MSI Raider GE78 unboxing: i9-13980HX / nVidia RTX 4090

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MSI Raider GE78HX:
-13th Gen Intel Raptor Lake Core i9-13980HX
- nVidia RTX 4090 16GB GDDR6
- 17" QHD+ 16:10 2560x1600 @240Hz, 3ms DCI-P3 100%
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@c-v-n3322 11 ай бұрын

This was a perfect video I like seeing whats all inside without a lot of talking just simple info that other youtubers fail most of the time for me.

@Sanadtm Жыл бұрын

THAT MAGICAL SOOTHING VOICE AGAIN, Bee listing to it since 2013. Love your Voice my brother.

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

Thank you. :)

@187nellybelly 20 күн бұрын

I like the Sam Fisher Splinter Cell Thermal view of the laptop after gaming the best!

@martinalmaestro7265 2 ай бұрын

Thank you , straight to the point perfect review

@khooricky-be5bz 11 ай бұрын

this review better than Jarrod's Tech Review and many other channel review !

@mach4431 Жыл бұрын

great video！but can you also test the display brightness?

@Ric0ceronte Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!😎👍🔥🍿🐧👏

@maltorro2005 Жыл бұрын

Fu....g amazing product. Have to buy it.

@danielbarakat Жыл бұрын

I ordered the scar 16 from gentech. But there's a part of me that wants this instead...ahh decisions Favorite retailer for gaming laptops!!!!

@user-yc4yo2hn2h Жыл бұрын

СУПЕР!!!! Вот нет никакого ЖМ в СО. Обычная термопаста. Это круто. Классный обзор. Аппарат мощный.

@DynamicPhil84 Жыл бұрын

WOW. The RTX 4090 mobile smoked my desktop 3080 Ti in the Blender benchmarks... daaaaang.

@xTurtleOW Жыл бұрын

the laptop costs way over 4k so it should

@vudejaos Жыл бұрын

Very good video

@user-xp7xl9rg4m Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@jitkundough Жыл бұрын

For those who have the 12UHS-063, it's only true superiority is in that extra heat pipe and a few more CUDA CORES. However, they kept it in the same price range. The real advance in that there is a GPU made on the 4nm scale, which means higher performance at a lower TDP; this is very promising, and when combined with the extra cooling capacity, it means more computing power without changing the shell, frame or weight. Now that's progress. Now, if MSI offered a buyback/upgrade program, this would be a no-brain er. When someone asks, "Then what do they do with the 3080 Ti laptops that come in?" Easy; they make sure they're functional, and put them into a fresh plastic shell, which is then sold again as REFURBISHED for 75% of original detail. NO E-WASTE, and a great deal for someone willing to be two generations behind the curve. Someone who can get into one of these is willing to invest in the new one as they come out to be as bleeding edge as they can be-especially when added productivity means getting your projects encoded or transocded faster. Render times mean greater turnaround, which means more profitable. Gamers will have access to the DLSS 3, which I hope the gatekeepers at NVIDIA release later on. Remember that the coding for drivers can make a HUGE difference in how well a GPU performs. DirectX13 will prove that. Those who play Flight Simulator 2020, the fans feel and sound exactly like an a320NEO! On a purely aesthetic note; the 12UHS-063 is ALL BLACK, so when you have the lighting completely off, it's very discreet. That red strip on the new one is a deal-breaker for me. WHEN, oh WHEN will MSI get the message that those who can spend $6,500.00 for this machine, and add quad 990 PRO NVME Drives, DO NOT WANT RGB, RED STRIPES and all the other crap that screams "STEAL ME, and bash me over the head for my laptop, please!" You're putting people's lives at risk, unless they never venture outside with their laptop.

@MGRogue 11 ай бұрын

True, that red strip design at the back is not a good look at all

@mikaelbiilmann6826 9 ай бұрын

Hate any rgb and gamer aesthetics! 😡

@jitkundough 9 ай бұрын

@@mikaelbiilmann6826 As mentioned, all lighting turned off makes it look like an all black unit.

@mikaelbiilmann6826 9 ай бұрын

@@jitkundough I saw that. I just think it is more stuff that can break, and I never am going to use it. 🙂

@euan3858 Жыл бұрын

Just what I was looking for! I’m just a bit concerned with how loud that fan is. I totally get laptop fans are quite loud but would you say in your experience it’s pretty good or bad?

@eloyhbermudez Жыл бұрын

what do you prefer ? gpu frying or keep your laptop cool regardless of the fan speed? gaming laptop being loud is something you have to accept

@georgeonderko5273 Жыл бұрын

I’m in the same boat. I’ve heard nothing of vapor chambers or extra fans. Regular heat sinks and 2 fans seems like they will need to spoil up a lot to cool it. Asus is using conductonaut and 3 fans with a vapor chamber. Even the gigabyte 17x is using 3 fans and a vapor chamber.

@jaybruce593 Жыл бұрын

@@georgeonderko5273 I've got a SCAR18 that has the three fans, and seems to be a lot quieter than the raider came across as in this video. That said, the SCAR18 does feel a bit "prototype" and rough around the edges whereas the Raider is seemingly a more polished consumer product offering.

@Filkinvitaliy Жыл бұрын

мощный ноутбук 2 вентелятора это наверное маловато будет но 3 радиатор это конечно круто .

@ytac3900 Жыл бұрын

it's perfect ..but expect the appearance

@haki3353 9 ай бұрын

No mini led, no g-sync 🤦🏻‍♂️

@MGRogue 4 ай бұрын

I’m starting to love NVIDIA G-Sync. I have it on my ASUS Strix SCAR 18 gaming laptop. No matter what the framerate is, if it goes up and down, everything stays smooth and no hitches. If you don’t have a stable 60 FPS with any game on this particular laptop, the gaming experience is awful

@polanialmoni6274 5 ай бұрын

How is the display compared to the mini led of the Asus strix scar with the same gpu and cpu? I need color acurate screen, is no Gsync noticeable?

@youxtubexisxgay Жыл бұрын

Your hardware monitor app has a bug. The E cores can only go to 4ghz but everything says 5888 max. Also for those who don't know only two p cores can go to 5.6 if more than that are on they all go to 5.2.

@trilingualkid Жыл бұрын

this thing is more powerful than my i7-5960x with a 2080ti 😭😭😭😭😭😭

@IvanFoxDrift Жыл бұрын

I hope that rtx don't burn over time

@Razors378 Жыл бұрын

Great laptop when it bricks from a bios update

@raminsn1234 8 ай бұрын

What do you recommend between msi vector gp78hx and asus rog strix g18?both are 13980hx and rtx 4070

@user-qd8hn4vo4r Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Very good review!!Do you think Kingston Fury on 5600 will be better when replacing RAM with 64 gigabytes?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

There are intel chipset limitations, 5600RAM will still only run at 4800MHz.

@user-qd8hn4vo4r Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC,Thank you

@derekcranson2307 Жыл бұрын

I got this model of laptop and kingston fury 64gb of memory works at 5600mhz ,but you have u to do some changes in bios.

@surger132 Жыл бұрын

Was curious is anyone knows the length of cable from the power brick to the computer?

@Burago2k 4 ай бұрын

Can't imagine a laptop with a 4090 to last long, imaganing the amount of heat a 4090 and i9 under heavy load in that small space despite laptops being better now...

@synstark6858 Жыл бұрын

Can we get the same video for Scar 18 RTX 4090 unboxing/review please!

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

yes coming soon.

@synstark6858 Жыл бұрын

@GenTechPC Awesome, thank you! Can you check for coil whine? A few reviewers said they have CW on their units, so I'm curious if all of them are like that or just bad luck

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

@@synstark6858 Ok will do.

@Kazy_RU 5 ай бұрын

I have bough a 78 model too, I jsut would like to know why did MSI cheap out and not put RGB under the space bar?

@tengounaMSIRaiderconunartx4090 5 ай бұрын

Is cutre

@ARain1973 Жыл бұрын

The cinebench score is not right for that CPU, you’re dropping 1/3 of performance somewhere ….

@shanelynn4277 Жыл бұрын

Do the GE78 come with the "phase-changing" thermal pad on the CPU and GPU? Or it's just a regular thermal paste?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

MSI don't use phase-changing metal pads on 13th gen anymore, just generic paste.

@geoffreythompson2750 Жыл бұрын

I was curious if in the "Integrated Graphics Only" mode do any of the video output ports still function, and if so are they driven by the Intel GPU?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

yes video output ports will still working and Intel GPU will be completely disabled.

@solitarymassacre Жыл бұрын

You mean iGPU? Like intel GPU only? I believe the HDMI port stops working, but one or maybe more of the USB-C DisplayPorts will continue to work. You may have to read the fine details in the specs.

@oyuntutkunuoyuncular Жыл бұрын

bro i don't know a foreign language but smart touch was going to be added why not

@anthonym_8863 Жыл бұрын

Isn't that 19k Cinebench score a little low? I've seen others with the same CPU benchmark around 30k.

@mikemischler2886 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, he should be getting over 30k scores on R23 and he should be getting higher scores on other benchmarks, its definitely not on performance mode.

@ossieos9962 Жыл бұрын

I think tests done on mshybrid mode

@vitalymichailov387 Жыл бұрын

@@ossieos9962 Its not affects on the cpu score...it have to getting ~30000... Mine raider, with 12700H do 18800... 14cores 20 threads...Something wrong with them, thermal throttling...

@mikemischler2886 Жыл бұрын

@@ossieos9962 i think you are right as well and it could be in balanced mode vs performance mode as well.

@chamstrauss Жыл бұрын

hello and thank you for your review. will there be a i7 13700hx, rtx 4080, 1200p screen version of this laptop?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

Only i9-13980HX with RTX 4080.

@chamstrauss Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC can you please order some 13700hx 4080 1200p? i realy want this setup. 13700hx not getting 4080? why? im sure there will be a demand. its still a high end 8 p cores cpu

@georgeonderko5273 Жыл бұрын

Can we see the gigabyte 17x. To me the big competitor to this is the gigabyte 17x. It had the same specs, better cooling, windows hello, and is cheaper. The scar 18 lacks windows hello and rear connections. Ultimately for me it’s who is quieter at max load.

@charlescarabott7692 9 ай бұрын

Never heard anyone complain about the GE78 cooling. And the Raider has brighter screen, and beats the 17X am( and even the scar 18) in all bench marks. And how the prices are now there not that great difference in price. And if you want a quiet laptop don't buy a gaming laptop. All gaming laptops will have fan noise at high loads

@jimmorrison4ever529 8 ай бұрын

Just another comment by someone who wants everyone to regret their 4-thousand-dollar gaming laptop decision over the loudness of a fan while acting like they know what they're talking about because they play video games. Nothing to see here.

@freaksdrivingschool3519 Жыл бұрын

The r23 benchmark seems very low, my MSI laptop has a i7 12800hx and it gets over 22k. 8p core-8e cores.

@SubKiller Жыл бұрын

What graphics card?

@ramioma8933 Жыл бұрын

Nice laptop how much it cost?t

@Tijgert Жыл бұрын

Are those scores really that bad? The TongFang water cooled laptop scores 20.5K on air in Timespy and 21.5K on water. That is 16% better. MSI, what gives? Edit: is it in MSHybrid mode or Discrete GPU mode?

@DEPEKTOP Жыл бұрын

there's some kind of error in the tests or something is wrong with this laptop. for other bloggers, this laptop gives out much more in time spy

@eloyhbermudez Жыл бұрын

is faster than my desktop 3070ti which scores 22879 in firestrike edit: that result was with cpu turbo boost / HT off , with turbo / ht on i get 27846 with 37101 graphic score which still is slower than laptop 4090 , it sits between desktop 3070ti and 3080 , my cpu is a 10900k and it scores 30280 on the physics test which is slightly better

@niebuhr6197 Жыл бұрын

You shouldnt use such an old benchmark to properly measure this thing. 4090m has been spotted scoring 22500 in time spy graphics, which is 3090ti performance or more than 14100 in port royal, which is faster than stock 3090

@eloyhbermudez Жыл бұрын

@@niebuhr6197 i used this benchmark because if you pay attention to the video he uses the same benchmark ,

@psionx1 Жыл бұрын

my 12700k+3060 system isn't far behind yours with a firestrike score of 21497. the GPU has a 100Mhz OC on the memory and core and the CPU is limited to 120watts because the cooler is low profile. though despite losing in overall graphics score I get a nice 35173 in physics.

@eloyhbermudez Жыл бұрын

@@psionx1 12700k is a beast , i would love to swap to 12th or 13th gen but for that money i can rather upgrade gpu

@psionx1 Жыл бұрын

@@eloyhbermudez after selling your current parts the jump to alder lake is about $60 so long as you avoid DDR5. where as a 4070 will cost you $250+. which will no doubt feel like a rip off when nvidia releases super cards.

@DEPEKTOP Жыл бұрын

MSI Raider GE78 HX 13VI please tell me, is the keyboard in this laptop mechanical or the same as in scar18?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

The keyboard is not mechanical, nor is Scar 18.

@DEPEKTOP Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC MSI Raider GE78 (4090) or Asus Scar 18 (4090) . please tell me which laptop is better for a professional game in Apex legends?. Are there G-sync in these laptops? Which laptop did you like best ?

@DEPEKTOP Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC Can you set any game to 240Hz ( lock maximum 230FPS ) and move the mouse sharply to the right or left. record video from your phone\camera in maximum slow motion. PLease)) it will take 2-4 minutes you time. In general, repeat something like what is recorded in this video. 1) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q82Pdr2Ly9nZoZc.html 2) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLOSnJyeqtmwfn0.html This is necessary in order to understand whether there are frame breaks in this laptop at such speeds. and how well the laptop display performs at 240 frames per second. How well does frame sync work here without G-sync

@williamsburgIS Жыл бұрын

@@DEPEKTOP Both are but i recommend going for ASUS

@noutbuker 11 ай бұрын

@@DEPEKTOP In msi there is no r sync, only for an external monitor, asus has r sync, but asus suffer coil whine, you choose)

@PlayGameToday Жыл бұрын

What is the fashion, MSI, to make only one combo output for headphones and microphone instead of making two separate ones? Just because of that I won't upgrade my MSI GS9 (btw my laptop has 3 SSD slots!!)

@ViciousXUSMC Жыл бұрын

That is really common these days, because the most common thing to use is a headset that uses a combo jack. So for most people it would actually be worse to have the older style split (and it takes up more space) But! You are absolutely fine you can just get a 3.5mm TRRS to TRS break out cable and split it out yourself. Also most streamers these days seem to be using USB microphones, or USB audio interfaces.

@PlayGameToday Жыл бұрын

@@ViciousXUSMC I hate adapters and splitters, as well as combo jacks - they are a source of interference and signal degradation. I'm a streamer, but I use a Marshall XLR condenser microphone - what's wrong with me? I hate USB microphones.

@ViciousXUSMC Жыл бұрын

@@PlayGameToday I use a Shure SM7B with a Cloud Lifter to a Behringer X18, but at the end of the day my mixer is connected via USB. From actual electrical testing, a good splitter is not going to hurt your signal, nor is it large enough to pick up any EMI or other interference. (Same argument already won in RCA vs XLR for very high end audio pre-out setups) If your at this "level" of needs as far as performance, I can't see using any built in 3.5mm audio connection. Your arguing for quality and how adapters hurt the quality, and usb microphones are not good enough quality, then. Want to use built in sound cards on a laptop and expect quality? Those are in some of the highest interference and noise scenarios possible due to the close quarters with all the hardware. You should be looking at an audio interface if quality is what you demand. How exactly are you using your Marshall to a 3.5mm connection? IMO professional opinion you want a good digital interface with a clean pre-amp for anything serious. There is no way I would be using 3.5mm for my XLR microphone and having it go thru more analog conversion than necessary.

@MGRogue 11 ай бұрын

70 DBA while under load, the fans are so loud, the same as the Raider GE76 that I owned for one year. Temps and cooling are awful to say the least. I currently sold it to swap to an ASUS STRIX SCAR 18 (G834) with the Intel Core i9 13980HX and NVIDIA RTX 4090 (16GB) which I'm receiving in the mail today by DPD. It has a 18" 2K screen, rather than a 17.3" 4K one, but it means that I get better performance and 4K on a gaming laptop is kind of pointless. I'll hook the laptop up to a 4KTV via HDMI for 4K gaming.

@JLawL 11 ай бұрын

They make a 2k version of the MSI, this was my first MSI after 5 different Asus swapouts in 2 years. The power adapter wears out the connection on the motherboard in 6-8 months. It will break, and Asus won't fix it. Hope you got a warranty.

@MGRogue 4 ай бұрын

@@JLawLI’ve owned the ASUS Strix SCAR 18 for around six months now, and I have zero issues with it. Performance is insane, doesn’t struggle with running any game at 60+ FPS, even in 4K on the big-screen. I just turn on any game and max out the graphics settings. I am very impressed with this laptop when it comes to gaming, and can’t wait to see what Asus will bring in the future with their next model

@mkbane1262 Жыл бұрын

Bro you have to these benchmark properly. Your timespy seems to be way off probably because u are not using the right configuration

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

It's out of the box score, early nVidia drivers cause it.

@ride66 10 ай бұрын

Are there any coil whines

@GenTechPC 10 ай бұрын

No coil whines.

@georgeonderko5273 11 ай бұрын

@gentech how do you pry off the back cover?

@GenTechPC 11 ай бұрын

You need to pry off the hinge cover below the screen first.

@georgeonderko5273 11 ай бұрын

Thanks. Lol. Every one of those side clips broke on removal. They don’t appear to be needed so that’s good.

@georgeonderko5273 11 ай бұрын

Def not the most user friendly design.

@denzelbuka1019 Жыл бұрын

You left out gaming benchmarks. But why!?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

3DMark will do.

@denzelbuka1019 Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPCThings like game benchmarks indicate Real World performance but it's your channel so whatever!

@zenckers1981 Жыл бұрын

18.741 p in Time Spy Benchmark???? I HOPE THAT WAS WRONG...I want upgrade my Ge76 With I7 10850H and RTX 3080, and with OC can reach 12.890P, and othe Models like Asus Scar 18 2023 with the same components reach 21.000P in this Bench...Please, 18.741P not is too low???

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

It was BIOS issue at initial launch. When plugged in, it still work as it's on battery mode not plugged-in at full power, new BIOS 105 and above fixed it.

@zenckers1981 Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC Thanks a lot! Sorry for my English, I'm from Spain. OK, and then, at the same price and same specs, I think that this model it's better tan Asus G18? From Gentech, wich model it's better? I always had MSI, from GT72 with a spectacular GTX 1070, and love the MSI BIOS. Only one thing, it's noticeable that MSI Ge78 don't have GSync? Tanks 👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@Nogardtist Жыл бұрын

kinda unusual for a channel with unprofessional recording having high end device in their hands like that

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

We are not KZfaqr, we are MSI authorized reseller. We are just showing unboxing and how laptop looks inside and out. If you are looking for fancy RGB studio, go some place else.

@Nogardtist Жыл бұрын

@@GenTechPC theres more production value and recording quality then fancy rgb If you want the channel to grow rapidly Changes must be made And i notice them as absolute low level beginner

@georgeonderko5273 Жыл бұрын

What model of ssd are they using. Would be fun to add a second for raid 0

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

They don't use same brand everytime.

@yujigunev890 Жыл бұрын

only 16gb ram..is it enough?

@GenTechPC Жыл бұрын

It has 32GB of RAM.

@maltorro2005 Жыл бұрын

Nice but far away too expensive.

@PlayGameToday Жыл бұрын

I hope MSI didn't build the trash called "Nahimic" into the audio driver?

@jackfox5738 Жыл бұрын

Nahimic really made the aound great with my bose QC II buds

@PlayGameToday Жыл бұрын

@@jackfox5738 no

@coby96og 10 ай бұрын

@@micdawg12 how do you do that. MSI keeps going low and then high with the Audio

@SaddestAsmrEnjoyer 11 ай бұрын

Someone knows were to buy one ?

@GenTechPC 11 ай бұрын

We are MSI's authorized reseller in the US.

@bk_panther_ Жыл бұрын

I thought the Titan was the higher model. Why does that one have a 4080 and this one the 4090?

@samuelrblx2605 Жыл бұрын

There both High end. The titan Is only if you want an extreme desktop replacement

@samuelrblx2605 Жыл бұрын

@@elcactuar3354 no it’s there

@samuelrblx2605 Жыл бұрын

@@elcactuar3354 you fool You DIDNT even pass your English exam 💀💀 You can use there or They’re

@samuelrblx2605 Жыл бұрын

@@elcactuar3354 you failed English why are you even talking haha bozo

@frankrandol85 Жыл бұрын

No lol

@alizafeer101 5 ай бұрын

The benchmark scores are way too low.

@panathaninf Жыл бұрын

Why all powerful gaming laptops have to look like a psychedelic mess?

@Homelessgrunt Жыл бұрын

For dudes like me who enjoy psychedelics (;

@mikaelbiilmann6826 9 ай бұрын

19-13980HX?

@rept1le Жыл бұрын

I don't like the design. It's too chunky and not really portable.

@icetmzz9074 Жыл бұрын

damn thats bulky

@0RIPPER0 Жыл бұрын

bruhhh !!! in Ryzen9 5900 hx laptop with 8 cores u can get around 14k score in cinebench R3 ... intel with 24 cores - 19.5k [-_-]

@starsdestiny1356 8 ай бұрын

Gift this laptop to me

@gerardvopstal7547 Жыл бұрын

You out of focus meny times

@VolgaYILMAZ 9 ай бұрын

Design, hinges and grills looks like shit. Previous version were better in design division.