole tripping

@chardelraconner7324 2 ай бұрын

listen pedro bosses

@chardelraconner7324 2 ай бұрын

one lense my bouy ; bet

@chardelraconner7324 2 ай бұрын

endless stagecoach perspective

@user-os7kv5uq7f 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙏. I'm new to this channel and am enjoying it immensely. 😊

@Lollipopgirliee 3 ай бұрын

Does anyone know how I can make the tack around the horses face &mane?!!

@airnt 3 ай бұрын

the bridle itself or the shaffron and crinet? the bridle is made of leather strips and attachments with brass plates wrapped around the end and rivetted on (or you could use chicago screws so you can swap bits etc) the steel parts are much more involved. those are cut from 1 mm C45 carbon steel sheet, then heated with a gas torch and forged with hammer and anvil into complex shapes, polished and deburred... lining fashioned form padded linen, straps of leather, buckles hand made... so that is quite involved. the fitting is really critical. this crinet is a series of ball joints, so particularly complex and sophisticated. or did i misunderstand the question altogether?

@tatumergo3931 3 ай бұрын

I have to comment, an excellent dominion of the horse.

@airnt 3 ай бұрын

interesting choice of words. Thank you ,though!

@tatumergo3931 3 ай бұрын

@@airnt . Sir you're a Jinete, you could compare with the best Rejoneros out there. You're welcome!

@savannahblaize9394 4 ай бұрын

Bonjour en quoi est faite l'armure du cheval en quel matériau ?

@airnt 4 ай бұрын

C45 steel, Shaffron: Roman Tereschenko, Armure: Isak Krogh

@nut4663 4 ай бұрын

What are the measurements of this pollaxe? Specifically the spear, hammer, and beak

@airnt 4 ай бұрын

the beak/hammer was forged from 20x20 mm stock, the beak is now 115 mm, hammer 85 mm and the dague 160 mm long

@nut4663 4 ай бұрын

@@airntThank you!! I'm ordering a pollaxe to be made for me and I was looking for references to decide what size I want the parts to be. This is very helpful.

@airnt 4 ай бұрын

@@nut4663 when i designed this it was the longest beak i could find on an original, though i found a longer one since, most are, in fact, smaller

@nut4663 4 ай бұрын

@@airnt I was thinking like somewhere around 100mm anyway

@gorbalsboy 5 ай бұрын

Much like using a buckler in that you push towards their centre thus creating a greater cone a defence as opposed to sideways which allows them to disengage,great explanation,luv how you focus on concepts and tactics 😊

@ArmourArtist 5 ай бұрын

or what if you were not planning on riding a horse that day?

@ArmourArtist 5 ай бұрын

Can we get one with a built in wheel-lock? asking for a friend. ;)

@yannyyansen9743 5 ай бұрын

Nowhere near a full bard. Maximilian is rolling in his elaborate sepulcher...

@airnt 5 ай бұрын

are you referring to the thun scetchbuch version with the whole leg armour? It is somewhat questionable if that one was ever built, and even if it was it was not typical at all, but a one off. 'full bards' are considered in period distinct from 'half bards' yet we know they did not have to have every concievable element to be considered 'full bards' Especialy Flanchards are often omitted in period. The whole system is a modular set that can be used as needed. Especially crinets add a lot of weight and complexity and not that much added protection, and are often omitted. making a choice on that matter might also be a question how much work the horse needs to do and if tiring its' head posture prematurely might be more detrimental than the protection afforded.

@TheMichaellathrop 5 ай бұрын

So what I want to know is how much difference would those three layers of mail + period underlayers make if someone were to knee you in the groin while they were in a plate leg harness? Yes the question assumes you have either be unhorsed or are engaging in foot combat to begin with, but the most famous codpiece I know of was Henry the 8ths from his unused field of cloth of gold foot armor.

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

One of the things we failed to see today is the type of clothing that was worn underneath the armour. Modern clothes don't allow for the same type of comfort, as clothing from the time period. For example a loincloth tends to wrap and hold those parts closer and more tightly to the body, than modern boxer shorts or briefs do. Modern leggings of today are also a very poor representation of braies of the age.

@airnt 5 ай бұрын

i was wearing medieval woolen hose, and medieval shoes, i used a lendenier to suspend it, as per historical practice, i wore modern clothes on the upper body, and a t-shirt under the curass, indeed. but that really doesn't change the functioning of the piece.

@freifechterbasel6115 5 ай бұрын

This looks like it would work on the streets. Could you ride a motorbike in your harness?

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

George A. Romero's 1981 Knightriders, that was a fun film.

@andyedwards9222 5 ай бұрын

Excellent video, very interesting. Am I going to rush out and upgrade my harness? Probably not.

@Specter_1125 5 ай бұрын

Now the ones that could make riding more difficult, are the ones that really… emphasize the anatomy down there.

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

Like the types we find in Henry VIII armour and later 16th century?

@dequitem 5 ай бұрын

Interesting. I never thought about it 😅

@tatumergo3931 3 ай бұрын

Henry Angelo wrote in the 19th century a treatise for fencing on horseback. It's an excellent and simplified method to start the basics of wielding the sword while mounted. Pretty much exactly what it's been explained in this video... The Angelo's manual even goes as further to show the ideal position of the mount as cuts and defenses are delivered and received. Technically what I got from Angelo's work was that the rider and the mount, must become one. Both the rider and the horse are the fencer, the horse or mount taking the part of the legs and the rider the arms. Basically becoming a centaur! Thus the horse or mount must also be trained in fencing.... P. S. The idea of a horse becoming a master fencer is so comical, but yet it is also so true. 😅😅😅

@JacksonTutchenerEllis 5 ай бұрын

Great video, Arne.

@DanielPopeScholarVictoria 5 ай бұрын

I have honestly never considered the interaction with the saddle, and the effect on riding. Fascinating.

@ivarmh 5 ай бұрын

Well done!

@theghosthero6173 5 ай бұрын

Always been fascinated by these, glad to see it made and worn

@corrugatedcavalier5266 5 ай бұрын

Great video! I've always wondered about the interaction when riding.

@texasbeast239 5 ай бұрын

Plink-plink-plink-plink-plink-plink-plink

@charlesault5434 5 ай бұрын

Very cool video! Do you have any thoughts on why codpieces went from being rare in the 15th century to quite common and prominent by the 16th century?

@coop5329 5 ай бұрын

Appears it may have just been for fashion.

@PJDAltamirus0425 5 ай бұрын

@@coop5329 .......Black Death and the middle class. People were less concerned about being vulgar because following the teachings of the catholic church failed to there family from dieing from the plague and from them falling ill. Middle class want to assert their new social class, set them apart from the lower class and give the social middle finger to the nobility.

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

The simplest sophomoric answer is Sex, they were having more Sex. As PJDAltamirus mentioned the Black plague decimated quite a lot of the population. Entire cities and towns ended up empty or nearly empty, the few survivors just wanted to celebrate life and being alive. The strict securalistic morals of the past were no longer accepted or care for. It was one of the reasons for the beginning of the Renaissance, an explosion in arts and sciences which gave us all those works of art which depicted the naked human body. An exploration into the study of human anatomy and new philosophical and theological ideas.

@bunhelsingslegacy3549 5 ай бұрын

I keep threatening to make my husband a plate codpiece in the armour shop, but it would be for show (and the fun of making it), it wouldn't be for fighting. The last thing I imagine you'd want is to be hit in a codpiece that's not quite in the right place as you're moving around because in all our fantasy armour experiments, nothing wants to stay between the legs like that, I feel like it would risk either pinching things you'd rather not get pinched while you're moving in general or concentrating pressure somewhere you'd really rather not have concentrated pressure when struck... In our fight group, anyone who wants groin protection wears a standard cup underneath everything. And most of us have articulating faulds that go down pretty low too, and some of the bigger gambesons are long enough to offer some protection. Some wear chain voiders, some don't, if we used sharp swords I'd have a lot more chain on my plate than I do, but we work with rebated stage blades because we like re-useable opponents... We always assumed for cavlary, the saddle would protect the groin, I would worry about chafing wearing a codpiece on a saddle... but then I personally get chafing and bruises from anything that's not breeches or chaps between me and a saddle (only wore my armour on a horse once for a 5 minute pony ride, though I rode horses for about 30 years) and I wouldn't wear a codpiece anyways because groin hits are less of a concern when your, uh, personal equippment is ...uh, internal :P (not that they're zero concern, I have been dropped to my knees in martial arts when I ran into a knee at high velocity, bruised pubic bones aren't much fun either). Thaks for a fun video!

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

First off let me say that's a lot of bunny videos. I was expecting to see more about an armour shop, or something related to LARPping and HEMA. An example of you can never judge a book by its cover. On the topic, yeah the human anatomy is difficult to understand, we still today have difficulty in making the correct type of protection equipment. Also with clothing when you are trying to balance between comfort and being fashionable. I personally have experience it from a military and martial arts perspective, and it was always a situation of deciding whether to be comfortable or having the extra protection. The weather was another factor that would play a significant role in making those decisions sometimes, but not always. There's also a curve time period in which you just have to adapt and get used to it. That was the hardest part.

@bunhelsingslegacy3549 5 ай бұрын

@@tatumergo3931 Heh, yeah, my channel doesn't represent all my interests, just the fluffy one who doesn't care about video editing. My husband and I started doing armouring and armoured fighting about fifteen years ago and took over the armouring part of the shop after our mentor passed away from cancer. We usually end up doing our demonstrations in hot weather (where you learn real fast not tl leave steel armour in the sun) but now and then we get to enjoy a cool day for a demonstration, and once I even had to put a heat pack in my gambeson before putting on armour that had been in my below-freezing garage for one winter engagement. But on the balance between comfort and protection, I find that pops up in most aspects of my life. I wear steel toed boots to work all the time, even when I'm just cleaning a building, I never wear shorts to work or to the garden because I need that extra armour point from cloth, I never failed to wear a helmet on my horse, I always belt up in the car and I always wear a full bee suit when I'm out in the apiary. I wear an underwire bra to Aikido to aovid bruised sideboob from being pinned even though I generally can't stand the things othewise. I wear prescription lenses so often don't bother with safety glasses except in the metal shop or when using power tools. I wear a respirator when I clean the rabbit pen (allergies). It's all a matter of weighing risk vs comfort, but with armour, one of my friends likes to say, when you first start fighting you armour EVERYTHING, then as you realize what does and doesn't get hit, you start removing armour until you start getting hit again, then you add it back :) Same friend always wears a cup after getting nutted by a mace in an SCA event. As an example, I'd feel perfectly comfortable fighting without my breastplate/backplate on if it wasn't holding up other pieces of my armour, literally the only dents on my breastplate are from the "look how hard he can hit me and I don't feel a thing" part of our demonstrations. And I added lames to my half-gauntlets after getting the sides of my knuckles pinched off by sword strikes more than once. Generally now the only bruises I get are from carrying my armour to the venue :)

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 . Aikido!? Yeah I remember Aikido, I used to get more hurt there than when I was doing judo or karate-do. Some people just don't know how to be a good uke and flow....

@bunhelsingslegacy3549 5 ай бұрын

@@tatumergo3931 Some dojos are "harder" than others, ours aims to be on the softer side, we're very much "blend, don't block". Most of the injuries I've sustained in Aikido have been from my own lack of awareness of where my body is, like dropping my uke directly onto my big toe, or landing a breakfall where I am throwing myself, not being thrown, on the point of my shoulder, I'm just glad my mistakes only hurt me and not someone else. Though with my hypermobile joints I do have to remind some people that I don't have much warning zone between "OK" and "VERY NOT OK!" and to please go slow on any joint locks. And I'm really hesitant to work with peoole I don't know at seminars, had some bad experiences with people using force instead of skill. The class I was teaching last night, I was making everyone channel their inner noodle, do not resist, if you don't resist you don't give them anything to work with and they just melt, I even got through to some of the really strong rigid types and we were all having fun trying to be strong as uke when the nage was not!

@tatumergo3931 5 ай бұрын

@@bunhelsingslegacy3549. Ha ha yeah it's always the white belts that are the most dangerous...

@ren-uz2mz 7 ай бұрын

How wonderful to see this, (and need to find more videos) but you clearly care so much about your horse being happy with his work!

@alisav8394 8 ай бұрын

Looks cool, however there was a veterinary article that showed that horses begin to struggle when the weight of the rider and the tack exceeds 25% of the horses weight. I'm pretty sure the rider and the armour here exceed that. EDIT: Take a look at his answer in the comments, the total weight is actually within the limits!

@airnt 8 ай бұрын

the actual numbers: rider armour 25,1 kg (in this configuration) sword: 1,5 kg Lance: 2 kg saddle 5 kg Horse armour 15,6 kg (the tailguard was omitted here and that adds 2,3 kg) (i mistakingly stated the weight INCLUDING The taildragon in the description, will edit in a moment) rider 78 kg total 128,2 kg horse weighs 521 kg as per veterinarians scales. This constitutes 24,6% which study are you referring to? they mostly show 29 or 30 % but most studies are extremely low number cohorts, have very questionable methodology (like only studying two quarter horses that suffer from navicular, for instance) and '29' might be a bit optimistic as a conclusion where 2 significant numbers is very questionable, hence that would really be 30% as well. most (if not none) do not actually measure that percentage as such, but something else and only refer to this percentage indirectly inthe conclusion... very few studies even weigh the animals in the study.. so it is hard to state a percentage of an unknown (estimated) number with such accuracy. 25 or 30% is a massive practical difference. There IS a study that merely measures effort, as opposed to proxies for distress or damage etc. The effort is evident at a lower level of burden, but effort is not a cause for shying away from the work. The Japanese study actually claims that 48% is still ok, in fact (not sure if i would want to go that far, but that is what they say). Anyway it is pretty darned cclose but not exceeding the 25% even when counting the saddle, shabrak, sword incl scabbard, underclothing of the rider, etc... i literally weighed all of it.

@alisav8394 7 ай бұрын

@@airntthanks for the answer. I have to say I expected a larger total weight. You might be right about it being ~30% and I agree that 48% is definitely too much. Sorry for the quick judgement, I'll make sure I edit my comment so other viewers can learn.

@knightforlorn6731 9 ай бұрын

amazing and tremendous

@kkupsky6321 9 ай бұрын

I was soooo worried the lady would run outta cookies haha. Good sport this. I’d be terrified and hope I had a very long point implements if he came running at me…

@A_Medieval_Shadow 9 ай бұрын

This video was cooler than I thought it would be👍

@romanista77 10 ай бұрын

Very interesting!

@rescue00751 10 ай бұрын

Sir, you look great. Please, who made that wonderful armor for you both? It’s unbelievable great. Thanks for this video.

@airnt 10 ай бұрын

it is a conglomerate of many armourers, the main armourer for the bard was Isak Krogh, but elements were built and adjusted by Roman tereschenko, Lars and Augusto Boer Bront. the armour for the man is mostly historic enterprizes, but i have new pieces from Peter Spätling, Craig Sitch, Roman Tereschenko and Luke binks.

@MikeWhiskey427 11 ай бұрын

Max was pretty big hearted trying all that without a fit! This looked like a lot of fun. Interesting about riding with your seat and leg yields as in western its pretty common, guess I figured everyone does. Awesome video! Glad yt offered it and following! We have a Clyde and Gypsy Drum that has the build that begs full barding lol Probably not historically correct but fun thought anyway. Thanks again!

@airnt 11 ай бұрын

yeah the neck rein with a crinet is pretty annoying, but we use a lot of shoulder in, travers and renvers in training horses, obviously a good warhorse was expected to do canter pirouettes and various two-time gallops.

@cleverusername9369 11 ай бұрын

Magnificent. Simply magnificent

@airnt 11 ай бұрын

thank you very much, i hope some more footage will come out of the september event with several horse armours in a line abreast, charging

@APSHEK Жыл бұрын

Would the scabbard ever be hung from the saddle instead of the rider?

@airnt Жыл бұрын

i know of ONE example: Charles the Bold in a red overgown on the worst drawn horse in Christendom. yet he is wearing one sword and has a second one on the pomnmel of his saddle. ('Saddle sword' is mentioned in other places) i might have missed other examples. we do it regularly out of lazyness with swords in training, the ties to tie the stirrups up (which is historical) at the back og the tree can be used to put a sword though, but when you draw the sword the scabbard needs to be secured. it seems very much preferred to have a sword on the belt and a warhammer on the saddle, stuck with the handle through a ring on the front of the pommel.

@eddierudolph8702 Жыл бұрын

I wonder what the cost difference of leather barbing, as well as body heat retention and protection when compared to steal barbing like that.

@andras8911 Жыл бұрын

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@ztakahashiyang Жыл бұрын

this is beautiful. thanks for sharing!

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