Mr. Plinkett's Star Trek: First Contact Review - HD Remaster

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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:36 - 1. The entire plot doesn't make any sense.
03:37 - 2. Why is Picard uninvited to the Borg Battle?
05:10 - 3. Deep Space Nine Sends the B-Team to Defend Earth
06:10 - 4. The Defiant gets special preference
06:40 - 5. Sloppy Writing and Vague Assumptions
08:01 - 6. Picard tells the computer to make them clothes
08:37 - 7. Violating the Temporal Prime Directive
09:42 - 8. More blatent time line altering violations
11:26 - 9. A Tale of Two Picards
15:31 - 10. Borg and Doors
16:39 - 11. Quick One Line Cover-Ups
19:36 - 12. Picard's lack of concern for his crew members
23:11 - 13. The Holodeck scene doesn't make any sense
24:35 - 14. A Room with a View?
27:35 - 15. A Bunch of Random Shit That Makes No Sense
30:27 - 16. Everything That Happens in the End Makes No Sense
36:42 - The End
Sources:
Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home (1986)
Star Trek VII - Generations (1994)
Star Trek VIII - First Contact (1996)
Star Trek IX - Insurrection (1998)
Star Trek X - Nemesis (2002)
Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994):
S1E03 - The Naked Now
S1E23 - Skin of Evil
S2E01 - The Child
S2E02 - Where Silence Has Lease
S2E03 - Elementary, Dear Data
S2E13 - Time Squared
S2E14 - The Icarus Factor
S2E16 - Q Who?
S2E19 - Manhunt
S3E08 - The Price
S3E11 - The Hunted
S3E26-S4E01 - The Best of Both Worlds
S4E06 - Legacy
S4E20 - Qpid
S4E21 - The Drumhead
S4E25 - In Theory
S5E04 - Silicon Avatar
S5E05 - Disaster
S5E23 - I, Borg
S6E09 - The Quality of Life
S6E19 - Lessons
S6E25 - Timescape
S6E26 - Descent (1)
S7E15 - Lower Decks
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993-1999):
S3E01 - The Search, Part I
S4E01 - The Way of the Warrior, Part I
S5E13 - For the Uniform
S5E16 - Doctor Bashir, I Presume
S6E02 - Rocks and Shoals
S6E06 - Sacrifice of Angels
S7E04 - Take Me Out to the Holosuite
Star Trek: Voyager (1995-2001):
S3E17 - Unity
S5E02 - Drone
S6E02 - Survival Instinct
S6E19 - Child's Play
Original audio track from Mr. Plinkett's review is used unmodified.
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@colonelquack
@colonelquack 3 жыл бұрын
And suddenly Worf has a purple space bazooka.
@TerrenceNowicki
@TerrenceNowicki 3 жыл бұрын
"Purple space bazooka" was Jadzia Dax's pet name for Worf's dick.
@samevan4057
@samevan4057 3 жыл бұрын
A tip : you can watch movies at Flixzone. Been using them for watching a lot of movies recently.
@karterdraven3336
@karterdraven3336 3 жыл бұрын
@Sam Evan yup, I have been watching on Flixzone} for months myself =)
@brandonadams4273
@brandonadams4273 2 жыл бұрын
@@TerrenceNowicki Which one?
@MichaelXX2
@MichaelXX2 2 жыл бұрын
28:44
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 2 жыл бұрын
This is like a warm blanket. I DID see First contact in theaters with my dad and enjoyed it as a kid.
@Silphage
@Silphage Жыл бұрын
The distorted voice on violent Picard still gets me 12 years later. 🤣
@camschuster5947
@camschuster5947 8 ай бұрын
Jesus, I have never laughed harder in my life when he says “Get Out in the deep voice!”😂
@johnwalton8359
@johnwalton8359 7 ай бұрын
AND IIIII WILL MAKE THEM PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE!@@camschuster5947
@Dazcoolman
@Dazcoolman Ай бұрын
It took 12 years!!!
@Ashanmaril
@Ashanmaril Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe he didn’t even mention when Dr Cochrane dropped the line: “you’re all astronauts… on some kind of star trek!”
@horaciosi
@horaciosi Жыл бұрын
I had to be rushed to the hospital for all the muscles I'd torn for cringing at that line.
@imfsresidentotaku9699
@imfsresidentotaku9699 Жыл бұрын
@@horaciosi If THAT makes you cringe that hard, then you must've been hospitalized half your life, considering that even the most inconsequential details must make you cringe. Don't blame the line for your preexisting condition.
@Chromeberd
@Chromeberd Жыл бұрын
@@imfsresidentotaku9699 No he's right. Many were rushed to the infirmary after that line. It's objectively worse than the death of a close family member.
@gwynevans6440
@gwynevans6440 Жыл бұрын
@@Chromeberd Was about to argue with this, but it's objective so I can't. Sorry for your loss. x
@IVANxVx
@IVANxVx Жыл бұрын
Bravo Frakes
@clancysmith4540
@clancysmith4540 Жыл бұрын
“Clothes? What? Who said that? Do you need SHOES?” That entire segment may be the funniest thing I’ve ever heard Plinkett say.
@Peaceforall20111
@Peaceforall20111 Ай бұрын
For me, the best segment wasn’t his disgusting shooting the tanks and engineering. I almost pissed myself with the close-ups of. Security guard
@lunaticfringe8066
@lunaticfringe8066 3 жыл бұрын
I've got it! The room that Picard took Lily to is the only place on the ship the rest of the crew would allow him to practice his godawful flute playing without inciting a mutiny.
@IblameBlame
@IblameBlame 3 жыл бұрын
True dat: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc93n7mGyNLNgn0.html Although I think he didn't bother taking the Ressikan flute with him from the Enterprise-D's wreckage. He also threw away the Kurlan Naikos.
@lunaticfringe8066
@lunaticfringe8066 3 жыл бұрын
@@IblameBlame Thanks for the video Blame, it was hilarious! I needed a good laugh.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
@@IblameBlame ... the Kurgan Nachos? But what else is he going to eat?
@IblameBlame
@IblameBlame 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealNormanBates why, the children of the Enterprise's crew of course.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
@@IblameBlame 🤣🤣🤣😱
@OneFinalTipple
@OneFinalTipple 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to Star Trek Picard, First Contact is fricking amazing. [EDIT: Picard season 3 is AWESOME!]
@the81kid
@the81kid 3 жыл бұрын
It's the new Nu-Trek production plan: make each new iteration even more terrible than the last, so that the previous installment actually starts to look good in comparison, then fans start feeling nostalgic for the good old days when Trek didn't suck quite so much, and... voila! you've made your terrible movie liked by Star Trek fans! Now repeat.
@heyitsmikegaming
@heyitsmikegaming 3 жыл бұрын
Picard is a dog turd. A dog turd is amazing compared to picadd
@OneFinalTipple
@OneFinalTipple 3 жыл бұрын
@Siren I think it was almost arrogance on the part of the writers, maybe even Patrick Stewart. Sigh, Stewart and the character Picard are heroes of mine, but STP completely ruined both of them for me. How can such poor writing and poor character interactions ever make it onto the screen?????
@lordkayx
@lordkayx 3 жыл бұрын
!00000% AGREED!!!!!! Picard was not only not Trek, it wasnt even a good show.
@W00KER
@W00KER 3 жыл бұрын
@Siren I blame Stewart too, they couldn't have done this without him. He should have raised objections.
@ONeilTD
@ONeilTD 3 жыл бұрын
The scene with the Vulcans at the end makes this movie feel way better than it actually is.
@Charon.1
@Charon.1 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fact that they managed to pull such a heartwarming, optimistic scene up after two hours of brainless action and violence. It's more than Kurtzman could ever do
@Restitutor_Orbis_214
@Restitutor_Orbis_214 Жыл бұрын
That was the most Star Trek scene in the entire movie.
@itsd0nk
@itsd0nk 3 жыл бұрын
"This is ensign Lynch." /immediately starts digging around inside his disemboweled torso Lmfao. Always love the editing. So smart lol.
@horaciosi
@horaciosi Жыл бұрын
If Ensign Lynch was assimilated anyways, what was the point of Picard shooting him? It was nothing more than just forced drama.
@benhaney5843
@benhaney5843 3 жыл бұрын
They should crash the Enterprise into the Borg cube at warp 9. Don't remember where I've seen that maneuver done before but it seems a good idea...
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad the Picard Maneuver already refers to other things. Anyway I have a feeling what you're suggesting would be a one in a million kind of thing...
@sernoddicusthegallant6986
@sernoddicusthegallant6986 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesully110 Sounds more like that would be a Worf manuver than a Picard one
@At0m1337
@At0m1337 3 жыл бұрын
That purple haired lesbian did it the last jedi
@TheGamerThing
@TheGamerThing 3 жыл бұрын
@@At0m1337 any reference to her being lesbian?
@georgecaceres880
@georgecaceres880 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGamerThing yeah. Purple hair
@artificialavocado9652
@artificialavocado9652 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for my pizza rolls for like 9 fucking years.
@MarcFaucher-ny7zj
@MarcFaucher-ny7zj Ай бұрын
I got them six months ago. They were delicious.
@jeff91482
@jeff91482 4 жыл бұрын
Is it too late to request a pizza roll?
@jpetras16
@jpetras16 3 жыл бұрын
Make that two, please
@richardmoores
@richardmoores 3 жыл бұрын
Make it three
@universome511
@universome511 3 жыл бұрын
I hope not
@yesman9792
@yesman9792 3 жыл бұрын
Never too late friends.
@LiveFreeOrDieDH
@LiveFreeOrDieDH 3 жыл бұрын
damn. now I want a pizza roll too
@RenePeraza
@RenePeraza 3 жыл бұрын
'Tale of Two Picard' Indeed! I've always felt the first few film Picards almost ignored any personal growth he'd gained in the series. As much as I enjoy the films, it always stands out to me. BUT, another perspective is that he's fed up with 'by the book!'
@Trollificusv2
@Trollificusv2 3 жыл бұрын
Another possibility is that Patrick Stewart is a dimwit with good posture and a great accent.
@obscure.reference
@obscure.reference 2 жыл бұрын
Zeke Spears Patrick Steward in this film made the writers give him Riker’s plot aboard the ship, so it’s more than safe to blame him.
@GavinScrimgeour
@GavinScrimgeour Ай бұрын
Paddy wanted Picard to become an action hero using the films as his means.
@pineutrino
@pineutrino 3 жыл бұрын
9:20 It's only just now that I've noticed the movie's foley artist used the exact same gunfire sounds for both Lily's gun and Picard's holodeck tommy gun.
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 3 жыл бұрын
Are you still a foley artist if you're just dragging in sound effects from a CD-ROM?
@GigaBoost
@GigaBoost Жыл бұрын
@@Nukle0n brutal
@the81kid
@the81kid Жыл бұрын
@@Nukle0n "Are you still a foley artist if you're just dragging in sound effects from a CD-ROM?" I'll let you decide. But the answer is yes.
@alexs_toy_barn
@alexs_toy_barn 8 ай бұрын
I listened to them both and im not convinced that they're the same sound effect, they both just sound like gunfire, and that always sounds the same
@hydra_lisk
@hydra_lisk 4 ай бұрын
​@alexs_toy_barn it's definitely the same sound. Different guns sound different
@zardox78
@zardox78 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that whole "They won't attack until they consider us a threat" thing became more and more senseless and inconsistent with the passage of time. They only invented that rule in Q-Who? to give the away team (and us) a chance to look inside the Borg ship. Otherwise that scene just wouldn't have worked. But after that, the rule they'd established just became increasingly less convenient, especially once drones were suddenly capable of assimilating people on the spot. First it became more of a guideline than a rule, and eventually it seems like it was pretty much forgotten... unless it was suddenly convenient again.
@ksw33n3y
@ksw33n3y 3 жыл бұрын
By no means am I an expert on ST but couldn’t you assume once the Borg assimilated it’s first star fleet human it added them to their database and proceeded to seek them out using force in the future?
@StykeWarden
@StykeWarden 3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have rubber pipes hanging off their face if you want to go by realism.
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go Жыл бұрын
If being assimilated is a step-by-step procedure as it was shown in best of both worlds, well frankly that's scarier and more horror. And more similar to the Cybermen which the Borg are clearly inspired by. Instant assimilation just doesn't seem as good from a writing perspective. Like sometimes as a Storyteller you want your protagonists as well as antagonists to lack certain advantages because you're trying to tell a good story.
@BioGoji-zm5ph
@BioGoji-zm5ph 3 жыл бұрын
The window room is clearly a room reserved for maintenance crew when they need some "Private" time alone or with other people they find attractive.
@schlaackmusic
@schlaackmusic 3 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame that the only time we see the Defiant actually face a Borg cube it gets it's ass kicked. I still love this movie, but Goddamn.
@falkenvir
@falkenvir 3 жыл бұрын
Considering it was Borqg Queen's Cube, it was basically a flagship. Defiant surviving that is basically a miracle on it self as the previous Federation flagship was destroyed already.
@Amargosa2006
@Amargosa2006 3 жыл бұрын
The Defiant is only of only a few ships causing damage, the others aren’t even scratching the cube. Also, Sisko says the Defiant was supposed to be PART of a battle fleet, so I always pictured 50 of them going against a cube
@MisterMacross
@MisterMacross 2 жыл бұрын
@@falkenvir I hate the idea that there's a borg "queen" and that she'd have a "flagship."
@nagger8216
@nagger8216 Жыл бұрын
Considering the Defiant got its ass kicked all the time, it's really not that surprising
@tripletap007
@tripletap007 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, how are you doing these?! It's not just an upscaler, right? Are you going back and recutting everything from scratch?! This is insanely impressive!!
@CopterBlue
@CopterBlue 4 жыл бұрын
It is all recut. It should be frame for frame the same as the original or maybe equivalent for 16x9 composition. I have to redo effects and try to find the highest quality version of any images used with Tineye or google image search.
@tripletap007
@tripletap007 4 жыл бұрын
@@CopterBlue In all honesty, this is the most impressive thing I've seen on youtube in years. Solid, solid work!!
@DarylDevine
@DarylDevine 3 жыл бұрын
Man's using his lockdown time well.
@nagualdesign
@nagualdesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@CopterBlue Impressive work. Thank you!
@dtown-fi5xs
@dtown-fi5xs 2 жыл бұрын
The Lord’s Work
@shanehudson3995
@shanehudson3995 3 жыл бұрын
There are THREE Picards!
@elenaalbescu9798
@elenaalbescu9798 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, you absolute legend!
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 3 жыл бұрын
Why did the plasma coolant and the tanks suddenly turn green when the Borg assimilated it? Did they put a plastic decal over the tanks or put dye in the coolant like the Chicago River on St. Patrick's Day?
@mouse059
@mouse059 Жыл бұрын
Hey @Jason Fischer, let me ask you a question.. If they can dye that river green on St Patrick's Day, why can't they dye it blue the other three hundred sixty four days of the year?
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 Жыл бұрын
@@mouse059 They probably can, but it would be stupid to do it, just like it's stupid to dye it green.
@mouse059
@mouse059 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonfischer8946 ah.. it's a line from the fugitive (1993) rofl
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle Жыл бұрын
Why green dye when yellow mixed with the blue from light refraction would still occur? Just get a few thousand dogs that drank water a vouplr hours earlier and place them at the embankment?
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle Жыл бұрын
Also. The Borg used a more efficient and perfect grade of coolant. Where they got it from is the same thin air as where they got all the other Borg technology. Those Replicator panels don't look large enough to do anything efficiently. Unless there's a big Replicator room that's never been mentioned in all 9000 Trek episodes from the 80s and 90s. 🤪
@SammEater
@SammEater 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a soft spot for this movie because it was First Contact that introduced me to the TNG era Star Trek, at that point I was only familiar with the original series.
@cyrollan
@cyrollan 2 жыл бұрын
If there was no existing lore to continually violate, this is a fantastic scifi action epic.
@SammEater
@SammEater 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyrollan Yeah, as a standalone movie it works fine.
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle Жыл бұрын
​​@@cyrollan some plot holes, hokey vague and overblown dialogue narrative, and plot problems would remain. How many of those would dampen enjoyment would be up to the individual.
@hamza7518
@hamza7518 Жыл бұрын
I'd probably be the same, but fortunately/unfortunately, I was exposed to First Contact after watching all 7 seasons of TNG so I literally could not stomach the movie.
@TheDeadAlewives
@TheDeadAlewives 3 жыл бұрын
Wow dude. Great job on remastering this. Hopefully RLM themselves have seen this and given you a shout out.
@damonherrera6303
@damonherrera6303 3 жыл бұрын
amazing work. I can't imagine trying to gather all of the clips from the various episodes.
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 11 ай бұрын
The diversion actually makes sense because you can see people still climbing into the Jeffries tube while she's talking, so she's not just wasting time. She gets in right after the last person goes in.
@crossstitchmatches
@crossstitchmatches 2 ай бұрын
Then she didn't need the diversion.
@jasonfischer8946
@jasonfischer8946 2 ай бұрын
@@crossstitchmatches Sure she does. It will slow down the pursuit of the Borg looking for them.
@spitalul2bad
@spitalul2bad 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this is happening! Keep going!
@interstellarartois
@interstellarartois 3 жыл бұрын
Damn it! I hate it when people show me how movies that I actually like are a bit crap and not as good as I thought they were. Not to get too scientific but the point you made about the moons gravitational field obscuring the enterprise’s warp signature got me wondering why Saturn and Jupiter’s much larger gravitational influence don’t obscure any and all warp signatures?!?!
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 8 ай бұрын
15:20 "That's right honey pie, work that business!" Lol dead
@bokkanb8209
@bokkanb8209 4 жыл бұрын
holy crap this is awesome. how is this channel not more popular. Fantastic job.. I really hope you'll be able to get to Revenge of the Sith soon.
@aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa
@aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa 3 жыл бұрын
So then worf suddenly has a purple space bazooka...
@seancondon5572
@seancondon5572 3 жыл бұрын
27:20 - it seems plausible, to me at least, that the blast door could be opened to allow for tubes carrying vital materials such as the flesh-melting plasma coolant to be safely loaded into the ship. This would mean that the fill valves would be secure behind a blast door so they can't be easily targeted. As for why they wouldn't load it through the cargo bay, it makes a bit more sense to use a small room for that purpose as it would be less strain on ship systems to repressurize a small room rather han a giant cargo bay.
@Mogget01
@Mogget01 3 жыл бұрын
Either Picard still has a borg implant inside his brain, or he is just straight up missing a part of his brain. It was stated in an episode of TNG that the federation can’t replicate brain tissue, they are currently only able to replace dying brain matter with cybernetic replacements. Doing that to replace a borg implant would be counterintuitive and reckless.
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s inconsistent. Picard is unassimilated and loses all the implants on his face after The Best of Both Worlds, but Seven of Nine doesn’t.
@obscure.reference
@obscure.reference 2 жыл бұрын
Delta Assault I don’t know anything about seven of nine but could it have something to do with the fact that Picard was only assimilated for a couple of days?
@Mogget01
@Mogget01 2 жыл бұрын
7 of 9 doesn’t count. It’s specifically stated that she is a conglomerate of 20+ personalities that happened to have been occupying the drone at the time that it was separated from the collective. Anika is only the body and a small part of the personality of 7. She’s not Anika, as she states several times, she is borg.
@Restitutor_Orbis_214
@Restitutor_Orbis_214 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it makes sense if you think of it as Picard still in the Nexus. It explains away all plot inconsistencies and even removes the pointless death of Captain Kirk. All Star Trek since 1994 is simply Picard in the Nexus!! Ronald D. Moore is a genius!!!!!!
@sumsriv
@sumsriv 4 жыл бұрын
I just found these! Soooo good! Thank you for your awesome work!
@cytorakdemon
@cytorakdemon 3 жыл бұрын
My own personal theory as to why Picard in First Contact is so unstable around the Borg is because the Borg "voices" he's hear are influencing him. And the reason why Picard wasn't affected in Descent was because those Borg weren't part of the Collective.
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 3 жыл бұрын
The writers were not that clever.
@Restitutor_Orbis_214
@Restitutor_Orbis_214 Жыл бұрын
@@ricardocantoral7672 Hey, Ronald D. Moore is a genius. He defanged the Klingons and made them a joke in TNG and broke his own rules to end his own show, Battlestar Galactica.
@augustday9483
@augustday9483 7 ай бұрын
Did they ever explain how Picard is able to hear Borg voices? Like, this is supposed to be Star Trek, you can't just pull out some magic BS like that. Did he still have borg implants or something? Wtf? I haven't watched this movie in decades so I don't remember if it had an explanation.
@Dekline25
@Dekline25 4 ай бұрын
Watch star trek Picard S3 to find out@@augustday9483
@magesentron
@magesentron 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to throw a theory out there. I think the reason the Borg's plan doesn't make sense in the old sense of how the Borg operate is because the Borg are testing, experimenting with something they adapted from Starfleet, command structure. They invented the Borg Queen as a "Captain" of sorts and the reason they only sent one Cube to Earth and it happened to have this "Queen" on it was to test her effectiveness in the same way the Borg test everything. Starfleet had be regularly handing the Borg their asses in combat so I'd guess they're trying out and experimenting with these ideas of command structures because of how effective the UFP seemed to be against their cubes. So to me, First Contact was the first time the Borg tried out a new strategy to assimilate the UFP but it was flawed because they focused on Data and had no idea Data would remain loyal, a trait that's still unfamiliar to them. (Remember the Queen even mentioned "human traits" to Data, so they're obviously studying them) Notice how confused Data was at the Borg having a "Queen" and how easily he defeated her by simply lying to her. I think she was genuinely a prototype of an idea. When Janeway encountered her, I think it was mostly just fanservice but I also think that in-canon, the Borg were struggling at that point because assimilation wasn't working. The Klingons, the Romulans, Species 8472, they all resisted and it worked. I think the Borg weren't the unstoppable villains they were portrayed to be, because of their very nature. RANT OVER
@princejellyfish3945
@princejellyfish3945 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, once they introduced the Borg queen, the coolness and grandness and inscrutable nature of the Borg was deflated. They were so much cooler without her. Plus they made her like a vindictive bitch which just makes no sense to me.
@Restitutor_Orbis_214
@Restitutor_Orbis_214 Жыл бұрын
@@princejellyfish3945 Yes they became defanged much like the Klingons were in TNG. Ronald D. Moore has a special talent for doing this with antagonists.
@sawyerthurber
@sawyerthurber 2 жыл бұрын
As any true Star Trek fan would know, Vulcan has no Moon. So it makes perfect sense why their ship's scanners wouldn't be calibrated to detect a ship attempting to cloak their signature with a Moon's Gravitational Field. Now every point made in this review is moot.
@chancethefapper4528
@chancethefapper4528 Жыл бұрын
These remasters are excellent, thank you so much for putting them together
@michaelsoltesz3779
@michaelsoltesz3779 3 жыл бұрын
These videos just showed up in my feed. The remastering work looks wonderful. Cheers. 😉
@Andreas0424
@Andreas0424 3 жыл бұрын
I love this movie, so I was hesitant to watch this after what you did to the Star Wars prequels. A dozen good laughs and lots of smiling and nodding later, I’m glad I took a chance.
@Numenorean921
@Numenorean921 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, it kind of made me mad. I don't think a lot of his points were very good, in fact they are quite whiney and nitpicky.
@Andreas0424
@Andreas0424 3 жыл бұрын
@@Numenorean921 To each their own I guess. I think he made some good points about the stupidity of the Borg, and about Picard in the movies acting very differently from Picard in the show. My favorite was “No! We can’t fire near the deflector!” - cut to Picard shooting directly at the deflector.
@UnimatrixOne
@UnimatrixOne 3 жыл бұрын
@@Numenorean921 true!
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Nope he makes very good points. Anyone who’s actually watched the tv show can see how tv show Picard is completely different from First Contact action hero Picard.
@matthewburns3471
@matthewburns3471 3 жыл бұрын
I like all the TNG movies and I find the Star Wars prequels all fine (yes I recognise the badness but I don't find it causes me to hate the movies). These reviews are hilarious and I just consider it fun satire lol
@Heyzeus101
@Heyzeus101 Жыл бұрын
"And that guy. Who is that guy?" Adam Scott! I forgot he was in First Contact!
@IanPeon
@IanPeon 3 жыл бұрын
When my brain hurts, I drink. When I drink, I watch Plinkett reviews, which makes my brain hurt. Sew yu kin she meye prahblem...
@thecianinator
@thecianinator 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is the reason I started watching TNG, I loved it when I saw it without knowing the context and the characters' behavior and motivation made sense in the context of what I later saw when I watched the show. Plus it's arguably the most beautiful Star Trek has ever looked.
@BioGoji-zm5ph
@BioGoji-zm5ph 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Saw First Contact before ever watching TNG. It kind of made me want to see how the character of Picard seen in Encounter at Farpoint would eventually become the Picard seen in First Contact.
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 3 жыл бұрын
But the characters’ behavior and motivation didn’t make sense in the context of the show. That’s why it’s a bad movie.
@matthewburns3471
@matthewburns3471 3 жыл бұрын
@@BioGoji-zm5ph I've never quite understood the vitriol of some fans regarding the more action Picard we see in First Contact. He'd already shown he was very much capable of some action and some spurts of anger in the series. He also suffered a dramatic family tragedy in Generations and that absolutely changes you at a fundamental level. Picard I think becomes more loose and care-free from then-on and he takes more risks in terms of pushing boundaries and challenging things in a more pro-active manner. I think Insurrection especially proves that point. Nemesis smashed another hammer into to the psyche with the clone! Of course he'd be a bit miffed but he also still retained a lot of his TNG character traits too IMO. People change and it seemed common sense to expect Picard to change in the movies. It seemed a bit more dramatic but these movies came out years apart and the series was continuing for seven years and only broke off for the actors in the summer for a few weeks, the characters changed more progressively and you don't notice it until you go back and revisit the series and you can quickly how the characters (and actors) change over time.
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewburns3471 You've never quite understood it? Uh, maybe watch this video again? He explained it pretty damn well.
@cookieface80
@cookieface80 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewburns3471 Most Star Trek fans like First Contact.
@gudgob5545
@gudgob5545 3 жыл бұрын
Wait! Did you call him "Zefram Cockring"?
@benhaney5843
@benhaney5843 3 жыл бұрын
Remember this about how great TNG was but how shitty the movies were... And now the Picard show... I think Picard would be correct in again quoting, "it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all..."
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle Жыл бұрын
Now explain herpes. 🤣
@sokoTV2
@sokoTV2 2 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to see this remade in 4K when Paramount releases First Contact and doesn't give it a gross filter over it like the 1080 release.
@vespenegas261
@vespenegas261 3 жыл бұрын
"We Can't Expect Mr. Plinkett to Do All the Work"
@TheAnalogRebellion
@TheAnalogRebellion Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making these! They look great.
@thetruth45678
@thetruth45678 4 ай бұрын
That little room is for the crew's smoke breaks. That's why it has a window.
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 3 жыл бұрын
There should be 100 Defiant ships there.
@a.hollins8691
@a.hollins8691 3 жыл бұрын
The Federation spends all its money on welfare for lazy Tellarites who don't want to work and they don't have enough left over for their military. Make the Federation great again!
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 3 жыл бұрын
@@a.hollins8691 haha ;), Federation is post scarcity civilization so there is no money. The only constrain are the resources and work force. Is there any Orange skin race which could propose candidate for president?
@georgecaceres880
@georgecaceres880 3 жыл бұрын
@@a.hollins8691 telleriites are the Mexicans of the future
@KF-hf4nt
@KF-hf4nt 3 жыл бұрын
So has anyone worked out what that little room is for yet since this review came out?
@lunaticfringe8066
@lunaticfringe8066 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's Picard's secret shack up room, but that's only a guess.
@Porlarta
@Porlarta 3 жыл бұрын
Lol its gotta be an execution chamber
@TheSorrel
@TheSorrel 3 жыл бұрын
Crew members get send there for punishment. They have to keep the window open and then the Bridge pretends to be in a battle for a few hours.
@balleet210
@balleet210 3 жыл бұрын
No idea here but the execution room idea seems okay I suppose. Still ridiculously stupid.
@Where_we_go
@Where_we_go 3 жыл бұрын
It's an EVA port in a service corridor junction. You can enter and exit the ship for maintenance purposes though that hatch. Kinda like a moon pool in the bottom of an ocean vessel. I think the fact that it has a shutter leads people to think its just a power window with no glass, but that wouldn't really make any sense, would it?
@STNeish
@STNeish 3 жыл бұрын
The moon thing... It was my understanding that the Vulcans detected the Phoenix because the warp drive was engaged. At that time, the Enterprise was not using its warp drive, so the Vulcans didn't notice it, and wouldn't, until they got closer. The older ships would have taken some time to get there, and in that time, the Enterprise moved to a position near the Moon (probably over a pole, which we know will obscure even modern sensors). Granted, they didn't SAY any of that, but I understood it from the way the scenes were shot and paced.
@Jooooger
@Jooooger 3 жыл бұрын
The moon doesn't have a magnetic field so positioning over a pole wouldn't help.
@STNeish
@STNeish 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jooooger Certainly, the moon does have a magnetic field, though weaker than Earth, and not dipolar (which I suspect is what you mean, since positioning over a pole wouldn't be possible, magnetically speaking).
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 2 жыл бұрын
@@STNeish You can't hang a ship over a planet's pole, either.
@fourcrippledhorses
@fourcrippledhorses Жыл бұрын
don't make excuses for this fucking movie
@santisinferno
@santisinferno 3 жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU DO THIS ? DID YOU DO THE WHOLE VIDEO FROM SCRATCH ?
@kamikazemelon787
@kamikazemelon787 3 жыл бұрын
he did
@DTM-Books
@DTM-Books 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why TNG couldn’t translate onto the big screen. None of their movies were really all that good.
@peytonmac1131
@peytonmac1131 3 жыл бұрын
My assumption was that TNG would have translated beautifully to the big screen, but Hollywood is terrified of the idea that people might want something that isn't just flashing fight scenes and explosions. They therefore tried to appeal to the lowest common denominator and failed spectacularly, until they came to the conclusion that clearly people don't like Star Trek anymore. Just look at Wrath of Khan. You can make a good Star Trek movie, it's just that it won't appeal to everyone.
@SolarDragon007
@SolarDragon007 3 жыл бұрын
I would've loved a Romulan Political Thriller film in the same vein as The Defector, Unification, Face of the Enemy or even Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges from DS9.
@PhilipBosleyMusic
@PhilipBosleyMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I could get behind that. Some kind of Romulan Parallax View conspiracy weirdness.
@jackasslawyer
@jackasslawyer 3 жыл бұрын
I would've taken a TNG master and commander movie in space. Like the Enterprise is sent into deep ass space to hunt down a rogue Captain who steals a prototype ship with terroristic plans to start a war against the Romulans. Maybe with hints of Dr. Strangelove, but minus the jokes.
@PatricksCrazyPlace
@PatricksCrazyPlace 3 жыл бұрын
This was the best one of the TNG films....let that sink in
@thelongvirtuesignal8551
@thelongvirtuesignal8551 5 ай бұрын
I personally consider covering up the many holes in my stories with quick one liners as my main asset.
@sirpaul7000
@sirpaul7000 10 ай бұрын
I was into star wars as a kid. And I saw this and really liked it
@1squeamishneophyte
@1squeamishneophyte 2 жыл бұрын
I love that room accessed by the hole in the wall, it's like the Enterprise's version of a pillow fort. I'd love to be the guy assigned to it.
@broncos1855
@broncos1855 3 жыл бұрын
No Odo 😂
@robertlowe6367
@robertlowe6367 Жыл бұрын
Everyone yelled at Picard to do the self destruct and abandon ship but then since Picard stays we find out the borg just would have shut it off and then humanity would have been screwed. Like how did they not think that was a possibility.
@elronman
@elronman 2 жыл бұрын
To answer the hole in the bottom of the ship. That could be an auxiliary entrance exit. Like for space walks. The door to the room could have been an airlock chamber, full of decontamination systems. It could also be that theyre on the same level as the borg in that shot. In the next they move up a deck and can walk freely down the halls. Why am I answering it? Because I think it's neet imagining how a random room like that works.
@AlterdeusAgain
@AlterdeusAgain 3 жыл бұрын
I still think the useless room is just a fire escape. Like if the ship crashes onto a planet, people can get out that door. Explains why it's either closed or forcefield window.
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle Жыл бұрын
But the holr in the wall hopefully goes to a pressure door. 😬
@Trowa71
@Trowa71 4 жыл бұрын
26:02 Dig this.
@croatoansounds
@croatoansounds 3 жыл бұрын
Plinkett gonna get canceled
@ardas77
@ardas77 3 жыл бұрын
CANCEL MR PLINKETT
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 8 ай бұрын
🥱
@basteagui
@basteagui 3 жыл бұрын
worf is a klingon, of course he cares about his ship. he cares enough to ram it into the enemy's bow
@TerrenceNowicki
@TerrenceNowicki 3 жыл бұрын
He was just worried he'd get one of Sisko's hyperventilating sermons if he came back to DS9 without it.
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this, so I'll point out that one of the features of the Sovereign class is that I can time its Transporters with its Shields in such a way that they can transport through their shields. Not a decision I would have made as a writer, however as a technological progression it does make sense
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
25:02 this is where they conduct the final test for the transporter Chief position. 28:08 .... that’s Rich’s grandma, isn’t it?
@ariley1133
@ariley1133 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I have to separate TV TNG and Movie TNG. TV TNG is an exploration of humanity while traipsing (trekking?) across the galaxy. Movie TNG is lasers and shit beholden to popcorn movie standards. If I just watch the movies as fun sci-fi romps then everything's fine. Trying to bridge the two is... futile. I couldn't not put that.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 2 жыл бұрын
_Star Trek: Picarbage_ is a romp through a toilet in a junkyard.
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Movie TOS managed to have a good balance which stayed true to the show. Well... the good Movie TOS, I mean.
@alexrompen805
@alexrompen805 3 жыл бұрын
The main issue he skipped over: Voyager established there was a Time Police force, which, and correct me if I'm wrong, they MIGHT have noticed the ENTIRE FEDERATION was erased from the timeline.
@chucksucks8640
@chucksucks8640 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the guys who complained about similar things during production were fired which is why no one said anything.
@blackromulan
@blackromulan 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I keep sending you my email but I never get any of those pizza rolls.
@cookieface80
@cookieface80 Жыл бұрын
It's weird that he would hate this movie but like Star Trek 09, Star Trek Beyond, Jurassic World, The Force Awakens and Solo.
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 8 ай бұрын
I was shocked when they reviewed Force Awakens so positively.
@the81kid
@the81kid Жыл бұрын
"Your reign is over, my queen" 😀
@Drelam
@Drelam 3 жыл бұрын
That weird room with the window could be used as a section to depressaurize a certain section of the ship with certain doors and blast window all opening in case of fires or any unwanted intruders in that section. Probably not, but that's the only use I can see of it being there.
@purplezebrahoover
@purplezebrahoover 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Incredible work!
@alosim1541
@alosim1541 3 жыл бұрын
5:45 It’s Adam Scott
@internationalartprojects8660
@internationalartprojects8660 2 жыл бұрын
Are the Pizza Rolls still available?
@saaaaaakkkkkkkkkkeee
@saaaaaakkkkkkkkkkeee 4 жыл бұрын
has anyone dared to ask for a pizza roll yet?
@prophetic0311
@prophetic0311 3 жыл бұрын
I spit out my beer with Bea Arthur as Odo.
@joringedamke5597
@joringedamke5597 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered: are the Borg queen in this film (Alice Krige) and the one in Voyager (Susanne Thompson) the same? Or like the Formics, do they have several queens?
@a.hollins8691
@a.hollins8691 3 жыл бұрын
My head canon about the Defiant mid-battle beaming is that new technology allows friendly ships to beam through each others' shields. (They know the harmonic frequency). Also, because of this, beaming survivors from damaged ships is done immediately without needing specific orders. Picard's specific orders (to transporter room 3, because 1 and 2 were busy beaming other survivors) were because he knew Worf was on the Defiant. For everything else ... I got nothing, lol.
@garrethboland5646
@garrethboland5646 Жыл бұрын
The little pointless room segment is hilarious
@christiananstes4161
@christiananstes4161 Жыл бұрын
The annoying thing about this movie is that it was originally planned to have the borg battle with starfleet to be 15/20+ mins longer but they cut it due to budgets and it was originally supposed to travel back to the renaissance era and Picard and data were supposed to stay on earth with Da vinci whilst riker fights the borg on the Enterprise. They couldnt really have Sisko on the defiant as this was a tng movie. Some have suggested that Sisko could have been severely injured and spent most of the movie on the floor of the Enterprise bridge paralysed but i doubt siskos actor would have agreed to that.
@horaciosi
@horaciosi Жыл бұрын
How cool would've been if this movie was a TNG/DS9 crossover? Replace Lily with Sisko, have the Defiant travel through time alongside the Enterprise, ditch the Borg Queen and finish the movie with a space battle against one or two Borg cubes.
@kashattack
@kashattack Жыл бұрын
What a waste of 3 quantum torpedoes. These torpedoes were designed to destroy Borg! A single photon torpedo would have been more than enough to take out the Phoenix.
@atcdiddly
@atcdiddly Жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid hating this movie and Nemesis. Didn't even watch TNG, but I knew these were bad. Same with the prequels.
@mygaffer
@mygaffer 3 жыл бұрын
At times beaming through shields has been shown as possible if you know the shield frequency. If course many other times they could not beam people up if their shields were raised.
@conroypawgmail
@conroypawgmail 3 жыл бұрын
The movies tend to be problematic due to things done to cater to the general "non-trekkie" audience. Oh, and pizza roll me!
@roman21581
@roman21581 3 жыл бұрын
You, Sir, are a hero and a scholar.
@liveliestawfulness
@liveliestawfulness 3 жыл бұрын
Ramming speed? What is this, Ben Hur or something?
@robertlowe6367
@robertlowe6367 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the clothes is so funny cuz he also doesn't specify region and it would have been funny if they were all wearing like hijabs and middle eastern robes.
@patrickmuhwheeney6518
@patrickmuhwheeney6518 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but what KIND of pizza roll? The sausage ones repeat on me...
@Dekline25
@Dekline25 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly the only Plinkett Star Trek review that actually made me change my feelings for the film.
@DrJakesVeryBritishReviews
@DrJakesVeryBritishReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so underrated
@GrymgaRPG
@GrymgaRPG 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Cockring.
@RemixedVoice
@RemixedVoice 3 жыл бұрын
Roger that
@jojo-gy9pp
@jojo-gy9pp 3 жыл бұрын
That room is for loading and unloading small amounts of smuggled things. Damn I love these reviews.
@-MrFozzy-
@-MrFozzy- 2 жыл бұрын
Time travel in movies like this is just mind boggling. Was the Enterprise ALWAYS pivotal at the first contact event, or just the ‘2nd’ time?
@TroubleToby3040
@TroubleToby3040 2 жыл бұрын
I think, for ALL time travel stories, you have to assume "multiverse" theory from the start. With multiverses, there is basically no logical problem at all. Physical problems still abound, but no logical ones.
@ELEKTROSKANSEN
@ELEKTROSKANSEN 2 жыл бұрын
Must've been the "just the 2nd time" option. It explains why Cohrane is so different in TOS and why he was shown talking about the Borg in ENT
@Ash_Rein
@Ash_Rein 3 жыл бұрын
I like Jean Luc Rambo
@HurricaneDitka55
@HurricaneDitka55 3 жыл бұрын
Rewatching these years later and after their Star Trek discussions I realize Rich Evans had a much bigger impact on these vids than I realized
@sorryifoldcomment8596
@sorryifoldcomment8596 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I'm rewatching this video, and all of the points seem pretty obvious and not hard to come to. (I think - I think they agreed on things already, but that's my assumption.) But I genuinely cherish Rich Evans. And every person deserves credit for their work!
@GigaBoost
@GigaBoost Жыл бұрын
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 yeah no clue what he meant
@rekall76
@rekall76 8 ай бұрын
pizza rolls?! yes, please and thank you!!
@tigerfish66
@tigerfish66 3 жыл бұрын
i laughed out loud at least six times at this vid, well done, great comedy content, BTW i love the film....
@TerrenceNowicki
@TerrenceNowicki 3 жыл бұрын
The room Plinkett complains about in Part 14, and the blast door with the forcefield is apparently for docking those little shuttlepods like the one seen during the spacedock sequence in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Considering how much Mike likes TMP, it's actually pretty surprising he neither realized this immediately, nor was able to eventually figure it out while writing his review. There's still no good reason for Picard and Lily to exit the room via the jeffries tube instead of a normal door, though.
@ryanprentice
@ryanprentice Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ulture
@ulture Жыл бұрын
the forcefield window is fine, or rather, it makes no less sense than having the structural integrity of the whole hull of the ship maintained by forcefields that require constant power. It just means that even if that window were transparent aluminium, a total failure would still most likely leave you treading void. Also, there was a bit earlier where he accused the Borg drones of acting like 'mindless Frankenstein zombies', and since I'm being pedantic..... Frankenstein spends the entire book monologuing on philosophy and the meaning of existence, he's way too far from 'mindless'. (And inb4 anyone tries to out-pedantic the pedant, yes, you can use "Frankenstein" to refer to the creature, because in one of his monologues he considers naming himself after his 'father', or perhaps after Adam as he is the first of a new kind of being, or some other more creative name, and concludes that any of these are as good as the others.)
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